>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>> | Carroll

> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal

Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.

--bks

Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>> | Carroll
>
>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>
> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.

That's already decided. The trial is decide who much Fatso pays.

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On 1/16/2024 6:18 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>> | Carroll
>
>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>
> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.

No, that is already established. The trial beginning today is to determine the
damages.

Trump damages trial begins in E. Jean Carroll defamation case with former
president in attendance

The former president has already been found liable for defaming Carroll while
he was in the White House over her sexual abuse claims.

Jan. 16, 2024, 3:00 AM PST | Updated Jan. 16, 2024, 6:31 AM PST
By Adam Reiss and Dareh Gregorian

Former President Donald Trump is attending his defamation damages trial in
New York on Tuesday, a move that could bring him face to face with E. Jean
Carroll, the writer he has been found civilly responsible for sexually
abusing in the 1990s and whom he has repeatedly mocked and ridiculed since
she first came forward four years ago.

In a post to his Truth Social website on Tuesday, Trump said he would be
attending the lower Manhattan trial. He attacked the case as a "giant
election interference scam" and said, "I had no idea who this woman was."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-damages-trial-begins-e-jean-carroll-defamation-case-former-presi-rcna133677

It is already proved that Trump is lying in saying he had "no idea" who Carroll is.

On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>> | Carroll
>
>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>
> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>
> --bks

So where is his conviction of rape?
Why hasn't Trump been required to register as a sex offender?
Be careful with your reply.

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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>> | Carroll
>>
>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>
>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>
>So where is his conviction of rape?
> ...

| ...
| A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
| distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
| what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
| understood.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>

--bks

On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>> | Carroll
>>>
>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>
>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>
>>So where is his conviction of rape?
>> ...
>
> | ...
> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
> | understood.
> | ...
><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>
> --bks

That is not a conviction.
You need to understand the difference between conviction and liability.

Try again.
And this time don't snip the content and links.
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/05/16/no-trump-is-not-required-to-register-as-a-
sex-offender-fact-check/70217795007/>
In particular:

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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>>> | Carroll
>>>>
>>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>>
>>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>>
>>>So where is his conviction of rape?
>>> ...
>>
>> | ...
>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>> | understood.
>> | ...
>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>
>That is not a conviction.
> ...

What part of "what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape"
do you not understand?

--bks

On 1/16/2024 8:01 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>> | Carroll
>>>
>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>
>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>
>> So where is his conviction of rape?
>> ...
>
> | ...
> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
> | understood.
> | ...
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>

Exactly right, but still not a criminal conviction. He was found to be civilly
liable for it. In the public eye, it will be seen as guilt, but legally it isn't.

On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>>>> | Carroll
>>>>>
>>>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>>>
>>>>So where is his conviction of rape?
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> | ...
>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>> | understood.
>>> | ...
>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>>
>>That is not a conviction.
>> ...
>
> What part of "what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape"
> do you not understand?
>
> --bks
The part where you are lying.
Trump was NOT found guilty of rape by the jury.

'Former President Donald Trump is not required to register as a sex offender as a result of being
found liable in a civil trial, according to legal experts. Only people convicted of a sex offense,
such as rape or incest, in a criminal case must register as a sex offender under New York state
law.'

Here is another source:

<https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>

"Donald Trump's reputation took a hit this week after a New York civil trial jury found in favor of
journalist E. Jean Carroll's claims that he battered and defamed her during the 1990s.

On Tuesday, the Manhattan jury of nine men and three women found the former president liable for
sexually abusing and defaming Carroll and awarded Carroll $5 million in damages.

However, the lawsuit's conclusion appears to have led some to believe that Trump has been convicted
of rape and used that understanding to attack him on social media. "

""Among the [Article] 130 claims are rape, sexual abuse and forcible touching," he said. "Therefore,
in order for Ms. Carroll to prevail on the statute of limitations, she needed to prove [by a
preponderance of the evidence] that she was the victim of rape or sexual abuse or forcible touching.

"Any one of the three would have sufficed. The jury found two of the three applied, but not rape.""
"While Trump was not found liable for rape, Tidmarsh said he attached "limited significance to the
jury's decision not to find that rape occurred."

"The civil claim is for battery, not rape," he added. "The jury found that Donald Trump battered E.
Jean Carroll. And Ms. Carroll was able to fit within the new statute of limitation even without
proving rape."

