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 by: NoBody - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:14 UTC

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 16:17:25 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>> |
>>> | Trump Org. fined $1.6 million after conviction for 17
>>> | felonies, including tax fraud
>>> | ...
>>><https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/politics/trump-org-sentencing/index.html>
>>
>>Typical dishonest crap from you.
>> ...
>
>It's pure fact. Even *Fox News* covered it:
> |
> | Former President Donald Trump's company was fined $1.6
> | million Friday for a scheme in which top executives dodged
> | personal income taxes on lavish job perks ...
> |
><https://www.fox5ny.com/news/trump-organization-fine-tax-fraud>
>
> --bks

And the dishonest pivot from the orignal subject continues.

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 by: NoBody - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:15 UTC

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 16:15:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>> |
>>> | Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>> | Stefanik: No of course not
>>> | Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>> | Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>> | Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>> | abused E. Jean Carroll
>>> |
>>> | [75-second video at URL]
>>
>>Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>>basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>> ...
>
>That sentence is the most illogical you have written since earlier
>today. It makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe it reads better in
>the original Russian?
>
> --bks

The fact that you don't understand it means you'd better translate to
Russian so that you do.

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 by: NoBody - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:16 UTC

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 03:49:04 -0500, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 09:14:55 -0800, Wayne Autrey <another.loser@terrells.pals> wrote:
>
>>No, you fucking idiot. He said it *after* the jury had found Trump liable (or
>>"libel", as your idiot fellow Nazi "pothole" keeps putting it).
>
>And another asshole bites the dust.
>
>*click*

It's just another Rudely so no loss there.
Interesting Swilly hasn't figured out that *he himself* is the one
that should be dusted.

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 by: NoBody - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:17 UTC

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:23:07 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:53:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>> >>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>> >>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>> >>>>> | understood.
>> >
>> > Nobody dumber than a trump-fluffing Republican:
>> > >
>> > > Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>> > > Stefanik: No of course not
>> > > Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>> > > Stefanik: The media is so biased
>> > > Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>> > > abused E. Jean Carroll
>> > >
>> > > [75-second video at URL]
>> > >
>> > <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748508622173470943>
>> >
>> > --bks
>>
>> Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>> basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>
>
> What "misstated facts"?
>
> The jury DID find Trump
>liable for sexual assault.

This is not rape. To continue to claim so is a continued lie.
Oh and there's been no legal charges and trial.

>
> And you blame "media bias"
>for reporting that fact?

Reporting as rape is bias in action.

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 by: NoBody - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:18 UTC

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 18:48:40 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> You didn't answer my question.
>
>You're too stupid are quoting a judge. If you had half the
>intelligence of an epileptic mite, you could find the judge's
>statement. Then referencing that, you could explain how the judge
>was wrong. Instead you peevishly demand answers that you have
>already been given multiple times. That's your crimestop in action.

Please summarize your drunken babbling into something that makes
sense.

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 by: J Carlson - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:25 UTC

On 1/21/2024 8:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:23:07 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> NoBody wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:53:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>>>>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>>>>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>>>>>>> | understood.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody dumber than a trump-fluffing Republican:
>>>>> Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>>> Stefanik: No of course not
>>>>> Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>>> Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>>> Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>>> abused E. Jean Carroll
>>>>> [75-second video at URL]
>>>>>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748508622173470943>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>
>>> Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>>> basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>>
>>
>> What "misstated facts"?
>>
>> The jury DID find Trump
>> liable for sexual assault.
>
> This is not rape.

The judge said that it *is* rape as the word is commonly understood by everyone.
New York criminal code defines criminal rape as unlawful penetration of the
vagina by a penis. Ordinary people understand that if you unlawfully insert a
finger or a broomstick into a vagina, that's rape.

