On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 05:04:28 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 18:35:52 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:29:34 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:00:50 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/24/23 08:36, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> | Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing
>>>>> | face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at
>>>>> | preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus,
>>>>> | according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to-control-covid-19/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The report:
>>>>> <https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/impact-non-pharmaceutical-interventions-on-covid-19-transmission/>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>>This garbage again?
>>>
>>>It's time to try to control people again.
>>
>>Its not going to work this time.
>
>No, it's not. Trump is going to prison and the GOP is going to lose many, many elections
>over the next few years.
>
>Swill

You really start to look like Wile E Coyte after a bit...

On 8/26/2023 6:53 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 19:34:07 -0700, Siri Cruise
> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:29:34 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:00:50 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/24/23 08:36, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> | Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing
>>>>>> | face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at
>>>>>> | preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus,
>>>>>> | according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> <https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to-control-covid-19/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The report:
>>>>>> <https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/impact-non-pharmaceutical-interventions-on-covid-19-transmission/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>> This garbage again?
>>>>
>>>> It's time to try to control people again.
>>>
>>> Its not going to work this time.
>>>
>>
>> You regret you have but one life to give, so you'll infect your
>> entire family.
>
> Given that masks have been shown in multiple studies not to work

Bullshit.

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:46:05 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>As opposed to the inflation,

11% when Reagan was President.

debt,

A third of which is Trump's, two thirds of the debt is Republican.

>wars,

We're not in any wars. We're supplying arms for one. Meanwhile Bush started two, one of
which ran over twenty years.

>interest rates,

Which reached 17% under Reagan.

>and loss of buying power brought to us by Biden?

Republican policies that once again forced the government to intervene in the economy.

> As the media is in favor of this, they won't give it a name.

As you're so deluded, why do you think anybody would consider your opinion valid?

Swill

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On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:53:15 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Given that masks have been shown in multiple studies not to work

Liar.

Swill
--
White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

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On 2023-08-26, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 20:56:50 -0400, Governor Swill
><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:01:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Exactly.
>>>They need to get the Biden family corruption off the news cycle. Get ready for lockdowns, destroyed
>>>businesses and ruined lives, especially school age children.
>>>
>>>Our economy barely survived the last control experiment and that was when the economy was very
>>>strong, inflation low, interest rates low and a strong dollar.
>>>
>>>Considering the disaster our economy is now, we will never survive another pandemic lockdown.
>>>And maybe that's just what the elite want.
>>
>>So we should give management of the economy to the GOP? The authors of the Great
>>Depression and the Great Recession?
>>
>
> As opposed to the inflation, debt, wars, interest rates, and loss of
> buying power brought to us by Biden? As the media is in favor of
> this, they won't give it a name.
>>Swill

It's interesting to see how the media treats Biden vs how they yammered on for 5 years with every
time Trump ate a Big Mac or said something controversial that they would of course take out of
context like they do.

Biden gets a pass on all of his lies, gaffs, falling asleep, falling down, getting lost, walking
around like a corpse and of course the Joe Biden crime family syndicate.

And all because the left are afraid of Donald Trump because unlike Biden, he isn't bought and paid
for.. Notice how the media is now attacking Ramaswamy? That's because like Trump he is a DC
outsider and thus prone to exposing the corruption of government.

This country is on a fast track towards becoming a banana republic.

--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

On 2023-08-26, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 18:35:52 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:29:34 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:00:50 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/24/23 08:36, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> | Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing
>>>>> | face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at
>>>>> | preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus,
>>>>> | according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to-control-covid-19/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The report:
>>>>> <https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/impact-non-pharmaceutical-interventions-on-covid-19-transmission/>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>>This garbage again?
>>>
>>>It's time to try to control people again.
>>
>>Its not going to work this time.
>
> Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.

They are taking the bait already. In my town I see people once again wearing masks.

