On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
>> >>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
>> >>> not...@noland.com says...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
>> >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
>> >>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
>> >>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> You do know this is wacko talk?
>> >>
>> >> and you *know* this because .....?
>> >
>> > BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
>> > president so you can go from there.
>> > He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
>> > That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
>> > president started.
>> > Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
>> > universally accepted tho.
>> > The republic survived.
>> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
>> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
>> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
>> ignore it.
>>
>> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
>> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
>> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
>> want to go any further.
>>
>> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
>> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
>> --
>
>===
>
>The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.

It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
the opposition party.
You folks must really be scared that he can win again.

Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.

In article <tbpq0h54jdolbmr68i8jfe73hliqjoft1m@4ax.com>,
gfretwell@aol.com says...
>
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
> >> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_nZ2dnUU7-dnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >> nothere@noland.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
> >>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
> >>>
> >>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
> >>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
> >>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
> >>
> >
> >
> >> You do know this is wacko talk?
> >
> >and you *know* this because .....?
>
> BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
> president so you can go from there.

Nonsense.

> He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.

More nonsense.

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:09:40 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
> wrote:
> >On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
> >> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
> >> not...@noland.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
> >>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
> >>>
> >>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
> >>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
> >>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
> >>
> >
> >
> >> You do know this is wacko talk?
> >
> >and you *know* this because .....?
> BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
> president so you can go from there.
> He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.

Many (most) liberals don't. I saw a "news" story on a major network a few days ago that talked about the 2000
election in passing. At least three times they said that the Supreme Court "handed" the election to Bush. Many
snowflakes are still counting chad in their sleep.

Gore isn't much different than Trump, he's just more polished and speaks in lower, softer tones. He tried
his best to steal the 2000 election.

gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:>> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote: >> >>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>, >> >>> not...@noland.com says... >> >>>> >> >>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote: >> >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course. >> >>>> >> >>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than >>
>>>> Hillary. She's still scheming. >> >>>> >> >>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's >> >>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> You do know this is wacko talk? >> >> >> >> and you *know* this because .....? >> > >> > BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate >> > president so you can go from there. >> > He didn't think Bush won in 00 either. >> > That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate >> > president started. >> > Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not >> > universally accepted tho. >> > The republic survived.>> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything >> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything >> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply >> ignore it. >> >> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the >> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because >> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't >> want to go any further. >> >> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing >> attention to himself. He's just following the evi
dence.>> -- >>===>>The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence. It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute oflimitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging againstTrump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. Thesewere financial deals before he was president. It is really just awitch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any futurepolitical run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, notthe opposition party. You folks must really be scared that he can win again. Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote forhim as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.

I'd prefer Desantis stays right where he is.
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On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
> >> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
> >> >>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
> >> >>> not...@noland.com says...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
> >> >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
> >> >>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
> >> >>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> You do know this is wacko talk?
> >> >>
> >> >> and you *know* this because .....?
> >> >
> >> > BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
> >> > president so you can go from there.
> >> > He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
> >> > That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
> >> > president started.
> >> > Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
> >> > universally accepted tho.
> >> > The republic survived.
> >> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
> >> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
> >> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
> >> ignore it.
> >>
> >> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
> >> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
> >> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
> >> want to go any further.
> >>
> >> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
> >> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
> >> --
> >
> >===
> >
> >The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
> were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
> witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
> political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
> the opposition party.
> You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
>
> Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
> him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.

==> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
> were financial deals before he was president.

