A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
- a pivot from their aerospace work -

https://hensonshaving.com/

https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36

The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..

Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
turn custom handles !
... if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
pay for a custom handle ? :-)
After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
John T.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:59:37 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:

>A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>
>https://hensonshaving.com/
>
>https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>
>The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>
>Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
> turn custom handles !
>.. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>pay for a custom handle ? :-)
> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
> John T.

I grew a full beard to end the debate.

On 8/25/2021 7:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>
> https://hensonshaving.com/
>
> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>
> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>
> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
> turn custom handles !
> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
> John T.

I like the concept, but I wasn't pleased with the way the last double
sided safety razor that I owned worked. I have a straight razor, and it
did take some getting used to. As in, I butchered myself the first few
times for sure. Once I got a hang of it, I much prefer it; been using
it for a couple of years now.

On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>
> https://hensonshaving.com/
>
> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>
> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>
> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
> turn custom handles !
> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
> John T.
>

It's $70 not $100. ;~)

I like the Tiranium one. $250

At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>
>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>
>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>
>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>> turn custom handles !
>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>> John T.
>>
>
>
>It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>
>I like the Tiranium one. $250
>
>At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.

The $ 322.00 titanium models are all sold out in all 3 colours !
John T.

On 8/25/2021 1:22 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>
>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>
>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>
>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>> turn custom handles !
>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>> John T.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>
>> I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>
>> At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>
>
> The $ 322.00 titanium models are all sold out in all 3 colours !
> John T.
>

Where are you seeing $100 and $322?

Oh wait! You said, colours. You must be looking at Canadan prices. :~)

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:36:09 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 8/25/2021 1:22 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>
>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>
>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>
>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>
>>> I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>
>>> At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>
>>
>> The $ 322.00 titanium models are all sold out in all 3 colours !
>> John T.
>>
>
>
>Where are you seeing $100 and $322?
>
>Oh wait! You said, colours. You must be looking at Canadan prices. :~)

.... Bingough ! :-)

John T.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>
>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>
>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>
>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>> turn custom handles !
>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>> John T.
>>
>
>
>It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>
>I like the Tiranium one. $250
>
>At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.

I can't see US $70 for three pieces of anodized aluminum extrusion.

Double-edge razor bodies made of nickel-plated brass cost about $20.

One cannot tell from the description, but if the screw holding it all
together is aluminum on aluminum, the assembly will soon gall and
fail. Titanium may have the same issue.

And every time I've tried a double-edge razor, it gave me a bad razor
rash. They claim to have solved this, but don't really explain how.
(Multi blade razors like Quattro don't cause a rash.)

Joe Gwinn

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>
>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>
>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>
>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>> turn custom handles !
>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>> John T.
>>
>
>
>It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>
>I like the Tiranium one. $250
>
>At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.

That should be enough for a century.

<https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>

The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:38:49 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>wrote:
>
>>On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>
>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>
>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>
>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>> turn custom handles !
>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>> John T.
>>>
>>
>>
>>It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>
>>I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>
>>At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>
>That should be enough for a century.
>
><https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>
>
>The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.

I've seen a couple different vintage sharpeners for
safety razor blades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcqrBJxykw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpBQin-2g1E

John T.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:56:29 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:38:49 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>
>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>
>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>
>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>
>>>I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>
>>>At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>
>>That should be enough for a century.
>>
>><https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>
>>
>>The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.
>
>
>
>I've seen a couple different vintage sharpeners for
>safety razor blades.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcqrBJxykw
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpBQin-2g1E
>
No sharpening is needed, not that I care much. I haven't shaved since
September 1993.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:36:09 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 8/25/2021 1:22 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>
>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>
>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>
>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>
>>> I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>
>>> At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>
>>
>> The $ 322.00 titanium models are all sold out in all 3 colours !
>> John T.
>>
>
>
>Where are you seeing $100 and $322?
>
>Oh wait! You said, colours. You must be looking at Canadan prices. :~)
Yes, since they are made about 30km from John's place (and about 10
from mine) here in Canada.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:56:29 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:38:49 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>
>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>
>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>
>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>
>>>I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>
>>>At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>
>>That should be enough for a century.
>>
>><https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>
>>
>>The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.
>
>
>
>I've seen a couple different vintage sharpeners for
>safety razor blades.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcqrBJxykw
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpBQin-2g1E
>
> John T.

I remember seeing my grandfather sharpening his Gillette Blue Blades
on the inside of a damp glass - with the blade held vertically so just
the cutting edges touched the glass and got honed a bit. Did it
really work? I guess it did - or he thought it did - because I saw
him do it multiple times. Maybe we were just poor?

