Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol, Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.

According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:

Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.

Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false, the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abjjkst@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
>Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
>
>According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
>
>Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
>
>Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
>the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
>
> https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis

Pani Basiu,

Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.

zalek

On 2022-04-05 3:26, Basia wrote:
> Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol, Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
>
> According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
>
> Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
>
> Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false, the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
>
> https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis

Podobno 50% tych z AZOV to pedały!

..

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
> >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> >
> >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> >
> >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
>
> >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
> >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> >
> > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
>
> Pani Basiu,
>
> Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
> uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.

Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.

Basia

On 2022-04-05 10:37, Zexon wrote:
> On 2022-04-05 3:26, Basia wrote:
>> Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol, Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
>>
>> According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
>>
>> Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
>>
>> Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false, the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
>>
>> https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
>
> Podobno 50% tych z AZOV to pedały!
>
Bardzo możliwe, ci z SA to też byli w większości zboczeńcy.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abjjkst@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>> >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
>> >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
>> >
>> >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
>> >
>> >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
>>
>> >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
>> >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
>> >
>> > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
>>
>> Pani Basiu,
>>
>> Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
>> uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
>
>Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
>nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.
>
>Basia

Tak jak powiedzialem - Pani ma prawo rozpowszechniac plotke ze
Pentagon zaprzecza albo ze Pentagon nie zaprzecza, ja jestem
mezczyzna, wiec nie moge.

zalek

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> > >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
> > >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> > >
> > >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> > >
> > >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> >
> > >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
> > >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> > >
> > > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
> >
> > Pani Basiu,
> >
> > Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
> > uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
>
> Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
> nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.

Tutaj zdjecie z przed miesiaca ukazujace
Generala Roger L. Cloutiera na Ukrainie:

https://twitter.com/Miguel18011505/status/1511323633339498503/photo/1
Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 3:05:42 PM UTC-2:30, Andrey wrote:
> On 2022-04-05 10:37, Zexon wrote:

> > Podobno 50% tych z AZOV to pedały!
> Bardzo możliwe, ci z SA to też byli w większości zboczeńcy.
Aaa - w takim razie napasc na Ukraine i mordy rosyjskiej armii na cywilach - sa w porzadku ...

Uderz w stol, putinowskie trolle wypelzna. I czy nie piekna ilustracja powiedzenia o strange bedfellows -
oto wsrod wybielaczy Putina -- w srodku "Basia" - marzacy o dlugich falusach jurnych Semitow
- a po jego bokach - Zenon i Andrey, wg ktorych broniacy sie przed Putinem Ukraincy maja zaslugiwac
na mordowanie, bo to "pedały! " (c) Zenon i "zboczeńcy" (c) Andrey.).

"Basia" - "Zexon" i "Andrey" , "Zexon" i "Andrey" - "Basia".

On 4/5/2022 11:26 AM, Basia wrote:
> Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol, Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
>
> According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
>
> Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
>
> Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false, the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
>
> https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis

Whoa, the Subi girl from Colorado! I exchanged a few messages with you a
few years ago as I was planning to buy a Subaru myself, but then I moved
to Hungary and here I bought something else.
I only subscribed to this newsgroup to see what our Polish "bratanki"
have to say about issues that are mutual concerns to our nations, AND
last not least, to refresh my knowledge of Polish language that I almost
forgot in the US.

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-7, Cameo wrote:
> On 4/5/2022 11:26 AM, Basia wrote:
> > Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol, Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> >
> > According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> >
> > Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> >
> > Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false, the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> >
> > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
>
> Whoa, the Subi girl from Colorado! I exchanged a few messages with you a
> few years ago as I was planning to buy a Subaru myself, but then I moved
> to Hungary and here I bought something else.
> I only subscribed to this newsgroup to see what our Polish "bratanki"
> have to say about issues that are mutual concerns to our nations, AND
> last not least, to refresh my knowledge of Polish language that I almost
> forgot in the US.

Hi Subi Girl, nice to hear from you ...and welcome
to soc.culture.polish!

You'll find plenty of info here, many varying
opinions and many interesting people.
I am sure you'll be witness to a plethora
of lively discussions :)))

I still cling to my old Impreza L Coupe but
haven't been driving it much in the last two years
due to COVID and working remotely from home.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> > >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
> > >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> > >
> > >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> > >
> > >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> >
> > >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
> > >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> > >
> > > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
> >
> > Pani Basiu,
> >
> > Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
> > uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
>
> Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
> nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.

Jest 'denial.' Wiadomosc sam General zdementowal.
Jako dowod wypostowal swoje zdjecia z Turcji gdzie
przebywa.

Nikomu krzywda zadna sie nie stala, panie Zalku,
a przy okazji spokesman NATO oznajmil ze na Ukrainie
nie ma zadnych wojskowych NATO: "no NATO soldiers
or leaders are deployed to the country."

https://archive.ph/RFghb

Btw. Gdyby Rosjanie Generala pojmali przypuszczam
ze mogli by nie ujawniac faktu, bo sytuacja kreujaca
wiele problemow.

Maj. Brian Andries, deputy public affairs officer at NATO Allied Land Command, confirmed in an email to PolitiFact that Cloutier has not been captured..