Trump raped Carroll.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 21:28 UTC

>>>> | Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>> | Stefanik: No of course not
>>>> | Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>> | Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>> | Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>> | abused E. Jean Carroll

| ...
| Trump has claimed he intends to testify in the case on
| Monday -- which would probably produce a dramatic courtroom
| showdown. But it's unclear whether Trump will really show
| up. For one thing, he has made similar claims in the past
| and then not appeared.
| ...
| If he does testify, legal experts said, his time on the
| witness stand could be something akin to a suicide mission.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/21/trump-carroll-judge-kaplan-witness/>

--bks

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 by: Governor Swill - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:30 UTC

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 12:25:07 -0800, J Carlson <j_carlson@remax.con> wrote:

>On 1/21/2024 8:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:23:07 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:53:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>>>>>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>>>>>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>>>>>>>> | understood.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody dumber than a trump-fluffing Republican:
>>>>>> Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>>>> Stefanik: No of course not
>>>>>> Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>>>> Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>>>> Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>>>> abused E. Jean Carroll
>>>>>> [75-second video at URL]
>>>>>>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748508622173470943>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>> Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>>>> basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>>>
>>>
>>> What "misstated facts"?
>>>
>>> The jury DID find Trump
>>> liable for sexual assault.
>>
>> This is not rape.
>
>The judge said that it *is* rape as the word is commonly understood by everyone.
>New York criminal code defines criminal rape as unlawful penetration of the
>vagina by a penis. Ordinary people understand that if you unlawfully insert a
>finger or a broomstick into a vagina, that's rape.
>
>Trump raped Carroll.
>

Bitch should have just sucked him off and got over it.

Swill
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 by: pothead - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:50 UTC

On 2024-01-21, J Carlson <j_carlson@remax.con> wrote:
> On 1/21/2024 8:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:23:07 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:53:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>>>>>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>>>>>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>>>>>>>> | understood.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody dumber than a trump-fluffing Republican:
>>>>>> Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>>>> Stefanik: No of course not
>>>>>> Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>>>> Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>>>> Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>>>> abused E. Jean Carroll
>>>>>> [75-second video at URL]
>>>>>>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748508622173470943>
>>>>>
>>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>> Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>>>> basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>>>
>>>
>>> What "misstated facts"?
>>>
>>> The jury DID find Trump
>>> liable for sexual assault.
>>
>> This is not rape.
>
> The judge said that it *is* rape as the word is commonly understood by everyone.
> New York criminal code defines criminal rape as unlawful penetration of the
> vagina by a penis. Ordinary people understand that if you unlawfully insert a
> finger or a broomstick into a vagina, that's rape.

> Trump raped Carroll.

The judge's comments were after the verdict where Trump was not liable for rape and thus legally
mean nothing other than a possible biased judge which ultimately can be raised upon appeal.
Have you ever visited Bergdorf Goodman?
I have and there is no way in hell one of the most recognizable people in NYC, if not the planet,
Trump, could shop in that store without being mobbed and stalked by the clerks who function as
personal shoppers. Not to mention other shopperslooking to speak with him.
The clerks would literally be fighting amongst themselves trying to assist Trump.
So we are to believe he was able to rape a woman?
Possible, but highly unlikely.
Back then, Trump was like a rock star in NYC.
This woman is a pathological liar and the more she speaks, the deeper the hole she digs for herself.

Oh and BTW, if I believed Trump did indeed rape her I would throw the book at him or anyone else
who would do such a heinous crime.
--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:50:42 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2024-01-21, J Carlson <j_carlson@remax.con> wrote:
>> On 1/21/2024 8:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:23:07 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:53:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>>>>>>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>>>>>>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>>>>>>>>> | understood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody dumber than a trump-fluffing Republican:
>>>>>>> Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>>>>> Stefanik: No of course not
>>>>>>> Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>>>>> Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>>>>> Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>>>>> abused E. Jean Carroll
>>>>>>> [75-second video at URL]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748508622173470943>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>>>>> basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What "misstated facts"?
>>>>
>>>> The jury DID find Trump
>>>> liable for sexual assault.
>>>
>>> This is not rape.
>>
>> The judge said that it *is* rape as the word is commonly understood by everyone.
>> New York criminal code defines criminal rape as unlawful penetration of the
>> vagina by a penis. Ordinary people understand that if you unlawfully insert a
>> finger or a broomstick into a vagina, that's rape.
>
>> Trump raped Carroll.
>
>The judge's comments were after the verdict where Trump was not liable for rape and thus legally
>mean nothing other than a possible biased judge which ultimately can be raised upon appeal.

