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On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 11:58:59 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Women's Euro starts tomorrow.

I can't remember which team or player it was, but I read somewhere that an injured player has been replaced in 1 of the squads after the tournament started! I thought it was only up to kick-off of the team's 1st match that that was allowed.

If it's allowed once the tournament's started, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a squad? Surely the whole point is that you've already got cover for injuries?

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 by: Binder Dundat - Mon, 18 Jul 2022 10:48 UTC

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 8:53:20 a.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 12:19:10 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 3:59:39 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 10:45:26 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 1:56:00 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 2:53:14 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 11:55:48 PM UTC+3, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:19:28 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > > FT: Italy - Iceland 1-1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Disapppointing result for Italy, but it keeps the azzurre still in the thick of the qualifying picture. Assuming France takes care of business against Belgium and Iceland, a win against Belgium will be enough for second place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Iceland went ahead in the third minute. I caught most of the second half, Italy dominated possession, and created some good chances (including a post by Bonansea). But they also need to thank their lucky stars for two or three huge misses by the Icelandic girls. Vilhjálmsdóttir was guilty of particularly bad one in the 88th minute, and couldn't contain her desperation.
> > > > > It would be very easy for the Misogynists to write off women's football as some 3rd rate soccer imitation like MLS, they would point out such things as the last minute penalty in the game between the Dames and the Belgettes as proof of its inferior product. But I am not like that, you have to appreciate it for what it is, which I wont get into for the sake of diplomacy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Last round of group stages games and they are all being played at the same time, even though not necessary, since women dont cheat like men. All the teams that you think are going to go through, look like they will go through, except for maybe Austria, all they need is a draw vs either a very deflated group of kvinne or a riled up group after the big loss vs the lasses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Spain and Denmark play tomorrow for second place in the group.
> > > > >
> > > > > Neddies and Svergettes should qualify, unless one of them loses the next day and after that it s France and one other team going through, which might be Iceland if the Dames take it easy on the dotirs.
> > > > Wait, whaaat, the 2nd div already started today!??!?!?! It is like 30C at night, it is early July, WTF!??!?!?! Here is my prediction of the day
> > > > Kaiserslautern gets promoted to the 1st div before Hamburgo.
> > > >
> > > > Anyhow, chick soccer is the topic, Austria did more than enough to take 2nd spot and eliminate Norway with a commanding 1-0, they could be a dark horse in this thing. Except the QF match is against Germany, which is the biggest rivalry or derby or whatever you wanna call it, in all of football. THe oldest rivalry in the world, they been playin this since before Jebus was born! I can guaranty you the scribblers will be getting the 1978 references out by tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder who the Berti Vogts female equivalent is?
> > > Denmark - Spain
> > >
> > > Why are Spain wearing what looks like a Uruguay or Argentina away kit? I mean I know it’s their second kit, but why those colours?
> > >
> > > Makes it look like a World Cup, not a Euros!
> > >
> > > RM
> > It was a very dull grey kit,
> Looked light blue to me? I looked it up on the Adidas website and they describe it as “glow blue”, whatever that’s meant to be.

I would say the look I got from watching on tv was a mix of Uruguay light blue and white or grey, I thought it looked dull, not glowing blue, but then again, like most men I am colour blind, the women watching probably thought it was a dazzling kit, I thought it just looked out of place as a kit colour, especially for Spain, kinda boring and dull. I suppose some may say Spain's style of play is boring and dull, lots of possession, but not much end product.

Plenty of end product from the Dutchies and Sweedie pies as they took care of biz, both winning easily. SO la Grande dames will play the Dutchies and we find out today if it will be Belgium Icelandia or Italia vs the Swedes. Regardless of which team it is, Sweden is in the Semi finals.

Meanwhile in big transfer news, Lewa is going to Barca (where did they get the money?) and Bayern will spend that money on De Ligt.