So, we can establish that Trump was not found "guilty" of rape as he was not criminally charged, nor
was he found liable for rape. Further, the civil claim was on a battery tort but brought forward
using an extension of the statute of limitations for crimes including rape."

You are allowing your extreme case of TDS cloud your judgement.
You need mental help.
Please seek it out.
<https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>

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On 2024-01-16, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 8:01 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>>> | Carroll
>>>>
>>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>>
>>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>>
>>> So where is his conviction of rape?
>>> ...
>>
>> | ...
>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>> | understood.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>
> Exactly right, but still not a criminal conviction. He was found to be civilly
> liable for it. In the public eye, it will be seen as guilt, but legally it isn't.
>
He was NOT found libel for rape either.
There were 3 charges.

<https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>

Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.

He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.

If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
evidential standards would be higher.

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On 1/16/2024 10:25 AM, "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi lying little person, lied:

> On 2024-01-16, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 8:01 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi lying little person, lied:
>>>> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>>>> | Carroll
>>>>>
>>>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>>>
>>>> So where is his conviction of rape?
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> | ...
>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>> | understood.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>>
>> Exactly right, but still not a criminal conviction. He was found to be civilly
>> liable for it. In the public eye, it will be seen as guilt, but legally it isn't.
>>
> He was NOT found libel [sic] for rape either.

*liable*, you ignorant Nazi lying little person, not "libel."

He *was* found liable for sexual assault, and the judge said that, as "rape" is
commonly understood, the assault amounted to rape. The *crime* of rape in New
York is restricted to penetration only by a penis, not a finger or other object,
but as people commonly understand the word "rape," Trump raped her. In most
other states, Trump would have been found liable — not "libel", you fucking
idiot — for rape.

Trump raped Carroll. This is settled, you fucking Nazi lying little person.

On 1/16/2024 10:23 AM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>>>>> | Carroll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>>>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>>>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>>>>
>>>>> So where is his conviction of rape?
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> | ...
>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>>> | understood.
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>>>
>>> That is not a conviction.
>>> ...
>>
>> What part of "what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape"
>> do you not understand?
>>
>> --bks
> The part where you are lying.

He's not lying.

> Trump was NOT found guilty of rape by the jury.

Trump *was* found liable for sexual assault by the jury. The judge declared that
the nature of the assault is "rape" as rape is commonly understood, except that
under New York law, unless it can be shown that Trump actually put his shriveled
little mushroom prick inside her, it can't be called "rape." But it was rape,
and Trump was held liable for it.

pothead wrote:
> On 2024-01-16, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 8:01 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>>>> | Carroll
>>>>>
>>>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>>>
>>>> So where is his conviction of rape?
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> | ...
>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>> | understood.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>>
>> Exactly right, but still not a criminal conviction. He was found to be civilly
>> liable for it. In the public eye, it will be seen as guilt, but legally it isn't.
>>
> He was NOT found libel for rape either.
> There were 3 charges.
>
> <https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>
>
> Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
> provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.
>
> He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.
>
> If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
> conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
> raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
> evidential standards would be higher.
>
>

And you make a distinction without a real world difference. I
don't know why. Don Fatso advertises his sexual perversions
because the Satanic Right admires them.

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On 1/16/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>> | Carroll
>>
>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>
>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>
>> --bks
>
> So where is his conviction of rape?
> Why hasn't Trump been required to register as a sex offender?
> Be careful with your reply.

She's just on the hunt for $$$ ... both from Trump,
because she doesn't like him, and likely from the
DNC head-hunters too - the same ones responsible
for all the Kavanaugh accusations (which mysteriously
disappeared once they failed to serve their purpose).

Politics has always been dirty ... even in the USA.
However we generally haven't seen smear campaigns
like these since the latter 19th century.

Perhaps one significant step down from the 19th
century is that 'accusations' now turn into actual
court cases - the power and mechanism of the State
behind the merry tricksters.

Most or all of everything they've thrown at Trump
WILL disappear. However winning isn't the goal,
*disruption* is the goal.

More effort is needed to Follow The Money here.
Who is funding these court cases ? Lawyers cost
money. Accusers need money for the usual stuff
while they're accusing.

This trend in smear campaigns needs to end - and
not just for Trump but for ALL future candidates
for higher office. It wastes our time, it wastes
our money, it corrupts the system. Taken any
further and such attacks can be a terrible danger
to 'democracy'. If no regular people can dare run
for office, WHO winds up In Charge ? WHAT is their
claim to "legitimacy" ?