A smart lawyer could create an argument that if a judge states
something so factually incorrect after the trial that his bias could
trigger an investigation to bias during the trial.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:14:53 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 16:17:25 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> |
>>>> | Trump Org. fined $1.6 million after conviction for 17
>>>> | felonies, including tax fraud
>>>> | ...
>>>><https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/politics/trump-org-sentencing/index.html>
>>>
>>>Typical dishonest crap from you.
>>> ...
>>
>>It's pure fact. Even *Fox News* covered it:
>> |
>> | Former President Donald Trump's company was fined $1.6
>> | million Friday for a scheme in which top executives dodged
>> | personal income taxes on lavish job perks ...
>> |
>><https://www.fox5ny.com/news/trump-organization-fine-tax-fraud>
>>
>> --bks
>
>And the dishonest pivot from the orignal subject continues.

Run away Bradley!

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:17:57 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:23:07 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>NoBody wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:53:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>> >>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>> >>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>> >>>>> | understood.
>>> >
>>> > Nobody dumber than a trump-fluffing Republican:
>>> > >
>>> > > Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>> > > Stefanik: No of course not
>>> > > Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>> > > Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>> > > Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>> > > abused E. Jean Carroll
>>> > >
>>> > > [75-second video at URL]
>>> > >
>>> > <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748508622173470943>
>>> >
>>> > --bks
>>>
>>> Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>>> basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>>
>>
>> What "misstated facts"?
>>
>> The jury DID find Trump
>>liable for sexual assault.
>
>This is not rape. To continue to claim so is a continued lie.
>Oh and there's been no legal charges and trial.
>
>>
>> And you blame "media bias"
>>for reporting that fact?
>
>Reporting as rape is bias in action.

And Lying Lee has fled.

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On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:50:42 -0000 (UTC), pothead
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>
>> On 2024-01-21, J Carlson <j_carlson@remax.con> wrote:
>>> On 1/21/2024 8:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:23:07 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:53:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> | A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal
>>>>>>>>>>> | distinction without a real-world difference. He says that
>>>>>>>>>>> | what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly
>>>>>>>>>>> | understood.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody dumber than a trump-fluffing Republican:
>>>>>>>> Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>>>>>> Stefanik: No of course not
>>>>>>>> Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>>>>>> Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>>>>>> Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>>>>>> abused E. Jean Carroll
>>>>>>>> [75-second video at URL]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748508622173470943>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that there are people like you who misrepresent facts on a daily
>>>>>> basis, I have little faith in the justice system.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What "misstated facts"?
>>>>>
>>>>> The jury DID find Trump
>>>>> liable for sexual assault.
>>>>
>>>> This is not rape.
>>>
>>> The judge said that it *is* rape as the word is commonly understood by everyone.
>>> New York criminal code defines criminal rape as unlawful penetration of the
>>> vagina by a penis. Ordinary people understand that if you unlawfully insert a
>>> finger or a broomstick into a vagina, that's rape.
>>
>>> Trump raped Carroll.
>>
>> The judge's comments were after the verdict where Trump was not liable for rape and thus legally
>> mean nothing other than a possible biased judge which ultimately can be raised upon appeal.
>
> A smart lawyer

You don't know anything about smart lawyers.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 00:19 UTC

|
| District Judge Lewis Kaplan has said it multiple times:
| Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll in 1996. Kaplan wrote it
| in May 2023, when he presided over one of the trials
| against Trump. And he reminded jurors of the rape this
| week, during the latest proceedings in the multi-layered,
| winding rape and defamation cases brought against Trump by
| Carroll.
| ...
<https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/a-federal-judge-has-gone-to-great-lengths-to-make-clear-trump-really-did-rape-e-jean-carroll/>

| ...
| Trump: I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on
| Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it.
|
| Unknown: Whoa.
| ...
| Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.
| ...
| Trump: Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html>

