On 8/15/2021 1:09 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz23rxv> newsobserver.com
>
> Costs of the Afghanistan war ..
> ------
> In most news the figure of 2,448 dead American servicemen is
> circulating, but
> no one mentions 3,846 dead American "contractors" (plus also 1,144
> servicemen
> from other NATO states).
>

Hmmm, Oleg seems to gloat over the above, but is
silent about the below,,, in far fewer years:

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan | Summary & Facts | Britannica
https://www.britannica.com › ... › The Modern World
Jul 27, 2021 — The war in Afghanistan became a quagmire for what
by the late 1980s was a disintegrating Soviet Union.
(The Soviets suffered some 15,000 dead ...
Date: December 1979

On 8/12/2021 11:10 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> a425couple, <news:sf3nb302tf9@news4.newsguy.com>
>> On 8/7/2021 1:11 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org
>>>
>>> .. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
>>> The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile
>>> system, promising
>>
>> OK Oleg, I do not think we ever doubted that
>> if it chose to, Russia could fuck up a lot
>> or the world.
>>
>> But how about just trying to live a pleasant life?
>
> These are military-related groups, and there's a huge lot
> of unedited primary sources from which one can learn Russian
> life in various regions.
>
> Only wankers find 'special' articles for masturbation.

Yes, "These are military-related groups".
Most most readers would agree that the purpose
of a military is to protect the country and
it's life.

Everything makes it sound life life in the
Russian military is quite Spartan and
kind of sucks!
And for most regular citizens, not much better.

Ahhh, but you think it's fine because the
military can ruin a lot, and Putin is rich.
It sucks to be an average Russian!

a425couple, <news:sfe9gq031kt@news3.newsguy.com>
> On 8/15/2021 1:09 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz23rxv> newsobserver.com
>>
>> Costs of the Afghanistan war ..
>> ------
>> In most news the figure of 2,448 dead American servicemen is circulating,
>> but no one mentions 3,846 dead American "contractors"
>> (plus also 1,144 servicemen from other NATO states).
>
> Hmmm, Oleg seems to gloat over the above, but is

Just point to the American propaganda trickery.

> silent about the below,,, in far fewer years:
>
> Soviet invasion of Afghanistan | Summary & Facts | Britannica
> https://www.britannica.com › ... › The Modern World
> Jul 27, 2021 — The war in Afghanistan became a quagmire for what
> by the late 1980s was a disintegrating Soviet Union.
> (The Soviets suffered some 15,000 dead ...
> Date: December 1979

America suffered some 60,000 dead in Vietnam.

a425couple, <news:sfe9s90cd@news3.newsguy.com>
> On 8/12/2021 11:10 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org
>>>>
>>>> .. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
>>>> The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile
>>>> system, promising
>>>
>>> OK Oleg, I do not think we ever doubted that
>>> if it chose to, Russia could fuck up a lot
>>> or the world.
>>>
>>> But how about just trying to live a pleasant life?
>>
>> These are military-related groups, and there's a huge lot
>> of unedited primary sources from which one can learn Russian
>> life in various regions.
>>
>> Only wankers find 'special' articles for masturbation.
>
> Yes, "These are military-related groups".
> Most most readers would agree that the purpose
> of a military is to protect the country and
> it's life.

The American "deaths of despair" <https://tinyurl.com/y5mdvwak>
have climbed up to the 100 years back level, which means many in
the filthy nation no longer want to live.

<https://tinyurl.com/yfy7ngx4> nationalinterest.org

Russia's Tsirkon Hypersonic Cruise Missile Is Operational

Here's What You Need to Remember: The missile boasts an operational range
in excess of one thousand kilometers and up to two thousand kilometers
depending on the launch platform and operating circumstances ..

Tsirkon cannot be reliably intercepted by any tools currently available to
NATO forces .. The Arleigh Burke-class missile destroyers' current surface-
to-air systems .. cannot effectively counter hypersonic threats ..

....

> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz6vfyhbIiM>
>
> Russian Northern Fleet frigate test-fires Tsirkon

On 17/08/21 9:06 pm, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> a425couple, <news:sfe9s90cd@news3.newsguy.com>
>> On 8/12/2021 11:10 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org
>>>>>
>>>>> .. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
>>>>> The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile
>>>>> system, promising
>>>>
>>>> OK Oleg, I do not think we ever doubted that
>>>> if it chose to, Russia could fuck up a lot
>>>> or the world.
>>>>
>>>> But how about just trying to live a pleasant life?
>>>
>>> These are military-related groups, and there's a huge lot of unedited
>>> primary sources from which one can learn Russian
>>> life in various regions.
>>>
>>> Only wankers find 'special' articles for masturbation.
>>
>> Yes, "These are military-related groups".
>> Most most readers would agree that the purpose
>> of a military is to protect the country and
>> it's life.
>
> The American "deaths of despair" <https://tinyurl.com/y5mdvwak>
> have climbed up to the 100 years back level, which means many in
> the filthy nation no longer want to live.

No reply as to why Russia bailed out of Afghanistan then ???????

On 17/08/21 9:05 pm, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> a425couple, <news:sfe9gq031kt@news3.newsguy.com>
>> On 8/15/2021 1:09 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz23rxv> newsobserver.com
>>>
>>> Costs of the Afghanistan war ..
>>> ------
>>> In most news the figure of 2,448 dead American servicemen is
>>> circulating,
>>> but no one mentions 3,846 dead American "contractors"
>>> (plus also 1,144 servicemen from other NATO states).
>>
>> Hmmm, Oleg seems to gloat over the above, but is
>
> Just point to the American propaganda trickery.
>
>> silent about the below,,, in far fewer years:
>>
>> Soviet invasion of Afghanistan | Summary & Facts | Britannica
>> https://www.britannica.com › ... › The Modern World
>> Jul 27, 2021 — The war in Afghanistan became a quagmire for what
>> by the late 1980s was a disintegrating Soviet Union.
>> (The Soviets suffered some 15,000 dead ...
>> Date: December 1979
>
> America suffered some 60,000 dead in Vietnam.
>

Avoiding the question again.
We're talking about the failure of the USSR

"George Black" wrote in message
news:YO6dnQAGGtNQiIH8nZ2dnUU7-cudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> No reply as to why Russia bailed out of Afghanistan then ???????

No reply from the Kremlin as to why Russian tanks are heading for the Afghan
border, either. Are they supposed to turn back "refugees"?

Since Siberia could stand a few more inhabitants:

If a C-17 can fit 640 Afghans

Then an An-124 can accommodate 1,140

And the An-225 can fit 1,500 on the freight deck alone.

Or would you prefer that they pour across the border on foot?

On 8/17/21 2:05 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> a425couple, <news:sfe9gq031kt@news3.newsguy.com>
>> On 8/15/2021 1:09 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz23rxv> newsobserver.com
>>>
>>> Costs of the Afghanistan war ..
>>> ------
>>> In most news the figure of 2,448 dead American servicemen is
>>> circulating,
>>> but no one mentions 3,846 dead American "contractors"
>>> (plus also 1,144 servicemen from other NATO states).
>>
>> Hmmm, Oleg seems to gloat over the above, but is
>
> Just point to the American propaganda trickery.
>
>> silent about the below,,, in far fewer years:
>>
>> Soviet invasion of Afghanistan | Summary & Facts | Britannica
>> https://www.britannica.com › ... › The Modern World
>> Jul 27, 2021 — The war in Afghanistan became a quagmire for what
>> by the late 1980s was a disintegrating Soviet Union.
>> (The Soviets suffered some 15,000 dead ...
>> Date: December 1979
>
> America suffered some 60,000 dead in Vietnam.
>
is it that you are unwilling, or just unable to provide all the costs to
Russia in Afghanistan compared to what you posted about Americas costs

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 4:10:01 PM UTC-4, Byker wrote:
> "George Black" wrote in message
> news:YO6dnQAGGtNQiIH8...@giganews.com...
> >
> > No reply as to why Russia bailed out of Afghanistan then ???????
> No reply from the Kremlin as to why Russian tanks are heading for the Afghan
> border, either. Are they supposed to turn back "refugees"?
>
> Since Siberia could stand a few more inhabitants:
>
> If a C-17 can fit 640 Afghans
>
> Then an An-124 can accommodate 1,140
>
> And the An-225 can fit 1,500 on the freight deck alone.
>
> Or would you prefer that they pour across the border on foot?