"These rumors are completely false," Andries said. "Our commander is currently commanding NATO Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey, and has not been to Ukraine since the Land Staff Talks we conducted in July of 2021. While NATO nations are sending financial and military aid to Ukraine, no NATO soldiers or leaders are deployed to the country."

On April 5, one day after he was alleged to have been captured, Cloutier shared photos from an event in Turkey to his LinkedIn profile. One commenter responding to the post asked Cloutier about the rumors that he had been taken captive by Russian forces.

https://archive.ph/RFghb

On Wednesday, 6 April 2022 at 17:43:04 UTC+2, Basia wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
> > > >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> > > >
> > > >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> > > >
> > > >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> > >
> > > >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
> > > >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> > > >
> > > > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
> > >
> > > Pani Basiu,
> > >
> > > Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
> > > uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
> >
> > Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
> > nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.
> Jest 'denial.' Wiadomosc sam General zdementowal.
> Jako dowod wypostowal swoje zdjecia z Turcji gdzie
> przebywa.
>
> Nikomu krzywda zadna sie nie stala, panie Zalku,
> a przy okazji spokesman NATO oznajmil ze na Ukrainie
> nie ma zadnych wojskowych NATO: "no NATO soldiers
> or leaders are deployed to the country."
>
> https://archive.ph/RFghb
>
> Btw. Gdyby Rosjanie Generala pojmali przypuszczam
> ze mogli by nie ujawniac faktu, bo sytuacja kreujaca
> wiele problemow.
>
> Maj. Brian Andries, deputy public affairs officer at NATO Allied Land Command, confirmed in an email to PolitiFact that Cloutier has not been captured.
>
> "These rumors are completely false," Andries said. "Our commander is currently commanding NATO Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey, and has not been to Ukraine since the Land Staff Talks we conducted in July of 2021. While NATO nations are sending financial and military aid to Ukraine, no NATO soldiers or leaders are deployed to the country."
>
> On April 5, one day after he was alleged to have been captured, Cloutier shared photos from an event in Turkey to his LinkedIn profile. One commenter responding to the post asked Cloutier about the rumors that he had been taken captive by Russian forces.
>
> https://archive.ph/RFghb
w dyplomacji zaprzeczenie oznacza potwierdzenie
czyli się wygadali

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 11:37:37 AM UTC-5, Zexon wrote:
> On 2022-04-05 3:26, Basia wrote:
> > Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol, Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> >
> > According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> >
> > Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> >
> > Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false, the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> >
> > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
> Podobno 50% tych z AZOV to pedały!
>
>
> .
To sa narodowcy, wiec to nie jest nispodzianka.

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-2:30, mant...@gmail.com wrote:

> > "These rumors are completely false," Andries said. "Our commander is currently commanding NATO Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey, and has not been to Ukraine since the Land Staff Talks we conducted in July of 2021. While NATO nations are sending financial and military aid to Ukraine, no NATO soldiers or leaders are deployed to the country."
> >
> > On April 5, one day after he was alleged to have been captured, Cloutier shared photos from an event in Turkey to his LinkedIn profile. One commenter responding to the post asked Cloutier about the rumors that he had been taken captive by Russian forces.

> w dyplomacji zaprzeczenie oznacza potwierdzenie czyli się wygadali

skoro wiec Amerykanie zaprzeczaja jakoby sfingowali ladowanie na Ksiezycu ......

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abjjkst@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
>> > >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
>> > >
>> > >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
>> > >
>> > >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
>> >
>> > >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
>> > >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
>> > >
>> > > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
>> >
>> > Pani Basiu,
>> >
>> > Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
>> > uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
>>
>> Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
>> nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.
>
>Jest 'denial.' Wiadomosc sam General zdementowal.
>Jako dowod wypostowal swoje zdjecia z Turcji gdzie
>przebywa.
>
>Nikomu krzywda zadna sie nie stala, panie Zalku,
>a przy okazji spokesman NATO oznajmil ze na Ukrainie
>nie ma zadnych wojskowych NATO: "no NATO soldiers
>or leaders are deployed to the country."
>
> https://archive.ph/RFghb
>
>Btw. Gdyby Rosjanie Generala pojmali przypuszczam
>ze mogli by nie ujawniac faktu, bo sytuacja kreujaca
>wiele problemow.
>
>Maj. Brian Andries, deputy public affairs officer at NATO Allied Land Command, confirmed in an email to PolitiFact that Cloutier has not been captured.
>
>"These rumors are completely false," Andries said. "Our commander is currently commanding NATO Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey, and has not been to
>Ukraine since the Land Staff Talks we conducted in July of 2021. While NATO nations are sending financial and military aid to Ukraine, no NATO soldiers or leaders are deployed to the country."
>
>On April 5, one day after he was alleged to have been captured, Cloutier shared photos from an event in Turkey to his LinkedIn profile. One commenter responding to
>the post asked Cloutier about the rumors that he had been taken captive by Russian forces.
>
> https://archive.ph/RFghb

Skad wiec sie wziela informacja ze generala Rosjanie zlapali?
Wytlumaczenie jest bardzo proste - w ramach propagandy Rosja bedzie
wysylala wiele falszywych informacji, tak ze przecietny czlowiek na
rosyjska wiadomosc ze jakis tam amerykanski zolnierz/general
zginal/zostaj zlapany na Ukrainie, machnie reka i powie - kto wie,
tyle falszywych informacji jest w internecie ze byc moze jest w tym
ziarno prawdy. Im wiecej falszywych informacji, tym trudniej odnalezc
prawde.

