Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre management,
several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.

That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for fundamental
reasons.

On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre management,
> several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>

Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...

....and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been cut by
debris".

Now, please... ...carry on.

> That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for fundamental
> reasons.

On 6/7/2021 11:17 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
>> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre management,
>> several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>>
>
> Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...
>
> ...and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been cut by
> debris".
>
> Now, please... ...carry on.
>
>
> > That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for fundamental
> > reasons.

The several that mattered. No team acknowledgement of debris, so...

Over to Pirelli to cover for their shyte tyres and asses.

Just one aspect of the pathetic rules and state F1 is in.

On 2021-06-07 9:29 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 11:17 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre management,
>>> several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>>>
>>
>> Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...
>>
>> ...and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been cut
>> by debris".
>>
>> Now, please... ...carry on.
>>
>>
>>  > That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for fundamental
>>  > reasons.
>
>
> The several that mattered. No team acknowledgement of debris, so...

"Several" was deliberately misleading.

It was TWO.

Lack of team acknowledgement when the tires had yet to be examined means...

....precisely nothing.

>
> Over to Pirelli to cover for their shyte tyres and asses.

Pirelli builds the tires that the FIA asks for.

>
> Just one aspect of the pathetic rules and state F1 is in.

I agree that F1 has problems.

Subjective rules.

Rules that prevent racers from simply racing all out...

....yup. Problems.

But until we actually KNOW what happened, let's leave off the bullshit,
shall we?

On 6/7/2021 1:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 9:29 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 6/7/2021 11:17 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre
>>>> management, several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...
>>>
>>> ...and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been cut
>>> by debris".
>>>
>>> Now, please... ...carry on.
>>>
>>>
>>>  > That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for fundamental
>>>  > reasons.
>>
>>
>> The several that mattered. No team acknowledgement of debris, so...
>
> "Several" was deliberately misleading.
>
> It was TWO.
>
> Lack of team acknowledgement when the tires had yet to be examined means...
>
> ...precisely nothing.
>
>>
>> Over to Pirelli to cover for their shyte tyres and asses.
>
> Pirelli builds the tires that the FIA asks for.
>
>>
>> Just one aspect of the pathetic rules and state F1 is in.
>
> I agree that F1 has problems.
>
> Subjective rules.
>
> Rules that prevent racers from simply racing all out...
>
> ...yup. Problems.
>
> But until we actually KNOW what happened, let's leave off the bullshit,
> shall we?

That'd be a first for you, but sure.

On 2021-06-07 10:25 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 1:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 9:29 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2021 11:17 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre
>>>>> management, several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...
>>>>
>>>> ...and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been
>>>> cut by debris".
>>>>
>>>> Now, please... ...carry on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  > That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for fundamental
>>>>  > reasons.
>>>
>>>
>>> The several that mattered. No team acknowledgement of debris, so...
>>
>> "Several" was deliberately misleading.
>>
>> It was TWO.
>>
>> Lack of team acknowledgement when the tires had yet to be examined
>> means...
>>
>> ...precisely nothing.
>>
>>>
>>> Over to Pirelli to cover for their shyte tyres and asses.
>>
>> Pirelli builds the tires that the FIA asks for.
>>
>>>
>>> Just one aspect of the pathetic rules and state F1 is in.
>>
>> I agree that F1 has problems.
>>
>> Subjective rules.
>>
>> Rules that prevent racers from simply racing all out...
>>
>> ...yup. Problems.
>>
>> But until we actually KNOW what happened, let's leave off the
>> bullshit, shall we?
>
>
> That'd be a first for you, but sure.
>

The amaz...

....no.

The utterly predictable thing is you think that was clever.