>
> RM
> maybe meant to blend into the English backdrop of wet, grey skies, except that England is as hot and sunny as the Iceberg, I think we are going up to 34C here today and the match in Manchester will be around 30C with the earlier kick off.
> >
> > Coming from the Sepp Blatter school of female kit design, with all that heat, I think they should wear something lighter, maybe a bikini like kit for games when it is this hot or maybe just wrapped in light silky scarves, you know cus of the heat, then during the water breaks, happening every 5 minutes, they could pour ice cod water over each others bodies and wipe down with the scarves. Not my ideas, just trying to incorporated what Sepp Blatter would have wanted.
> >
> > Anyhow, Blatter wet dreams aside, Spain won with a late goal, I did not really watch much of the match, but Spain had 75% possession, made around 800 passes and won 1-0 with a 90th minute goal. THis means they will play England and if the English women are like the men, they will knock out the Lioneses, who will get nervous and screw themselves up as per English football design.
> >
> > Should be straight forward today, Holland and Sweden to win, with the winner with the highest goal margin to avoid France, so I would think they will both want to run up the score. I think Portugal might have a chance to pull an upset, but not too likely.
> >
> > Tomorrow Belgium v Italy to decide second place, unless they draw, then I think the dotirs of Iceland advances.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Mon, 18 Jul 2022 19:30 UTC

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 2:53:20 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 12:19:10 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 3:59:39 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 10:45:26 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 1:56:00 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 2:53:14 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 11:55:48 PM UTC+3, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:19:28 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > > FT: Italy - Iceland 1-1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Disapppointing result for Italy, but it keeps the azzurre still in the thick of the qualifying picture. Assuming France takes care of business against Belgium and Iceland, a win against Belgium will be enough for second place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Iceland went ahead in the third minute. I caught most of the second half, Italy dominated possession, and created some good chances (including a post by Bonansea). But they also need to thank their lucky stars for two or three huge misses by the Icelandic girls. Vilhjálmsdóttir was guilty of particularly bad one in the 88th minute, and couldn't contain her desperation.
> > > > > It would be very easy for the Misogynists to write off women's football as some 3rd rate soccer imitation like MLS, they would point out such things as the last minute penalty in the game between the Dames and the Belgettes as proof of its inferior product. But I am not like that, you have to appreciate it for what it is, which I wont get into for the sake of diplomacy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Last round of group stages games and they are all being played at the same time, even though not necessary, since women dont cheat like men. All the teams that you think are going to go through, look like they will go through, except for maybe Austria, all they need is a draw vs either a very deflated group of kvinne or a riled up group after the big loss vs the lasses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Spain and Denmark play tomorrow for second place in the group.
> > > > >
> > > > > Neddies and Svergettes should qualify, unless one of them loses the next day and after that it s France and one other team going through, which might be Iceland if the Dames take it easy on the dotirs.
> > > > Wait, whaaat, the 2nd div already started today!??!?!?! It is like 30C at night, it is early July, WTF!??!?!?! Here is my prediction of the day
> > > > Kaiserslautern gets promoted to the 1st div before Hamburgo.
> > > >
> > > > Anyhow, chick soccer is the topic, Austria did more than enough to take 2nd spot and eliminate Norway with a commanding 1-0, they could be a dark horse in this thing. Except the QF match is against Germany, which is the biggest rivalry or derby or whatever you wanna call it, in all of football. THe oldest rivalry in the world, they been playin this since before Jebus was born! I can guaranty you the scribblers will be getting the 1978 references out by tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder who the Berti Vogts female equivalent is?
> > > Denmark - Spain
> > >
> > > Why are Spain wearing what looks like a Uruguay or Argentina away kit? I mean I know it’s their second kit, but why those colours?
> > >
> > > Makes it look like a World Cup, not a Euros!
> > >
> > > RM
> > It was a very dull grey kit,
>
> Looked light blue to me? I looked it up on the Adidas website and they describe it as “glow blue”, whatever that’s meant to be.

I thought the kit was part of Adidas's ongoing fascination with using complementary colours - the exact opposite of Spain's usual dark red.
Didn't the men wear a similar jersey once?

checks: yeah, kind of similar, at Euro 2012, also Adidas: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rrTBljJ1LVU/T9-UirGZOzI/AAAAAAAASgs/5Pu54Z4oejg/s1600/Spain-Football-Team.jpg

Ciao,
Werner


> RM

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 by: Werner Pichler - Mon, 18 Jul 2022 19:31 UTC

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:19:10 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
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> Tomorrow Belgium v Italy to decide second place, unless they draw, then I think the dotirs of Iceland advances.

Belgium and Italy might actually play a reverse biscotto, where both are eliminated.

Ciao,
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On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:11:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 1:11:06 AM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > Very disappointing Euro for the azzurre. Given Juve's excellent run in the CL, I expected more.
> Forgot to add: football sucks

So what happened in the France-Iceland match? 1st minute goal for France, no more goals until Iceland equalized 12 minutes into injury time?!, and it finishes 1-1!

Can anyone fill us in on the details?