zalek

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:26:53 PM UTC-3, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
> >> > >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> >> > >
> >> > >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> >> > >
> >> > >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> >> >
> >> > >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
> >> > >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> >> > >
> >> > > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
> >> >
> >> > Pani Basiu,
> >> >
> >> > Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
> >> > uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
> >>
> >> Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
> >> nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.
> >
> >Jest 'denial.' Wiadomosc sam General zdementowal.
> >Jako dowod wypostowal swoje zdjecia z Turcji gdzie
> >przebywa.
> >
> >Nikomu krzywda zadna sie nie stala, panie Zalku,
> >a przy okazji spokesman NATO oznajmil ze na Ukrainie
> >nie ma zadnych wojskowych NATO: "no NATO soldiers
> >or leaders are deployed to the country."
> >
> > https://archive.ph/RFghb
> >
> >Btw. Gdyby Rosjanie Generala pojmali przypuszczam
> >ze mogli by nie ujawniac faktu, bo sytuacja kreujaca
> >wiele problemow.
> >
> >Maj. Brian Andries, deputy public affairs officer at NATO Allied Land Command, confirmed in an email to PolitiFact that Cloutier has not been captured.
> >
> >"These rumors are completely false," Andries said. "Our commander is currently commanding NATO Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey, and has not been to
> >Ukraine since the Land Staff Talks we conducted in July of 2021. While NATO nations are sending financial and military aid to Ukraine, no NATO soldiers or leaders are deployed to the country."
> >
> >On April 5, one day after he was alleged to have been captured, Cloutier shared photos from an event in Turkey to his LinkedIn profile. One commenter responding to
> >the post asked Cloutier about the rumors that he had been taken captive by Russian forces.
> >
> > https://archive.ph/RFghb
> Skad wiec sie wziela informacja ze generala Rosjanie zlapali?
> Wytlumaczenie jest bardzo proste - w ramach propagandy Rosja bedzie
> wysylala wiele falszywych informacji, tak ze przecietny czlowiek na
> rosyjska wiadomosc ze jakis tam amerykanski zolnierz/general
> zginal/zostaj zlapany na Ukrainie, machnie reka i powie - kto wie,
> tyle falszywych informacji jest w internecie ze byc moze jest w tym
> ziarno prawdy. Im wiecej falszywych informacji, tym trudniej odnalezc
> prawde.
>
> zalek

Basia sieje te informacje z jakas trudna do wytlumaczenia pasja.

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 5:46:03 PM UTC-7, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:26:53 PM UTC-3, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
> > >> > >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> > >> >
> > >> > >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
> > >> > >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
> > >> >
> > >> > Pani Basiu,
> > >> >
> > >> > Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
> > >> > uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
> > >>
> > >> Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
> > >> nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.
> > >
> > >Jest 'denial.' Wiadomosc sam General zdementowal.
> > >Jako dowod wypostowal swoje zdjecia z Turcji gdzie
> > >przebywa.
> > >
> > >Nikomu krzywda zadna sie nie stala, panie Zalku,
> > >a przy okazji spokesman NATO oznajmil ze na Ukrainie
> > >nie ma zadnych wojskowych NATO: "no NATO soldiers
> > >or leaders are deployed to the country."
> > >
> > > https://archive.ph/RFghb
> > >
> > >Btw. Gdyby Rosjanie Generala pojmali przypuszczam
> > >ze mogli by nie ujawniac faktu, bo sytuacja kreujaca
> > >wiele problemow.
> > >
> > >Maj. Brian Andries, deputy public affairs officer at NATO Allied Land Command, confirmed in an email to PolitiFact that Cloutier has not been captured.
> > >
> > >"These rumors are completely false," Andries said. "Our commander is currently commanding NATO Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey, and has not been to
> > >Ukraine since the Land Staff Talks we conducted in July of 2021. While NATO nations are sending financial and military aid to Ukraine, no NATO soldiers or leaders are deployed to the country."
> > >
> > >On April 5, one day after he was alleged to have been captured, Cloutier shared photos from an event in Turkey to his LinkedIn profile. One commenter responding to
> > >the post asked Cloutier about the rumors that he had been taken captive by Russian forces.
> > >
> > > https://archive.ph/RFghb
>
> > Skad wiec sie wziela informacja ze generala Rosjanie zlapali?
> > Wytlumaczenie jest bardzo proste - w ramach propagandy Rosja bedzie
> > wysylala wiele falszywych informacji, tak ze przecietny czlowiek na
> > rosyjska wiadomosc ze jakis tam amerykanski zolnierz/general
> > zginal/zostaj zlapany na Ukrainie, machnie reka i powie - kto wie,
> > tyle falszywych informacji jest w internecie ze byc moze jest w tym
> > ziarno prawdy. Im wiecej falszywych informacji, tym trudniej odnalezc
> > prawde.
> >
> > zalek
>
> Basia sieje te informacje z jakas trudna do wytlumaczenia pasja.

