Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie
dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na to ze
Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz
i przylaczyc sie do wojny.

Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.

Zelensky admits Ukraine’s inability to go on counteroffensive

TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a counteroffensive in the east, explaining this by a lack of necessary weapons, according to his interview with Japan's largest newspaper, the Yomiuri Shimbun.

"We can't launch it [a counteroffensive] yet. Without tanks, artillery and [American multiple rocket launchers] HIMARS, we cannot send our brave soldiers to the front lines," the Ukrainian leader said. He also pointed to the serious shortage of ammunition, stressing that Kiev was currently awaiting deliveries from partners.

When touching upon the possibility of resuming peace talks between Ukraine and Russia, Zelensky opined that "absolutely no conditions have been formed for this."

In addition, he said that he was skeptical about China's proposed peace plan. "We have not received any offers of mediation or organization of negotiations from China," the Ukrainian president said, adding that he had notified Beijing through diplomatic channels about his readiness to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

The newspaper pointed out that Zelensky was interviewed on a train on his way to Kiev after visiting the Ukrainian-controlled part of the Kherson Region.

https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:56:39 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
>
> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie
> dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na to ze
> Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz
> i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
>
> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.

Staje sie zrozumiala decyzja ostatnich dni
gdzie Putyn zadecydowal o rychlym wyslaniu
ruskich atomowek na Bialorus.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

> Zelensky admits Ukraine’s inability to go on counteroffensive
>
> TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a counteroffensive in the east, explaining this by a lack of necessary weapons, according to his interview with Japan's largest newspaper, the Yomiuri Shimbun.
>
> "We can't launch it [a counteroffensive] yet. Without tanks, artillery and [American multiple rocket launchers] HIMARS, we cannot send our brave soldiers to the front lines," the Ukrainian leader said. He also pointed to the serious shortage of ammunition, stressing that Kiev was currently awaiting deliveries from partners.
>
> When touching upon the possibility of resuming peace talks between Ukraine and Russia, Zelensky opined that "absolutely no conditions have been formed for this."
>
> In addition, he said that he was skeptical about China's proposed peace plan. "We have not received any offers of mediation or organization of negotiations from China," the Ukrainian president said, adding that he had notified Beijing through diplomatic channels about his readiness to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
>
> The newspaper pointed out that Zelensky was interviewed on a train on his way to Kiev after visiting the Ukrainian-controlled part of the Kherson Region.
>
> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 06:47:03 -0700 (PDT), Basia wrote:

> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:56:39 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
>>
>> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na
>> to ze Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
>>
>> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>
> Staje sie zrozumiala decyzja ostatnich dni gdzie Putyn zadecydowal o
> rychlym wyslaniu ruskich atomowek na Bialorus.
>
> Basia (Ona/Jej)
>
>> Zelensky admits Ukraine’s inability to go on counteroffensive
>>
>> TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has
>> admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a
>> counteroffensive in the east, explaining this by a lack of necessary
>> weapons, according to his interview with Japan's largest newspaper, the
>> Yomiuri Shimbun.
>>
>> "We can't launch it [a counteroffensive] yet. Without tanks, artillery
>> and [American multiple rocket launchers] HIMARS, we cannot send our
>> brave soldiers to the front lines," the Ukrainian leader said. He also
>> pointed to the serious shortage of ammunition, stressing that Kiev was
>> currently awaiting deliveries from partners.
>>
>> When touching upon the possibility of resuming peace talks between
>> Ukraine and Russia, Zelensky opined that "absolutely no conditions have
>> been formed for this."
>>
>> In addition, he said that he was skeptical about China's proposed peace
>> plan. "We have not received any offers of mediation or organization of
>> negotiations from China," the Ukrainian president said, adding that he
>> had notified Beijing through diplomatic channels about his readiness to
>> meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
>>
>> The newspaper pointed out that Zelensky was interviewed on a train on
>> his way to Kiev after visiting the Ukrainian-controlled part of the
>> Kherson Region.
>>
>> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275

Zelensky w ruchu lata jak zyd po pustym sklepie?

widocznie jeszcze nie zrobil downpaypent na sprzet

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 7:03:35 AM UTC-7, andal wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 06:47:03 -0700 (PDT), Basia wrote:
>
> > On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:56:39 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
> >>
> >> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na
> >> to ze Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz i przylaczyc sie do wojny..
> >>
> >> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
> >
> > Staje sie zrozumiala decyzja ostatnich dni gdzie Putyn zadecydowal o
> > rychlym wyslaniu ruskich atomowek na Bialorus.
> >
> > Basia (Ona/Jej)
> >
> >> Zelensky admits Ukraine’s inability to go on counteroffensive
> >>
> >> TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has
> >> admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a
> >> counteroffensive in the east, explaining this by a lack of necessary
> >> weapons, according to his interview with Japan's largest newspaper, the
> >> Yomiuri Shimbun.
> >>
> >> "We can't launch it [a counteroffensive] yet. Without tanks, artillery
> >> and [American multiple rocket launchers] HIMARS, we cannot send our
> >> brave soldiers to the front lines," the Ukrainian leader said. He also
> >> pointed to the serious shortage of ammunition, stressing that Kiev was
> >> currently awaiting deliveries from partners.
> >>
> >> When touching upon the possibility of resuming peace talks between
> >> Ukraine and Russia, Zelensky opined that "absolutely no conditions have
> >> been formed for this."
> >>
> >> In addition, he said that he was skeptical about China's proposed peace
> >> plan. "We have not received any offers of mediation or organization of
> >> negotiations from China," the Ukrainian president said, adding that he
> >> had notified Beijing through diplomatic channels about his readiness to
> >> meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
> >>
> >> The newspaper pointed out that Zelensky was interviewed on a train on
> >> his way to Kiev after visiting the Ukrainian-controlled part of the
> >> Kherson Region.
> >>
> >> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275
>
> Zelensky w ruchu lata jak zyd po pustym sklepie?
>
> widocznie jeszcze nie zrobil downpaypent na sprzet

