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Re: So 2022 F1?

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From: bigbird....@gmail.com (Bigbird)
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Subject: Re: So 2022 F1?
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 11:15:45 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Bigbird - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 11:15 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-13 11:15 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-10 5:06 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-09 11:37 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-02-09 3:30 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-02-08 1:20 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > geoff wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 9/02/2022 2:56 am, Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/02/2022 9:00 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-02-07 2:22 p.m., Jimbo wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:28:17 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UTC-5, fnot wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-09 1:47 p.m., XYXPDQ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not looking for finishing order but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you thoughts on the effect of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the various rule changes for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2022 F1 season.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best four wheel racing in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > world is paused for now. When the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new season starts I'll be looking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forward to more of the same.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best four wheel racing is WRC and the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2022 season began in Monte Carlo. Also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using new cars.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is quite literally no "racing" at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all in the WRC.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > None.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is very cool--there's not denying
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it--but the one thing rally cars never do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is race.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Racing happens when cars compete for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > position.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cars “compete for position” in the WRC
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > surely?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No, they compete for 'time'.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And the car that achieves the best “time” gets
> > > > > > > > > > > > the top “position”, which is what they are
> > > > > > > > > > > > interested in.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As opposed to on-track racing, direct against each
> > > > > > > > > > > other car-to-car with overtaking, draughting,
> > > > > > > > > > > weaving, dodging, etc.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's a different form of racing.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Watch the bobsleigh races and tell me how many
> > > > > > > > > > passes you see; it's a race against the clock.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, but this is motorsports, and what you never
> > > > > > > > > seem to get is that context matters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In a motorsports context, we differentiate between
> > > > > > > > > racing and other forms for reasons of safety.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cars that come out to the track for time attack are
> > > > > > > > > "racing" against the clock. Fastest lap in your class
> > > > > > > > > wins. But by the rules they are not allowed to RACE.
> > > > > > > > > And because of that fact, the rules for the level of
> > > > > > > > > safety equipment are different than they are for
> > > > > > > > > those used for the very same cars if they are
> > > > > > > > > competing in an ACTUAL race.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We all know your words carry no weight. Cite?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you actually believe I don't know what the rules are
> > > > > > > for racing?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm a certified senior instructor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The claims of an habitual liar aside, can you or can you NOT
> > > > > > provide a cite to support your non-literal assertion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you actually claiming that you believe I don't know the
> > > > > rules for actual racing vs time attack?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes or no.
> > > >
> > > > No, it is not pertinent or under discussion. Why are deflecting?
> > >
> > > So you don't believe it's pertinent to a discussion of whether or
> > > not "racing" has a special meaning in motorsports terms that the
> > > safety rules differentiate between racing and time attack.
> > >
> >
> > No.
> >
> > This is a usenet discussion. The only pertinent meaning is one
> > common to the context.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Is it because you cannot provide a cite?
> > >
> > > I can't find the rules cite at the moment...
> > >
> >
> > LOL.
> >
> > I am not shocked. You can't even support your assertion of some
> > rules that are not common reference.
> >
> > The rules you may or may not be referring to are irrelevant.
> >
> > They are not the reference for the "literal" meaning of any words.
> >
> > The may or may not contain their own definitions but that has no
> > relevance to your claimed correction of another poster use of the
> > word "race".
> >

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READ THIS AGAIN AND TRY TO COMPREHEND.

> > > >
> > > > Yes or no?
> > > >
> >
> > A resounding NO!
> >
> > Not Surprised!
> >
>
> And you fail to respond to my additional reply where I found the
> relevant citation.
>

I did respond.

I have been quite clear all along.

I was hoping you would show the slightest intelligence and realise how
fucking retarded you sound claiming that the literal meaning of
something is hidden in some unknown motorsport regulation that you had
difficulty tracking down.

I didn't need to look at it to check the veracity of your claim, right
or wrong, as their irrelevance is proven.

You are so scared to admit you were being a pompous arsehole, trying to
be a clever dick and failed miserably.

> Not surprised!

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