Jest wojna i wszystka informacja jest
niepewna bo wszystkie strony klamia,
uprawiaja zaciekla propagande i
dezinformacje.

Co Zalek proponuje to by nie przyjmowac
do wiadomosci zadnej informacji.

Prawdopodobnie ma racje, ...z tym ze
czlowiek jest ciekawy co sie na tej
wojnie dzieje.

Propagande wlasna latwo jest przejrzec,
i z tego popdu potrzfi byc zenujaca, wiec
naturalnie szuka sie informacji z innych
zrodel nizeli wlasne tuby propagandowe,
a wtedy nadziewa sie czlowiek naturalnie
na cudza propagande slabiej znana w
ktora latwiej jest uwierzyc.

To wszystko jest naprawde bardzo proste.

Wezmy taka rzez w Bucha, przeciez trzeba
bylo by tam byc i na wlasne oczy widziec
by moc powiedziec z pewnoscia kto tam
kogo mordowal. Niesposob zweryfikowac
i pozostaje kwestia wiary, kwestia wiarygodnosci
jaka ktos przypisuje jednym zrodlom vs drugim
gdzie obydwie strony uprawiaja klamstwo
i propagande.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:16:03 PM UTC-2:30, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:26:53 PM UTC-3, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-7, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Basia <abj...@sbcglobal.net>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >Numerous reports are now circulating claiming that United States Army Major General Roger L. Cloutier has been CAPTURED by Russian forces in or around Mariupol,
> > >> > >Ukraine where, the reports claim, he was helping the AZOV Battalion which is Ukraine's official NAZI unit.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >According to Wikipedia, Major General Roger L. Cloutier:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Roger L. Cloutier Jr. is a United States Army lieutenant general who serves as the Commander of the Allied Land Command. Previously, he served as the Commander of the United States Army Africa.
> > >> >
> > >> > >Email to the Pentagon sent several HOURS ago, has gone unanswered which, from a media perspective, is very unusual. If this report was false,
> > >> > >the Pentagon would deny it immediately. They have NOT denied it. But no official answer has come from the Pentagon either way as of 6:10 PM EDT Monday.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/numerous-reports-u-s-army-general-captured-in-mariupol-with-azov-nazis
> > >> >
> > >> > Pani Basiu,
> > >> >
> > >> > Pani jest kobieta, wiec ma Pani prawo rozpowszechniac plotki. Ja
> > >> > uwierze dopiero po tym jak Rosjanie pokaza tego generala.
> > >>
> > >> Pentagon nie zaprzecza wiec nie plotka tylko
> > >> nie zweryfikowana informacja, dlatego podalam.
> > >
> > >Jest 'denial.' Wiadomosc sam General zdementowal.
> > >Jako dowod wypostowal swoje zdjecia z Turcji gdzie
> > >przebywa.
> > >
> > >Nikomu krzywda zadna sie nie stala, panie Zalku,
> > >a przy okazji spokesman NATO oznajmil ze na Ukrainie
> > >nie ma zadnych wojskowych NATO: "no NATO soldiers
> > >or leaders are deployed to the country."
> > >
> > > https://archive.ph/RFghb
> > >
> > >Btw. Gdyby Rosjanie Generala pojmali przypuszczam
> > >ze mogli by nie ujawniac faktu, bo sytuacja kreujaca
> > >wiele problemow.
> > >
> > >Maj. Brian Andries, deputy public affairs officer at NATO Allied Land Command, confirmed in an email to PolitiFact that Cloutier has not been captured.
> > >
> > >"These rumors are completely false," Andries said. "Our commander is currently commanding NATO Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey, and has not been to
> > >Ukraine since the Land Staff Talks we conducted in July of 2021. While NATO nations are sending financial and military aid to Ukraine, no NATO soldiers or leaders are deployed to the country."
> > >
> > >On April 5, one day after he was alleged to have been captured, Cloutier shared photos from an event in Turkey to his LinkedIn profile. One commenter responding to
> > >the post asked Cloutier about the rumors that he had been taken captive by Russian forces.
> > >
> > > https://archive.ph/RFghb
> > Skad wiec sie wziela informacja ze generala Rosjanie zlapali?
> > Wytlumaczenie jest bardzo proste - w ramach propagandy Rosja bedzie
> > wysylala wiele falszywych informacji, tak ze przecietny czlowiek na
> > rosyjska wiadomosc ze jakis tam amerykanski zolnierz/general
> > zginal/zostaj zlapany na Ukrainie, machnie reka i powie - kto wie,
> > tyle falszywych informacji jest w internecie ze byc moze jest w tym
> > ziarno prawdy. Im wiecej falszywych informacji, tym trudniej odnalezc
> > prawde.
> >
> > zalek
> Basia sieje te informacje z jakas trudna do wytlumaczenia pasja.