On 2021-06-07 10:25 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 1:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 9:29 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2021 11:17 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre
>>>>> management, several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...
>>>>
>>>> ...and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been
>>>> cut by debris".
>>>>
>>>> Now, please... ...carry on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  > That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for fundamental
>>>>  > reasons.
>>>
>>>
>>> The several that mattered. No team acknowledgement of debris, so...
>>
>> "Several" was deliberately misleading.
>>
>> It was TWO.
>>
>> Lack of team acknowledgement when the tires had yet to be examined
>> means...
>>
>> ...precisely nothing.
>>
>>>
>>> Over to Pirelli to cover for their shyte tyres and asses.
>>
>> Pirelli builds the tires that the FIA asks for.
>>
>>>
>>> Just one aspect of the pathetic rules and state F1 is in.
>>
>> I agree that F1 has problems.
>>
>> Subjective rules.
>>
>> Rules that prevent racers from simply racing all out...
>>
>> ...yup. Problems.
>>
>> But until we actually KNOW what happened, let's leave off the
>> bullshit, shall we?
>
>
> That'd be a first for you, but sure.
>

'Pirelli suspects the two tyre failures at Sunday's Azerbaijan Grand
Prix were caused by debris, but was not willing to draw a firm
conclusion until a full investigation has taken place at its base in
Milan this week.

....

The similarities of the two accidents raised questions over the reason
for the failures, but a cut found on the left rear tyre from Lewis
Hamilton's car could provide the answer.

The cut on Hamilton's tyre was not deep enough to result in a failure,
but suggests debris somewhere on the track damaged the tyres on the cars
of Stroll and Verstappen.

"We found a cut on the inside shoulder of the rear left tyre used by
Hamilton in the same stint.

"The cut was quite deep and big -- probably 6-7 cm -- but not cutting
the construction, so the tyre was still in one piece."

"Just the tread is cut [on Hamilton's tyre], and when there was the red
flag and Lewis came to the pit lane and changed the tyres we were able
to find the cut."

"The left rear is not the most stressed in Baku, as talking about the
tyres it is obviously rear right [that is most stressed]."

"This is the preliminary investigation."

Isola said the debris theory was backed up by the nature of the
failures, which happened suddenly and with no warning from tyre pressure
sensors on the cars.

"There was no sign, or any warning, according to the teams," he added.
"We have to receive the telemetry from them, but they told me there was
no warning, no vibration, nothing to think there could be something in
the tyres."

"Consider that the tyres fitted on the cars that crashed were back in
the garage and in our fitting area just minutes ago, we need a bit of
time to analyse them -- I don't want to give any preliminary conclusion."

"But it seems it is a cut due to debris. It is not a more-stressed tyre
and we have evidence of another cut in the same position [on Hamilton's
tyre]."

"Both the accidents happened on more or less the same part of the
circuit and a few laps difference, so we have other cars with the same
number of laps, same tyres, without any issues."

<https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/31577670/pirelli-suspects-debris-caused-tyre-failures-baku-full-investigation-follow>

But... ...hey.

What are actual facts and logic compared to your "shyte", right?

On 6/7/2021 1:29 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 10:25 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 6/7/2021 1:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-07 9:29 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2021 11:17 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre
>>>>>> management, several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been
>>>>> cut by debris".
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, please... ...carry on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  > That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for
>>>>> fundamental
>>>>>  > reasons.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The several that mattered. No team acknowledgement of debris, so...
>>>
>>> "Several" was deliberately misleading.
>>>
>>> It was TWO.
>>>
>>> Lack of team acknowledgement when the tires had yet to be examined
>>> means...
>>>
>>> ...precisely nothing.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Over to Pirelli to cover for their shyte tyres and asses.
>>>
>>> Pirelli builds the tires that the FIA asks for.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just one aspect of the pathetic rules and state F1 is in.
>>>
>>> I agree that F1 has problems.
>>>
>>> Subjective rules.
>>>
>>> Rules that prevent racers from simply racing all out...
>>>
>>> ...yup. Problems.
>>>
>>> But until we actually KNOW what happened, let's leave off the
>>> bullshit, shall we?
>>
>>
>> That'd be a first for you, but sure.
>>
>
> The amaz...
>
> ...no.
>
> The utterly predictable thing is you think that was clever.

