On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 08:53:12 +1000
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 23:16:19 +0100, S Viemeister
> <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>
> >On 15/04/2024 20:25, Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> Can't we get a left wing troll for a change? All these extreme
> >> right wingers talk the same. Maybe it's all the same person.
> >>
> >Or a bunch of them sharing the same 'brain'?
>
> Yes, maybe they're all linked to the same hive.

Hint --- Buzzz@apiary.hive...

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:

> On 4/15/2024 1:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> Bullshit. It is abuse of handicapped spaces that I object to. Laws may vary
>> from place to place but around here, the permit is for a particular person
>> and if that person is not in the vehicle the driver is not supposed to
>> cannot park in a handicapped space.
>>
>> I cited the example of the local Y where there are 12 handicapped spaces
>> but there is rarely more than one or two people in there who look like they
>> need one. If the others can go into the gym and work out for an hour or so
>> they should not need the reserved parking spaces nearest the door. I also
>> mentioned san organization  that has a wheelchair lift equipped vehicle so
>> it gets a permit and they always park in handicapped spaces and no
>> wheelchair user on board.
>>
>> I do understand that there are people with handicaps and I think it is
>> especially bad to have the owners of cars with handicapped parking permits
>> abusing them. They, of all people, should understand how wrong that is.
>>
>>
>
> There is abuse. A guy at work bragged that he took his grandmother's car to
> the mall when it was crowded so he could park close.
>
> The other thing you bring up, how can you tell a person is handicapped? I
> think it is simple. When you get your permit, you also get an "H" tattoo on
> your forehead
>

That's pretty crude. Wouldn't it be more humane to chip them? Then you
could scan them with your phone and pick up the chip to verify they are
handicapped.

On 2024-04-16, D wrote:

> That's pretty crude. Wouldn't it be more
> humane to chip them? Then you could scan
> them with your phone .

We don't need chips. You can just scan them
with the camera of your existing phone. The
Chinese have all our facial features in their
database and the AI tech to add 'haloes'
above right-minded individuals when viewed
through altered-reality headsets.

Right now, people are using social media
to identify wrong-minded thought patterns
so that we can put dialogue balloons above
them with what they are really thinking,
for example when they call someone else a
'troll', or post a kook-list, &c.

Most of us here think that nobody reads
stuff posted here, but believe me, the
Chinese operatives do such continually.

The only thing holding back beta release
of their social engineering software is
that it only works on white & black people,
because even Chinese AI cannot tell one
Chinese apart from another.

On 2024-04-16, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

> The Chinese have all our facial features in their database

Unless they're better than Google or have hacked the DMV, they might not
have one of me.

I googled myself and couldn't find a single image.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-04-16 11:27 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2024-04-16, D wrote:
>
>> That's pretty crude. Wouldn't it be more
>> humane to chip them? Then you could scan
>> them with your phone .
>
> We don't need chips. You can just scan them
> with the camera of your existing phone. The
> Chinese have all our facial features in their
> database and the AI tech to add 'haloes'
> above right-minded individuals when viewed
> through altered-reality headsets.

FWIW I just read an interesting novel about that. Extinction, by Mark
Alpert. It is a story about Chinese AI and creating a bunch of
"modules" people who have been implanted with chips and stuff. Their
plan is to get rid of humans and take over the world.

>
>
> Most of us here think that nobody reads
> stuff posted here, but believe me, the
> Chinese operatives do such continually.
>

Maybe they were the ones responsible for the foodbanter users who use to
appear ever month or two with a post thanking us for admitting them to
our forum, each one using almost the same message.

> The only thing holding back beta release
> of their social engineering software is
> that it only works on white & black people,
> because even Chinese AI cannot tell one
> Chinese apart from another.
>

lol

On 2024-04-16 11:45 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-04-16, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
>
>> The Chinese have all our facial features in their database
>
> Unless they're better than Google or have hacked the DMV, they might not
> have one of me.
>
> I googled myself and couldn't find a single image.
>
>

I did a short stint as a driver examiner and there was a particular red
Mustang that was used by Chinese applicants several times each week. It
was a suspiciously high number of applicants being tested by any single
driving instructor. I have to confess that I was never sure that at
least some of them weren't the same person doing multiple tests.