Mozliwe ze Biden nie przyslal obiecanej forsy.
W rachube moze wchodzic zwykly szantaz,
teraz gdy USA postawily swoja reputacje na
szale konfliktu.

Ukraina to pieczara korupcji juz przed wojna
byla, co dopiero teraz.

Andriy Pyshnyi, Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine, has purchased a new Rolls Royce.

https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1638622780907462656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1638622780907462656%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/andriy-pyshnyi-governor-of-the-national-bank-of-ukraine-has-purchased-a-new-rolls-royce.5208613/

Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT), Basia wrote:

> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 7:03:35 AM UTC-7, andal wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 06:47:03 -0700 (PDT), Basia wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:56:39 AM UTC-7, Basia wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada
>> >> na to ze Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz i przylaczyc sie do
>> >> wojny.
>> >>
>> >> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>> >
>> > Staje sie zrozumiala decyzja ostatnich dni gdzie Putyn zadecydowal o
>> > rychlym wyslaniu ruskich atomowek na Bialorus.
>> >
>> > Basia (Ona/Jej)
>> >
>> >> Zelensky admits Ukraine’s inability to go on counteroffensive
>> >>
>> >> TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has
>> >> admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a
>> >> counteroffensive in the east, explaining this by a lack of necessary
>> >> weapons, according to his interview with Japan's largest newspaper,
>> >> the Yomiuri Shimbun.
>> >>
>> >> "We can't launch it [a counteroffensive] yet. Without tanks,
>> >> artillery and [American multiple rocket launchers] HIMARS, we cannot
>> >> send our brave soldiers to the front lines," the Ukrainian leader
>> >> said. He also pointed to the serious shortage of ammunition,
>> >> stressing that Kiev was currently awaiting deliveries from partners.
>> >>
>> >> When touching upon the possibility of resuming peace talks between
>> >> Ukraine and Russia, Zelensky opined that "absolutely no conditions
>> >> have been formed for this."
>> >>
>> >> In addition, he said that he was skeptical about China's proposed
>> >> peace plan. "We have not received any offers of mediation or
>> >> organization of negotiations from China," the Ukrainian president
>> >> said, adding that he had notified Beijing through diplomatic
>> >> channels about his readiness to meet with Chinese President Xi
>> >> Jinping.
>> >>
>> >> The newspaper pointed out that Zelensky was interviewed on a train
>> >> on his way to Kiev after visiting the Ukrainian-controlled part of
>> >> the Kherson Region.
>> >>
>> >> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275
>>
>> Zelensky w ruchu lata jak zyd po pustym sklepie?
>>
>> widocznie jeszcze nie zrobil downpaypent na sprzet
>
> Mozliwe ze Biden nie przyslal obiecanej forsy.
> W rachube moze wchodzic zwykly szantaz,
> teraz gdy USA postawily swoja reputacje na szale konfliktu.
>
> Ukraina to pieczara korupcji juz przed wojna byla, co dopiero teraz.
>
> Andriy Pyshnyi, Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine, has purchased
> a new Rolls Royce.
>
> https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1638622780907462656?
ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1638622780907462656%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
>
> https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/andriy-pyshnyi-governor-of-the-
national-bank-of-ukraine-has-purchased-a-new-rolls-royce.5208613/
>
> Basia (Ona/Jej)

mowia ze kupil za twoje podatki, chojny jestes

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie
> dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na to ze
> Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz
> i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
>
> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.

Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku. Zachod wysyla "too little too late" - nie wyslal tyle broni i zwlaszcza amunicji artyleryjskiej, ile jest potrzeba do przejscia do kontrofensywy. Kontroofensywa bez przewagi liczbnej, sprzetowej i artyleryjskiej - jest skazana na porazke i duze straty w ludziach. Dlatego wszystkim niecierpliwym na Zachodzie - no kiedy w koncu przejdziecie do kontrofensywy - pytanie czy dostarczyliscie wystarczajaco wiele amunicji, i broni ktora jest do tego potrzebna.

