> We've been through this sort of thing before. The consensus is, she'll be involved in a trade - Griner for "Merchant of Death" Viktor Bout. At least with Reagan, he managed to get two of ours for one of theirs.

Looks like Biden picked up a history book - Bout for Griner and Paul Whelan. "See? Two for one! No Quid Pro Quo!"

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/griner-whelan-biden-offer-viktor-bout-exchange-russia-arms-dealer/index.html

On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 11:56:56 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
> > We've been through this sort of thing before. The consensus is, she'll be involved in a trade - Griner for "Merchant of Death" Viktor Bout. At least with Reagan, he managed to get two of ours for one of theirs.
> Looks like Biden picked up a history book - Bout for Griner and Paul Whelan. "See? Two for one! No Quid Pro Quo!"
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/griner-whelan-biden-offer-viktor-bout-exchange-russia-arms-dealer/index.html

Oh look, Griner actually thought she had rights in Russia.

This is rapidly heading to Darwin Award territory...

She dead.

Mike

On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:50:51 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 4:19:13 PM UTC-4, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
> > On 7/4/2022 9:06 PM, michael anderson wrote:
> > > and why we should feel bad for her and/or make special deals with russia
> > > to bring her home?
> > >
> > > Best I can tell, nobody is arguing she didn't break the law right? We may not agree with the laws in each and every country and the punishment associated with it, but citizens of other countries may not agree with every single one of our laws when they travel here......
> > >
> > > Furthermore pretty much everyone knows/should know that when you are flying through other countries or in another country, that their laws may be different there. Especially the flying part- why she brought hash on an international flight knowing this is a piece of work.....it makes it hard to have a lot of sympathy for her.
> > >
> > > And then I see in media here they are saying stuff like "experts believe it will be a show trial and........" Ummm sorry, but what exactly about it that we have seen so far makes it appear like a show trial? Is griener saying the hash was planted on her? Is she saying she is not guilty? If not, what is the issue about it being a show trial.....
> > >
> > > I guess I just don't understand why we are supposed to care. Yes if she has to spend years in a russian prison that does seem harsh for the crime, but again.....it's their country and their laws. When you go to another country you have to obey their laws or suffer the consequences. Furthermore it's not like she is being arrested and prosecuted for some very bizarre thing nobody would have guessed was illegal there.....it's still illegal in many/most(?) states to have hashish on you when going through the airport. If I flew back in to birmingham with a bunch of hash and was caught, I would be arrested as well and prosecuted.....the punishment in russia is apparently stricter, but hells bells that is their right as a country. We have stricter punishments for some things that another country may be more lenient on I'm sure.....
> > >
> > > I just don't see the 'miscarriage of justice' type angle here. Anyone want to help me out?
> > Putin just sticking his thumb in Uncle Sam's eye.
> No, Putin just sticking his boot in Joe Biden's ass. Putin hasn't changed -
> he invades Ukraine when he sees American weakness. That's why
> he invaded Ukraine when Obama was in office. That's why he didn't
> try it when Trump was in office. 'That's why he invaded again when
> Biden took office.
>
> When the world saw how weak Biden is and how he f--ked up the
> Afghanistan withdrawal, no knowledgable person was
> at all surprised when Putin invaded Ukraine - again.
>

Yet Putin invaded Georgia while Bush was president even though Bush looked into Putin's soul and even though Bush was supposed to be such a tough guy with his Iraq war

in the meantime supposed wussy Biden just today

stood up to China https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1554170668572360707?s=20&t=9a5_4I_SOTwaf4ePXpYkSg
A group of British Parliament members considers visiting Taiwan to stick it to Xi

And under Biden, USA destroyed an Al Qaeda high value leader AL Zawahiri yesterday who had been hiding out with a Taliban leader. Besides the obvious pluses for taking this action, it is a strong message to Putin who has recently been collaborating with Taliban, dropping all kinds of gifts and favors on them most of which were meant to harm USA directly or indirectly

Btw killing this guy during trump’s Saudi golf tournament (the one where he said “nobody knows who’s responsible for 9/11”) is epic timing. Perfect.
https://twitter.com/BaddCompani/status/1554219288294109186?s=20&t=9a5_4I_SOTwaf4ePXpYkSg

As far as Greiner, we do not leave our own behind

Russia periodically nabs americans whether guilty or not for trade value
Since they nabbed right before the war, they likely anticipated