--bks

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 00:19:11 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> |
> | District Judge Lewis Kaplan has said it multiple times:
> | Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll in 1996. Kaplan wrote it
> | in May 2023, when he presided over one of the trials
> | against Trump. And he reminded jurors of the rape this
> | week, during the latest proceedings in the multi-layered,
> | winding rape and defamation cases brought against Trump by
> | Carroll.
> | ...
><https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/a-federal-judge-has-gone-to-great-lengths-to-make-clear-trump-really-did-rape-e-jean-carroll/>
>

You'll scream like a baby should the judge's biases be used as a basis
for appeal.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:54 UTC

>>>>> | Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>>> | Stefanik: No of course not
>>>>> | Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>>> | Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>>> | Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>>> | abused E. Jean Carroll

| ...
| At first Stefanik falls back on the stale MAGA talking
| point that the focus on Trump's sexual assault is a media
| witch hunt. But when reporter Vaughn Hillyard points out
| that a jury reached this conclusion, Stefanik was at first
| nonplussed, then got angry, and then repeated those talking
| points with a vehemence bordering on derangement.
|
| Notably, the Trump campaign barred that reporter from a
| subsequent campaign event. That plus Trump's recent
| unhinged barrage of attacks on Carroll suggest he's deeply
| worried about this story's political impact.
| ...
<https://newrepublic.com/article/178320/elise-stefanik-deranged-defense-trump-democrats-lesson>

--bks

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 by: Mike Colangelo - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 16:58 UTC

On 1/23/2024 5:54 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>>> | Reporter: Do believe E. Jean Carroll?
>>>>>> | Stefanik: No of course not
>>>>>> | Reporter: A jury found that Trump sexually abused her
>>>>>> | Stefanik: The media is so biased
>>>>>> | Reporter: It's not the media, it's a jury that found he
>>>>>> | abused E. Jean Carroll
>
> | ...
> | At first Stefanik falls back on the stale MAGA talking
> | point that the focus on Trump's sexual assault is a media
> | witch hunt. But when reporter Vaughn Hillyard points out
> | that a jury reached this conclusion, Stefanik was at first
> | nonplussed, then got angry, and then repeated those talking
> | points with a vehemence bordering on derangement.
> |
> | Notably, the Trump campaign barred that reporter from a
> | subsequent campaign event. That plus Trump's recent
> | unhinged barrage of attacks on Carroll suggest he's deeply
> | worried about this story's political impact.

What he's worried about is the negative impact of the jury likely awarding
Carroll damages reaching *nine* digits, i.e. hundreds of millions. Trump will
appeal it and, even if he loses the appeal, will never pay up, but an award of
nine digits will have a serious impact on public opinion...and it will hurt the
orange shitbag.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 16:34 UTC

Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote:
> ...
>What he's worried about is the negative impact of the jury likely awarding
>Carroll damages reaching *nine* digits, i.e. hundreds of millions. Trump will
>appeal it and, even if he loses the appeal, will never pay up, but an award of
>nine digits will have a serious impact on public opinion...and it will hurt the
>orange shitbag.

Damages trial continues today. Will Trump testify (he said he would)?
If so the cross examination will be epic. He might cry.

--bks

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Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote:
>> ...
>> What he's worried about is the negative impact of the jury likely awarding
>> Carroll damages reaching *nine* digits, i.e. hundreds of millions. Trump will
>> appeal it and, even if he loses the appeal, will never pay up, but an award of
>> nine digits will have a serious impact on public opinion...and it will hurt the
>> orange shitbag.
>
> Damages trial continues today. Will Trump testify (he said he would)?
> If so the cross examination will be epic. He might cry.
>
> --bks
>

Don Fatso continues to supply cause and evidence for trial 3.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 16:34:18 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote:
>> ...
>>What he's worried about is the negative impact of the jury likely awarding
>>Carroll damages reaching *nine* digits, i.e. hundreds of millions. Trump will
>>appeal it and, even if he loses the appeal, will never pay up, but an award of
>>nine digits will have a serious impact on public opinion...and it will hurt the
>>orange shitbag.
>
>Damages trial continues today. Will Trump testify (he said he would)?
>If so the cross examination will be epic. He might cry.
>
> --bks

He did and he did not cry...

