On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>
> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a dangerous and volatile place.
Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.

floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>
>>
>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>> dangerous and volatile place.
> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>

Details, details.

https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> >> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> >> dangerous and volatile place.
> > Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> >
>
> Details, details.
>
> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>
>
>
> --
> “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> liberal personality.” — Altie
We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are. Joe Biden can be and often is an idiot.

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:18:49 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> > >> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> > >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> > >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> > >> dangerous and volatile place.
> > > Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > > As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > > policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> > >
> >
> > Details, details.
> >
> > https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> > liberal personality.” — Altie
> We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are. Joe Biden can be and often is an idiot.
Oh yea, Here's where we are:

https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1500609585450729473?cxt=HBwWgoCy9fSdntMpAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>>
>>
>> Details, details.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
>> liberal personality.  Altie
> We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.

No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m

“Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a
global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would
still pay market prices for oil and gas.

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Details, details.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
>>> liberal personality.  Altie
>> We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.
>
> No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative.
> https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m

I misread the graph posting in the wee hours and yes in recent years it has
bounced around the zero line. But my point below still stands.

> “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a
> global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would
> still pay market prices for oil and gas.
>

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:04:16 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> >>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> >>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> >>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> >>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> >>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> >>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> >>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> >>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Details, details.
> >>>
> >>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> >>> liberal personality. Altie
> >> We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.
> >
> > No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative.
> > https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m
> I misread the graph posting in the wee hours and yes in recent years it has
> bounced around the zero line. But my point below still stands.
> > “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a
> > global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would
> > still pay market prices for oil and gas.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> liberal personality.” — Altie
Yes, we were

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_energy_independence#:~:text=In%20November%202019%2C%20the%20United,was%20the%20world's%20largest%20producer.

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:05:24 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:04:16 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > >>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> > >>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> > >>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> > >>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> > >>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> > >>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > >>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > >>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Details, details.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> > >>> liberal personality. Altie
> > >> We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.
> > >
> > > No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative.
> > > https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m
> > I misread the graph posting in the wee hours and yes in recent years it has
> > bounced around the zero line. But my point below still stands.
> > > “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a
> > > global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would
> > > still pay market prices for oil and gas.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> > liberal personality.” — Altie
> Yes, we were
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_energy_independence#:~:text=In%20November%202019%2C%20the%20United,was%20the%20world's%20largest%20producer.
to quote: "In November 2019, the United States became a net exporter of all oil products, including both refined petroleum products and crude oil.[5] By 2021 the US was the world's largest producer.[6]"

On 2022-03-07, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>
>
> Details, details.
>
> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>

Well, if Obama (and Biden) had approved it back when it would be
operating by now. Of course Warren Buffett and his railroad would have
been very displeased...

As far as number of leases, all leases are not created equal.

You really need a new conduit, Jennifer Rubin is a laughingstock.

--
Find the grain of truth in criticism, chew it, and swallow
it. -- anonymous

On 2022-03-07, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Details, details.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
>>> liberal personality.  Altie
>> We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.
>
> No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative.
> https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m

Your own chart shows they were net negative in 2020.

>
> “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a
> global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would
> still pay market prices for oil and gas.
>

--
Find the grain of truth in criticism, chew it, and swallow
it. -- anonymous

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> >> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> >> dangerous and volatile place.
> > Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> >
>
> Details, details.
>
> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

-TE

Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>>
>>
>> Details, details.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>
> IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
>
> -TE
>

It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
holding back US oil production.

https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

[…]

When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
producing.”

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Details, details.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>>
>> IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
>>
>> -TE
>>
>
> It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> holding back US oil production.
>
> https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
>
> Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
>
> […]
>
> When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> producing.”

That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other
exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that
type of behavior.

Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the
Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
the Athabasca is greatly reduced.

You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green
energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it
was one of the main factors.

--
Life isn't fair, but it's good. -- Regina Brett

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Details, details.
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> >
> > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
> >
> > -TE
> >
> It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> holding back US oil production.
>
> https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
>
> Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
>
> […]
>
> When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> producing.”
> --
> “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> liberal personality.” — Altie
It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game which is clouding his strategic thinking and decision making
https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/

Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>>>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>>>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>>>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Details, details.
>>>>
>>>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>>>
>>> IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
>>>
>>> -TE
>>>
>>
>> It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
>> holding back US oil production.
>>
>> https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
>>
>> Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
>> analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
>> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
>> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
>> 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
>>
>> […]
>>
>> When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
>> had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
>> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
>> producing.”
>
> That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other
> exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that
> type of behavior.
>
> Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the
> Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
> the Athabasca is greatly reduced.
>
> You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green
> energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it
> was one of the main factors.
>

In Canada gas is over $1/gal more than here, yet they would divert their
supply to us to keep our (lower) prices down? OK. If Keystone was the
reason they should have lower prices because of all the supply
theoretically trapped there.

You conservatives are obsessed with the Keystone pipeline only because you
see it as a political point. I don’t believe you really believe it’s some
magic talisman that would solve all energy issues like you imply.