Jak to pisal Tom Cooper na swoim blogu - przedwczesna ofensywa z powodu parcia politykow -
konczy sie wielkimi stratami i zakwestionowaniem lub przynajmniej opoznieniem zwyciestwa (podal przyklad kontrofensywy Iranu przeciwko Irakowi):
https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-20-march-2023-93c257aad690

No, ale nie ma tego zlego ... - przynajmniej wyszlo skad nasz Zwolan czerpie inspiracje:
> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275

On 27-Mar-23 13:42, Piotr wrote:
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
>> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie
>> dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na to ze
>> Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz
>> i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
>>
>> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>
> Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku.
Brakuje, bo jest rozkradane przez banderowców
„Latem ubiegłego roku ukraiński rząd przeznaczył 1,68 mld hrywien (równowartość ponad 200 mln
złotych) na zakup m.in. generatorów prądu, niezbędnych w warunkach nieustających rosyjskich
ostrzałów infrastruktury krytycznej. Szereg urzędników, zarówno z władz centralnych, jak i
regionalnych, postanowił na tym zarobić. Zawarli układ z pośrednikami, którzy zawyżali ceny
oferowanych dla państwa towarów. Nadwyżkę wkładali do kieszeni.”
https://www.rp.pl/konflikty-zbrojne/art37828431-jedni-walcza-za-ukraine-inni-kradna-korupcja-w-czasach-wojny-czesto-nawet-rozkwita

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 12:42:53 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
>
> > Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie
> > dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na to ze
> > Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz
> > i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
> >
> > Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>
> Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku.

"Brak wystarczajacej ilosci broni" to moze byc
zarowno stan faktyczny jak i zwykla wymowka.

Kazdy przegrywajacy wojne, badz to od poczatku
badz to pozniej z latwoscia moze obwiniac swoje
niepowodzenia na niewystarczajaca ilosc broni/sprzetu.
Stad Basia przezornie pisze: "Niesposob wiedziec
co sie dokladnie na Ukrainie dzieje... ."

Prymitywni propagandysci nie zwracaja na takie
szczegoly uwagi.
> Zachod wysyla "too little too late" - nie wyslal tyle broni i zwlaszcza amunicji artyleryjskiej, ile jest potrzeba do przejscia do kontrofensywy. Kontroofensywa bez przewagi liczbnej, sprzetowej i artyleryjskiej - jest skazana na porazke i duze straty w ludziach. Dlatego wszystkim niecierpliwym na Zachodzie - no kiedy w koncu przejdziecie do kontrofensywy - pytanie czy dostarczyliscie wystarczajaco wiele amunicji, i broni ktora jest do tego potrzebna.

Brzmi jak wymowka.

Ukraincow NATO przygotowywalo do wojny od
2014 roku. Merkel, a pozniej i Macron, przyznali
ze Umowy Minskie byly oszustwem ktorego
zamiarem bylo kupienie czasu na zbrojenie
Ukrancow. Wiec NATO przez 8 lat przygotowywalo
Ukraine do wojny z Rosja a pozniej caly czas
narzekania na braki?

> No, ale nie ma tego zlego ... - przynajmniej wyszlo skad nasz Zwolan czerpie inspiracje:
>
> > https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275

Co zlego propagandysta dopatrzyl sie w powyzszym
przekazie, czy po prostu czlowiek od Jaskota probuje
dorabiac gebe??

TASS podalo za wywiadem udzielonym przez Zelenskiego
najwiekszej japonskiej gazecie (https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp)
a media na Zachodzie milcza, co aprobuje usadowioona
w Kanadzie agentura od Jaskota.

TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a counteroffensive in the east, explaining this by a lack of necessary weapons, according to his interview with Japan's largest newspaper, the Yomiuri Shimbun.

https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275

Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:56:07 PM UTC-2:30, Zexon🇵🇱 wrote:
> On 27-Mar-23 13:42, Piotr wrote:
> > On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> >> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie
> >> dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na to ze
> >> Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz
> >> i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
> >>
> >> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
> >
> > Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku.
> Brakuje, bo jest rozkradane przez banderowców
> „Latem ubiegłego roku ukraiński rząd przeznaczył 1,68 mld hrywien (równowartość ponad 200 mln
> złotych) na zakup m.in. generatorów prądu, niezbędnych w warunkach nieustających rosyjskich
> ostrzałów infrastruktury krytycznej. Szereg urzędników, zarówno z władz centralnych, jak i
> regionalnych, postanowił na tym zarobić.

Kanalie zdarzaja sie w kazdym narodzie - patrz Zenon probujacy przechwycic darowizny
dla bezdomnych:

"Jestem bezdomny nie mam pieniędzy" "Podeślesz trochę?"
Aleksander vel Sandra vel Zexon

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:00:06 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 12:42:53 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
> > On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> >
> > > Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie
> > > dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na to ze
> > > Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz
> > > i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
> > >
> > > Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
> >
> > Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku.
> "Brak wystarczajacej ilosci broni" to moze byc
> zarowno stan faktyczny jak i zwykla wymowka.

alez oczywiscie, o Bardzo Stabilny Geniuszu - to na pewno wymowka - Ukraina siedzi
na broni i pociskach ale woli pozwalac Rosjanom mordowac ukrianskich cywilow na okupowanych ziemiach, wywowiz dzieci do rusyfikacji, budowac umocnienia na zagrabionych Ukrainie terenach i tracic niepotrzebnie tysiace swoich zolnierzy w wyniku niewystarczajacego
wsparcia ich artyleria (artyleria rosyjska od roku wystrzeliwuje kilka razy wiecej pociskow
niz Ukraincy).