The tie of the round in the quarter-finals is probably France v Netherlands.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 20 Jul 2022 13:16 UTC

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:36:04 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:11:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 1:11:06 AM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > Very disappointing Euro for the azzurre. Given Juve's excellent run in the CL, I expected more.
> > Forgot to add: football sucks
> So what happened in the France-Iceland match? 1st minute goal for France, no more goals until Iceland equalized 12 minutes into injury time?!, and it finishes 1-1!
>
> Can anyone fill us in on the details?
You just did.
The match stats suggest France controlled the game with 200 more passes made, 68% possession and twice as many shots. Still, it is a shame that the dottirs of Icelandia go out without losing a game.

>
> The tie of the round in the quarter-finals is probably France v Netherlands.
You would think so, but the bookies at BET365, have today's match as the closest according to the odds. I dunno, like I said earlier, if the English women are like the men, they will lose, otherwise I think they win easily. Bookies have England and Germany as favourites to win it all.

Bookies have Germany and Sweden winning their QFs easily. On the kicker website, I think it was 93% surveyed thought Germany would beat Austria, but they will all be wrong. France is a healthy favourite for their match, but I am not convinced.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 20 Jul 2022 19:35 UTC

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:16:33 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:36:04 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
> > On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:11:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 1:11:06 AM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > Very disappointing Euro for the azzurre. Given Juve's excellent run in the CL, I expected more.
> > > Forgot to add: football sucks
> > So what happened in the France-Iceland match? 1st minute goal for France, no more goals until Iceland equalized 12 minutes into injury time?!, and it finishes 1-1!
> >
> > Can anyone fill us in on the details?
> You just did.
> The match stats suggest France controlled the game with 200 more passes made, 68% possession and twice as many shots. Still, it is a shame that the dottirs of Icelandia go out without losing a game.
> >
> > The tie of the round in the quarter-finals is probably France v Netherlands.
> You would think so, but the bookies at BET365, have today's match as the closest according to the odds. I dunno, like I said earlier, if the English women are like the men, they will lose, otherwise I think they win easily. Bookies have England and Germany as favourites to win it all.
>
> Bookies have Germany and Sweden winning their QFs easily. On the kicker website, I think it was 93% surveyed thought Germany would beat Austria, but they will all be wrong. France is a healthy favourite for their match, but I am not convinced@

Eng 0 vs Esp 0 33"

I would say this is more watchable than an MLS game not saying they would beat an mls team, cmon the worst mls team would beat the best team in this euro 45-0, but this game is more interesting,more intense.

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 by: Binder Dundat - Wed, 20 Jul 2022 19:54 UTC

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 3:35:46 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:16:33 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:36:04 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:11:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 1:11:06 AM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > Very disappointing Euro for the azzurre. Given Juve's excellent run in the CL, I expected more.
> > > > Forgot to add: football sucks
> > > So what happened in the France-Iceland match? 1st minute goal for France, no more goals until Iceland equalized 12 minutes into injury time?!, and it finishes 1-1!
> > >
> > > Can anyone fill us in on the details?
> > You just did.
> > The match stats suggest France controlled the game with 200 more passes made, 68% possession and twice as many shots. Still, it is a shame that the dottirs of Icelandia go out without losing a game.
> > >
> > > The tie of the round in the quarter-finals is probably France v Netherlands.
> > You would think so, but the bookies at BET365, have today's match as the closest according to the odds. I dunno, like I said earlier, if the English women are like the men, they will lose, otherwise I think they win easily. Bookies have England and Germany as favourites to win it all.
> >
> > Bookies have Germany and Sweden winning their QFs easily. On the kicker website, I think it was 93% surveyed thought Germany would beat Austria, but they will all be wrong. France is a healthy favourite for their match, but I am not convinced@
>
> Eng 0 vs Esp 0 33"
>
> I would say this is more watchable than an MLS game not saying they would beat an mls team, cmon the worst mls team would beat the best team in this euro 45-0, but this game is more interesting,more intense.

0-0 at the half. Physical game, I noticed vs Germany that these Senoritas are hard, some might say dirty, not me, women dont have it in them to play dirty. The Woman Spain team play a lot like the old tiki taki, win 1-0 Man Spain team of the early century. I also think it is unfair that Spain get to have a man coach, I mean come on, what is next, a man keeper? Man masseuse? man ball boy?