The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

On Friday, 18 February 2022 at 13:09:10 UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
> > "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
> > >> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
> > >> >>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
> > >> >>> not...@noland.com says...
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
> > >> >>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
> > >> >>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> You do know this is wacko talk?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> and you *know* this because .....?
> > >> >
> > >> > BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
> > >> > president so you can go from there.
> > >> > He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
> > >> > That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
> > >> > president started.
> > >> > Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
> > >> > universally accepted tho.
> > >> > The republic survived.
> > >> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
> > >> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
> > >> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
> > >> ignore it.
> > >>
> > >> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
> > >> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
> > >> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
> > >> want to go any further.
> > >>
> > >> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
> > >> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
> > >> --
> > >
> > >===
> > >
> > >The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
> > It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
> > limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
> > Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
> > were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
> > witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
> > political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
> > the opposition party.
> > You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
> >
> > Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
> > him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.
> ==> > It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
> > limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
> > Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
> > were financial deals before he was president.
> The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

It would be quite a treat to see Trump shuffling around a prison yard in an orange jumpsuit.
He might like that it would match his hair.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:09:08 -0800 (PST),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> >> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
>> >> >>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
>> >> >>> not...@noland.com says...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
>> >> >>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
>> >> >>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> You do know this is wacko talk?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and you *know* this because .....?
>> >> >
>> >> > BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
>> >> > president so you can go from there.
>> >> > He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
>> >> > That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
>> >> > president started.
>> >> > Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
>> >> > universally accepted tho.
>> >> > The republic survived.
>> >> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
>> >> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
>> >> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
>> >> ignore it.
>> >>
>> >> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
>> >> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
>> >> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
>> >> want to go any further.
>> >>
>> >> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
>> >> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
>> >> --
>> >
>> >===
>> >
>> >The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>> were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
>> witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
>> political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
>> the opposition party.
>> You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
>>
>> Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
>> him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.
>
>===
>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>> were financial deals before he was president.
>
>The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

The specific charges I have seen were over 5 years ago. I admit, I am
not really riveted to this witch hunt tho. I will say if Trump had
just gone back to his TV show and business deals, not scaring the
democrats with another political run, this would not be happening at
all.
Nobody gave a shit when these things were happening 6 years or more
ago.
This is a political hit job. He must really have you scared that he
might win again.
I repeat, isn't this supposed to be the choice of the voters, not
democrat apparatchiks in the New York government?

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:48:51 -0800 (PST), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 18 February 2022 at 13:09:10 UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
>> > "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> > >> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> > >> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
>> > >> >>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
>> > >> >>> not...@noland.com says...
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > >> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
>> > >> >>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
>> > >> >>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> You do know this is wacko talk?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> and you *know* this because .....?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
>> > >> > president so you can go from there.
>> > >> > He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
>> > >> > That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
>> > >> > president started.
>> > >> > Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
>> > >> > universally accepted tho.
>> > >> > The republic survived.
>> > >> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
>> > >> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
>> > >> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
>> > >> ignore it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
>> > >> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
>> > >> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
>> > >> want to go any further.
>> > >>
>> > >> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
>> > >> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
>> > >> --
>> > >
>> > >===
>> > >
>> > >The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
>> > It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>> > limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>> > Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>> > were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
>> > witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
>> > political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
>> > the opposition party.
>> > You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
>> >
>> > Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
>> > him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.
>> ===
>> > It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>> > limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>> > Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>> > were financial deals before he was president.
>> The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
>
>
>It would be quite a treat to see Trump shuffling around a prison yard in an orange jumpsuit.
>He might like that it would match his hair.

This will be a civil action in the end, not a criminal one.
Sorry.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:09:08 -0800 (PST),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> >> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
>> >> >>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
>> >> >>> not...@noland.com says...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
>> >> >>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
>> >> >>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> You do know this is wacko talk?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and you *know* this because .....?
>> >> >
>> >> > BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
>> >> > president so you can go from there.
>> >> > He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
>> >> > That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
>> >> > president started.
>> >> > Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
>> >> > universally accepted tho.
>> >> > The republic survived.
>> >> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
>> >> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
>> >> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
>> >> ignore it.
>> >>
>> >> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
>> >> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
>> >> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
>> >> want to go any further.
>> >>
>> >> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
>> >> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
>> >> --
>> >
>> >===
>> >
>> >The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>> were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
>> witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
>> political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
>> the opposition party.
>> You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
>>
>> Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
>> him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.
>
>===
>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>> were financial deals before he was president.
>
>The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

Have you applied to CNN yet?