Klasyczne myslenie PRLowskiego komucha - broni Rosji jak matki, za wszystko wini USA
i Zachod i wierzy tylko oficjalnej propagandzie rosyjskie (agencja TASS) - patrz Ed Zwolan otwierajacy ten watek aby upowszeczhnic swoje zrodlow wiedzy:
> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275
zrodlo, ktoremu nawet po roku brutalnej wojny - slowo "wojna" nie przejdzie przez gardlo
("military-operation-in-ukraine").

Zrodlo ktorego tezy nasz Zwolan promuje i uwiarygadnia powolujac sie na nie na scp.
I jak przystalo na komucha - uwaza swoje wchodzenie Rosji w dupe za
jak najbardziej naturalne:

"Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]".

You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...

==Piotr

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT), Piotr wrote:

> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
>> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na
>> to ze Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz i przylaczyc sie do wojny.
>>
>> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>
> Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku. Zachod wysyla "too
> little too late" - nie wyslal tyle broni i zwlaszcza amunicji
> artyleryjskiej, ile jest potrzeba do przejscia do kontrofensywy.
> Kontroofensywa bez przewagi liczbnej, sprzetowej i artyleryjskiej -
> jest skazana na porazke i duze straty w ludziach. Dlatego wszystkim
> niecierpliwym na Zachodzie - no kiedy w koncu przejdziecie do
> kontrofensywy - pytanie czy dostarczyliscie wystarczajaco wiele
> amunicji, i broni ktora jest do tego potrzebna.
>
> Jak to pisal Tom Cooper na swoim blogu - przedwczesna ofensywa z powodu
> parcia politykow -
> konczy sie wielkimi stratami i zakwestionowaniem lub przynajmniej
> opoznieniem zwyciestwa (podal przyklad kontrofensywy Iranu przeciwko
> Irakowi):
> https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-20-march-2023-93c257aad690
>
> No, ale nie ma tego zlego ... - przynajmniej wyszlo skad nasz Zwolan
> czerpie inspiracje:
>
>> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275

glupi huju barciarszki! twoj Zwolan nie ukrywal skad wiadomosc
--------------------------------------------------------------
> TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has
> admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a
> counteroffensive in the east,
---------------------------------------------------------------------

wiec spierdalaj poprawic kartoteke

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:26:05 -0600, Zexon🇵🇱 wrote:

> On 27-Mar-23 13:42, Piotr wrote:
>> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
>>> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na
>>> to ze Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz i przylaczyc sie do
>>> wojny.
>>>
>>> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>>
>> Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku.
> Brakuje, bo jest rozkradane przez banderowców „Latem ubiegłego roku
> ukraiński rząd przeznaczył 1,68 mld hrywien (równowartość ponad 200 mln
> złotych) na zakup m.in. generatorów prądu, niezbędnych w warunkach
> nieustających rosyjskich ostrzałów infrastruktury krytycznej. Szereg
> urzędników, zarówno z władz centralnych, jak i regionalnych, postanowił
> na tym zarobić. Zawarli układ z pośrednikami, którzy zawyżali ceny
> oferowanych dla państwa towarów. Nadwyżkę wkładali do kieszeni.”
> https://www.rp.pl/konflikty-zbrojne/art37828431-jedni-walcza-za-ukraine-
inni-kradna-korupcja-w-czasach-wojny-czesto-nawet-rozkwita

banderowcy zdolna nacja, szybko sie ucza od zyda

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 17:00:15 -0700 (PDT), Piotr wrote:

> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:56:07 PM UTC-2:30, Zexon🇵🇱 wrote:
>> On 27-Mar-23 13:42, Piotr wrote:
>> > On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
>> >> Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada
>> >> na to ze Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz i przylaczyc sie do
>> >> wojny.
>> >>
>> >> Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>> >
>> > Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku.
>> Brakuje, bo jest rozkradane przez banderowców „Latem ubiegłego roku
>> ukraiński rząd przeznaczył 1,68 mld hrywien (równowartość ponad 200 mln
>> złotych) na zakup m.in. generatorów prądu, niezbędnych w warunkach
>> nieustających rosyjskich ostrzałów infrastruktury krytycznej. Szereg
>> urzędników, zarówno z władz centralnych, jak i regionalnych, postanowił
>> na tym zarobić.
>
> Kanalie zdarzaja sie w kazdym narodzie - patrz Zenon probujacy
> przechwycic darowizny dla bezdomnych:
>
> "Jestem bezdomny nie mam pieniędzy" "Podeślesz trochę?"
> Aleksander vel Sandra vel Zexon

oferowales zydom na rozpetanie wojny ?