Nie jest to chyba az takie trudne. Zwolan jest zbyt glupi by byl wynajetym przez Rosje platnym trollem - a wiec pozostaje tylko druga
mozliwosc - uzyteczny idiota Rosji. Jak kazdy uzyteczny idiota - jest nim z powodow politycznych lub psychologicznych.
Pierwsze odpada - bo Zwolan jest za glupi na polityka, przy nim to nawet Trump wyglada na "b. stabilnego geniusza",
co pozostawia tylko druga mozliwosc - psychologiczny motyw. Te mozliwosci przeanalizowalem juz w rownoleglym watku
wiec tylko przypomne:

"Tak wiec, fakt ze Zwolan powtarza propagande Putina i wybiela ludobojcow - wskazuje na duzo glebsze pekniecie etyczne:
-albo chce dostowac rzeczywistosc do swoich absurdalnych teorii etnicznych/rasowych (o zlych Germanach kontrolujacych Zachod;
wczesniej tropil jakichs wynalezionych przez siebie "MuZydow")

- albo probuje dowartosciowac swoje ego - no bo jesli wszyscy inni, z wyjatkiem boukuna, andala, Filipa i Wielobyta, dali sie oszukac
ukrainskiej/ "germanskiej" propagandzie - A ON NIE - to znaczy, ze nie jest tak zle, ze on jednak madrzejszy od wiekszosci, a skoro tak -
to jego zycie, starzejacego sie cross-dressera ("Subi-girl" ...;-)) , nie jest az tak zalosne.

Piotr

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:28:33 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:

> Nie jest to chyba az takie trudne. Zwolan jest zbyt glupi by byl wynajetym przez Rosje platnym trollem - a wiec pozostaje tylko druga
> mozliwosc - uzyteczny idiota Rosji. Jak kazdy uzyteczny idiota - jest nim z powodow politycznych lub psychologicznych.
> Pierwsze odpada - bo Zwolan jest za glupi na polityka, przy nim to nawet Trump wyglada na "b. stabilnego geniusza",
> co pozostawia tylko druga mozliwosc - psychologiczny motyw. Te mozliwosci przeanalizowalem juz w rownoleglym watku
> wiec tylko przypomne:
>
> "Tak wiec, fakt ze Zwolan powtarza propagande Putina i wybiela ludobojcow - wskazuje na duzo glebsze pekniecie etyczne:
> -albo chce dostowac rzeczywistosc do swoich absurdalnych teorii etnicznych/rasowych (o zlych Germanach kontrolujacych Zachod;
> wczesniej tropil jakichs wynalezionych przez siebie "MuZydow")
>
> - albo probuje dowartosciowac swoje ego - no bo jesli wszyscy inni, z wyjatkiem boukuna, andala, Filipa i Wielobyta, dali sie oszukac
> ukrainskiej/ "germanskiej" propagandzie - A ON NIE - to znaczy, ze nie jest tak zle, ze on jednak madrzejszy od wiekszosci, a skoro tak -
> to jego zycie, starzejacego sie cross-dressera ("Subi-girl" ...;-)) , nie jest az tak zalosne.
>
> Piotr

Dear Cameo,

Please accept my apologies for Piotr Trela's
behavior -mistaken identity case. He is a nuisance
on the forum. Every newsgroup has one.
Soc.culture.polish is no exception.

To correct the identity error I am posting a link
to "alt.autos.subaru" listing some of our past
discussions. I hope you don't mind, Cameo.

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.autos.subaru/search?q="Cameo"%20"Basia"

Piotr Trela is a professor at Memorial University,
Canada, and is a nutcase. Please ignore him in
the future, as he is unlikely to change his behavior
or give any apologies.

https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C5603AQHGJLrLAhIZ7A/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/0/1516935141323?e=1652313600&v=beta&t=z4WXnb4HLozbKcr9_Xt10vEkVWyEdwLvOgcerudsvZM

https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1389770

---------
Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:28:33 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:16:03 PM UTC-2:30, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Basia sieje te informacje z jakas trudna do wytlumaczenia pasja.
>
> Nie jest to chyba az takie trudne. Zwolan jest zbyt glupi by byl wynajetym przez Rosje platnym trollem - a wiec pozostaje tylko druga
> mozliwosc - uzyteczny idiota Rosji. Jak kazdy uzyteczny idiota - jest nim z powodow politycznych lub psychologicznych.
> Pierwsze odpada - bo Zwolan jest za glupi na polityka, przy nim to nawet Trump wyglada na "b. stabilnego geniusza",
> co pozostawia tylko druga mozliwosc - psychologiczny motyw. Te mozliwosci przeanalizowalem juz w rownoleglym watku
> wiec tylko przypomne:
>
> "Tak wiec, fakt ze Zwolan powtarza propagande Putina i wybiela ludobojcow - wskazuje na duzo glebsze pekniecie etyczne:
> -albo chce dostowac rzeczywistosc do swoich absurdalnych teorii etnicznych/rasowych (o zlych Germanach kontrolujacych Zachod;
> wczesniej tropil jakichs wynalezionych przez siebie "MuZydow")
>
> - albo probuje dowartosciowac swoje ego - no bo jesli wszyscy inni, z wyjatkiem boukuna, andala, Filipa i Wielobyta, dali sie oszukac
> ukrainskiej/ "germanskiej" propagandzie - A ON NIE - to znaczy, ze nie jest tak zle, ze on jednak madrzejszy od wiekszosci, a skoro tak -
> to jego zycie, starzejacego sie cross-dressera ("Subi-girl" ...;-)) , nie jest az tak zalosne.
>
> Piotr

Dear Cameo (Subi-Girl),

Please accept my apologies for Piotr Trela's
behavior - mistaken identity case. He is a
nuisance on the forum. Every newsgroup has
one of those. Soc.culture.polish is no exception.