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 by: ixion martin - GdBx - Wed, 20 Jul 2022 22:50 UTC

Mark a formulé ce mardi :
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:11:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix
> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 1:11:06 AM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix
>> wrote:
>>> Very disappointing Euro for the azzurre. Given Juve's
>>> excellent run in the CL, I expected more.
>> Forgot to add: football sucks
>
> So what happened in the France-Iceland match? 1st minute goal
> for France, no more goals until Iceland equalized 12 minutes
> into injury time?!, and it finishes 1-1!
>
> Can anyone fill us in on the details?

France scores three times. First time in first minute. Second
time around minute 60 but VAR logically canceled it due to an
offside. Third time around minute 89 with Grace Geyoro pushing
the ball inside the net. Checked by the VAR, the videos shows
that Geyoro, completely rolled and tackled to ground by her
opponent and hand on the body success to score but the referee
decide to cancel the goal because of an handball nobody saw
clearly but did not see any penalty...

During injuring time, a French player is thrown out to
advertising panels while jumping by an Icelandic player already
yellow-carded but no foul...

And two minutes and half after the end of extra time, an
Icelandic player pushed Sarr to another Icelandic player and
make her fall. No doubt for the slut Adamkova, it is penalty...

The refeereing is a joke in this Euro. In first game versus
Italy, a clear red card legally given has been converted into
yellow with the VAR. Tonight, a clear foul on the Spanish
defender allows the equalizer and deny the qualification to
Spain.

All this is a joke. Make a game between England and Germany and
give the trophy to the winner, no need to give hope to other
teams.

--
Ixion

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 by: Binder Dundat - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 18:47 UTC

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 6:50:44 p.m. UTC-4, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
> Mark a formulé ce mardi :
> > On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:11:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix
> > wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 1:11:06 AM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix
> >> wrote:
> >>> Very disappointing Euro for the azzurre. Given Juve's
> >>> excellent run in the CL, I expected more.
> >> Forgot to add: football sucks
> >
> > So what happened in the France-Iceland match? 1st minute goal
> > for France, no more goals until Iceland equalized 12 minutes
> > into injury time?!, and it finishes 1-1!
> >
> > Can anyone fill us in on the details?
> France scores three times. First time in first minute. Second
> time around minute 60 but VAR logically canceled it due to an
> offside. Third time around minute 89 with Grace Geyoro pushing
> the ball inside the net. Checked by the VAR, the videos shows
> that Geyoro, completely rolled and tackled to ground by her
> opponent and hand on the body success to score but the referee
> decide to cancel the goal because of an handball nobody saw
> clearly but did not see any penalty...
>
> During injuring time, a French player is thrown out to
> advertising panels while jumping by an Icelandic player already
> yellow-carded but no foul...
>
> And two minutes and half after the end of extra time, an
> Icelandic player pushed Sarr to another Icelandic player and
> make her fall. No doubt for the slut Adamkova, it is penalty...
>
> The refeereing is a joke in this Euro. In first game versus
> Italy, a clear red card legally given has been converted into
> yellow with the VAR. Tonight, a clear foul on the Spanish
> defender allows the equalizer and deny the qualification to
> Spain.
>
> All this is a joke. Make a game between England and Germany and
> give the trophy to the winner, no need to give hope to other
> teams.
>
> --
> Ixion

It seems a lot of people, mostly Spanish or at least Basque are calling for a foul on the English goal. I didnt think so, the ref wasnt calling that all game anyway, so at least she was consistent. the Senoritas were the dirtier of the two, always niggly fouling the old English Grandmas and she let a lot of that go, so your conspiracy needs more juice for that one.

Anyhow, the biggest rivalry in International football in store for today, made even bigger with the death of another true German legend, Uwe Seeler died today, must have died from a broken heart the way HSV have been going lately. Personally, I think 85 years old, is a good age and a long life.

So Germany is huge favourites, but I am thinking Austria will be up for it and defend the shit out of them, of course the minute Germany score, it will be all over.

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On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:47:11 PM UTC+3, Binder Dundat wrote:
> So Germany is huge favourites, but I am thinking Austria will be up for it and defend the shit out of them, of course the minute Germany score, it will be all over.

That's what I would have thought too, but the Austrian Frauen are putting up a decent fight. Unfortunately, they only have three woodworks to show for their effort, and in the past few minutes it's Germany who looks to be much closer to a second goal.