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:43:49 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
> >The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
> Have you applied to CNN yet?

==
As a New Yorker who spent a lifetime working in the financial services industry, I have been aware of Trump shenanigans for longer than CNN has been in existence.

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

> >> > It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
> >> > limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
> >> > Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
> >> > were financial deals before he was president.
> >> The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
> >
> >
> >It would be quite a treat to see Trump shuffling around a prison yard in an orange jumpsuit.
> >He might like that it would match his hair.

> This will be a civil action in the end, not a criminal one.
> Sorry.

==
There are certainly criminal charges that could be brought at the federal level if the justice department ever gets the stomach for it. It will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia with the Raffensperger case.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:22:46 -0800 (PST),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:43:49 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
>
>> >The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
>> Have you applied to CNN yet?
>
>===
>
>As a New Yorker who spent a lifetime working in the financial services industry, I have been aware of Trump shenanigans for longer than CNN has been in existence.

Anyone who was awake in the last half century knows Trump lives on
other people's money but he is not unique. There are lots of those
people out there.
My question is if this has been going on for over 50 years, why are
they just starting to look now?
Could it be politics?
Maybe we should be looking at crooked politicians like Nancy who has
been using her position to trade stocks with inside knowledge and even
market manipulation. Her and her hubby are billionaires, largely from
information the rest of us were not privy to.
OTOH
If the reports are True, Trump actually lost his shirt when he was
president.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:29:33 -0800 (PST),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> >> > It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>> >> > limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>> >> > Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>> >> > were financial deals before he was president.
>> >> The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
>> >
>> >
>> >It would be quite a treat to see Trump shuffling around a prison yard in an orange jumpsuit.
>> >He might like that it would match his hair.
>
>> This will be a civil action in the end, not a criminal one.
>> Sorry.
>
>===
>
>There are certainly criminal charges that could be brought at the federal level if the justice department ever gets the stomach for it. It will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia with the Raffensperger case.

That is not what is going on in New York tho. They are looking at
deals from years ago, before the statute of limitations on federal
crimes has expired.
I do think it is funny that the same people who blew off Hillary
destroying thousands of records that were under subpoena at the time
are so outraged that Trump seems to have misplaced some of his.

On 2/18/2022 1:25 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:09:08 -0800 (PST),
> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>>>> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>> not...@noland.com says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence refused much to his credit. There are many more.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
>>>>>>>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
>>>>>>>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You do know this is wacko talk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and you *know* this because .....?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
>>>>>> president so you can go from there.
>>>>>> He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
>>>>>> That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
>>>>>> president started.
>>>>>> Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
>>>>>> universally accepted tho.
>>>>>> The republic survived.
>>>>> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
>>>>> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
>>>>> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
>>>>> ignore it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
>>>>> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
>>>>> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
>>>>> want to go any further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
>>>>> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office. And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
>>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>>> were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
>>> witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
>>> political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
>>> the opposition party.
>>> You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
>>>
>>> Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
>>> him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.
>>
>> ===
>>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>>> were financial deals before he was president.
>>
>> The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
>
> The specific charges I have seen were over 5 years ago. I admit, I am
> not really riveted to this witch hunt tho. I will say if Trump had
> just gone back to his TV show and business deals, not scaring the
> democrats with another political run, this would not be happening at
> all.
> Nobody gave a shit when these things were happening 6 years or more
> ago.
> This is a political hit job. He must really have you scared that he
> might win again.
> I repeat, isn't this supposed to be the choice of the voters, not
> democrat apparatchiks in the New York government?
>

I suspect there are many politicians now out of office who hope
Trump never has to face federal charges for anything. It would
set a precedence that people like Hillary Clinton finds
terrifying.