Hook, line and sinker. <Plonk>

On 2021-06-07 10:48 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 1:29 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 10:25 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2021 1:11 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-07 9:29 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2021 11:17 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 7:43 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> Say what one will about different chassis setups and tyre
>>>>>>> management, several '40 lap' shyte softs destructed at 30 laps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where by "several" you mean "precisely two"...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and by "destructed" you mean "may have failed or may have been
>>>>>> cut by debris".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, please... ...carry on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  > That said, it was an entertaining finish, though not for
>>>>>> fundamental
>>>>>>  > reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The several that mattered. No team acknowledgement of debris, so...
>>>>
>>>> "Several" was deliberately misleading.
>>>>
>>>> It was TWO.
>>>>
>>>> Lack of team acknowledgement when the tires had yet to be examined
>>>> means...
>>>>
>>>> ...precisely nothing.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Over to Pirelli to cover for their shyte tyres and asses.
>>>>
>>>> Pirelli builds the tires that the FIA asks for.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just one aspect of the pathetic rules and state F1 is in.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that F1 has problems.
>>>>
>>>> Subjective rules.
>>>>
>>>> Rules that prevent racers from simply racing all out...
>>>>
>>>> ...yup. Problems.
>>>>
>>>> But until we actually KNOW what happened, let's leave off the
>>>> bullshit, shall we?
>>>
>>>
>>> That'd be a first for you, but sure.
>>>
>>
>> The amaz...
>>
>> ...no.
>>
>> The utterly predictable thing is you think that was clever.
>
>
> Hook, line and sinker. <Plonk>

Gutless.

Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?

Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.

What can produce tyre cuts?

Feel free to provide a short list.

How many other tyres displayed cuts? Produced by what?

If you know. (You don't.)

First principles: This season has been punctuated by shyte tyres.

On 6/7/2021 1:41 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

> What are actual facts and logic compared to your "shyte", right?

On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>
> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>
> What can produce tyre cuts?

Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?

You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's and
Verstappen's cars, right?

>
> Feel free to provide a short list.
>
> How many other tyres displayed cuts? Produced by what?
>
> If you know. (You don't.)
>
> First principles: This season has been punctuated by shyte tyres.

First principles:

You lack anything resembling a clue.

You know.

You're run away like a gutless wimp.

>
>
> On 6/7/2021 1:41 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>
>> What are actual facts and logic compared to your "shyte", right?
>

On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>
>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>
>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>
> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>
> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's and
> Verstappen's cars, right?

Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte tyres?

Get a fucking clue, you clueless git.

On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>
>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>
>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>
>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>
>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's and
>> Verstappen's cars, right?
>
>
> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte tyres?

You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?

Surely you've heard of it?

>
> Get a fucking clue, you clueless git.

Get in a car and show what you can do, gutless.

On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>
>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>
>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>
>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>
>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's and
>>> Verstappen's cars, right?
>>
>>
>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte tyres?
>
> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>
> Surely you've heard of it?

Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?

And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.

Clueless fucking precision pedant.

On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>
>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>
>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's and
>>>> Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>
>>>
>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte tyres?
>>
>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>
>> Surely you've heard of it?
>
>
> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?

Certainly I have...

....that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.

>
> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.

Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch that
changes the brake bias to heat up the front.

THAT's relevant to this discussion.

Have you ever even been driven around a race track?

You've clearly never done it yourself.

On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>
>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's and
>>>>> Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte
>>>> tyres?
>>>
>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>
>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>
>>
>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>
> Certainly I have...
>
> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>

Nice try. Final answer?

>>
>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>
> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch that
> changes the brake bias to heat up the front.

Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?

> Have you ever even been driven around a race track?
>
> You've clearly never done it yourself.

And you would assert this, incorrectly, how?

You fucking pathetic pendant.

On 2021-06-07 1:36 p.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's
>>>>>> and Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte
>>>>> tyres?
>>>>
>>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>>
>>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>>
>> Certainly I have...
>>
>> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>>
>
> Nice try. Final answer?

Why would it matter?