To correct the identity error I am posting a link
to "alt.autos.subaru" listing some of our past
discussions. I hope you don't mind, Cameo.

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.autos.subaru/search?q="Cameo"%20"Basia"

Piotr Trela is a professor at Memorial University,
Canada, and is a nutcase. Please ignore him in
the future, as he is unlikely to change his behavior
or give any apologies.

https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C5603AQHGJLrLAhIZ7A/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/0/1516935141323?e=1652313600&v=beta&t=z4WXnb4HLozbKcr9_Xt10vEkVWyEdwLvOgcerudsvZM

https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1389770

---------
Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:47:37 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:28:33 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:16:03 PM UTC-2:30, cyrylme...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Basia sieje te informacje z jakas trudna do wytlumaczenia pasja.
> >
> > Nie jest to chyba az takie trudne. Zwolan jest zbyt glupi by byl wynajetym przez Rosje platnym trollem - a wiec pozostaje tylko druga
> > mozliwosc - uzyteczny idiota Rosji. Jak kazdy uzyteczny idiota - jest nim z powodow politycznych lub psychologicznych.
> > Pierwsze odpada - bo Zwolan jest za glupi na polityka, przy nim to nawet Trump wyglada na "b. stabilnego geniusza",
> > co pozostawia tylko druga mozliwosc - psychologiczny motyw. Te mozliwosci przeanalizowalem juz w rownoleglym watku
> > wiec tylko przypomne:
> >
> > "Tak wiec, fakt ze Zwolan powtarza propagande Putina i wybiela ludobojcow - wskazuje na duzo glebsze pekniecie etyczne:
> > -albo chce dostowac rzeczywistosc do swoich absurdalnych teorii etnicznych/rasowych (o zlych Germanach kontrolujacych Zachod;
> > wczesniej tropil jakichs wynalezionych przez siebie "MuZydow")
> >
> > - albo probuje dowartosciowac swoje ego - no bo jesli wszyscy inni, z wyjatkiem boukuna, andala, Filipa i Wielobyta, dali sie oszukac
> > ukrainskiej/ "germanskiej" propagandzie - A ON NIE - to znaczy, ze nie jest tak zle, ze on jednak madrzejszy od wiekszosci, a skoro tak -
> > to jego zycie, starzejacego sie cross-dressera ("Subi-girl" ...;-)) , nie jest az tak zalosne.
> >
> > Piotr
> Dear Cameo (Subi-Girl),
>
> Please accept my apologies for Piotr Trela's
> behavior - mistaken identity case. He is a
> nuisance on the forum. Every newsgroup has
> one of those. Soc.culture.polish is no exception.
>
> To correct the identity error I am posting a link
> to "alt.autos.subaru" listing some of our past
> discussions. I hope you don't mind, Cameo.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.autos.subaru/search?q="Cameo"%20"Basia"

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.autos.subaru/search?q=Cameo%20Basia

Type Cameo + Basia in search box, a list of Subaru related discussions
will appear.

> Piotr Trela is a professor at Memorial University,
> Canada, and is a nutcase. Please ignore him in
> the future, as he is unlikely to change his behavior
> or give any apologies.
>
> https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C5603AQHGJLrLAhIZ7A/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/0/1516935141323?e=1652313600&v=beta&t=z4WXnb4HLozbKcr9_Xt10vEkVWyEdwLvOgcerudsvZM
>
> https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1389770
>
> ---------
> Basia (Ona/Jej)

On 4/7/2022 8:43 PM, Basia wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:28:33 AM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
>
>> Nie jest to chyba az takie trudne. Zwolan jest zbyt glupi by byl wynajetym przez Rosje platnym trollem - a wiec pozostaje tylko druga
>> mozliwosc - uzyteczny idiota Rosji. Jak kazdy uzyteczny idiota - jest nim z powodow politycznych lub psychologicznych.
>> Pierwsze odpada - bo Zwolan jest za glupi na polityka, przy nim to nawet Trump wyglada na "b. stabilnego geniusza",
>> co pozostawia tylko druga mozliwosc - psychologiczny motyw. Te mozliwosci przeanalizowalem juz w rownoleglym watku
>> wiec tylko przypomne:
>>
>> "Tak wiec, fakt ze Zwolan powtarza propagande Putina i wybiela ludobojcow - wskazuje na duzo glebsze pekniecie etyczne:
>> -albo chce dostowac rzeczywistosc do swoich absurdalnych teorii etnicznych/rasowych (o zlych Germanach kontrolujacych Zachod;
>> wczesniej tropil jakichs wynalezionych przez siebie "MuZydow")
>>
>> - albo probuje dowartosciowac swoje ego - no bo jesli wszyscy inni, z wyjatkiem boukuna, andala, Filipa i Wielobyta, dali sie oszukac
>> ukrainskiej/ "germanskiej" propagandzie - A ON NIE - to znaczy, ze nie jest tak zle, ze on jednak madrzejszy od wiekszosci, a skoro tak -
>> to jego zycie, starzejacego sie cross-dressera ("Subi-girl" ...;-)) , nie jest az tak zalosne.
>>
>> Piotr
>
> Dear Cameo,
>
> Please accept my apologies for Piotr Trela's
> behavior -mistaken identity case. He is a nuisance
> on the forum. Every newsgroup has one.
> Soc.culture.polish is no exception.
>
> To correct the identity error I am posting a link
> to "alt.autos.subaru" listing some of our past
> discussions. I hope you don't mind, Cameo.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.autos.subaru/search?q="Cameo"%20"Basia"
>
> Piotr Trela is a professor at Memorial University,
> Canada, and is a nutcase. Please ignore him in
> the future, as he is unlikely to change his behavior
> or give any apologies.
>
> https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C5603AQHGJLrLAhIZ7A/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/0/1516935141323?e=1652313600&v=beta&t=z4WXnb4HLozbKcr9_Xt10vEkVWyEdwLvOgcerudsvZM
>
> https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1389770
>
> ---------
> Basia (Ona/Jej)

