True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Friday, 25 February 2022 at 16:35:43 UTC-4, Bill wrote:> John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:09:15 -0800 (PST), True North > > <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Thursday, 24 February 2022 at 21:42:34 UTC-4, Bill wrote: > >>> True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> On Thursday, 24 February 2022 at 21:05:11 UTC-4, Bill wrote: > >>>>> Mr Robot <robot@mr_robot.com> wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 02:23:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill > >>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 21:47:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill > >>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 16:44:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill > >>>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/22/2022 11:47 AM, Bill wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 5:47:25 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:23:21 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bruce2...@gmail.com>
wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOC: Everyone Should Get Their Student Loans Canceled > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fortune Magazine - Feb 16, 2022 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://fortune.com/education/business/articles/2022/02/16/aoc-everyone-should-get-their-student-loans-canceled-including-harvard-and-yale-grads/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cancelling student debt wouldn't bother me if > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they reimbursed the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money the rest of us paid to the schools. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, Wayne? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go along with cancelling or reducing the interest on student > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loans. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==Both of my sons were in college at the same time at $40K/year each. We > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid for most of it out of pocket so loan debt was never an issue but we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely felt the cash pinch. They both put themselves through > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduate school on student loans but that has turned out to be a good > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> investment for them. They've repaid all of their grad school loans > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no help from me. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion the big problem with student loan debt stems from too many > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> students racking up debt with no thought given to future value of their > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> education. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also the fact we let them run up huge debt for low pay jobs. Articles last > >>>>>>>>>>>>> year about some girl with $123k student debt. For an English degree and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> masters. She never worked in college. Used the summers and any leftover > >>>>>>>>>>>>> money to tour Europe to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? broaden her education ?. And we let them do this, we are enablers. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I never have understood the reliance on student debt to go to school. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I went ... for many years ... on the "pay as you go plan." Got help > >>>>>>>>>>>> via the GI Bill but it didn't pay for everything so I had to balance > >>>>>>>>>>>> school costs with all my other financial responsibilities. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Took a few years but accrued any outstanding education debt. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> NCR paid part of my tuition, but not books. So I worked full time and to
ok > >>>>>>>>>>> near 10 years to finish. Did have a couple breaks for military, etc. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Why didn't you get some VA GI Bill help? They paid for one master's > >>>>>>>>>> and most of another for me. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Was a reservist with 10 months active. Probably could have got some, but > >>>>>>>>> most of mine was books cost as NCR paid 80% of tuition. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A lot depends on what year we are talking about. VA benefit > >>>>>>>> eligibility changed a lot since 1971 when I was looking. > >>>>>>>> I had over 12 months continuous active (by 11 days). > >>>>>>>> Education was based on your active duty time. > >>>>>>>> I could get enough education to get a free Heathkit GR25 TV on a "TV > >>>>>>>> repair and electronics" course but not a 2 year degree from a college. > >>>>>>>> They did offer me a mortgage but I did as well in the private sector > >>>>>>>> because I had the one third down. > >>>>>>>> I was never offered medical. In fact in 71 that was just for service > >>>>>>>> connected ailments and retired. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I finished Feb, 1971 with my 6 years. You needed the 12 months active. > >>>>>>> I misse
d that by transferring from the 349 MAW at Hamilton AFB 5 days > >>>>>>> before the general in charge volunteered the unit for,active duty when the > >>>>>>> Pueblo was seized. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Did you run out of toilets to clean? > >>>>>> > >>>>> That?s True North. I fixed radars. You should not have run your microwave > >>>>> oven with the door open. Did not do good things for your brain. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Nor did standing close to an operating radar array. > >>>> You certainly are living proof of that. > >>>> > >>> Actually the antenna was on the roof of the building. Airborne radars. > >>> We were nowhere near the antenna. We just hooked up the waveguide and > >>> looked at the return picture on the scope. We knew the radar was accurate > >>> when we got the return from Mt. Diablo and the iron bridge at Rio Vista in > >>> the correct place. I never got hit with the radar beam, but a couple got > >>> hit in the hand for the waveguide connection. Bad wound as it takes > >>> forever to heal from being cooked internally. Ground radars were much > >>> more dangerous. Most of ours were 50Kw at a 2% duty cycle. Were > >>> transport airplanes, not the high power targeting radars o
f fighters. > >>> Maybe you should have stood closer, as then you to could have maybe gotten > >>> a degree that let you have a decent career. > >> > >> > >> > >> Say what... I think you mean too not "to". > > > > And how many toilet lids smacked you in the head, Donnie? > >> LolYou like that toilet humour Swill?No wonder you talk like your mouth is full of crap.

Spoken like a TRUE NORTH crap expert.
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Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet?

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