73' GER-AUT 1-0

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On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 11:32:58 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:47:11 PM UTC+3, Binder Dundat wrote:
>
> > So Germany is huge favourites, but I am thinking Austria will be up for it and defend the shit out of them, of course the minute Germany score, it will be all over.
> That's what I would have thought too, but the Austrian Frauen are putting up a decent fight. Unfortunately, they only have three woodworks to show for their effort, and in the past few minutes it's Germany who looks to be much closer to a second goal.
>
> 73' GER-AUT 1-0

87' 2-0

Austria tries to build from the back, and Popp susccessfully blocks the Austrian goalie's attempted clearance and the ball slowly rolls into the back of the net.

Austria had given Germany a scare at the beginning of the second half, but eventually ran out of steam.

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On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 10:54:22 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 11:32:58 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:47:11 PM UTC+3, Binder Dundat wrote:
> >
> > > So Germany is huge favourites, but I am thinking Austria will be up for it and defend the shit out of them, of course the minute Germany score, it will be all over.
> > That's what I would have thought too, but the Austrian Frauen are putting up a decent fight. Unfortunately, they only have three woodworks to show for their effort, and in the past few minutes it's Germany who looks to be much closer to a second goal.
> >
> > 73' GER-AUT 1-0
> 87' 2-0
>
> Austria tries to build from the back, and Popp susccessfully blocks the Austrian goalie's attempted clearance and the ball slowly rolls into the back of the net.
>
> Austria had given Germany a scare at the beginning of the second half, but eventually ran out of steam.

We took the match to the Germans (something they definitely didn't expect) and hit the woodwork three times. There's not much more to ask for.
The only thing that annoys me is that we finally also conceded one of those stupid goals that are still too endemic in women's football. You could
see it coming from miles away... Zinsberger really should have known better.

The important thing now will be to qualify for the World Cup for the first time. With a similar performance like at the Euro, and the proper lessons
learned, we needn't be afraid of any opponent in the play-offs.

Ciao,
Werner

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On Sunday, July 24, 2022 at 2:32:40 AM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:

> The only thing that annoys me is that we finally also conceded one of those stupid goals that are still too endemic in
> women's football.

About those stupid goals...the lob from way out is definitely a deliberate tactic that more and more players are trying. It makes no sense with 1.90m male goalies, but certainly has a place in the game with 1.70m female goalies.

France dominated the Netherlands, but only managed a 1-0 win thanks to a penalty in extra-time. Now the Germans will get to play them with two days' rest, and 30 fewer minutes in their legs.

Semifinals:
England-Sweden
Germany-France

All the top seeds make it to the semis...this wouldn't have been a good SophCon for Aggie

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Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:
>On Sunday, July 24, 2022 at 2:32:40 AM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
>> The only thing that annoys me is that we finally also conceded one of those stupid goals that are still too endemic in
>> women's football.
>
>About those stupid goals...the lob from way out is definitely a deliberate tactic that more and more players are trying. It makes no sense with 1.90m male goalies, but certainly has a place in the game with 1.70m female goalies.
>
>France dominated the Netherlands, but only managed a 1-0 win thanks to a penalty in extra-time. Now the Germans will get to play them with two days' rest, and 30 fewer minutes in their legs.
>
>Semifinals:
>England-Sweden
>Germany-France
>
>All the top seeds make it to the semis...this wouldn't have been a good SophCon for Aggie

Sweden + three football minnows!

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On Sunday, July 24, 2022 at 9:02:05 AM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:
>
> >
> >Semifinals:
> >England-Sweden
> >Germany-France
> >
> >All the top seeds make it to the semis...this wouldn't have been a good SophCon for Aggie
> Sweden + three football minnows!

Woof woof!

Actually, it's more like the end of an era. Sweden are the only survivor from back when
women's football still had a distinct advantage in the North, and it feels like it's only a matter
of time until they fall by the wayside like Norway did.

The future will be exactly like men's football, with the Big 5 dominating, just as in club football
where that's already long the case.

Ciao,
Werner

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On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 12:12:56 AM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Woof woof!

Woof, schmoof: Who wrote these immortal lines?

"England plays at home and are thought to be among the favorites, but the English club teams have been underwhelming in the latest Champions League campaign. Overrated? "

> Actually, it's more like the end of an era. Sweden are the only survivor from back when
> women's football still had a distinct advantage in the North, and it feels like it's only a matter
> of time until they fall by the wayside like Norway did.
>
> The future will be exactly like men's football, with the Big 5 dominating, just as in club football
> where that's already long the case.