If Russia really cared about Marco trafficking, they would close the Donetsk border which has been used by Russian mafia for some time, to transport drugs and arms

and a major reason they seized the Donetsk border in 2014

Because Ukraine was about to close down the organized crime rings there. Had nothing to do with obama

You get rid of putin and this mafia, you will get rid of a huge portion of the action at the Mexican border

Win win

So We do not leave ours behind and go out of our way to help others

Just like we did in previous wars

Thank god we let so many ukrainians to emigrate to USA over decades

Every doctor i took my mother to er has been Ukrainian which was a blessing with her hearing loss,

mk5000

Vroom-vroom, ey
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I think you forget how many people in this country support Putin and al Qaeda, etc.

Mike

Really a hot topic in the news recently! Many angles.

Fiz Jr
fiz_jr@yahoo.com

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 12:17:24 AM UTC-5, Fiz Jr wrote:
> Really a hot topic in the news recently! Many angles.
>
> Fiz Jr
> fiz...@yahoo.com

Sure it is not college ball but it is still fun

https://24tv.ua/ru/nochju-iz-kryma-vyehali-premer-aksenov-i-glava-gosdumy-poluostrova-kostjantinov_n2133000

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 5:06:38 PM UTC-5, m syadoz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 12:17:24 AM UTC-5, Fiz Jr wrote:
> > Really a hot topic in the news recently! Many angles.
> >
> > Fiz Jr
> > fiz...@yahoo.com
> Sure it is not college ball but it is still fun
>
> https://24tv.ua/ru/nochju-iz-kryma-vyehali-premer-aksenov-i-glava-gosdumy-poluostrova-kostjantinov_n2133000

Damn

Wrong link
i meant to put the clip about the press conference before the usyk fight
Which he won tonight

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 5:06:38 PM UTC-5, m syadoz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 12:17:24 AM UTC-5, Fiz Jr wrote:
> > Really a hot topic in the news recently! Many angles.
> >
> > Fiz Jr
> > fiz...@yahoo.com
> Sure it is not college ball but it is still fun
>
> https://24tv.ua/ru/nochju-iz-kryma-vyehali-premer-aksenov-i-glava-gosdumy-poluostrova-kostjantinov_n2133000

Here is what i meant to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YWDBcRrfeA

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:06:20 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
> and why we should feel bad for her and/or make special deals with russia
> to bring her home?
>
> Best I can tell, nobody is arguing she didn't break the law right? We may not agree with the laws in each and every country and the punishment associated with it, but citizens of other countries may not agree with every single one of our laws when they travel here......
>
> Furthermore pretty much everyone knows/should know that when you are flying through other countries or in another country, that their laws may be different there. Especially the flying part- why she brought hash on an international flight knowing this is a piece of work.....it makes it hard to have a lot of sympathy for her.
>
> And then I see in media here they are saying stuff like "experts believe it will be a show trial and........" Ummm sorry, but what exactly about it that we have seen so far makes it appear like a show trial? Is griener saying the hash was planted on her? Is she saying she is not guilty? If not, what is the issue about it being a show trial.....
>
> I guess I just don't understand why we are supposed to care. Yes if she has to spend years in a russian prison that does seem harsh for the crime, but again.....it's their country and their laws. When you go to another country you have to obey their laws or suffer the consequences. Furthermore it's not like she is being arrested and prosecuted for some very bizarre thing nobody would have guessed was illegal there.....it's still illegal in many/most(?) states to have hashish on you when going through the airport. If I flew back in to birmingham with a bunch of hash and was caught, I would be arrested as well and prosecuted.....the punishment in russia is apparently stricter, but hells bells that is their right as a country. We have stricter punishments for some things that another country may be more lenient on I'm sure.....
>
> I just don't see the 'miscarriage of justice' type angle here. Anyone want to help me out?

You people are a horror. It was the Russians that said Britany for the trade and what was the President suppose to say, no. And the national anthem was written for white people not people of color, so my hats off to Britany!!!!