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:30:05 -0700 (PDT), Basia wrote:

> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 12:42:53 PM UTC-7, Piotr wrote:
>> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:26:39 AM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
>>
>> > Niesposob wiedziec co sie na Ukrainie dokladnie dzieje ale wyglada na
>> > to ze Polska moze wkrotce przyjsc na odsiecz i przylaczyc sie do
>> > wojny.
>> >
>> > Ukraincom zaczyna brakowac broni.
>>
>> Zadne tam "zaczyna", tylko brakuje od poczatku.
>
> "Brak wystarczajacej ilosci broni" to moze byc zarowno stan faktyczny
> jak i zwykla wymowka.
>
> Kazdy przegrywajacy wojne, badz to od poczatku badz to pozniej z
> latwoscia moze obwiniac swoje niepowodzenia na niewystarczajaca ilosc
> broni/sprzetu.
> Stad Basia przezornie pisze: "Niesposob wiedziec co sie dokladnie na
> Ukrainie dzieje... ."
>
> Prymitywni propagandysci nie zwracaja na takie szczegoly uwagi.
>
>> Zachod wysyla "too little too late" - nie wyslal tyle broni i zwlaszcza
>> amunicji artyleryjskiej, ile jest potrzeba do przejscia do
>> kontrofensywy. Kontroofensywa bez przewagi liczbnej, sprzetowej i
>> artyleryjskiej - jest skazana na porazke i duze straty w ludziach.
>> Dlatego wszystkim niecierpliwym na Zachodzie - no kiedy w koncu
>> przejdziecie do kontrofensywy - pytanie czy dostarczyliscie
>> wystarczajaco wiele amunicji, i broni ktora jest do tego potrzebna.
>
> Brzmi jak wymowka.
>
> Ukraincow NATO przygotowywalo do wojny od 2014 roku. Merkel, a pozniej
> i Macron, przyznali ze Umowy Minskie byly oszustwem ktorego zamiarem
> bylo kupienie czasu na zbrojenie Ukrancow. Wiec NATO przez 8 lat
> przygotowywalo Ukraine do wojny z Rosja a pozniej caly czas narzekania
> na braki?
>
>> No, ale nie ma tego zlego ... - przynajmniej wyszlo skad nasz Zwolan
>> czerpie inspiracje:
>>
>> > https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275
>
> Co zlego propagandysta dopatrzyl sie w powyzszym przekazie, czy po
> prostu czlowiek od Jaskota probuje dorabiac gebe??
>
> TASS podalo za wywiadem udzielonym przez Zelenskiego najwiekszej
> japonskiej gazecie (https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp)
> a media na Zachodzie milcza, co aprobuje usadowioona w Kanadzie agentura
> od Jaskota.
>
> TOKYO, March 25. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has
> admitted that his country's army is currently unable to launch a
> counteroffensive in the east, explaining this by a lack of necessary
> weapons, according to his interview with Japan's largest newspaper, the
> Yomiuri Shimbun.
>
> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275
>
> Basia (Ona/Jej)

czerwony palant chcial sie pochwalic ze wie skad ta wiadomosc i szybko
zapisal w kartotece

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 5:30:37 PM UTC-7, Olga Trela wrote:
> "Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]".
>
> You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...

Podany byl TASS bo polskie inne zachodnie
media najwyrazniej przemilczaly wywiad
Zelenskiego w najwiekszej japonskiej gazecie.

> Klasyczne myslenie PRLowskiego komucha - broni Rosji jak matki, za wszystko wini USA
i Zachod i wierzy tylko oficjalnej propagandzie rosyjskie (agencja TASS) - patrz Ed Zwolan otwierajacy ten watek aby upowszeczhnic swoje zrodlow wiedzy:
> https://tass.com/military-operation-in-ukraine/1594275
zrodlo, ktoremu nawet po roku brutalnej wojny - slowo "wojna" nie przejdzie przez gardlo
("military-operation-in-ukraine").

Olga Trela lepiej powie dlaczego nie zarejestrowala
sie gdy rozpoczela w Kanadzie podzegawcza
medialna dzialalnosc agenturalna -agenta obcego
wplywu?

"Later I spent many hours preparing another contribution- "Support this war.." At this time the Gazette carried almost exclusively pro-peace stories, there were peace marches in Halifax and peace actions at Dal. Then, nobody foresaw the pro-war fashion ascending in the U.S. Thus my article would have been quite unique at the time. Yet I also could face the anger of peace activists, so the Gazette protected me again. After waiting a week I was told that my article would be in the following issue. It wasn't (…)"

Strona 8:
Mother Gazette
https://dalspace.library.dal.ca/bitstream/handle/10222/52130/dalhousiegazette_volume124_issue4_september_26_1991.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

------------
Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:14:47 PM UTC-7, Basia wrote:

> Podany byl TASS bo polskie inne zachodnie
> media najwyrazniej przemilczaly wywiad
> Zelenskiego w najwiekszej japonskiej gazecie.

Co moze miec miejsce to ordynarny szantaz!

Biden postawil zarowno swoja jak i calego
USA reputacje na szale tego konfliktu a
gdy nie przyslal Zelenskiemu wystarczajacej
forsy ten mogl zaczac sie odgrazac ze Ukraina
nie bedzie walczyc,

....nie bedzie prowadzic kontr-ofensywy!