On 8/25/2021 6:56 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:38:49 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>
>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>
>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>
>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>
>>> I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>
>>> At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>
>> That should be enough for a century.
>>
>> <https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>
>>
>> The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.
>
>
>
> I've seen a couple different vintage sharpeners for
> safety razor blades.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcqrBJxykw
>

Wow!!

Today's price $647. Eat your heart out Tormek!

On 8/26/2021 4:52 AM, ads wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:56:29 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:38:49 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>>
>>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>>
>>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>>> John T.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>>
>>>> At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>>
>>> That should be enough for a century.
>>>
>>> <https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>
>>>
>>> The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've seen a couple different vintage sharpeners for
>> safety razor blades.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcqrBJxykw
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpBQin-2g1E
>>
>> John T.
>
> I remember seeing my grandfather sharpening his Gillette Blue Blades
> on the inside of a damp glass - with the blade held vertically so just
> the cutting edges touched the glass and got honed a bit. Did it
> really work? I guess it did - or he thought it did - because I saw
> him do it multiple times. Maybe we were just poor?
>

Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
out an assistant.

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>On 8/26/2021 4:52 AM, ads wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:56:29 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:38:49 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>>>> John T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>>>
>>>>> At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>>>
>>>> That should be enough for a century.
>>>>
>>>> <https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>
>>>>
>>>> The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple different vintage sharpeners for
>>> safety razor blades.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcqrBJxykw
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpBQin-2g1E
>>>
>>> John T.
>>
>> I remember seeing my grandfather sharpening his Gillette Blue Blades
>> on the inside of a damp glass - with the blade held vertically so just
>> the cutting edges touched the glass and got honed a bit. Did it
>> really work? I guess it did - or he thought it did - because I saw
>> him do it multiple times. Maybe we were just poor?
>>
>
>Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>out an assistant.
>

I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
boots.

What do you consider rich?

>>Rich people today could not pour piss out of a boot
>without an assistant.
>>
>
>I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
>boots.
>

They'd piss in your boot and deduct it as a
Charitable Donation.
John T.

On 8/26/2021 1:40 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>> On 8/26/2021 4:52 AM, ads wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:56:29 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:38:49 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:06:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/25/2021 6:59 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>>>>>>> A local company is selling a new precision safety razor -
>>>>>>> - a pivot from their aerospace work -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://hensonshaving.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/5w6vjv36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The few reviews that mention a complaint - seem to relate to
>>>>>>> its light-weight ; and I can imagine wanting a bigger handle
>>>>>>> as well .. not having tried it .. yet ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the business plan for the keen wood-turners here -
>>>>>>> turn custom handles !
>>>>>>> .. if someone just paid $ 100. for a razor maybe they'd
>>>>>>> pay for a custom handle ? :-)
>>>>>>> After 50 years of happily using a Trak II -
>>>>>>> why am I considering an expensive safety razor, again ?
>>>>>>> John T.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's $70 not $100. ;~)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the Tiranium one. $250
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least the replacement blades are inexpensive, in lots of 100.
>>>>>
>>>>> That should be enough for a century.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://clark.com/family-lifestyle/how-to-make-razors-last-longer/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The guy is so cheap his shoes squeak. ...yet drives a Tesla-S.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've seen a couple different vintage sharpeners for
>>>> safety razor blades.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcqrBJxykw
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpBQin-2g1E
>>>>
>>>> John T.
>>>
>>> I remember seeing my grandfather sharpening his Gillette Blue Blades
>>> on the inside of a damp glass - with the blade held vertically so just
>>> the cutting edges touched the glass and got honed a bit. Did it
>>> really work? I guess it did - or he thought it did - because I saw
>>> him do it multiple times. Maybe we were just poor?
>>>
>>
>> Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>> intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>> out an assistant.
>>
>
> I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
> boots.

One would expect! My boss 25 years ago, owner of the company I was a GM
for, was a few months younger than me. AND a college graduate I might add.

It took me a while and IIRC some picture drawing to illustrate that if
you add 10% to a number and then take 10% away from that result that you
do not end up with the same beginning value. Percentages was not his
strong suite, among many others. But he sold the business a couple of
years after I left the company and was worth millions, as money.
Property assets were gravy.

>
> What do you consider rich?
>

A net worth of at least a couple million dollars. And at least half of
that being liquid.

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>On 8/26/2021 1:40 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

>>> Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>>> intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>>> out an assistant.
>>>
>>
>> I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
>> boots.
>
>One would expect! My boss 25 years ago, owner of the company I was a GM
>for, was a few months younger than me. AND a college graduate I might add.