Nie ma problemu, Basia. Takich facetów można znależć w każdej grupie,
także węgierskiej.
Ale dziękuję za informację.

Cameo (On/Jego)

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 6:23:13 PM UTC-2:30, Cameo wrote:

> Nie ma problemu, Basia. Takich facetów można znależć w każdej grupie, także węgierskiej.

Do you have there Putin-lovers like your "Basia" who fall for every lie from the Kremlin (see the title of this thred)
and who seeing the Russian murdering civilians in Ukraine - blames .... the victims?

> Ale dziękuję za informację.
> Cameo (On/Jego)
As an old Polish saying goes: "Believe your Basia (She/Her) and you ...may be surprised."
Ever seen "The crying game" ? ;-)

As for the quality of the information you are being offered - your Basia is the same guy who, among others,
ripped into .... some random 7-yr old child from a school trip photo, calling him "a Communist scrub" who smiles
"perhaps because [as a future ruler of Communist Poland] he is spared the molestation [inflicted on the other kids on his class]
or perhaps because he likes to be molested".

Here is your "Basia" in (He/His) own words:

"Dzieci wygladaja najwyrazniej na molestowane. Jedno, trans-dzender wygladajace wydaje sie w jakis sposob wyrazac
opozycje wobec tego co sie tam dzieje, inne jako jedyne sie usmiecha. Moze nie jest molestowane, moze lubi byc molestowane."
Basia

and continues, claiming an insight as a woman:

"Pan spojrzy na to zdjecie raz jeszcze panie Karts. Wiem ze trudno bedzie panu zrobic to kobiecym okiem ale prosze sprobowac, moze dac zonie, corce, do obejrzenia i spytac co sadzi. [...] wypierdek komunistyczny sie usmiecha- wychowywany pewnie w przeswiadczeniu o swojej pre-destynacji do rzadzenia w Polsce."
Basia
https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/AuXPKMaCK40/m/VMDSaPfmCAAJ

He is also the same guy who "proved" I was a Communist secret police spy, because ... I worked at the Department of Remote Sensing of the Sea
and from the department he deduced that we were using marine remote sensing equipment (an AVHRR receiver for satellite data on sea surface temperature), to ... listen on the local phone calls by the members of the antiCommunist opposition...

So before you thank "Basia" for his information on other people, I would check what your "Basia" writes to the people he is NOT
trying to sweet-talk...

===Piotr

On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 15:45:38 -0700 (PDT), Piotr wrote:

> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 6:23:13 PM UTC-2:30, Cameo wrote:
>
>> Nie ma problemu, Basia. Takich facetów można znależć w każdej grupie,
>> także węgierskiej.
>
> Do you have there Putin-lovers like your "Basia" who fall for every lie
> from the Kremlin (see the title of this thred)
> and who seeing the Russian murdering civilians in Ukraine - blames
> .... the victims?
>
>> Ale dziękuję za informację.
>> Cameo (On/Jego)
>
> As an old Polish saying goes: "Believe your Basia (She/Her) and you
> ...may be surprised."
> Ever seen "The crying game" ? ;-)
>
> As for the quality of the information you are being offered - your
> Basia is the same guy who, among others,
> ripped into .... some random 7-yr old child from a school trip photo,
> calling him "a Communist scrub" who smiles
>
> "perhaps because [as a future ruler of Communist Poland] he is spared
> the molestation [inflicted on the other kids on his class]
> or perhaps because he likes to be molested".
>
> Here is your "Basia" in (He/His) own words:
>
> "Dzieci wygladaja najwyrazniej na molestowane. Jedno, trans-dzender
> wygladajace wydaje sie w jakis sposob wyrazac opozycje wobec tego co sie
> tam dzieje, inne jako jedyne sie usmiecha. Moze nie jest molestowane,
> moze lubi byc molestowane."
>
Basia
>
> and continues, claiming an insight as a woman:
>
> "Pan spojrzy na to zdjecie raz jeszcze panie Karts. Wiem ze trudno
> bedzie panu zrobic to kobiecym okiem ale prosze sprobowac, moze dac
> zonie, corce, do obejrzenia i spytac co sadzi. [...] wypierdek
> komunistyczny sie usmiecha- wychowywany pewnie w przeswiadczeniu o
> swojej pre-destynacji do rzadzenia w Polsce."
> Basia
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/AuXPKMaCK40/m/
VMDSaPfmCAAJ
>
> He is also the same guy who "proved" I was a Communist secret police
> spy, because ... I worked at the Department of Remote Sensing of the
> Sea and from the department he deduced that we were using marine remote
> sensing equipment (an AVHRR receiver for satellite data on sea surface
> temperature), to ... listen on the local phone calls by the members of
> the antiCommunist opposition...
>
> So before you thank "Basia" for his information on other people, I would
> check what your "Basia" writes to the people he is NOT trying to
> sweet-talk...
>
> ====
> Piotr