Zelenski na poczatek i ostroznie wybral
japonska gazete by tam pierwsze takie
publiczne proklamacje robic z daleka od
zachodniej publiki. Jezeli Biden szybko
nie przysle pieniedzy moja teza jest ze
Zelenski wkrotce zaczac udzielac podobnych
wywiadow prasie europejskiej i amerykanskiej
ostrzegac ze Ukraina moze dalej nie walczyc
juz.

Basia od dawna bierze pod uwage mozliwosc
ze Ruska agentura moze chciec uwiklac NATO
w goraca wojne z Rosja, ...w wojne ktora
NATO-USA nie byly by w stanie wygrac.

W takim wypadku nie zdziwila bym sie
gdyby sie okazalo ze Zelenski to czlowiek
Putynia/KGB'owcow. Wiele ludzi sie dzisiaj
zastanawia dlaczego Putyn Go oszczedza,
ani razu nie zatakowal siedziby Zelenskiego
w Kijowie, itp.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:44:47 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 5:30:37 PM UTC-7, Olga Trela wrote:
>
> > "Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]".
> >
> > You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...
> Podany byl TASS bo polskie inne zachodnie
> media najwyrazniej przemilczaly wywiad

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65075952
https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-adviser-pours-cold-water-looming-ukraine-counteroffensive-1789684

Rzeczywiscie - ogluszajace to przemilczenie - kto by slyszal na Zachodzie o BBC czy Newsweeku
- nic dziwnego ze Edward Zwolan jak przystalo na PRLowski komucha - broni Rosji, wini USA
i wierzy tylko oficjalnej rosyjskiej propagandzie rosyjskiej agencji TASS, ktorej to agencji mimo dziesiatek? setek? tysiecy zabitych - ciagle przez gardlo nie przechodzi slowo "wojna",
a tylko ... "military operation".

Zrodlo ktorego tezy nasz Zwolan promuje i uwiarygadnia powolujac sie na nie na scp.
I jak przystalo na komucha - uwaza swoje wchodzenie Rosji w dupe za jak najbardziej naturalne:
"Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]". Edward Zwolan

You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...

> Olga Trela lepiej powie dlaczego nie zarejestrowala

jak poprzednio:

My name is Piotr Trela. Unlike Edward Zwolan:
- I have never denied my name, Edward Zwolan does,
- nobody ever posted on this group from "Olga Trela" - there are hundreds ? thousands? posts from the account of "Edward Zwolan", with whom "Basia" shares the profession, place of work, place of living and biography - living in Poland until mid-1980s, attended school there and got permission for the Communist political police to leave Poland for the US.
- I have never pretended to be a woman, Edward Zwolan does: he talks about himself in
as "Basia", uses feminine form of Polish words, and puts "She/Her" after his "signature".

And, no Edward Zwolan is not a transwoman - in fact he makes a MOCKERY of the trans women,
and by doing so - plays straight into the hands of _transphobes_:
- the true trans women always have considered themselves women, by accident of biology born in the "wrong", male, body. So when they make the transition - they do it to return to what they always felt they were - a woman.
- Ed Zwolan is the opposite - in an earlier post he pronounced the benefits of the high-meat diet - because it helps to keep his ... testosterone high and he ...."adores [his] testosterone", I quote:
" Basia zas uwielbia testosteron. " Bez testosteronu zycie jest pozbawione polotu, wiec potrzebne jest jednak to mieso w diecie."

High levels of male hormone probably is not the first choice for the real trans women to "adore"
Therefore, Edward Zwolan, considers himslef a virile MALE, and only PRETENDS to be
a woman.
And he is not worried that by doing so he plays right into the hands of the right-wing transphobes
- for whom being a transwoman is a frivolous CHOICE, done for sexual gratification, and/or
under the influence of the "LGBT propaganda". Since true trans woman say it was not their CHOICE- they were BORN this way - then the "LGBT propaganda" concept, in which the devious LBGT people try to "corrupt" vulnerable youth into becoming LGBT - FALLS APART.

So if Mr. Zwolan with his "Basia She/Her" persona didn't exist, the transphobes would have
to invent him - so they could say: look, the trans people are all degenerates and FRAUDS
like that Ed Zwolan guy, who dresses up as a woman (""Basia (She/Her)"), yet he "adores [his] testosterone"

See also Edward Zwolan about the sexual molestation of women - about the
German women who reported sexual assaults on the way to 2015 New Year's Eve celebrations:
- "depraved German bitches",
- "whores",
- "German whores in search of colored penises"

And one of the signs of their "depravation" to Ed Zwolan was that they ... dared to travel by train unaccompanied by men! Imagine that! For this, our Edward Zwolan proposed to penalize them with harsh fines, to publicly whip them for... their depravity, and to teach them modesty by forcing them to wear ... hijabs:
https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/Y3H8SZQXREU/m/vxRRDZWZEAAJ

Does this sound as something a Western WOMAN would have posted?