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 10:59:50 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:
>
> > On 4/15/2024 1:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Bullshit. It is abuse of handicapped spaces that I object to. Laws
> >> may vary from place to place but around here, the permit is for a
> >> particular person and if that person is not in the vehicle the
> >> driver is not supposed to cannot park in a handicapped space.
> >>
> >> I cited the example of the local Y where there are 12 handicapped
> >> spaces but there is rarely more than one or two people in there
> >> who look like they need one. If the others can go into the gym and
> >> work out for an hour or so they should not need the reserved
> >> parking spaces nearest the door. I also mentioned san organization
> >> that has a wheelchair lift equipped vehicle so it gets a permit
> >> and they always park in handicapped spaces and no wheelchair user
> >> on board.
> >>
> >> I do understand that there are people with handicaps and I think
> >> it is especially bad to have the owners of cars with handicapped
> >> parking permits abusing them. They, of all people, should
> >> understand how wrong that is.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > There is abuse. A guy at work bragged that he took his
> > grandmother's car to the mall when it was crowded so he could park
> > close.
> >
> > The other thing you bring up, how can you tell a person is
> > handicapped? I think it is simple. When you get your permit, you
> > also get an "H" tattoo on your forehead
> >
>
> That's pretty crude. Wouldn't it be more humane to chip them? Then
> you could scan them with your phone and pick up the chip to verify
> they are handicapped.

Officer Pecksniff would have years of smart phone stalking ahead of
him...

On 16 Apr 2024 15:27:45 GMT
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

> On 2024-04-16, D wrote:
>
> > That's pretty crude. Wouldn't it be more
> > humane to chip them? Then you could scan
> > them with your phone .
>
> We don't need chips. You can just scan them
> with the camera of your existing phone. The
> Chinese have all our facial features in their
> database and the AI tech to add 'haloes'
> above right-minded individuals when viewed
> through altered-reality headsets.
>
> Right now, people are using social media
> to identify wrong-minded thought patterns
> so that we can put dialogue balloons above
> them with what they are really thinking,
> for example when they call someone else a
> 'troll', or post a kook-list, &c.
>
> Most of us here think that nobody reads
> stuff posted here, but believe me, the
> Chinese operatives do such continually.
>
> The only thing holding back beta release
> of their social engineering software is
> that it only works on white & black people,
> because even Chinese AI cannot tell one
> Chinese apart from another.
>

Have a look at what our matrix is:

https://youtu.be/Ys1D7hRDKBQ

On 16 Apr 2024 15:45:51 GMT
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-16, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
>
> > The Chinese have all our facial features in their database
>
> Unless they're better than Google or have hacked the DMV, they might
> not have one of me.
>
> I googled myself and couldn't find a single image.
>
>
If you've ever saved one on a device, you're in their database.

https://youtu.be/Ys1D7hRDKBQ

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 12:07:23 -0400
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Maybe they were the ones responsible for the foodbanter users who use
> to appear ever month or two with a post thanking us for admitting
> them to our forum, each one using almost the same message.
https://youtu.be/Ys1D7hRDKBQ

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 12:12:15 -0400
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On 2024-04-16 11:45 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On 2024-04-16, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
> >
> >> The Chinese have all our facial features in their database
> >
> > Unless they're better than Google or have hacked the DMV, they
> > might not have one of me.
> >
> > I googled myself and couldn't find a single image.
> >
> >
>
> I did a short stint as a driver examiner and there was a particular
> red Mustang that was used by Chinese applicants several times each
> week. It was a suspiciously high number of applicants being tested by
> any single driving instructor. I have to confess that I was never
> sure that at least some of them weren't the same person doing
> multiple tests.
>

Cuz...to you...they all look alike?

Wow, just fucking wow.

On 2024-04-16, small furry animal wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 12:12:15 -0400

> Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>> red Mustang that was used by Chinese applicants
>> several times each week. It was a suspiciously
>> high number of applicants being tested by
>> any single driving instructor.