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Mr. Luddite <nothere@noland.com> wrote:
> On 2/18/2022 1:25 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:09:08 -0800 (PST),
>> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>>> not...@noland.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
>>>>>>>>>>> Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet
>>>>>>>>>>> result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly
>>>>>>>>>>> deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to
>>>>>>>>>>> have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence
>>>>>>>>>>> refused much to his credit. There are many more.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
>>>>>>>>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
>>>>>>>>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You do know this is wacko talk?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and you *know* this because .....?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
>>>>>>> president so you can go from there.
>>>>>>> He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
>>>>>>> That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
>>>>>>> president started.
>>>>>>> Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
>>>>>>> universally accepted tho.
>>>>>>> The republic survived.
>>>>>> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
>>>>>> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
>>>>>> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
>>>>>> ignore it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
>>>>>> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
>>>>>> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
>>>>>> want to go any further.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
>>>>>> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and
>>>>> it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office.
>>>>> And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
>>>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>>>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>>>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>>>> were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
>>>> witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
>>>> political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
>>>> the opposition party.
>>>> You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
>>>>
>>>> Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
>>>> him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>>>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>>>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>>>> were financial deals before he was president.
>>>
>>> The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business
>>> practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the
>>> state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices
>>> haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm
>>> just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the
>>> last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges
>>> that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
>>
>> The specific charges I have seen were over 5 years ago. I admit, I am
>> not really riveted to this witch hunt tho. I will say if Trump had
>> just gone back to his TV show and business deals, not scaring the
>> democrats with another political run, this would not be happening at
>> all.
>> Nobody gave a shit when these things were happening 6 years or more
>> ago.
>> This is a political hit job. He must really have you scared that he
>> might win again.
>> I repeat, isn't this supposed to be the choice of the voters, not
>> democrat apparatchiks in the New York government?
>>
>
>
> I suspect there are many politicians now out of office who hope
> Trump never has to face federal charges for anything. It would
> set a precedence that people like Hillary Clinton finds
> terrifying.
>
>
>

The Democrats are running very scared. Even with the Covid, Trump did one
of the better jobs as POTUS. I don’t think Trump would be re-elected, but
another moderate conservative, is very likely to be elected if running.
Look at the people. They are FED UP with woke and the rampant crime, crap
education system, Biden and a Democrat controlled house giving away money,
causing possibly Carter inflation. Look at the very liberal, leftist San
Francisco. Recalled 3 Woke school board members. They would have recalled
all of them, but only 3 were eligible for recall. Don’t understand why
only some eligible for recall. Also, I think they can go back 7 years on
taxes.