==Piotr Trela

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:02:12 PM UTC-7, Olga Trela wrote:
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:44:47 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 5:30:37 PM UTC-7, Olga Trela wrote:
> >
> > > "Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]".
> > >
> > > You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...
> > Podany byl TASS bo polskie inne zachodnie
> > media najwyrazniej przemilczaly wywiad
> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65075952
> https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-adviser-pours-cold-water-looming-ukraine-counteroffensive-1789684
>
> Rzeczywiscie - ogluszajace to przemilczenie - kto by slyszal na Zachodzie o BBC czy Newsweeku
> - nic dziwnego ze Edward Zwolan jak przystalo na PRLowski komucha - broni Rosji, wini USA
> i wierzy tylko oficjalnej rosyjskiej propagandzie rosyjskiej agencji TASS, ktorej to agencji mimo dziesiatek? setek? tysiecy zabitych - ciagle przez gardlo nie przechodzi slowo "wojna",
> a tylko ... "military operation".
> Zrodlo ktorego tezy nasz Zwolan promuje i uwiarygadnia powolujac sie na nie na scp.
> I jak przystalo na komucha - uwaza swoje wchodzenie Rosji w dupe za jak najbardziej naturalne:
> "Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]". Edward Zwolan
> You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...
> > Olga Trela lepiej powie dlaczego nie zarejestrowala
> jak poprzednio:
>
> My name is Piotr Trela. Unlike Edward Zwolan:
> - I have never denied my name, Edward Zwolan does,
> - nobody ever posted on this group from "Olga Trela" - there are hundreds ? thousands? posts from the account of "Edward Zwolan", with whom "Basia" shares the profession, place of work, place of living and biography - living in Poland until mid-1980s, attended school there and got permission for the Communist political police to leave Poland for the US.
> - I have never pretended to be a woman, Edward Zwolan does: he talks about himself in
> as "Basia", uses feminine form of Polish words, and puts "She/Her" after his "signature".

Where is your proof that these persons
are the same, Olga Trela?

Please show when or where Basia has
signed as Edward Zwolan or Basia has
ever posted as Edward, ...present any
real evidence that Basia is Edward.

You have just convinced yourself similarly
to Bobrowski beore you, that anyone writing
in Polish from Reno must be Edward Zwolan (!)
and that you have been conversing with
Edward for years now. You keep believing
your fantasy and keep repeating your nonsense
as if it were true despite being informed otherwise.
Bobrowski has been doing the same for
years despite being informed of the
misidentification.

Not every person writing from Reno is
Edward Zwolan, certainly not Basia ...just like
not every person writing in Polish from
St.John's Newfunland must be Piotr Trela.

I have been trying to make you understand
that by Olga's example but you seem not accept
the possibility, and reality, or are just engaded
in purposeful misidentification.

Basia (Ona/Jej)

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 8:02:12 PM UTC-7, Olga Trela wrote:
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:44:47 PM UTC-2:30, Basia wrote:
> > On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 5:30:37 PM UTC-7, Olga Trela wrote:
> >
> > > "Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]".
> > >
> > > You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...
> > Podany byl TASS bo polskie inne zachodnie
> > media najwyrazniej przemilczaly wywiad
> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65075952
> https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-adviser-pours-cold-water-looming-ukraine-counteroffensive-1789684
>
> Rzeczywiscie - ogluszajace to przemilczenie - kto by slyszal na Zachodzie o BBC czy Newsweeku
> - nic dziwnego ze Edward Zwolan jak przystalo na PRLowski komucha - broni Rosji, wini USA
> i wierzy tylko oficjalnej rosyjskiej propagandzie rosyjskiej agencji TASS, ktorej to agencji mimo dziesiatek? setek? tysiecy zabitych - ciagle przez gardlo nie przechodzi slowo "wojna",
> a tylko ... "military operation".
> Zrodlo ktorego tezy nasz Zwolan promuje i uwiarygadnia powolujac sie na nie na scp.
> I jak przystalo na komucha - uwaza swoje wchodzenie Rosji w dupe za jak najbardziej naturalne:
> "Co zlego dopatrzyl sie [w powolywaniu sie i uwiarygadnianiu rosyjskiego organou panstwowej propagandy (agencja TASS)]". Edward Zwolan
> You can take a boy out of the Communism, but apparently you can't take the Communism out of the boy ...
> > Olga Trela lepiej powie dlaczego nie zarejestrowala
> jak poprzednio:
>
> My name is Piotr Trela. Unlike Edward Zwolan:
> - I have never denied my name, Edward Zwolan does,
> - nobody ever posted on this group from "Olga Trela" - there are hundreds ? thousands? posts from the account of "Edward Zwolan", with whom "Basia" shares the profession, place of work, place of living and biography - living in Poland until mid-1980s, attended school there and got permission for the Communist political police to leave Poland for the US.
> - I have never pretended to be a woman, Edward Zwolan does: he talks about himself in
> as "Basia", uses feminine form of Polish words, and puts "She/Her" after his "signature".
>
> And, no Edward Zwolan is not a transwoman - in fact he makes a MOCKERY of the trans women,
> and by doing so - plays straight into the hands of _transphobes_:
> - the true trans women always have considered themselves women, by accident of biology born in the "wrong", male, body. So when they make the transition - they do it to return to what they always felt they were - a woman.
> - Ed Zwolan is the opposite - in an earlier post he pronounced the benefits of the high-meat diet - because it helps to keep his ... testosterone high and he ...."adores [his] testosterone", I quote:
> " Basia zas uwielbia testosteron. " Bez testosteronu zycie jest pozbawione polotu, wiec potrzebne jest jednak to mieso w diecie."
>
> High levels of male hormone probably is not the first choice for the real trans women to "adore"
> Therefore, Edward Zwolan, considers himslef a virile MALE, and only PRETENDS to be
> a woman.
> And he is not worried that by doing so he plays right into the hands of the right-wing transphobes
> - for whom being a transwoman is a frivolous CHOICE, done for sexual gratification, and/or
> under the influence of the "LGBT propaganda". Since true trans woman say it was not their CHOICE- they were BORN this way - then the "LGBT propaganda" concept, in which the devious LBGT people try to "corrupt" vulnerable youth into becoming LGBT - FALLS APART.
>
> So if Mr. Zwolan with his "Basia She/Her" persona didn't exist, the transphobes would have
> to invent him - so they could say: look, the trans people are all degenerates and FRAUDS
> like that Ed Zwolan guy, who dresses up as a woman (""Basia (She/Her)"), yet he "adores [his] testosterone"
>
> See also Edward Zwolan about the sexual molestation of women - about the
> German women who reported sexual assaults on the way to 2015 New Year's Eve celebrations:
> - "depraved German bitches",
> - "whores",
> - "German whores in search of colored penises"
>
> And one of the signs of their "depravation" to Ed Zwolan was that they .... dared to travel by train unaccompanied by men! Imagine that! For this, our Edward Zwolan proposed to penalize them with harsh fines, to publicly whip them for... their depravity, and to teach them modesty by forcing them to wear ... hijabs:
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/Y3H8SZQXREU/m/vxRRDZWZEAAJ
>
> Does this sound as something a Western WOMAN would have posted?
>
> ===
> Piotr Trela