mr.Trela, please, do take your crap somewhere else

every Pole knows you are sent to Canada with commies mission and to spy
on Polish patriots

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:00:00 PM UTC-2:30, andal wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 15:45:38 -0700 (PDT), Piotr wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 6:23:13 PM UTC-2:30, Cameo wrote:
> >
> >> Nie ma problemu, Basia. Takich facetów można znależć w każdej grupie,
> >> także węgierskiej.
> >
> > Do you have there Putin-lovers like your "Basia" who fall for every lie
> > from the Kremlin (see the title of this thred)
> > and who seeing the Russian murdering civilians in Ukraine - blames
> > .... the victims?
> >
> >> Ale dziękuję za informację.
> >> Cameo (On/Jego)
> >
> > As an old Polish saying goes: "Believe your Basia (She/Her) and you
> > ...may be surprised."
> > Ever seen "The crying game" ? ;-)
> >
> > As for the quality of the information you are being offered - your
> > Basia is the same guy who, among others,
> > ripped into .... some random 7-yr old child from a school trip photo,
> > calling him "a Communist scrub" who smiles
> >
> > "perhaps because [as a future ruler of Communist Poland] he is spared
> > the molestation [inflicted on the other kids on his class]
> > or perhaps because he likes to be molested".
> >
> > Here is your "Basia" in (He/His) own words:
> >
> > "Dzieci wygladaja najwyrazniej na molestowane. Jedno, trans-dzender
> > wygladajace wydaje sie w jakis sposob wyrazac opozycje wobec tego co sie
> > tam dzieje, inne jako jedyne sie usmiecha. Moze nie jest molestowane,
> > moze lubi byc molestowane."
> >
> Basia
> >
> > and continues, claiming an insight as a woman:
> >
> > "Pan spojrzy na to zdjecie raz jeszcze panie Karts. Wiem ze trudno
> > bedzie panu zrobic to kobiecym okiem ale prosze sprobowac, moze dac
> > zonie, corce, do obejrzenia i spytac co sadzi. [...] wypierdek
> > komunistyczny sie usmiecha- wychowywany pewnie w przeswiadczeniu o
> > swojej pre-destynacji do rzadzenia w Polsce."
> > Basia
> > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/AuXPKMaCK40/m/
> VMDSaPfmCAAJ
> >
> > He is also the same guy who "proved" I was a Communist secret police
> > spy, because ... I worked at the Department of Remote Sensing of the
> > Sea and from the department he deduced that we were using marine remote
> > sensing equipment (an AVHRR receiver for satellite data on sea surface
> > temperature), to ... listen on the local phone calls by the members of
> > the antiCommunist opposition...
> >
> > So before you thank "Basia" for his information on other people, I would
> > check what your "Basia" writes to the people he is NOT trying to
> > sweet-talk...
> >
> > ====
> > Piotr
> mr.Trela, please, do take your crap somewhere else
>
> every Pole knows you are sent to Canada with commies mission and to spy
> on Polish patriots

You mean like Mr. Andrew da Lancia - who was recognized on scp by Wieslaw Kochanski,
as the same person who worked with Mr. Kochanski in Teatr Wielki in Warsaw, and was there
a member of ORMO, Voluntary Reserve of the [Communist Police], known at the time
for attacking the antiCommunist protesters and Jews?

The same Andrew da Lancia who despite Polish borders being closed. got from the Communist authorities
a passport allowing him to leave Poland for the West, in 1981, i.e. precisely at the time when the secret police
in Poland was intensely recruiting people to infiltrate pro-Solidarity groups in the West - to weaken Western response
to the banning of Solidarity and imposition of the martial law they were planning in the next few months?

The same Andrew da Lancia - who ever since the Communism in Poland collapsed in 1989, and with it,
the Communist funding for the foreign operatives, had to earn his keep by "washing dishes and
cleaning toilets". Other people emigrated to the West to earn university degrees, to get well paying jobs,
to advance professionally. Why did _you_ come to Canada, Mr. da Lancia - to "wash dishes and clean toilets"
for the rest of your life?

The same Andrew da Lancia - who thinks that he would discredit the prime minister of the country that
accepted him from a political refugee camp - by calling him "jewstin", and who responds to his Jewish adversaries -
with neoNazi "jokes" about murdering Jews in Auschwitz? Did you learn those jokes while preparing with your fellow
ORMO-man to break up, with bats and pipes, "Zionist" protests against the Party?