(btw ... this crap is one good reason for Haley as
the Candidate. Much harder to find whiny males who
will claim she 'took advantage' of them. That will
not 'resonate' :-)

Oh, who are Newsom's ex-girlfriends ? See if one or
two want to make some accusations ... throw some
shit back in the Dem's faces ...... that's how to
politikk.

>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>> | Carroll
>
>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>
>Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>
> --bks
>
>

Most Bible Belt Evangelical Republicans hold Trump up as an example and want
their children to grow up just like him.

> She's just on the hunt for $$$ ... both from Trump,
> because she doesn't like him, and likely from the
> DNC head-hunters too - the same ones responsible
> for all the Kavanaugh accusations (which mysteriously
> disappeared once they failed to serve their purpose).
>

So what you're saying is that Trump did the right thing by raping her.

Why would she go after his supposed money when he has none?

Don't worry. He's going to prison where rapists are beaten and raped
themselves. The secret service will look the other way.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 15:47:08 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>> | Carroll
>>
>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>
>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>
>> --bks
>
>So where is his conviction of rape?
>Why hasn't Trump been required to register as a sex offender?
>Be careful with your reply.

When did OJ go to prison for murdering his ex-wife?

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:17:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>On 2024-01-16, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> | Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean
>>>>>> | Carroll
>>>>
>>>>> | Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is
>>>>> | 'substantially true' in court dismissal
>>>>
>>>> Trump's 2nd defamation trial begins today. That he raped
>>>> Ms. Carroll is no longer in question. Today's trial is about
>>>> whether he continued to defame the woman he raped.
>>>
>>>So where is his conviction of rape?
>>> ...
>>
>> | ...
>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>> | understood.
>> | ...
>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/>
>>
>> --bks
>
>That is not a conviction.
>You need to understand the difference between conviction and liability.

Trump was not convicted of a crime in criminal court.

He was adjudicated liable in a civil action.

Remember OJ.

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 18:25:47 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>He was NOT found libel for rape either.
>There were 3 charges.
>
><https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>
>
>Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
>provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.
>
>He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.
>
>If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
>conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
>raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
>evidential standards would be higher.

Interesting that you guys impeached Bill Clinton for a consensual act but can't excuse
Trump fast enough for a sexual assault.

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On 2024-01-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 18:25:47 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>He was NOT found libel for rape either.
>>There were 3 charges.
>>
>><https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>
>>
>>Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
>>provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.
>>
>>He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.
>>
>>If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
>>conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
>>raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
>>evidential standards would be higher.
>
> Interesting that you guys impeached Bill Clinton for a consensual act but can't excuse
> Trump fast enough for a sexual assault.
>
> Swill
> NP: Peter Wohlert - Bach Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 in F major, BWV 1046 - Adagio

Speaking for myself I'm not excusing Trump at all. I'm simply saying he was not found libel/guilty
of rape no matter what the judge says.
As for Clinton, I thought it was hilarious.
He wasn't doing anything that most presidents and powerful men do. He just got caught.

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On 1/17/2024 11:11 AM, "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:

> On 2024-01-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 18:25:47 -0000 (UTC), "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>>
>>> He was NOT found libel for rape either.
>>> There were 3 charges.
>>>
>>> <https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>
>>>
>>> Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
>>> provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.
>>>
>>> He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.
>>>
>>> If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
>>> conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
>>> raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
>>> evidential standards would be higher.
>>
>> Interesting that you guys impeached Bill Clinton for a consensual act but can't excuse
>> Trump fast enough for a sexual assault.
>>
>> Swill
>> NP: Peter Wohlert - Bach Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 in F major, BWV 1046 - Adagio
>
> Speaking for myself I'm not excusing Trump at all. I'm simply saying he was not found libel [sic]/guilty
> of rape no matter what the judge says.

It's *liable*, you stupid shitstain, not "libel."

And he *was* found liable for it, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little
person.