Come on, on the men's side you can still get relative minnows like Croatia and Italy make a WC/Euro final, and maybe even win it if PKs go the right way

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It's coming home, and the refs were helping.

The 2-0 was a blatant offside (line of vision).

Mike

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Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:
>It's coming home, and the refs were helping.
>
>The 2-0 was a blatant offside (line of vision).
>
>Mike

VAR 6-0 SWEDEN during the EC.

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On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 9:21:12 AM UTC+3, anders t wrote:
> Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:
> >It's coming home, and the refs were helping.
> >
> >The 2-0 was a blatant offside (line of vision).
> >

Germany, deservedly, is the second finalist. Two great centerforward goals by Alexandra Popp.
I get the feeling that the word "1966" will appear frequently in coverage of the euro final in the English press.

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On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 12:12:56 AM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
> > Woof woof!
>
> Woof, schmoof: Who wrote these immortal lines?
>
> "England plays at home and are thought to be among the favorites, but the English club teams have been underwhelming in the latest Champions League campaign. Overrated? "
> > Actually, it's more like the end of an era. Sweden are the only survivor from back when
> > women's football still had a distinct advantage in the North, and it feels like it's only a matter
> > of time until they fall by the wayside like Norway did.
> >
> > The future will be exactly like men's football, with the Big 5 dominating, just as in club football
> > where that's already long the case.
>
> Come on, on the men's side you can still get relative minnows like Croatia and Italy make a WC/Euro final, and maybe even win it if PKs go the right way

Well, no amount of Anti-Weauxfing will change the fact that Italy will always be Big 5 due to size of population.

But I realise I've been quite UEFA-centric (well, it is the Euro we were talking about). Canada are of course the other holdout
from among those who had a head start in the development of women's football.

Ciao,
Werner

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On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 2:42:03 AM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Well, no amount of Anti-Weauxfing will change the fact that Italy will always be Big 5 due to size of population.

Have you looked at the latest numbers on Italy's total fertility rate? (Yes, it will take a while for the population to shrink relative to other European countries. But also, why has Italy been so poor in integrating its immigrant population in the NT, both men and women?)


> But I realise I've been quite UEFA-centric (well, it is the Euro we were talking about). Canada are of course the other holdout
> from among those who had a head start in the development of women's football.

In terms of population, Canada (38m) would be the 6th member of the Big 5. Not sure I understand why they've still been trotting out Christine Sinclair (unless she's just out to get to 200 international goals...)

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Subject: Re: Women's Euro 2022: Preview
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 by: MH - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 18:26 UTC

On 2022-07-28 02:39, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 2:42:03 AM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
>> Well, no amount of Anti-Weauxfing will change the fact that Italy will always be Big 5 due to size of population.
>
> Have you looked at the latest numbers on Italy's total fertility rate? (Yes, it will take a while for the population to shrink relative to other European countries. But also, why has Italy been so poor in integrating its immigrant population in the NT, both men and women?)
>
>
>> But I realise I've been quite UEFA-centric (well, it is the Euro we were talking about). Canada are of course the other holdout
>> from among those who had a head start in the development of women's football.
>
> In terms of population, Canada (38m) would be the 6th member of the Big 5. Not sure I understand why they've still been trotting out Christine Sinclair (unless she's just out to get to 200 international goals...)

I don't think she is negative influence quite yet. She allegedly makes
the players around her better. And she is still a few months younger
than Atiba, who I presume will retire after the world cup (whether he
gets to play in it or not - he might well miss out due to injury or form).

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 by: ixion martin - GdBx - Sat, 6 Aug 2022 13:41 UTC

Binder Dundat a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :

> It seems a lot of people, mostly Spanish or at least Basque
> are calling for a foul on the English goal. I didnt think
> so, the ref wasnt calling that all game anyway, so at least
> she was consistent. the Senoritas were the dirtier of the
> two, always niggly fouling the old English Grandmas and she
> let a lot of that go, so your conspiracy needs more juice for
> that one.

Who says that ? Binder ? Ah ah ah...

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 by: ixion martin - GdBx - Sat, 6 Aug 2022 13:43 UTC

Futbolmetrix avait écrit le 27/07/2022 :
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 9:21:12 AM UTC+3, anders t
> wrote:
>> Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:
>>> It's coming home, and the refs were helping.
>>>
>>> The 2-0 was a blatant offside (line of vision).
>>>
>
> Germany, deservedly, is the second finalist.

Yes.
But the fact Germany ended with still 11 players is a mystery
(indeed not, but for once I am consensual ;)).

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