> Cuz...to you...they all look alike?
> Wow, just fucking wow.

Indeed. Thus the need for fingerprints on driving permits.

My brother is a police officer, and arranging for a
cousin-in-law &c to perform a driving test is modus
operandi for a number of ethnic groups, especially
the severely inbred ones.

On 16 Apr 2024 17:25:33 GMT
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

> On 2024-04-16, small furry animal wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 12:12:15 -0400
>
> > Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >> red Mustang that was used by Chinese applicants
> >> several times each week. It was a suspiciously
> >> high number of applicants being tested by
> >> any single driving instructor.
>
> > Cuz...to you...they all look alike?
> > Wow, just fucking wow.
>
> Indeed. Thus the need for fingerprints on driving permits.

Lol, a very recent post-911 knee jerk and by no means a universal
stipulation of course:

https://bja.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh186/files/media/document/licensetodriveproofofidentity.pdf

All states require other documents with the
driver’s license application to prove the identity
of a potential license holder. These documents
vary from state to state and can include birth certificates, utility bills, passports, Social Security
cards or licenses from other states. The challenge
is to verify whether these documents are authentic

Forty-four states require a Social
Security number at the time of application, but most states do not
include the number on the actual driver’s license. Additionally, 20
states do not have requirements for applicants to prove lawful presence
in the United States. Several states have passed legislation or are considering measures that link Social Security numbers or visa expiration
dates with driver’s licenses either at the time of application or by
placing the information on the license itself

https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/students/study/driving-in-the-united-states

When you apply for a driver's license at your local DMV, make sure to bring original copies of the following documents:

All signed versions of your Form I-20, “Certificate of Eligibility for Nonimmigrant Student Status.”
A valid passport and your most recent student visa (Please note that you do not need a visa if you are from a visa-exempt country, such as Canada or Bermuda).
Proof of residence. This varies from state to state and you should check your local DMV’s website to ensure you understand what is needed to fulfill this requirement.
If your state requires it, an SSN card or a Form SSA-L676, “Refusal to Process SSN Application.”
If you are on optional practical training, bring your Form I-766, “Employment Authorization Document.” The DMV will use the A number on this card to verify your status.
If you are an F-2, M-2 or J-2 dependent, go to the DMV with your primary F-1, M-1 or J-1 and make sure you both have all your required documents.

After a successful application process, a DMV official will explain the next steps for attaining your driver’s license. It is normal for some nonimmigrants to only get temporary licenses. In addition, you may receive the license immediately or you may have to wait several weeks, depending on the state.

Additional Requirements
A driver’s license applicant may also need to pass both a driving and written test. Depending on your state, if you have a license from your home country or another state, the DMV may not require you to take the tests.. However, not all states accept driver's licenses from other countries.

If you have trouble applying for a driver's license, speak with your DSO and contact the SEVP Response Center with case-specific questions.

> My brother is a police officer, and arranging for a
> cousin-in-law &c to perform a driving test is modus
> operandi for a number of ethnic groups, especially
> the severely inbred ones.
No question they cheat, I mean look how they got here!

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2024-04-15 1:12 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> >
> > > Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> this topic has gone about as i expected. Dave doesn't
> > > get it and will not engage brain at all.
> > Dave doesn't get any form of disability. He doesn't get disability
> > parking either.
>
>
> Bullshit. It is abuse of handicapped spaces that I object to. Laws
> may vary from place to place but around here, the permit is for a
> particular person and if that person is not in the vehicle the driver
> is not supposed to cannot park in a handicapped space.

Your fallacies show clearly. You make assumptions that all
disabilities are obvious to your eyes. You've been told this before
and still refuse to believe it.

> I cited the example of the local Y where there are 12 handicapped
> spaces but there is rarely more than one or two people in there who
> look like they need one.

You've also been told that is wrong several times. People with
disabilies go there for physical therapy. As my husband was recovering
from surgery, he was assigned to go to the Bow Creek rec facility for
meetings with his physical therapist. The next option was the Y out
near Mount Trashmore.