--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

On 8/26/2023 8:36 AM, Charlie Glock wrote:
> On 2023-08-26, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 20:56:50 -0400, Governor Swill
>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:01:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly.
>>>> They need to get the Biden family corruption off the news cycle. Get ready for lockdowns, destroyed
>>>> businesses and ruined lives, especially school age children.
>>>>
>>>> Our economy barely survived the last control experiment and that was when the economy was very
>>>> strong, inflation low, interest rates low and a strong dollar.
>>>>
>>>> Considering the disaster our economy is now, we will never survive another pandemic lockdown.
>>>> And maybe that's just what the elite want.
>>>
>>> So we should give management of the economy to the GOP? The authors of the Great
>>> Depression and the Great Recession?
>>>
>>
>> As opposed to the inflation, debt, wars, interest rates, and loss of
>> buying power brought to us by Biden? As the media is in favor of
>> this, they won't give it a name.
>>> Swill
>
> It's interesting to see how the media treats Biden vs how they yammered on for 5 years with every
> time Trump ate a Big Mac or said something controversial that they would of course take out of
> context like they do.

"Out of context" — *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*! That's one of the lamest regular
whinges of right-wingnuts.

On 2023-08-26, NoBody <NoBody@noplace.com> wrote:
> On 8/26/2023 8:36 AM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>> On 2023-08-26, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 20:56:50 -0400, Governor Swill
>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:01:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>> They need to get the Biden family corruption off the news cycle. Get ready for lockdowns, destroyed
>>>>> businesses and ruined lives, especially school age children.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our economy barely survived the last control experiment and that was when the economy was very
>>>>> strong, inflation low, interest rates low and a strong dollar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the disaster our economy is now, we will never survive another pandemic lockdown.
>>>>> And maybe that's just what the elite want.
>>>>
>>>> So we should give management of the economy to the GOP? The authors of the Great
>>>> Depression and the Great Recession?
>>>>
>>>
>>> As opposed to the inflation, debt, wars, interest rates, and loss of
>>> buying power brought to us by Biden? As the media is in favor of
>>> this, they won't give it a name.
>>>> Swill
>>
>> It's interesting to see how the media treats Biden vs how they yammered on for 5 years with every
>> time Trump ate a Big Mac or said something controversial that they would of course take out of
>> context like they do.
>
> "Out of context" — *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*! That's one of the lamest regular
> whinges of right-wingnuts.
>
Ask Nicholos Sandman about the msm taking things out of context.

Then we have the "Hand's Up Don't Shoot" lie which the media promoted for weeks until it turned out
to be false, and never stated, which they knew from the start.

And of course Trump's "fine people on both sides" statement which was completely taken out of
context.

<https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/>

And of course the statement that started it all, when Trump said of the border "they are not
sending their best" which as we can see has turned out to be true.

--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 15:36:45 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>This country is on a fast track towards becoming a banana republic.

If I were you, I'd develop a taste for bananas.

Swill
--
White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 16:09:40 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>Ask Nicholos Sandman about the msm taking things out of context.

Anything the right can say about the left, the left can say about the right with equal
accuracy.

Swill
--
White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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Charlie Glock wrote:
> On 2023-08-26, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 18:35:52 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
>> <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:29:34 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:00:50 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/24/23 08:36, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> | Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing
>>>>>> | face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at
>>>>>> | preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus,
>>>>>> | according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> <https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to-control-covid-19/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The report:
>>>>>> <https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/impact-non-pharmaceutical-interventions-on-covid-19-transmission/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>> This garbage again?
>>>>
>>>> It's time to try to control people again.
>>>
>>> Its not going to work this time.
>>
>> Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.
>
> They are taking the bait already. In my town I see people once again wearing masks.
>

You're both correct about Magoo voters.

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On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:53:15 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 19:34:07 -0700, Siri Cruise
><chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:29:34 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:00:50 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/24/23 08:36, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> | Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing
>>>>>> | face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at
>>>>>> | preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus,
>>>>>> | according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society
>>>>>> | ...
>>>>>> <https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to-control-covid-19/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The report:
>>>>>> <https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/impact-non-pharmaceutical-interventions-on-covid-19-transmission/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>> This garbage again?
>>>>
>>>> It's time to try to control people again.
>>>
>>> Its not going to work this time.
>>>
>>
>>You regret you have but one life to give, so you'll infect your
>>entire family.
>
>Given that masks have been shown in multiple studies not to work what
>point are you trying to make? The facts are there is no consensus in
>the studies so your article about "unequivocally effective" is
>disputed even by the CDC.