On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 16:53:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mr. Luddite <nothere@noland.com> wrote:
>> On 2/18/2022 1:25 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:09:08 -0800 (PST),
>>> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:12:58 -0800 (PST),
>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:09:37 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 4:09 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:54:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 10:40 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <OdCdnd4AEKsoeJH_...@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> not...@noland.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2022 5:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5, justan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy. DJT's attempt to get the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
>>>>>>>>>>>> Raffensperger to "find" another 10,000 votes. That may yet
>>>>>>>>>>>> result in Trump's criminal prosecution and it would be richly
>>>>>>>>>>>> deserved. Here's another glaring example: Trump's attempt to
>>>>>>>>>>>> have Pence decertify the Electoral College vote, which Pence
>>>>>>>>>>>> refused much to his credit. There are many more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Both Raffensperger and Pence are loyal republicans of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To his credit though, he got over his loss a lot faster than
>>>>>>>>>>> Hillary. She's still scheming.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if the liberal press will ever cover Durham's
>>>>>>>>>>> findings of her BS she pulled. Doubtful
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You do know this is wacko talk?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and you *know* this because .....?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BAO is one of those people who never accepted Trump as the legitimate
>>>>>>>> president so you can go from there.
>>>>>>>> He didn't think Bush won in 00 either.
>>>>>>>> That may have been when the modern version of the illegitimate
>>>>>>>> president started.
>>>>>>>> Hayes (1876) and J.Q. Adams (1824) were two others who were not
>>>>>>>> universally accepted tho.
>>>>>>>> The republic survived.
>>>>>>> It's amazing to me that few liberals are interested in anything
>>>>>>> other than the popular liberal narratives. If there is anything
>>>>>>> out there that they don't like or want to hear, they simply
>>>>>>> ignore it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Durham's report thus far is pretty damming of Hillary and the
>>>>>>> Dems if it pans out to be true. I tend to believe it because
>>>>>>> it sorta picks up where Mueller stopped. Apparently he didn't
>>>>>>> want to go any further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Durham doesn't seem to be interested in the glory or drawing
>>>>>>> attention to himself. He's just following the evidence.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The statute of limitations is long gone for any Hilary misdeeds, and
>>>>>> it's very doubtful that she will ever again run for public office.
>>>>>> And as far as we know, she never incited an insurrection or other mob violence.
>>>>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>>>>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>>>>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>>>>> were financial deals before he was president. It is really just a
>>>>> witch hunt, trying to drive a stake in the heart of any future
>>>>> political run. I thought it was the voters who made that choice, not
>>>>> the opposition party.
>>>>> You folks must really be scared that he can win again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I would rather see DeSantis but I still might not vote for
>>>>> him as POTUS. He is an OK governor tho.
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>> It does bring up an interesting point. The federal statute of
>>>>> limitations is 5 years, so most of what they are alleging against
>>>>> Trump in New York right now is probably beyond that limit too. These
>>>>> were financial deals before he was president.
>>>>
>>>> The Trump Organization has been getting away with shady business
>>>> practices for many years, many of which have tax implications for the
>>>> state and city of New York. I'd be really surprised if those practices
>>>> haven't continued to the present day. Their former accounting firm
>>>> just withdrew support of their certified financial statements for the
>>>> last ten years in an apparent effort to get out in front of any charges
>>>> that they may face. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.
>>>
>>> The specific charges I have seen were over 5 years ago. I admit, I am
>>> not really riveted to this witch hunt tho. I will say if Trump had
>>> just gone back to his TV show and business deals, not scaring the
>>> democrats with another political run, this would not be happening at
>>> all.
>>> Nobody gave a shit when these things were happening 6 years or more
>>> ago.
>>> This is a political hit job. He must really have you scared that he
>>> might win again.
>>> I repeat, isn't this supposed to be the choice of the voters, not
>>> democrat apparatchiks in the New York government?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect there are many politicians now out of office who hope
>> Trump never has to face federal charges for anything. It would
>> set a precedence that people like Hillary Clinton finds
>> terrifying.
>>
>>
>>
>
>The Democrats are running very scared. Even with the Covid, Trump did one
>of the better jobs as POTUS. I don’t think Trump would be re-elected, but
>another moderate conservative, is very likely to be elected if running.
>Look at the people. They are FED UP with woke and the rampant crime, crap
>education system, Biden and a Democrat controlled house giving away money,
>causing possibly Carter inflation. Look at the very liberal, leftist San
>Francisco. Recalled 3 Woke school board members. They would have recalled
>all of them, but only 3 were eligible for recall. Don’t understand why
>only some eligible for recall. Also, I think they can go back 7 years on
>taxes.

The IRS operates on different rules, some tax cases have no statute of
limitations but generally an old tax case will be in civil court, not
criminal court.
It is actually fairly rare that the SEC or the IRS seeks criminal
charges. They generally prefer the advantages they get in civil court
and the lower burden of proof that entails. If it is a criminal case
they are doing more than simply prosecuting someone for misdeeds, they
are sending a message. I doubt the rest of the politicians who approve
their budget like the message that they could be prosecuted because of
a political vendetta. At any given point in time, around half of the
elected officials are in the other party.