Generalizing from a single example is fraught. The distribution of
intelligence (and pretty much everything else) falls along a bell
curve.

>>
>> What do you consider rich?
>>
>
>A net worth of at least a couple million dollars. And at least half of
>that being liquid.

A millionaire in 1960 would need ten million dollars today to have
the same net worth.

A net worth of ten million puts one in the soi distant 1%.

On 8/27/2021 8:53 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>> On 8/26/2021 1:40 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>>>> Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>>>> intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>>>> out an assistant.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
>>> boots.
>>
>> One would expect! My boss 25 years ago, owner of the company I was a GM
>> for, was a few months younger than me. AND a college graduate I might add.
>
> Generalizing from a single example is fraught. The distribution of
> intelligence (and pretty much everything else) falls along a bell
> curve.

I can give you many examples but this is the one that a middle school
student should have gotten. Or when he could not determine what to
charge a customer for a battery adjustment replacement. THE WARRANTY
TAG ON THE BATTERY SAID HOW MUCH TO CHARGE. It was literally a daily
thing of confusion.

>
>>>
>>> What do you consider rich?
>>>
>>
>> A net worth of at least a couple million dollars. And at least half of
>> that being liquid.
>
> A millionaire in 1960 would need ten million dollars today to have
> the same net worth.
>
> A net worth of ten million puts one in the soi distant 1%.
>
Actually a millionaire in 1960 would need ten million to have the same
buying power. Net worth is the addition of assets, not buying power.

Well you asked what "I" considered rich. Ten years from now my answer
will likely change as does you example from 60 years ago.

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>On 8/27/2021 8:53 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>>> On 8/26/2021 1:40 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>>>> Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>>>>> intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>>>>> out an assistant.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
>>>> boots.
>>>
>>> One would expect! My boss 25 years ago, owner of the company I was a GM
>>> for, was a few months younger than me. AND a college graduate I might add.
>>
>> Generalizing from a single example is fraught. The distribution of
>> intelligence (and pretty much everything else) falls along a bell
>> curve.
>
>I can give you many examples but this is the one that a middle school

A very intelligent person can have trouble with math. That doesn't make
them not intelligent, just not perfect. Not all college degrees require
mathematical skills.

Anecdotal evidence is isn't. (evidence, that is).

Personally, I know quite a few people in the 1%, including many scientists,
venture capitalists and CEOs. They're all quite intelligent and don't ever
piss in their boots (nor would they have any difficulty doing so
were it necessary; as well as subsequently pouring it out).

As I noted, it's a bell curve; you'll find rich folks on either end,
although the lower end is generally inherited wealth, not self-made.

>> A net worth of ten million puts one in the soi distant 1%.
>>
>Actually a millionaire in 1960 would need ten million to have the same
>buying power. Net worth is the addition of assets, not buying power.

assets and buying power (which leverages assets) aren't as different
as you think.

My point was that the term 'millionaire' doesn't have the same
cachet today as it had when you were growing up, particularly given
current real-estate valuations - although as you correctly noted,
those assets aren't liquid, they can be leveraged.

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:53:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>>On 8/26/2021 1:40 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>>>> Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>>>> intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>>>> out an assistant.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
>>> boots.
>>
>>One would expect! My boss 25 years ago, owner of the company I was a GM
>>for, was a few months younger than me. AND a college graduate I might add.
>
>Generalizing from a single example is fraught. The distribution of
>intelligence (and pretty much everything else) falls along a bell
>curve.

By definition.
>
>>>
>>> What do you consider rich?
>>>
>>
>>A net worth of at least a couple million dollars. And at least half of
>>that being liquid.
>
>A millionaire in 1960 would need ten million dollars today to have
>the same net worth.

We just this discussion here. One may be able to retire comfortably on
a megabuck AND Social Security, as long as you don't live too long.
Retire before 65, and you'd better make that two-megabux.

As you point out, $1M ain't what it used to be.
>
>A net worth of ten million puts one in the soi distant 1%.

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 15:40:26 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>>On 8/27/2021 8:53 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>>>> On 8/26/2021 1:40 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>>>>>> intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>>>>>> out an assistant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
>>>>> boots.
>>>>
>>>> One would expect! My boss 25 years ago, owner of the company I was a GM
>>>> for, was a few months younger than me. AND a college graduate I might add.
>>>
>>> Generalizing from a single example is fraught. The distribution of
>>> intelligence (and pretty much everything else) falls along a bell
>>> curve.
>>
>>I can give you many examples but this is the one that a middle school
>
>A very intelligent person can have trouble with math. That doesn't make
>them not intelligent, just not perfect. Not all college degrees require
>mathematical skills.