Leftist fear mongering didn't work very good here in Florida last
time. It's not going to work at all this time. Yeah, there are a few
loonies wearing masks arounf here. I always cover my mouth with my
hand and fake a cough when they come around me.

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:51:11 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 18:35:52 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:29:34 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:00:50 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/24/23 08:36, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> | Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing
>>>>> | face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at
>>>>> | preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus,
>>>>> | according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to-control-covid-19/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The report:
>>>>> <https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/impact-non-pharmaceutical-interventions-on-covid-19-transmission/>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>>This garbage again?
>>>
>>>It's time to try to control people again.
>>
>>Its not going to work this time.
>
>Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.

I know some of the letists are stupid enough to be suckered again...

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 11:00:14 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:46:05 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>As opposed to the inflation,
>
>11% when Reagan was President.

Whattaboutism?

>
> debt,
>
>A third of which is Trump's, two thirds of the debt is Republican.

Citations? The trillions in new spending by Biden and the Dems caused
the inflation. Spare me the citations about national debt from the
beginning of the country as that is not what I'm talking about.

>
>>wars,
>
>We're not in any wars. We're supplying arms for one. Meanwhile Bush started two, one of
>which ran over twenty years.

Whattaboutism. We are funding and sending our arms in a proxy war.
Biden was responsible for the decisions that lead to deaths when we
left Afghanistan.

>
>>interest rates,
>
>Which reached 17% under Reagan.

Whattaboutism. The interest rates are stalling the economy, the
housing market and the car market. People don't have money.

>
>>and loss of buying power brought to us by Biden?
>
>Republican policies that once again forced the government to intervene in the economy.

A complete lie.

>
>> As the media is in favor of this, they won't give it a name.
>
>As you're so deluded, why do you think anybody would consider your opinion valid?

You're the guy who's relying on "it was worse 40 years ago" as a
response to today's problems.

Damn...

>
>Swill

"It bears repeating. Trumpers don't understand what happens when you
insult and degrade people. They don't take it well."

"Insulting and degrading people? No, not a crime but that doesn't
mean you won't have any consequences to deal with."
Swilly 8/16/2023 failing once again to see the irony in his remarks

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:45:09 -0700, NoBody <NoBody@noplace.com> wrote:

>On 8/26/2023 8:36 AM, Charlie Glock wrote:
>> On 2023-08-26, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 20:56:50 -0400, Governor Swill
>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:01:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>> They need to get the Biden family corruption off the news cycle. Get ready for lockdowns, destroyed
>>>>> businesses and ruined lives, especially school age children.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our economy barely survived the last control experiment and that was when the economy was very
>>>>> strong, inflation low, interest rates low and a strong dollar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the disaster our economy is now, we will never survive another pandemic lockdown.
>>>>> And maybe that's just what the elite want.
>>>>
>>>> So we should give management of the economy to the GOP? The authors of the Great
>>>> Depression and the Great Recession?
>>>>
>>>
>>> As opposed to the inflation, debt, wars, interest rates, and loss of
>>> buying power brought to us by Biden? As the media is in favor of
>>> this, they won't give it a name.
>>>> Swill
>>
>> It's interesting to see how the media treats Biden vs how they yammered on for 5 years with every
>> time Trump ate a Big Mac or said something controversial that they would of course take out of
>> context like they do.
>
>"Out of context" — *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*! That's one of the lamest regular
>whinges of right-wingnuts.

Oh look, Rudely is back to impersonating me.

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 13:36:30 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 16:09:40 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>
>>Ask Nicholos Sandman about the msm taking things out of context.
>
>Anything the right can say about the left, the left can say about the right with equal
>accuracy.
>
>Swill

Why can't you address what he said other than resorting to
whattaboutism?