"Former President Donald Trump took the stand in a New York courtroom
for roughly four minutes on Thursday to defend himself in the
defamation trial brought by the writer E. Jean Carroll, who alleges he
sexually assaulted her in a dressing room in the 1990s.

The former president, who denies Carroll's claims, was called to
testify by his own legal team. Judge Lewis Kaplan, who is overseeing
the trial and has already determined that Trump defamed Carroll,
severely restricted what he could tell the court.

Sitting stone-faced in the witness box, Trump testified that he stood
by his earlier deposition in the case, in which he denied having ever
met Carroll. He replied "no" when his attorney Alina Habba asked if he
had ever instructed anyone to hurt her."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-e-jean-carroll-trial-testimony/

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|
| Judge Threatens to Put Trump Lawyer Alina Habba 'in the
| Lockup' at E. Jean Carroll Trial
| ...
<https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-alina-habba-jail-e-jean-carroll-federal-judge-threat>

Trump stormed out of the courtroom holding back tears.

--bks

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On 1/26/2024 10:05 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> |
> | Judge Threatens to Put Trump Lawyer Alina Habba 'in the
> | Lockup' at E. Jean Carroll Trial
> | ...
> <https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-alina-habba-jail-e-jean-carroll-federal-judge-threat>
>
> Trump stormed out of the courtroom holding back tears.

Trump and his incompetent attorneys are trying to goad the judge into saying
things and taking actions that will give them an avenue for appeal. They remind
me of long-ago Manson family attorney Irving Kanarek. Kanarek apparently was a
really shitty trial attorney, but he was brilliant in appeals. Kanarek engaged
in outrageous courtroom antics in order to provoke judges into making mistakes
that would provide avenues for appeal. In Joseph Wambaugh's book "The Onion
Field," about the murder of an LAPD officer and the subsequent trial of the
killers, Wambaugh writes about an episode in which there was a complete lull in
the trial, during which the attorneys and the judge were quietly looking over
their papers. Kanarek suddenly blurted, "Objection, your honor." The judge and
the prosecutor looked up, befuddled, because nothing had been going on. The
judge asked Kanarek why he was objecting, and Kanarek replied, "The prosecutor
just said 'fuck you' to me." Bedlam broke out as the prosecutor shouted that he
had said no such thing and in fact had not been speaking at all. The prosecutor
was so enraged that he grabbed Kanarek by his shirt, prompting Kanarek to accuse
the prosecutor of assault. Kanarek eventually was removed from the case by the
judge. So was the prosecutor.

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The jury has the case:
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| E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan says her client
| deserves at least $24 million in compensatory damages to
| repair Carroll's reputation and compensate her for the
| emotional harm Donald Trump caused her.
|
| "The law says you can consider Donald Trump's wealth, as
| well as his malicious and spiteful continual conduct."
|
| "It will take an unusually high punitive damages award to
| have any hope of stopping Donald Trump to have a chance of
| allowing Ms. Carroll's life to return to normal."
|
<https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1750939219529253077>

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 21:43 UTC

> | E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan says her client
> | deserves at least $24 million in compensatory damages to
> | repair Carroll's reputation and compensate her for the
> | emotional harm Donald Trump caused her.

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| ***VERDICT: Jury awards E. Jean Carroll $18.3 MILLION in
| compensatory damages plus $65 MILLION in punitive damages
| in her defamation suit against Donald Trump
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<https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3kjw2nsdyjk2m>

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Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> |
> | Judge Threatens to Put Trump Lawyer Alina Habba 'in the
> | Lockup' at E. Jean Carroll Trial
> | ...
> <https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-alina-habba-jail-e-jean-carroll-federal-judge-threat>
>
> Trump stormed out of the courtroom holding back tears.
>
> --bks
>

THEY'RE TAKING AWAY HIS MONEY! With no visitation rights.

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