Numerous English language paragraphs about
side issues- identity of Basia, but no answer to
questions asked. So typical.

Did you register Mr. Trela as an agent of foreign
influence when you started your campaign
of swaying Canadian public opinion, only 3 weeks
after arriving from Communist Poland as a budding
scholar from the famous Red University- Szczecin
University.

Did you later inform Canada's immigration
authorities, naturalization services of your
un-registered foreign agent activities in
Canada?

Why not?

Piotr's fabrications, misqotations and manipulations
bear resemblance to ways that communists fabricated
all sorts of fake evidence against people during Polish
People's Republic.

Piotr Trela himself may be evading Polish law regarding
de-communisation and "lustration procedures"
and one of his parents might have been none
other than Urszula Chmielewska-Trela a communist
procurator during Martial Law, working in Szczecin,
Poland, Piotr Trela's hometown.

Ad. 1) Polish authorities suggest the existence
of several thousand former SB informants
in today’s academic circles in Poland,
where Piotr Trela during the period of
communist Martial Law, or shortly thereafter,
has started his professional career.

https://www.wprost.pl/edukacja/10165250/nowe-przepisy-o-lustracji-na-uczelniach-moga-dotyczyc-nawet-kilku-tysiecy-osob.html

Science in Poland PAP (auto-generated translation below)

New regulations on lustration at universities. "They may concern even several thousand people"

The new regulations on lustration at universities may be felt by even several thousand people who cooperated with the security services during the Polish People's Republic - Deputy Minister of Science and Higher Education Piotr Müller said in an interview with PAP. In his opinion, universities need decommunization.

The Law on Higher Education and Science (Constitution for Science, Law 2.0), in force since October 1, 2018, provides for changes to the provisions on vetting at universities. Pursuant to the Act, a person who "did not work from July 22, 1944 to July 31, 1990, may become a member of the university council, a member of the university senate, a member of the Science Evaluation Committee, the Scientific Excellence Council, the Polish Accreditation Committee, or a titular professor" and did not serve in state security agencies (...) and did not cooperate with these authorities ”.

"Decommunization" at universities

Deputy Minister of Science and Higher Education Piotr Müller in an interview with PAP called these provisions "decommunizing". When asked whether decommunization is still needed at universities, he replied: "Without a doubt." He assessed that the introduction of new regulations "may be a stage of a delayed, but still settlement of, issues related to the functioning of the People's Republic of Poland".

When asked how many people the new regulations will make their academic career difficult, Piotr Müller commented: “We do not have such data, because we do not have a way to collect it. But I think it could even affect several thousand people in the country. " - The latest research by the Institute of National Remembrance shows that the environments at universities were very infiltrated and there were many people there who were secret collaborators - said the deputy minister.

The provisions related to vetting are to prevent the performance of important functions in higher education not only by lustration liars, but in general all persons who collaborated with the SB or were functionaries of these services. Persons applying for the positions listed in the Act will have to submit a lustration declaration. - If someone in such a statement writes that he was a secret SB officer, he will not be able to perform these important functions - said the deputy minister. And he added that if someone makes a false statement, they will be breaking the law.

He recalled that so far only a small group of people who applied for managerial positions were obliged to submit lustration declarations at universities. - There was not even awareness of the content of this lustration declaration - he assessed. According to him, the new regulations will result in the fact that people who cooperated with the SB will not want to perform managerial functions at all.