"It bears repeating. Trumpers don't understand what happens when you
insult and degrade people. They don't take it well."

"Insulting and degrading people? No, not a crime but that doesn't
mean you won't have any consequences to deal with."
Swilly 8/16/2023 failing once again to see the irony in his remarks

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 11:00:44 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:53:15 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>Given that masks have been shown in multiple studies not to work
>
>Liar.
>
>Swill

"After questioning the value of general mask-wearing early in the
COVID-19 pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
decided the practice was so demonstrably effective that it should be
legally mandated even for 2-year-olds. A new review of the evidence
suggests the CDC had it right the first time.

That review, published by the Cochrane Library, an authoritative
collection of scientific databases, analyzed 18 randomized controlled
trials that aimed to measure the impact of surgical masks or N95
respirators on the transmission of respiratory viruses. It found that
wearing a mask in public places “probably makes little or no
difference” in the number of infections.

These findings go to the heart of the case for mask mandates, a policy
that generated much resentment and acrimony during the pandemic. They
also show that the CDC, which has repeatedly exaggerated the evidence
in favor of masks, cannot be trusted as a source of public health
information."

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2023/2/8/23591132/cdc-exaggerated-evidence-supporting-mask-mandates-column-jacob-sullum

"Cloth masks have been used in healthcare and community settings to
protect the wearer from respiratory infections. The use of cloth masks
during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic is under debate.
The filtration effectiveness of cloth masks is generally lower than
that of medical masks and respirators; however, cloth masks may
provide some protection if well designed and used correctly. "

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article

"May"???? "If?".....

"Medical/surgical masks compared to no masks

We included 12 trials (10 cluster-RCTs) comparing medical/surgical
masks versus no masks to prevent the spread of viral respiratory
illness (two trials with healthcare workers and 10 in the community).
Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference
to the outcome of influenza-like illness (ILI)/COVID-19 like illness
compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence
interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants;
moderate-certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably
makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory-confirmed
influenza/SARS-CoV-2 compared to not wearing masks (RR 1.01, 95% CI
0.72 to 1.42; 6 trials, 13,919 participants; moderate-certainty
evidence). Harms were rarely measured and poorly reported (very
low-certainty evidence). "

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

Next, Swilly will complain in some other thread that I *never* back up
my claims... <eyeroll>

"It bears repeating. Trumpers don't understand what happens when you
insult and degrade people. They don't take it well."

"Insulting and degrading people? No, not a crime but that doesn't
mean you won't have any consequences to deal with."
Swilly 8/16/2023 failing once again to see the irony in his remarks

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:43:13 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 11:00:14 -0400, Governor Swill
><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:46:05 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>As opposed to the inflation,
>>
>>11% when Reagan was President.
>
>Whattaboutism?

Perspective. The double digit inflation of the eighties puts today's 3.x% rate in a
different perspective.

>>A third of which is Trump's, two thirds of the debt is Republican.
>
>Citations? The trillions in new spending by Biden and the Dems caused
>the inflation. Spare me the citations about national debt from the
>beginning of the country as that is not what I'm talking about.

Um, most of those trillions went out under Trump and you know it. May and December 2020
plus the PPP for business into which hundreds of unaccounted for billions disappeared.

>>We're not in any wars. We're supplying arms for one. Meanwhile Bush started two, one of
>>which ran over twenty years.
>
>Whattaboutism.

Perspective. Clarifying your lie and the depths to which you will go to lie.

>We are funding and sending our arms in a proxy war.

Correct. For a change.

>Biden was responsible for the decisions that lead to deaths when we
>left Afghanistan.

Not alone he wasn't. Trump bears responsibility and you want to pretend his hands are
clean.

>>>interest rates,
>>
>>Which reached 17% under Reagan.
>
>Whattaboutism.

Again, you're carrying on like a 7% rate is a nightmare. It's been FAR higher in the
past. I recall a line from a movie in which a homeowner, responding to a cold purchase
offer, responded that with a 6.5% rate mortgage, you couldn't blast her out of her house.