Russia does not have a border with Afghanistan.

On 18/08/2021 12:33, Dean Markley wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 4:10:01 PM UTC-4, Byker wrote:
>> "George Black" wrote in message
>> news:YO6dnQAGGtNQiIH8...@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> No reply as to why Russia bailed out of Afghanistan then ???????
>> No reply from the Kremlin as to why Russian tanks are heading for the Afghan
>> border, either. Are they supposed to turn back "refugees"?
>>
>> Since Siberia could stand a few more inhabitants:
>>
>> If a C-17 can fit 640 Afghans
>>
>> Then an An-124 can accommodate 1,140
>>
>> And the An-225 can fit 1,500 on the freight deck alone.
>>
>> Or would you prefer that they pour across the border on foot?
>
> Russia does not have a border with Afghanistan.
>

Indeed but Tajaikistan does have a border with afghanistan and Russia
has a military base in that country. One of its main tasks is keeping
the Taliban out of that country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_201st_Military_Base
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/russia-reinforce-military-base-tajikistan-report-2021-07-21/

<https://tinyurl.com/yjblqwf6> dailymail.co.uk

... How the US wasted billions in Afghanistan ..
- $549 million spent on unreliable transport planes ..
- $500,000 for 'melting' buildings ..
- $28 million for the wrong camouflage ..
- $36 million for an unused command center ..
- $176 million for a road that did not last a month ..
- $9 billion spent on a futile war on drugs ..

....

> <https://tinyurl.com/m7hcbvb>
>
> Goats and Boats

On 8/21/21 10:49 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yjblqwf6> dailymail.co.uk
>
> .. How the US wasted billions in Afghanistan ..
> - $549 million spent on unreliable transport planes ..
> - $500,000 for 'melting' buildings  ..
> - $28 million for the wrong camouflage ..
> - $36 million for an unused command center ..
> - $176 million for a road that did not last a month ..
> - $9 billion spent on a futile war on drugs ..
>
> ...
>
>
>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/m7hcbvb>
>>
>> Goats and Boats
The difference is, unlike Russia, we can still afford it!

SMH

On 8/21/21 7:49 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yjblqwf6> dailymail.co.uk
>
> .. How the US wasted billions in Afghanistan ..
> - $549 million spent on unreliable transport planes ..
> - $500,000 for 'melting' buildings  ..
> - $28 million for the wrong camouflage ..
> - $36 million for an unused command center ..
> - $176 million for a road that did not last a month ..
> - $9 billion spent on a futile war on drugs ..
>
> ...
>

you still haven't posted how much russia wasted in Afghanistan

>
>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/m7hcbvb>
>>
>> Goats and Boats

<https://tinyurl.com/ygvb9k92> thedailybeast.com

The Taliban Now Controls a U.S.-Made Super-Surveillance System

Over the last 20 years, Afghanistan became .. the place America
experimented with new weapons of war .. That effort failed to create
anything that could stop the Taliban ..

....

Pathetic.

> <https://tinyurl.com/y8aochcw>
>
> US spy planes are breaking down ..

<https://tinyurl.com/yjlk4xmc> bernama.com

US soldiers shot and killed civilians in a panic after last week's
deadly blast by Daesh/ISIS-K near Hamid Karzai International Airport in
the Afghan capital Kabul ..

<https://tinyurl.com/yjqv6439> washingtonpost.com

A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed
in the attack ..

....

Looks like the frightened boobs shooting haphazardly in a great panic.

The true colors of the US military.

> <https://archive.is/Orh1d>
>
> Who Urinated in Her Boots? Mystery at Military Base ..