I guess one can be brilliant and illiterate, too. That's what Leon was
talking about. Not calculus.
>
>Anecdotal evidence is isn't. (evidence, that is).
>
>Personally, I know quite a few people in the 1%, including many scientists,
>venture capitalists and CEOs. They're all quite intelligent and don't ever
>piss in their boots (nor would they have any difficulty doing so
>were it necessary; as well as subsequently pouring it out).
>
>As I noted, it's a bell curve; you'll find rich folks on either end,
>although the lower end is generally inherited wealth, not self-made.

At the IQ 80 end, probably not. But 120 is the other sigma. I'm sure
there are many between. But, again, the distribution "intelligence"
is, by definition, a bell curve. It's the way it's "measured".
>
>>> A net worth of ten million puts one in the soi distant 1%.
>>>
>>Actually a millionaire in 1960 would need ten million to have the same
>>buying power. Net worth is the addition of assets, not buying power.
>
>assets and buying power (which leverages assets) aren't as different
>as you think.
>
>My point was that the term 'millionaire' doesn't have the same
>cachet today as it had when you were growing up, particularly given
>current real-estate valuations - although as you correctly noted,
>those assets aren't liquid, they can be leveraged.

Only if there is some sort on "income" that will pay the note. One my
former managers had a net worth that put him into your "distant 1%"
and retired early. He couldn't get a car loan. The banks just said
"pay cash". "If you can't use your money, why should we take the risk
with ours?"

>
> One my former managers had a net worth that put him into your "distant 1%"
>and retired early. He couldn't get a car loan. The banks just said
>"pay cash". "If you can't use your money, why should we take the risk
>with ours?"

Seriously ?
... that does not sound like any bank that I have ever known !
... not that a car loan is a good idea - except for the bank.
I have heard of cases where a person didn't have any kind
of "credit rating" that the bank could check -
because they never had any credit cards or debt of any kind.
.. I think my oldest brother might fit-the-bill.
John T.

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:04:16 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:53:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>wrote:
>
>>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>>>On 8/26/2021 1:40 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>>>> Interesting observation. Maybe we were just poor, or extremely
>>>>> intelligent. Rich people today could not poor piss out of a boot with
>>>>> out an assistant.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would expect rich people to be smart enough not to piss in their
>>>> boots.
>>>
>>>One would expect! My boss 25 years ago, owner of the company I was a GM
>>>for, was a few months younger than me. AND a college graduate I might add.
>>
>>Generalizing from a single example is fraught. The distribution of
>>intelligence (and pretty much everything else) falls along a bell
>>curve.
>
>By definition.
>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you consider rich?
>>>>
>>>
>>>A net worth of at least a couple million dollars. And at least half of
>>>that being liquid.
>>
>>A millionaire in 1960 would need ten million dollars today to have
>>the same net worth.
>
>We just this discussion here. One may be able to retire comfortably on
>a megabuck AND Social Security, as long as you don't live too long.
>Retire before 65, and you'd better make that two-megabux.
>
>As you point out, $1M ain't what it used to be.
>>
>>A net worth of ten million puts one in the soi distant 1%

Didn't have the megabuck when I retired 20+ years ago, but I was smart
enough to take advantage of job offers after I retired - I think I've
now retired 4 times ;-)

Being frugal (OK, cheap) and of the DIY persuasion also helps. Had an
HVAC semi-emergency the other night - the condensate pump not moving
the water and there's water in the catch pan. The pump was
semi-permanently installed (PVC drain pipe assembled in place -
including the entry to the pump's reservoir) so you must cut the pipe
to get the pump out. First some old towels to cath the drips, then
drill a small hole in the pipe just above where it enters the pump. No
water from that hole so they blockage is in the pump's reservoir of
it's above the hole I drilled. Oscillating saw to take the pipe off
at the top of the pump housing, then a funnel and pircher to run water
through the pump and see what's under the murky water. Two quarts
later, the bottom of the pump's reservoir can be seen and the pump
works fine. Now the drain pipe is too short to enter the pump's
housing but that's OK as there's space for a piece of 2x4 to go under
the pump and raise it just high enough to capture the pipe. Three
days later it's still working fine - the original installation had the
end of the pipe too close to the bottom of the pump's reservoir and
the bits of debris (fuzz, lint, whatever) that wash down from the
evaporator coil had accumulated deeply enough to block the drain pipe.
That pipe now has more than an inch of clearance from the bottom of
the pump's reservoir so I shouldn't have this problem again. Other
than my time, zero cost for an after hours HVAC repair. What's the
going rate for that? Enough to pay for the cordless drill and
oscillating saw?