Perspective.

>The interest rates are stalling the economy, the
>housing market and the car market. People don't have money.

Yet they're spending heavily. And on luxury and 'elective' goods and services. That
means they have confidence. If we have a good Xmas shopping season this year, you're
going to *drown* from the amount of egg on your face.

>>>and loss of buying power brought to us by Biden?
>>
>>Republican policies that once again forced the government to intervene in the economy.
>
>A complete lie.

Not at all. For the past thirty years the GOP has held the Congress for the great
majority of the time and often the White House as well. Considering the GOP ran the
Congress for 20 of the past 30 years and had the White House as well for a good many of
those years, it looks like if you're not happy with the government, you have only
yourselves to blame. The Bush and Trump tax cuts are responsible for the majority of the
national debt. If Bush had left taxes alone, the entire national debt would have been
paid off by now.

>>> As the media is in favor of this, they won't give it a name.
>>
>>As you're so deluded, why do you think anybody would consider your opinion valid?
>
>You're the guy who's relying on "it was worse 40 years ago" as a
>response to today's problems.

I'm celebrating that today's problems are minor, at worst.

Swill
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:55:01 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 11:00:44 -0400, Governor Swill
><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:53:15 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Given that masks have been shown in multiple studies not to work
>>
>>Liar.
>>
>>Swill
>
>"After questioning the value of general mask-wearing early in the
>COVID-19 pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
>decided the practice was so demonstrably effective that it should be
>legally mandated even for 2-year-olds. A new review of the evidence
>suggests the CDC had it right the first time.

What nobody ever got was that masks help prevent spread not by keeping the wearer safe,
but by keeping everybody safe from the wearer.

Surgical teams don't wear masks so *they* won't catch something, they wear them so their
*patients* don't get sick.

Think about that.

Swill
--
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things Mike Lindell says.

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 19:36:28 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:55:01 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 11:00:44 -0400, Governor Swill
>><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:53:15 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Given that masks have been shown in multiple studies not to work
>>>
>>>Liar.
>>>
>>>Swill
>>
>>"After questioning the value of general mask-wearing early in the
>>COVID-19 pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
>>decided the practice was so demonstrably effective that it should be
>>legally mandated even for 2-year-olds. A new review of the evidence
>>suggests the CDC had it right the first time.
>
>What nobody ever got was that masks help prevent spread not by keeping the wearer safe,
>but by keeping everybody safe from the wearer.
>

Ignore the evidence and redirect. It's the Swilly way.

"It bears repeating. Trumpers don't understand what happens when you
insult and degrade people. They don't take it well."

"Insulting and degrading people? No, not a crime but that doesn't
mean you won't have any consequences to deal with."
Swilly 8/16/2023 failing once again to see the irony in his remarks

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 19:24:38 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:43:13 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 11:00:14 -0400, Governor Swill
>><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:46:05 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>As opposed to the inflation,
>>>
>>>11% when Reagan was President.
>>
>>Whattaboutism?
>
>Perspective. The double digit inflation of the eighties puts today's 3.x% rate in a
>different perspective.
>

But not relevant for today's problem and not the topic. That's
evasion.

>>>A third of which is Trump's, two thirds of the debt is Republican.
>>
>>Citations? The trillions in new spending by Biden and the Dems caused
>>the inflation. Spare me the citations about national debt from the
>>beginning of the country as that is not what I'm talking about.
>
>Um, most of those trillions went out under Trump and you know it. May and December 2020
>plus the PPP for business into which hundreds of unaccounted for billions disappeared.
>

Wrong.

Trump spend 1.9B in Covid relief and then another 1T on the Inflation
production act.

>>>We're not in any wars. We're supplying arms for one. Meanwhile Bush started two, one of
>>>which ran over twenty years.
>>
>>Whattaboutism.
>
>Perspective. Clarifying your lie and the depths to which you will go to lie.

Same answer as last.