On 2024-01-17, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
> On 1/17/2024 11:11 AM, "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>
>> On 2024-01-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 18:25:47 -0000 (UTC), "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>>>
>>>> He was NOT found libel for rape either.
>>>> There were 3 charges.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>
>>>>
>>>> Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
>>>> provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.
>>>>
>>>> He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.
>>>>
>>>> If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
>>>> conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
>>>> raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
>>>> evidential standards would be higher.
>>>
>>> Interesting that you guys impeached Bill Clinton for a consensual act but can't excuse
>>> Trump fast enough for a sexual assault.
>>>
>>> Swill
>>> NP: Peter Wohlert - Bach Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 in F major, BWV 1046 - Adagio
>>
>> Speaking for myself I'm not excusing Trump at all. I'm simply saying he was not found libel [sic]/guilty
>> of rape no matter what the judge says.
>
> It's *liable*, you stupid shitstain, not "libel."

So you keep saying.
If that's all you have Rudy, that's piss poor.

> And he *was* found liable for it, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little
> person.

Wrong.
He was not found liable of rape.
He was found liable of sexual abuse.

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On 1/17/2024 1:44 PM, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little person, lied:

> On 2024-01-17, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
>> On 1/17/2024 11:11 AM, "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>>
>>> On 2024-01-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 18:25:47 -0000 (UTC), "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> He was NOT found libel for rape either.
>>>>> There were 3 charges.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
>>>>> provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
>>>>> conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
>>>>> raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
>>>>> evidential standards would be higher.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that you guys impeached Bill Clinton for a consensual act but can't excuse
>>>> Trump fast enough for a sexual assault.
>>>>
>>>> Swill
>>>> NP: Peter Wohlert - Bach Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 in F major, BWV 1046 - Adagio
>>>
>>> Speaking for myself I'm not excusing Trump at all. I'm simply saying he was not found libel [sic]/guilty
>>> of rape no matter what the judge says.
>>
>> It's *liable*, you stupid shitstain, not "libel."
>
> So you keep saying.

Because you keep using the wrong fucking word, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar
and little person.

>
>> And he *was* found liable for it, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little
>> person.
>
> Wrong.

No, *right*, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little person.

> He was not found liable of rape.
> He was found liable of sexual abuse.

Sexual assault, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little person — and the
judge said it was rape as everyone understands the word.

On 2024-01-17, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
> On 1/17/2024 1:44 PM, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>
>> On 2024-01-17, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2024 11:11 AM, "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-01-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 18:25:47 -0000 (UTC), "pothole"/"Sakran", Nazi liar and little person, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He was NOT found libel for rape either.
>>>>>> There were 3 charges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence
>>>>>> provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other
>>>>>> conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he
>>>>>> raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the
>>>>>> evidential standards would be higher.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting that you guys impeached Bill Clinton for a consensual act but can't excuse
>>>>> Trump fast enough for a sexual assault.
>>>>>
>>>>> Swill
>>>>> NP: Peter Wohlert - Bach Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 in F major, BWV 1046 - Adagio
>>>>
>>>> Speaking for myself I'm not excusing Trump at all. I'm simply saying he was not found libel [sic]/guilty
>>>> of rape no matter what the judge says.
>>>
>>> It's *liable*, you stupid shitstain, not "libel."
>>
>> So you keep saying.
>
> Because you keep using the wrong fucking word, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar
> and little person.
>
>>
>>> And he *was* found liable for it, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little
>>> person.
>>
>> Wrong.
>
> No, *right*, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little person.
>
>> He was not found liable of rape.
>> He was found liable of sexual abuse.
>
> Sexual assault, "pothole"/"Sakran", you Nazi liar and little person — and the
> judge said it was rape as everyone understands the word.
>
What the judge says means zero regarding what Trump was convicted of.
Unless of course it is a judge trial vs a jury trial which this one was not.

You must be a massive idiot rudy.
And BTW why do feel the need to use multiple nyms to post with?
Do you have some kind of short guy phobia?
Don't be mad or disappointed as midgets can get great jobs.
They are often hired as sewer workers because they can fit easily underground where the pipes are.
Maybe you can become a skin diver for Rotor Router?

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Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 19:11:02 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>Speaking for myself I'm not excusing Trump at all. I'm simply saying he was not found libel/guilty
>of rape no matter what the judge says.

First of all, it's "liable" not "libel". I only point that out because you've misused
"libel" repeatedly.

>As for Clinton, I thought it was hilarious.

Grinning rolleyes, here.

>He wasn't doing anything that most presidents and powerful men do. He just got caught.

FDR had an affair for decades.

In the White House.

Eleanor knew about it.

As for Clinton getting caught, the GOP has been bent for over thirty years on finding
something to convict a Clinton on. Then they accidentally found out about this blue dress
.. . .

Swill
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