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Re: So 2022 F1?

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Subject: Re: So 2022 F1?
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 12:05:49 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Bigbird - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 12:05 UTC

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-16 3:15 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-13 11:15 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-10 5:06 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-02-09 11:37 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-02-09 3:30 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-02-08 1:20 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > geoff wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/02/2022 2:56 am, Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/02/2022 9:00 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-02-07 2:22 p.m., Jimbo wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5:28:17 PM UTC-5, fnot wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-09 1:47 p.m., XYXPDQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not looking for finishing order
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but you thoughts on the effect
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the of the various rule
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes for the 2022 F1 season.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best four wheel racing in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > world is paused for now. When the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new season starts I'll be looking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forward to more of the same.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best four wheel racing is WRC and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 2022 season began in Monte
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlo. Also using new cars.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is quite literally no "racing"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at all in the WRC.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > None.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is very cool--there's not denying
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it--but the one thing rally cars
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never do is race.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Racing happens when cars compete for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > position.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cars “compete for position” in the WRC
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surely?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, they compete for 'time'.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the car that achieves the best “time”
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gets the top “position”, which is what they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are interested in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As opposed to on-track racing, direct against
> > > > > > > > > > > > > each other car-to-car with overtaking,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > draughting, weaving, dodging, etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's a different form of racing.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Watch the bobsleigh races and tell me how many
> > > > > > > > > > > > passes you see; it's a race against the clock.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, but this is motorsports, and what you never
> > > > > > > > > > > seem to get is that context matters.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In a motorsports context, we differentiate between
> > > > > > > > > > > racing and other forms for reasons of safety.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cars that come out to the track for time attack
> > > > > > > > > > > are "racing" against the clock. Fastest lap in
> > > > > > > > > > > your class wins. But by the rules they are not
> > > > > > > > > > > allowed to RACE. And because of that fact, the
> > > > > > > > > > > rules for the level of safety equipment are
> > > > > > > > > > > different than they are for those used for the
> > > > > > > > > > > very same cars if they are competing in an ACTUAL
> > > > > > > > > > > race.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We all know your words carry no weight. Cite?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you actually believe I don't know what the rules
> > > > > > > > > are for racing?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm a certified senior instructor.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The claims of an habitual liar aside, can you or can
> > > > > > > > you NOT provide a cite to support your non-literal
> > > > > > > > assertion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are you actually claiming that you believe I don't know
> > > > > > > the rules for actual racing vs time attack?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes or no.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, it is not pertinent or under discussion. Why are
> > > > > > deflecting?
> > > > >
> > > > > So you don't believe it's pertinent to a discussion of
> > > > > whether or not "racing" has a special meaning in motorsports
> > > > > terms that the safety rules differentiate between racing and
> > > > > time attack.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > This is a usenet discussion. The only pertinent meaning is one
> > > > common to the context.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it because you cannot provide a cite?
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't find the rules cite at the moment...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > LOL.
> > > >
> > > > I am not shocked. You can't even support your assertion of some
> > > > rules that are not common reference.
> > > >
> > > > The rules you may or may not be referring to are irrelevant.
> > > >
> > > > They are not the reference for the "literal" meaning of any
> > > > words.
> > > >
> > > > The may or may not contain their own definitions but that has no
> > > > relevance to your claimed correction of another poster use of
> > > > the word "race".
> > > >
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> > READ THIS AGAIN AND TRY TO COMPREHEND.
> >
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes or no?
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > A resounding NO!
> > > >
> > > > Not Surprised!
> > > >
> > >
> > > And you fail to respond to my additional reply where I found the
> > > relevant citation.
> > >
> >
> > I did respond.
>
> You did not respond to the post I made that included the very sources
> you asked for.

I responded above, in this branch.

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