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgiq55$ten$1@os.motzarella.org...
>
> A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
> small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed in
> the attack ..

Ten fewer future suicide bombers to worry about: http://rlu.ru/2OObJ

> <https://tinyurl.com/yjqv6439> washingtonpost.com
>
> A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
> small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed
> in the attack ..

<https://tinyurl.com/yhz54k5t> weeklyblitz.net

Biden administration lies, didn't kill any ISIS-suspect in Afghanistan

According to credible sources, despite the drone attack on suspected ISIS-K
hideouts and Biden administration's claim of killing an ISIS-K member, the
US president and his administration actually have lied ..

On 8/30/21 12:22 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> <https://tinyurl.com/yjqv6439> washingtonpost.com
>>
>> A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
>> small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were
>> killed in the attack ..
>
> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz54k5t> weeklyblitz.net
>
> Biden administration lies, didn't kill any ISIS-suspect in Afghanistan
>
> According to credible sources, despite the drone attack on suspected ISIS-K
> hideouts and Biden administration's claim of killing an ISIS-K member,
> the US president and his administration actually have lied ..

https://www.iwp.edu/articles/2020/12/18/mass-murder-in-afghanistan-40-years-of-conflict/

Soviet-Afghan War, 1979-1989

On December 24, 1979, in a desperate attempt to stabilize its prop-up
government and save its Communist empire, the Red Army invaded
Afghanistan. Previous experience with guerrilla war tactics did nothing
to stop the Soviets from rolling into Afghanistan with heavy artillery
and strategy ill-suited for the terrain and adversary.[1] They were
ready to fight a classic theater war. The prevailing Soviet
military-industrial complex eclipsed the ability of leaders to approach
the war in Afghanistan in an unconventional way.[2] But indeed, the
mujahideen was an unconventional enemy.

Many factors contributed to the Soviet failure in Afghanistan. The
empire was already limping when it launched its campaign in 1979, and it
was not prepared for such a brutal and costly war. The occupation lacked
popular support back home in the USSR. The Afghan army was weak, and the
mujahideen was supported through American and Pakistani programs
supplying weaponry and finances, strengthening already dedicated
fighters. The Afghans, hardly modernized, were still a formidable force.
Not quite united, but not totally uncoordinated, resistance fighters
came together just long enough to see the Soviets expelled.

The mass murder of civilians in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation
was inevitable due to the nature of guerrilla war. Mujahideen fighters
blended in well, both to the rural Afghan countryside and the tribal
people. Before long, the frustrated Soviets hardly bothered to
distinguish between civilians and insurgents, resorting to mass killing
campaigns. In order to destroy the support base for guerrillas, the
Soviets “felt it necessary to suppress defenseless civilians by killing
them indiscriminately, by compelling them to flee abroad, and by
destroying their crops and means of irrigation, the basis of their
livelihood. The dropping of booby traps from the air, the planting of
mines, and the use of chemical substances, though not on a wide scale,
were also meant to serve the same purpose.”[3]

Retributive murder, as in other instances of war, was commonplace. On
one occasion, two hundred noncombatants in the town of Tashqurghan were
killed in revenge for the death of three Russian soldiers in April
1982.[4] The Red Army specifically targeted large gatherings, especially
mosques. In another instance of violence, the Soviets fired rockets on a
wedding ceremony in the village of Ganjabad in 1980. As a result of the
attacks, roughly 150 people were killed.[5] These are just two of many
such events.

The brutality of the Soviet effort in Afghanistan displaced millions of
people, specifically women and children. Neighboring Pakistan and Iran
absorbed over 5 million refugees, nearly a quarter of the population.[6]
The Red Army disregarded all norms of conduct and unabashedly targeted
children by disguising land mines as toys. Despite demining efforts, to
this day, children are often maimed or killed by the mines that remain.[7]

<https://tinyurl.com/yz95ca93> tribune.com.pk

In the last 50 years, the United States has spent around $10 trillion on
overseas wars ranging from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and elsewhere
in Africa and Latin America. Doling out trillions of dollars collected
from taxpayers only on wars without winning and causing millions of deaths,
America's moment of truth has arrived. History teaches us the lesson that
the decline of power gets an impetus when the people and the government of
the concerned power deviate from the path of accountability, truth,
innovation and justice. Arrogance and ignorance of America despite its
abundant wealth were unable to prevent the irreversible process of its
decline unleashed since the end of the Vietnam War and culminating in its
abrupt, unplanned and chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan ..