Fact: two cars suffered left rear blow outs.

Fact: one other car was found to have a deep cut in the left rear tire.

>
>
>>>
>>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>>
>> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch that
>> changes the brake bias to heat up the front.
>
>
> Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?

Really? Where?

Quote it.

Because here's what I can quote. Lewis Hamilton and his race engineer on
team radio played during the F1 broadcast and speaking afterward:

'Hamilton, who said sorry to his team over the radio, pulled up in 15th
place as his 54-race run of finishing in the points came to an end.

He then asked: "Did I have the magic on?", to which his race engineer
replied: "Yeah, it looks like it was knocked back on".

Hamilton replied: "I could have sworn I switched it off."

Hamilton later added that he knocked the special switch - designed to
heat up tyres and brakes on the way to the grid - when battling with
race-winner Sergio Perez into turn one.

He said: "It was a humbling experience when we had worked so hard. At
the restart when Checo moved over, I clipped the switch and it switched
the brakes off and I went straight on.

"It is very hard to take and I am very sorry to the men and women in the
team, who worked so hard but we will come back. I had no idea it had
touched the button."'

But what would Lewis Hamilton know about it, right...

....I mean compared to the expert on everything F1 that you are?

:-)

>
>> Have you ever even been driven around a race track?
>>
>> You've clearly never done it yourself.
>
>
> And you would assert this, incorrectly, how?

You're not even attempting to make sense now.

>
> You fucking pathetic pendant.

You forgot CACC Formula F champion, second-fastest ever time around
Mission Raceway in an Formula F (including laps by a US SCCA Runoffs
champion)...

....and voted into the Race Drivers Committee by my peers as good enough
to instruct others.

What have you got, gutless?

:-)

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 3:39:35 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

> What have you got, gutless?
>
> :-)

Here he/she comes.
Same old weekly trolling.
And the queer ass smiley too.

On 2021-06-07 2:52 p.m., texas gate wrote:
> On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 3:39:35 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:
>
>> What have you got, gutless?
>>
>> :-)
>
> Here he/she comes.
> Same old weekly trolling.
> And the queer ass smiley too.
>

And here you come...

....still desperate for some form of attention.

Was that enough for you?

:-(

On 6/7/2021 5:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 1:36 p.m., News wrote:
>> On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's
>>>>>>> and Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte
>>>>>> tyres?
>>>>>
>>>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>>>
>>> Certainly I have...
>>>
>>> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>>>
>>
>> Nice try. Final answer?
>
> Why would it matter?
>
> Fact: two cars suffered left rear blow outs.
>
> Fact: one other car was found to have a deep cut in the left rear tire.
>
>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>>>
>>> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch that
>>> changes the brake bias to heat up the front.
>>
>>
>> Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?
>
> Really? Where?
>
> Quote it.
>
> Because here's what I can quote. Lewis Hamilton and his race engineer on
> team radio played during the F1 broadcast and speaking afterward:
>
> 'Hamilton, who said sorry to his team over the radio, pulled up in 15th
> place as his 54-race run of finishing in the points came to an end.
>

Not what you originally claimed. Par for the course with you, pedant.

I have my integrity, which is more than you have, puffer.

On 2021-06-08 6:55 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/7/2021 5:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-07 1:36 p.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's
>>>>>>>> and Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their shyte
>>>>>>> tyres?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>>>>
>>>> Certainly I have...
>>>>
>>>> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nice try. Final answer?
>>
>> Why would it matter?
>>
>> Fact: two cars suffered left rear blow outs.
>>
>> Fact: one other car was found to have a deep cut in the left rear tire.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch that
>>>> changes the brake bias to heat up the front.
>>>
>>>
>>> Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?
>>
>> Really? Where?
>>
>> Quote it.
>>
>> Because here's what I can quote. Lewis Hamilton and his race engineer
>> on team radio played during the F1 broadcast and speaking afterward:
>>
>> 'Hamilton, who said sorry to his team over the radio, pulled up in
>> 15th place as his 54-race run of finishing in the points came to an end.
>>
>
> Not what you originally claimed. Par for the course with you, pedant.