> If the others can go into the gym and work
> out for an hour or so they should not need the reserved parking
> spaces nearest the door. I also mentioned san organization that has
> a wheelchair lift equipped vehicle so it gets a permit and they
> always park in handicapped spaces and no wheelchair user on board.

They may have been inside. They may have others who are disabled but
don't use a lift. Here, one of the blessings was a cab company that
had a 6 person van with a lift. They ran regular runs with shopping
stops. The lift was if someone needed it.

> I do understand that there are people with handicaps and I think it
> is especially bad to have the owners of cars with handicapped parking
> permits abusing them. They, of all people, should understand how
> wrong that is.

Again, if you don't see someone with something obvious to YOUR eyes,
you assume wrongfully because you want to park closer.

On 2024-04-16 1:25 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2024-04-16, small furry animal wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 12:12:15 -0400
>
>> Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>> red Mustang that was used by Chinese applicants
>>> several times each week. It was a suspiciously
>>> high number of applicants being tested by
>>> any single driving instructor.
>
>> Cuz...to you...they all look alike?
>> Wow, just fucking wow.
>
> Indeed. Thus the need for fingerprints on driving permits.
>
> My brother is a police officer, and arranging for a
> cousin-in-law &c to perform a driving test is modus
> operandi for a number of ethnic groups, especially
> the severely inbred ones.

Considering that most of them were young men in the same age range and
likely here as foreign students, it is doubtful they were in-laws. I
only did that job for a couple months, but a lot of them over a short
period of time. FWIW, I don't remember any of then being failed.

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 18:01:17 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

> > I do understand that there are people with handicaps and I think it
> > is especially bad to have the owners of cars with handicapped
> > parking permits abusing them. They, of all people, should
> > understand how wrong that is.
>
> Again, if you don't see someone with something obvious to YOUR eyes,
> you assume wrongfully because you want to park closer.

That is Officer Pecksniff for ya!

Total hypocrisy camo'd with some mock outrage.

Ed P wrote:

> On 4/15/2024 3:31 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2024-04-15 2:59 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> > > On 4/15/2024 1:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > > I do understand that there are people with handicaps and I
> > > > think it is especially bad to have the owners of cars with
> > > > handicapped parking permits abusing them. They, of all people,
> > > > should understand how wrong that is.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > There is abuse.  A guy at work bragged that he took his
> > > grandmother's car to the mall when it was crowded so he could
> > > park close.
> >
> > Of course there is abuse.  We all see it.
> >
> >
> > > The other thing you bring up, how can you tell a person is
> > > handicapped? I think it is simple.  When you get your permit, you
> > > also get an "H" tattoo on your forehead
> >
> > Note that I specifically mentioned the number of cars parked in
> > handicapped spaces in front of the gym.
> >
>
> I see a guy parked in the handicapped at the gym. I also see him
> working out. He does upper body lifting as such since he can barely
> walk. Next time I see him, I'll tell him to get the tattoo.

LOL.

small furry animal wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 18:01:17 +0000
> "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>
>>> I do understand that there are people with handicaps and I think it
>>> is especially bad to have the owners of cars with handicapped
>>> parking permits abusing them. They, of all people, should
>>> understand how wrong that is.
>>
>> Again, if you don't see someone with something obvious to YOUR eyes,
>> you assume wrongfully because you want to park closer.
>
> That is Officer Pecksniff for ya!
>
> Total hypocrisy camo'd with some mock outrage.
>
>
Has anyone told officer Dave that sometimes heart patients
like himself also get handicap parking privileges?