....

> <https://tinyurl.com/yhggavy7>
>
> .. Afghanistan capitulation is worse than fall of Vietnam

ZZyXX, <news:sgjmci$1j00$1@gioia.aioe.org>
> On 8/30/21 12:22 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yjqv6439> washingtonpost.com
>>>
>>> A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
>>> small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed in
>>> the attack ..
>>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz54k5t> weeklyblitz.net
>>
>> Biden administration lies, didn't kill any ISIS-suspect in Afghanistan
>>
>> According to credible sources, despite the drone attack on suspected ISIS-K
>> hideouts and Biden administration's claim of killing an ISIS-K member, the
>> US president and his administration actually have lied ..
>
> https://www.iwp.edu/articles/2020/12/18/mass-murder-in-afghanistan-40-years-of-

"There is shit in the meat," says Eric Schlosser, in his book Fast Food
Nation. Writing about the processing of chickens at factory farms in her
book Spoiled, author Nicols Fox says that the "final product is no different
than if you stuck it in the toilet and ate it." .. Dr. Greger also reports
the meat industry's efforts to cover up the information .. He quotes
industry insiders who admit that truly informed consumers are the last thing
they need .. <https://tinyurl.com/ygbbop65>

....

The Americans are shit eaters.

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgl3r6$cc1$1@os.motzarella.org...
>
> In the last 50 years, the United States has spent around $10 trillion on
> overseas wars ranging from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and elsewhere
> in Africa and Latin America.

How much did the Soviet Union spend fomenting Communist uprisings?

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgl3ub$d94$1@os.motzarella.org...
>
> The Americans are shit eaters.

I just LUV Russian and Chinese rocket failures because, unlike the rest of
the world, they don't have "destruct" mechanisms in case the rocket goes
off-course, thanks to their paranoia about "spies" hacking into the destruct
frequency, so the rocket falls back to the ground intact.

KABOOM!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VR-AxrLtW8&t=42s

Byker the Shithead, <news:EcSdnbas8eBzNLL8nZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@earthlink.com>
> "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgl3ub$d94$1@os.motzarella.org...

>> The Americans are shit eaters.
>
> I just LUV Russian and Chinese rocket failures because, unlike the rest of

"There is shit in the meat," says Eric Schlosser, in his book Fast Food
Nation. Writing about the processing of chickens at factory farms in her
book Spoiled, author Nicols Fox says that the "final product is no different
than if you stuck it in the toilet and ate it." .. Dr. Greger also reports
the meat industry's efforts to cover up the information .. He quotes
industry insiders who admit that truly informed consumers are the last thing
they need .. <https://tinyurl.com/ygbbop65>

> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz54k5t> weeklyblitz.net
>
> Biden administration lies, didn't kill any ISIS-suspect in Afghanistan

| <https://on.rt.com/bfsv>
|
| Initially, CENTCOM said that there were "no indications" of civilian
| casualties from the "self-defense" strike. After local reports identified
| the victims by name, however, CENTCOM spokesman .. maintained that the
| casualties were caused not by the US drone, but by the explosion of the
| vehicle itself, however ..

Major Indonesia's news outlet refutes the claim.

| <https://tinyurl.com/yf24yl5z> sindonews.com
|
| The missile did hit not an explosive-laden car of the ISIS-K bombers but
| the car contained innocent children from the Ahmadi family. An adult from
| the family was near the car at the time of the attack and was killed as
| well. "The missile came and hit the car full of children near our house,"
| said Aimal Ahmadi, the brother of the car's owner ..