It is precisely what I originally claimed, liar.

But go ahead... ...put my words side by side with the quotes from
Hamilton (most of which you snipped; funny, huh?).

>
> I have my integrity, which is more than you have, puffer.

LOL!

On 6/8/2021 11:52 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-08 6:55 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 6/7/2021 5:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-07 1:36 p.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on Stroll's
>>>>>>>>> and Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their
>>>>>>>> shyte tyres?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly I have...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice try. Final answer?
>>>
>>> Why would it matter?
>>>
>>> Fact: two cars suffered left rear blow outs.
>>>
>>> Fact: one other car was found to have a deep cut in the left rear tire.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch
>>>>> that changes the brake bias to heat up the front.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?
>>>
>>> Really? Where?
>>>
>>> Quote it.
>>>
>>> Because here's what I can quote. Lewis Hamilton and his race engineer
>>> on team radio played during the F1 broadcast and speaking afterward:
>>>
>>> 'Hamilton, who said sorry to his team over the radio, pulled up in
>>> 15th place as his 54-race run of finishing in the points came to an end.
>>>
>>
>> Not what you originally claimed. Par for the course with you, pedant.
>
> It is precisely what I originally claimed, liar.
>

Ha! Like your 'racing line' claim. Variance rules.

> But go ahead... ...put my words side by side with the quotes from
> Hamilton (most of which you snipped; funny, huh?).
>
>>
>> I have my integrity, which is more than you have, puffer.
>
> LOL!

LMAO, pedant.

On 2021-06-08 9:18 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 11:52 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-08 6:55 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2021 5:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-07 1:36 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on
>>>>>>>>>> Stroll's and Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their
>>>>>>>>> shyte tyres?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Certainly I have...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice try. Final answer?
>>>>
>>>> Why would it matter?
>>>>
>>>> Fact: two cars suffered left rear blow outs.
>>>>
>>>> Fact: one other car was found to have a deep cut in the left rear tire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch
>>>>>> that changes the brake bias to heat up the front.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?
>>>>
>>>> Really? Where?
>>>>
>>>> Quote it.
>>>>
>>>> Because here's what I can quote. Lewis Hamilton and his race
>>>> engineer on team radio played during the F1 broadcast and speaking
>>>> afterward:
>>>>
>>>> 'Hamilton, who said sorry to his team over the radio, pulled up in
>>>> 15th place as his 54-race run of finishing in the points came to an
>>>> end.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not what you originally claimed. Par for the course with you, pedant.
>>
>> It is precisely what I originally claimed, liar.
>>
>
> Ha! Like your 'racing line' claim. Variance rules.

What about that claim, gutless?

I claimed--correctly--that it is normal that more than one driver might
encounter a surface condition that could cut a tire...

....because driver's all drive the racing line.

There is of course some variation, and depending on just where there was
a problem on the track, that might mean that only a few drivers
encounter it.

What is incontrovertible is that Lewis Hamilton's left rear tire was
CUT. It didn't fail, but it was definitely CUT.

Three cars, two failures: all involving the same tire.

>
>
>> But go ahead... ...put my words side by side with the quotes from
>> Hamilton (most of which you snipped; funny, huh?).

So you're too gutless to actually show your support for your claim.

Got it.