Can the fool tell if they have a bad ticker by looking at them?

cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-15 1:12 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>> songbird wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> this topic has gone about as i expected. Dave doesn't
>>>> get it and will not engage brain at all.
>>> Dave doesn't get any form of disability. He doesn't get disability
>>> parking either.
>>
>>
>> Bullshit. It is abuse of handicapped spaces that I object to. Laws
>> may vary from place to place but around here, the permit is for a
>> particular person and if that person is not in the vehicle the driver
>> is not supposed to cannot park in a handicapped space.
>
> Your fallacies show clearly. You make assumptions that all
> disabilities are obvious to your eyes. You've been told this before
> and still refuse to believe it.
>
>
>> I cited the example of the local Y where there are 12 handicapped
>> spaces but there is rarely more than one or two people in there who
>> look like they need one.
>
> You've also been told that is wrong several times. People with
> disabilies go there for physical therapy. As my husband was recovering
> from surgery, he was assigned to go to the Bow Creek rec facility for
> meetings with his physical therapist. The next option was the Y out
> near Mount Trashmore.
>

Trashmore, really?

Sounds like a real classy place.

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:06:37 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-04-15 1:12 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>> songbird wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> this topic has gone about as i expected. Dave doesn't
>>>>> get it and will not engage brain at all.
>>>> Dave doesn't get any form of disability. He doesn't get disability
>>>> parking either.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bullshit. It is abuse of handicapped spaces that I object to. Laws
>>> may vary from place to place but around here, the permit is for a
>>> particular person and if that person is not in the vehicle the driver
>>> is not supposed to cannot park in a handicapped space.
>>
>> Your fallacies show clearly. You make assumptions that all
>> disabilities are obvious to your eyes. You've been told this before
>> and still refuse to believe it.
>>
>>
>>> I cited the example of the local Y where there are 12 handicapped
>>> spaces but there is rarely more than one or two people in there who
>>> look like they need one.
>>
>> You've also been told that is wrong several times. People with
>> disabilies go there for physical therapy. As my husband was recovering
>> from surgery, he was assigned to go to the Bow Creek rec facility for
>> meetings with his physical therapist. The next option was the Y out
>> near Mount Trashmore.
>>
>
>Trashmore, really?
>
>Sounds like a real classy place.

Why would you be interested in classy places?

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:20:23 -0400
Chris_P_Bacon <c.p.bacon1@none.none> wrote:

> small furry animal wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 18:01:17 +0000
> > "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> I do understand that there are people with handicaps and I think
> >>> it is especially bad to have the owners of cars with handicapped
> >>> parking permits abusing them. They, of all people, should
> >>> understand how wrong that is.
> >>
> >> Again, if you don't see someone with something obvious to YOUR
> >> eyes, you assume wrongfully because you want to park closer.
> >
> > That is Officer Pecksniff for ya!
> >
> > Total hypocrisy camo'd with some mock outrage.
> >
> >
> Has anyone told officer Dave that sometimes heart patients
> like himself also get handicap parking privileges?

Doh!
> Can the fool tell if they have a bad ticker by looking at them?

The canuckleheaded trucker cops have their ways, eh?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:09:40 +1000
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >Trashmore, really?
> >
> >Sounds like a real classy place.
>
> Why would you be interested in classy places?

Too much time logged in here?

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 16:22:13 -0600, small furry animal
<grooving@with.apict> wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:09:40 +1000
>Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >Trashmore, really?
>> >
>> >Sounds like a real classy place.
>>
>> Why would you be interested in classy places?
>
>Too much time logged in here?

He's obsessed with asses and farts. I don't know how that would work
for him in a classy place. They'd throw him out.

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:29:33 +1000
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 16:22:13 -0600, small furry animal
> <grooving@with.apict> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:09:40 +1000
> >Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> >Trashmore, really?
> >> >
> >> >Sounds like a real classy place.
> >>
> >> Why would you be interested in classy places?
> >
> >Too much time logged in here?
>
> He's obsessed with asses and farts. I don't know how that would work
> for him in a classy place. They'd throw him out.

Oh dear oh dear...

small furry animal wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:29:33 +1000
> Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 16:22:13 -0600, small furry animal
>> <grooving@with.apict> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:09:40 +1000
>>> Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Trashmore, really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a real classy place.
>>>>
>>>> Why would you be interested in classy places?
>>>
>>> Too much time logged in here?
>>
>> He's obsessed with asses and farts. I don't know how that would work
>> for him in a classy place. They'd throw him out.
>
> Oh dear oh dear...
>

If you bend over a little farther, master bruce will sniff your ass too.