On 2022-12-10, margo nevilles <mnevilles33@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:06:20 PM UTC-4, miande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> and why we should feel bad for her and/or make special deals with russia
>> to bring her home?
>>
>> Best I can tell, nobody is arguing she didn't break the law right? We may not agree with the laws in each and every country and the punishment associated with it, but citizens of other countries may not agree with every single one of our laws when they travel here......
>>
>> Furthermore pretty much everyone knows/should know that when you are flying through other countries or in another country, that their laws may be different there. Especially the flying part- why she brought hash on an international flight knowing this is a piece of work.....it makes it hard to have a lot of sympathy for her.
>>
>> And then I see in media here they are saying stuff like "experts believe it will be a show trial and........" Ummm sorry, but what exactly about it that we have seen so far makes it appear like a show trial? Is griener saying the hash was planted on her? Is she saying she is not guilty? If not, what is the issue about it being a show trial.....
>>
>> I guess I just don't understand why we are supposed to care. Yes if she has to spend years in a russian prison that does seem harsh for the crime, but again.....it's their country and their laws. When you go to another country you have to obey their laws or suffer the consequences. Furthermore it's not like she is being arrested and prosecuted for some very bizarre thing nobody would have guessed was illegal there.....it's still illegal in many/most(?) states to have hashish on you when going through the airport. If I flew back in to birmingham with a bunch of hash and was caught, I would be arrested as well and prosecuted.....the punishment in russia is apparently stricter, but hells bells that is their right as a country. We have stricter punishments for some things that another country may be more lenient on I'm sure.....
>>
>> I just don't see the 'miscarriage of justice' type angle here. Anyone want to help me out?
>
> You people are a horror. It was the Russians that said Britany for the
> trade and what was the President suppose to say, no. And the national
> anthem was written for white people not people of color, so my hats
> off to Britany!!!!

Of course an irresponsible ingrate whiner should go to the front of the
line. Who wouldn't want that?

--
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make it. -- unknown

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 11:08:56 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:

> Of course an irresponsible ingrate whiner should go to the front of the
> line. Who wouldn't want that?

The media made millions and raked-in awards by lying about links
between Trump and Russian oligarchs. Now the same media glorifies
an American-hating POS who works for the same oligarchs.

-TE

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-8, TE wrote:
> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 11:08:56 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
>
> > Of course an irresponsible ingrate whiner should go to the front of the
> > line. Who wouldn't want that?
> The media made millions and raked-in awards by lying about links
> between Trump and Russian oligarchs. Now the same media glorifies
> an American-hating POS who works for the same oligarchs.

Then eliminate her and the WNBA from the equation -- with lethal force if necessary.

C'mon, tough guy...

Mike

On 7/7/2022 3:15 AM, Michael Falkner wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:41:09 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
>
>> We've been through this sort of thing before. The consensus is, she'll be involved in a trade - Griner for "Merchant of Death" Viktor Bout. At least with Reagan, he managed to get two of ours for one of theirs.
>
> You aren't wrong -- but if I'm Putin, WHY?
>
> If I'm Putin, I have to know I'm WINNING.
>
> Mike

If he thinks that, he's delusional.
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On 12/10/2022 2:01 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-8, TE wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 11:08:56 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
>>
>>> Of course an irresponsible ingrate whiner should go to the front of the
>>> line. Who wouldn't want that?
>> The media made millions and raked-in awards by lying about links
>> between Trump and Russian oligarchs. Now the same media glorifies
>> an American-hating POS who works for the same oligarchs.
>
> Then eliminate her and the WNBA from the equation -- with lethal force if necessary.
>
> C'mon, tough guy...
>
> Mike
Economics will deal with both.
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On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 11:44:52 AM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

> If he thinks that, he's delusional.

I've always viewed Putin as a master of 19-D chess, and he's had the world spinning ever since.

Mike

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 11:47:15 AM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:
> On 12/10/2022 2:01 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:

> > Then eliminate her and the WNBA from the equation -- with lethal force if necessary.
> >
> > C'mon, tough guy...

> Economics will deal with both.

If the WNBA had anything to do with what you consider economic reality, it wouldn't have lasted five years.

Women's sports only exist for the sexual pleasure of men, the beating down of transgenderism by bigots, and as required by law to allow FOOBAW, etc. to exist.

Mike

On 12/10/2022 6:04 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 11:44:52 AM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:
>
>> If he thinks that, he's delusional.
>
> I've always viewed Putin as a master of 19-D chess, and he's had the world spinning ever since.
>
> Mike

He is showing himself to be a paper psychopath.
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