>
>>We are funding and sending our arms in a proxy war.
>
>Correct. For a change.

You were just denying it...

>
>>Biden was responsible for the decisions that lead to deaths when we
>>left Afghanistan.
>
>Not alone he wasn't. Trump bears responsibility and you want to pretend his hands are
>clean.

Nope. Biden issued the order and did nothing as Americans were killed.

>
>>>>interest rates,
>>>
>>>Which reached 17% under Reagan.
>>
>>Whattaboutism.
>
>Again, you're carrying on like a 7% rate is a nightmare. It's been FAR higher in the
>past. I recall a line from a movie in which a homeowner, responding to a cold purchase
>offer, responded that with a 6.5% rate mortgage, you couldn't blast her out of her house.
>

Given that interest rates were near 0% and now 7% that quite an
increase in cost that Americans don't have.

>Perspective.

Evasion.

>
>>The interest rates are stalling the economy, the
>>housing market and the car market. People don't have money.
>
>Yet they're spending heavily. And on luxury and 'elective' goods and services. That
>means they have confidence. If we have a good Xmas shopping season this year, you're
>going to *drown* from the amount of egg on your face.

You DO understand that they're going into record debt to do this. The
price that will be paid for this will be mind blowing.

>
>>>>and loss of buying power brought to us by Biden?
>>>
>>>Republican policies that once again forced the government to intervene in the economy.
>>
>>A complete lie.
>
>Not at all. For the past thirty years the GOP has held the Congress for the great
>majority of the time and often the White House as well. Considering the GOP ran the
>Congress for 20 of the past 30 years and had the White House as well for a good many of
>those years, it looks like if you're not happy with the government, you have only
>yourselves to blame. The Bush and Trump tax cuts are responsible for the majority of the
>national debt. If Bush had left taxes alone, the entire national debt would have been
>paid off by now.

A longer version of your evasive lie.

>
>>>> As the media is in favor of this, they won't give it a name.
>>>
>>>As you're so deluded, why do you think anybody would consider your opinion valid?
>>
>>You're the guy who's relying on "it was worse 40 years ago" as a
>>response to today's problems.
>
>I'm celebrating that today's problems are minor, at worst.

Record consumer debt, real buying power loss, people not being able to
buy cars due to tight lending practices, increasing reps. The list
goes on...

Yeah minor.

<eyeroll>

"It bears repeating. Trumpers don't understand what happens when you
insult and degrade people. They don't take it well."

"Insulting and degrading people? No, not a crime but that doesn't
mean you won't have any consequences to deal with."
Swilly 8/16/2023 failing once again to see the irony in his remarks
>
>Swill

NoBody wrote:
> Given that interest rates were near 0% and now 7% that quite an
> increase in cost that Americans don't have.

And you don't see a problem with 0%, inflation, and savings.

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 05:23:25 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> Given that interest rates were near 0% and now 7% that quite an
>> increase in cost that Americans don't have.
>
>And you don't see a problem with 0%, inflation, and savings.

The only reason interest rates were that low to start with was to support the economy Bush
and the Republicans ran off a cliff.

That rates have gone up under Biden proves at least one thing: The 2008 Great Recession
is finally over.

Swill
--
"He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
things Mike Lindell says.

GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 09:57:57 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 05:23:25 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>NoBody wrote:
>>> Given that interest rates were near 0% and now 7% that quite an
>>> increase in cost that Americans don't have.
>>
>>And you don't see a problem with 0%, inflation, and savings.
>
>The only reason interest rates were that low to start with was to support the economy Bush
>and the Republicans ran off a cliff.
>

You mean the fantastic economy that you Covidiots destroyed?

>That rates have gone up under Biden proves at least one thing: The 2008 Great Recession
>is finally over.

You really *are* this delusional

>
>Swill

"It bears repeating. Trumpers don't understand what happens when you
insult and degrade people. They don't take it well."

"Insulting and degrading people? No, not a crime but that doesn't
mean you won't have any consequences to deal with."
Swilly 8/16/2023 failing once again to see the irony in his remarks