Our energy companies can increase supply already without needing any
government policy changes. They are not producing what they can now. Like
other corporations oil companies are happy to produce less at higher
profit. I didn’t make that up. Analysts and the Exxon CEO have said so.

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> > >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> > >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> > >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> > >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> > >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Details, details.
> > >>
> > >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> > >
> > > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it.. Morans!
> > >
> > > -TE
> > >
> > It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> > holding back US oil production.
> >
> > https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
> >
> > Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> > analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> > community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> > proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> > 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
> >
> > […]
> >
> > When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> > call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> > had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> > more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> > producing.”
> > --
> > “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> > liberal personality.” — Altie
> It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game which is clouding his strategic thinking and decision making
> https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/

You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on with your nonessential car journey?

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
> > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> > > >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> > > >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> > > >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> > > >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> > > >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > > >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > > >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Details, details.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> > > >
> > > > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
> > > >
> > > > -TE
> > > >
> > > It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> > > holding back US oil production.
> > >
> > > https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
> > >
> > > Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> > > analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> > > community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> > > proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> > > 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
> > >
> > > […]
> > >
> > > When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> > > call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> > > had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> > > more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> > > producing.”
> > > --
> > > “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> > > liberal personality.” — Altie
> > It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game whi;ch is clouding his strategic thinking and decision making
> > https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/
> You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on with your nonessential car journey?
I guess I need to stop going to the bar every day ; - )

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Details, details.
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> >
> > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
> >
> > -TE
> >
> It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> holding back US oil production.
>
> https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
>
> Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
>
> […]
>
> When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> producing.”

RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)

When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.

If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower?
Everybody with a brane: Yes

-TE

"Shit is so fake that the minute an outsider took office we got cheap gas, cheap food,
became energy independent, no wars and focused on our country’s own issues.
Establishment hacks get back in and we have inflation, medical tyranny, world
war 3, need to take a mortgage for gas."

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:17:05 AM UTC-5, TE wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> > >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> > >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> > >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> > >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> > >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Details, details.
> > >>
> > >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> > >
> > > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it.. Morans!
> > >
> > > -TE
> > >
> > It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> > holding back US oil production.
> >
> > https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
> >
> > Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> > analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> > community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> > proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> > 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
> >
> > […]
> >
> > When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> > call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> > had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> > more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> > producing.”
> RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)
>
> When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.
>
> If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower?
> Everybody with a brane: Yes
>

How can something that was never even built still be online?

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:17:05 AM UTC-5, TE wrote:
> > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> > > >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> > > >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> > > >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> > > >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> > > >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > > >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > > >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Details, details.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> > > >
> > > > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
> > > >
> > > > -TE
> > > >
> > > It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> > > holding back US oil production.
> > >
> > > https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
> > >
> > > Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> > > analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> > > community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> > > proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> > > 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
> > >
> > > […]
> > >
> > > When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> > > call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> > > had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> > > more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> > > producing.”
> > RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)
> >
> > When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.
> >
> > If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower?
> > Everybody with a brane: Yes

> How can something that was never even built still be online?

Yep, I deserve to be slapped for that one.

I'm going to go with "Well, you know what I mean."

-TE

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
-1984

On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>>>>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>>>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>>>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>>>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>>>>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>>>>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>>>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Details, details.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>>>>
>>>> IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
>>>>
>>>> -TE
>>>>
>>>
>>> It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
>>> holding back US oil production.
>>>
>>> https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
>>>
>>> Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
>>> analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
>>> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
>>> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
>>> 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
>>>
>>> […]
>>>
>>> When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
>>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
>>> had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
>>> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
>>> producing.”
>>
>> That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other
>> exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that
>> type of behavior.
>>
>> Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the
>> Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
>> the Athabasca is greatly reduced.
>>
>> You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green
>> energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it
>> was one of the main factors.
>>
>
> In Canada gas is over $1/gal more than here, yet they would divert their
> supply to us to keep our (lower) prices down? OK. If Keystone was the
> reason they should have lower prices because of all the supply
> theoretically trapped there.

That is not the dynamic. They have much more supply of crude than
necessary, but not much refining capability. Also, their taxes are
much higher.

>
> You conservatives are obsessed with the Keystone pipeline only because you
> see it as a political point. I don’t believe you really believe it’s some
> magic talisman that would solve all energy issues like you imply.

It is one of many investments that change the environment. There is
no magic bullet.

You can't have your cake and eat it too -- either you support making
it more difficult to produce oil/gas/coal and own the result, or you
support enabling it.

> Our energy companies can increase supply already without needing any
> government policy changes. They are not producing what they can now.

So say you. If they won't produce it at these prices, I would argue
they can't.

> Like other corporations oil companies are happy to produce less at
> higher profit. I didn’t make that up. Analysts and the Exxon CEO
> have said so.

I agree. But they can't do that when competition increases. Witness
OPEC trying to get control of the crude market when Iran, Venezuela,
Russia, and Nigeria cheated on their targets.