On 6/8/2021 12:44 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-06-08 9:18 a.m., News wrote:
>> On 6/8/2021 11:52 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-08 6:55 a.m., News wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2021 5:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-06-07 1:36 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on
>>>>>>>>>>> Stroll's and Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their
>>>>>>>>>> shyte tyres?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Certainly I have...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice try. Final answer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would it matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fact: two cars suffered left rear blow outs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fact: one other car was found to have a deep cut in the left rear
>>>>> tire.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch
>>>>>>> that changes the brake bias to heat up the front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Where?
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because here's what I can quote. Lewis Hamilton and his race
>>>>> engineer on team radio played during the F1 broadcast and speaking
>>>>> afterward:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Hamilton, who said sorry to his team over the radio, pulled up in
>>>>> 15th place as his 54-race run of finishing in the points came to an
>>>>> end.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not what you originally claimed. Par for the course with you, pedant.
>>>
>>> It is precisely what I originally claimed, liar.
>>>
>>
>> Ha! Like your 'racing line' claim. Variance rules.
>
> What about that claim, gutless?
>
> I claimed--correctly--that it is normal that more than one driver might
> encounter a surface condition that could cut a tire...
>
> ...because driver's all drive the racing line.
>
> There is of course some variation, and depending on just where there was
> a problem on the track, that might mean that only a few drivers
> encounter it.
>
> What is incontrovertible is that Lewis Hamilton's left rear tire was
> CUT. It didn't fail, but it was definitely CUT.

"Incontrovertable"! LMFAO!

You heard that from Pirelli, did you? (Before they burned the offending
self-destructing shyte tyre.)

Sure you did.

On 2021-06-08 9:52 a.m., News wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 12:44 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-06-08 9:18 a.m., News wrote:
>>> On 6/8/2021 11:52 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-08 6:55 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2021 5:39 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 1:36 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 4:18 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 12:12 p.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:59 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 11:46 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 2:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-06-07 10:58 a.m., News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we wait for (self-serving) Pirelli comment?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of the usual Canadian whinge/diatribe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What can produce tyre cuts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like the cut actually found on Hamilton's left rear?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You remember: the same tire as the ones that failed on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stroll's and Verstappen's cars, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Right? Like they all clipped the same sharp curb with their
>>>>>>>>>>> shyte tyres?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You get that there is this thing called "the racing line", right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Surely you've heard of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Surely, you've heard of variance there-about?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Certainly I have...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...that would be why only THREE cars had tire problems, not all 20.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice try. Final answer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would it matter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fact: two cars suffered left rear blow outs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fact: one other car was found to have a deep cut in the left rear
>>>>>> tire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And if not, variance in HAM's Turn one braking. LMFAO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah... ...he accidentally hit (or forgot to turn off) a switch
>>>>>>>> that changes the brake bias to heat up the front.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Claimed otherwise, elsewhere! But you know better, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? Where?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because here's what I can quote. Lewis Hamilton and his race
>>>>>> engineer on team radio played during the F1 broadcast and speaking
>>>>>> afterward:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Hamilton, who said sorry to his team over the radio, pulled up in
>>>>>> 15th place as his 54-race run of finishing in the points came to
>>>>>> an end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not what you originally claimed. Par for the course with you, pedant.
>>>>
>>>> It is precisely what I originally claimed, liar.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ha! Like your 'racing line' claim. Variance rules.
>>
>> What about that claim, gutless?
>>
>> I claimed--correctly--that it is normal that more than one driver
>> might encounter a surface condition that could cut a tire...
>>
>> ...because driver's all drive the racing line.
>>
>> There is of course some variation, and depending on just where there
>> was a problem on the track, that might mean that only a few drivers
>> encounter it.
>>
>> What is incontrovertible is that Lewis Hamilton's left rear tire was
>> CUT. It didn't fail, but it was definitely CUT.
>
> "Incontrovertable"! LMFAO!

Yup.

>
> You heard that from Pirelli, did you? (Before they burned the offending
> self-destructing shyte tyre.)

You know Pirelli "burned" a tire, do you?

How?

Because if you can't show how you know that, you're not just gutless.

You're a lying prick.

>
> Sure you did.

I first heard it from Pirelli...

....but it was confirmed by the Mercedes team:

'Both Max Verstappen and Lance Stroll saw their races end early when
their left-rear tyres failed at high speeds down the main straight.
Mercedes boss Toto Wolff confirmed Hamilton narrowly escaped a similar fate.

"We also found a cut on Lewis' left-rear tyre which was caused by
debris," Wolff told Sky Sports.'

So come up with yet another conspiracy theory, Gutless.