--
Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
-- Karl Lehenbauer

On 2022-03-08, TE <randorwell@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:17:05 AM UTC-5, TE wrote:
>> > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>> > > Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
>> > > >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
>> > > >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
>> > > >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
>> > > >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
>> > > >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
>> > > >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
>> > > >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
>> > > >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Details, details.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>> > > >
>> > > > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
>> > > >
>> > > > -TE
>> > > >
>> > > It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
>> > > holding back US oil production.
>> > >
>> > > https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
>> > >
>> > > Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
>> > > analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
>> > > community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
>> > > proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
>> > > 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
>> > >
>> > > […]
>> > >
>> > > When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
>> > > call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
>> > > had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
>> > > more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
>> > > producing.”
>> > RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)
>> >
>> > When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.
>> >
>> > If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower?
>> > Everybody with a brane: Yes
>
>> How can something that was never even built still be online?
>
> Yep, I deserve to be slapped for that one.
>
> I'm going to go with "Well, you know what I mean."

It is true that if it was still being built gas prices would be lower.

--
For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. -- Dick Feynman

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 1:10:17 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <cons...@duxmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> >>>>> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> >>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> >>>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> >>>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> >>>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> >>>>>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> >>>>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> >>>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Details, details.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> >>>>
> >>>> IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
> >>>>
> >>>> -TE
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> >>> holding back US oil production.
> >>>
> >>> https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
> >>>
> >>> Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> >>> analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> >>> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> >>> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> >>> 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
> >>>
> >>> […]
> >>>
> >>> When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> >>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> >>> had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> >>> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> >>> producing.”
> >>
> >> That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other
> >> exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that
> >> type of behavior.
> >>
> >> Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the
> >> Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
> >> the Athabasca is greatly reduced.
> >>
> >> You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green
> >> energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it
> >> was one of the main factors.
> >>
> >
> > In Canada gas is over $1/gal more than here, yet they would divert their
> > supply to us to keep our (lower) prices down? OK. If Keystone was the
> > reason they should have lower prices because of all the supply
> > theoretically trapped there.
> That is not the dynamic. They have much more supply of crude than
> necessary, but not much refining capability. Also, their taxes are
> much higher.
> >
> > You conservatives are obsessed with the Keystone pipeline only because you
> > see it as a political point. I don’t believe you really believe it’s some
> > magic talisman that would solve all energy issues like you imply.
> It is one of many investments that change the environment. There is
> no magic bullet.
>
> You can't have your cake and eat it too -- either you support making
> it more difficult to produce oil/gas/coal and own the result, or you
> support enabling it.
> > Our energy companies can increase supply already without needing any
> > government policy changes. They are not producing what they can now.
> So say you. If they won't produce it at these prices, I would argue
> they can't.
> > Like other corporations oil companies are happy to produce less at
> > higher profit. I didn’t make that up. Analysts and the Exxon CEO
> > have said so.
> I agree. But they can't do that when competition increases. Witness
> OPEC trying to get control of the crude market when Iran, Venezuela,
> Russia, and Nigeria cheated on their targets.
> --
> Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
> -- Karl Lehenbauer
So from 2019 to 2021 the US had a net surplus of oil an refined product that we exported. The keystone was being built and then Biden get in office. His first act is to shut down the keystone pipeline as well as close all federal land to drilling and exploration. Had the pipeline been allowed to processed, it would have been ready at the end of this year to move Canadian crude to refineries in TX. More than enough to replace all Russian crude.
I understand cutting off Russian crude but it will only work to increase profit for them. The US needs, and I mean needs to open federal land to oil drilling that will indeed take years to develop but will take away the only power Putin has and that is oil and natural gas. Otherwise we will forever be held hostage by countries like Iran and Russia. Greening America is a great idea but we can't ignore the realities of the world as it is.

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:56:38 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
> > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > > Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > > >> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> > > > >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> > > > >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> > > > >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> > > > >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
> > > > >>> Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > > > >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > > > >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Details, details.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
> > > > >
> > > > > IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!
> > > > >
> > > > > -TE
> > > > >
> > > > It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
> > > > holding back US oil production.
> > > >
> > > > https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/
> > > >
> > > > Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
> > > > analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
> > > > community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
> > > > proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
> > > > 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”
> > > >
> > > > […]
> > > >
> > > > When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
> > > > call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
> > > > had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
> > > > more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
> > > > producing.”
> > > > --
> > > > “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
> > > > liberal personality.” — Altie
> > > It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game whi;ch is clouding his strategic thinking and decision making
> > > https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/
> > You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on with your nonessential car journey?
> I guess I need to stop going to the bar every day ; - )

I wonder how many Americans per day complain about high gas prices while idling in the drive thru line for thirty minutes, waiting for their fourth meal.

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 3:49:32 AM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
> floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
> >> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
> >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
> >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
> >> dangerous and volatile place.
> > Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
> > As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
> > policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.
> >
>
> Details, details.
>
> https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21
>

Leases are useless without drilling permits, which Biden has frozen. The real problem is that COVID caused a lot of companies to shutter. Those still standing capped off wells when there was no more storage available. When you cap a well, you don't just open it up. You have to drill a new one. I'm guessing that current oil prices are spurring a lot of new drilling, but that won't be on-line for a while.

BTW, you can pretty much count on Jen Rubin to screw up the facts. She's the Hannity of the left-center.

Doug