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 by: Frank Krygowski - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:49 UTC

On 9/27/2021 11:23 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
>> .
>> As I said, y'all elected them... And even more telling y'all run about
>> telling foreign folk that if they'd only accept democracy everything
>> would be wonderful. (:-)
>
> Biden was NOT elected and election audits are beginning to show that.

https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-finds-biden-won-by-more-votes-and-no-evidence-of-fraud/

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:54 UTC

On 9/27/2021 5:24 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> Ridiculous and profligate, the
> defense budget looks terrible except as compared to every other
> Department because they are all worse. Much worse.

Is there data to back that statement up?

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 by: John B. - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:58 UTC

On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:20:14 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
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>On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:29:20 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 9/27/2021 10:44 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:55:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> On 9/26/2021 9:12 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>>> On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 7:17:47 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>>>> On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 8:50:20 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> >>>>>> A bunch of foreigners thought the idea that "From each according to
>> >>>>>> his ability, to each according to his needs" was a good plan. Give
>> >>>>>> everyone what the actually need.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And a bunch of people moved to the U.S. (The Land Of Opportunity)
>> >>>>>> where they could get rich (:-)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> John B.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And then Franklin Delano Roosevelt came along in 1932 and started that communist, socialist, Social Security stuff. And WPA. A government giving its poor, old, unemployed citizens work and food and money? CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!
>> >>>> Another stupid ass that doesn't have a passing clue what he is talking about. There is and never was anything socialist about social security. Like all of you really bright economics majors, you think that a savings account is socialist.
>> >>>
>> >>> Wow. You demonstrate your stupidity and lack of financial sense every time you post. Amazing. Let me explain the basics of Social Security and savings accounts.
>> >>>
>> >>> With Social Security you contribute a small percent of your pay and your employer matches it. This goes to the federal government and they supposedly save and invest it. Then when you get to be 62 or more, you can receive some money based upon how much you contributed over your lifetime. Kind of like a perpetual annuity. The payments go until you die. So if you live to be 100, you can get 35 years of payments. No limit to the time or total amount taken out of Social Security.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now I know you are stupid financially. So let me explain a savings account. You put money in the bank and it gets a small interest amount. Later, when you are old maybe, you withdraw money from the savings account. Based on the amount you take out each month, it will run out eventually. Then, that is it. No more money. Do you understand the difference ignorant Tommy?
>> >>>
>> >>> With Social Security you can withdraw far more money than you ever put in. Can't do that with a savings account. You are financially stupid Tommy. As for socialism, it is kind of defined as taking from everyone based upon ability to pay, which Social Security does since it takes a small amount from wages, but not capital gains that the rich earn, and giving to everyone based upon need. Just like Social Security. It even has Social as in socialism in its name.
>> >>> "...It even has Social as in socialism in its name."
>> >> You are correct!
>> >> https://www.ssa.gov/policy/trust-funds-summary.html
>> >>
>> >> And why is that? (30 second video)
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYYR2viQzbU
>> >
>> > While I agree with Margaret Thatcherr on that point, it isn't SS that has anything to do with that. As you showed - even with this F-ing Democrat government we are still only paying 3.5% of payroll to SS. MOST of the money spent by the government is the military and their forever wars.
>> >
>> > The way you stop this is to re-institute the draft. If some college kid may lose his college and his life to these wars, we would see another flower generation and another Nixon stopping these wars.
>> >
>> WTF?
>>
>> Defense was half the budget in 1960. Now it's around 12%
>>
>> Which means 88% is just pure waste.
>
>Why? Does government have only one purpose -- to wage war? Half the budget is non-discretionary SS/Mediare/Medicaid, which, BTW, are also from dedicated funding sources and not the general fund, but they are still included in the budget. And are you saying that supporting Tom Kunich is waste? How could that be?
>
>And even if our military budget is only 12% of the total budget, its still three times higher than China. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/ One wonders why we need to outspend China by 3X. Maybe they buy from Ali-Express.
>
>-- Jay Beattie.

But, I wonder whether we are actually out spending China in terms of
product.
As an example I read that some companies are paying $15/hour in the
U.S. while the highest minimum salary I see posted for China is 24
Yuen/hour($3.70). I also read that a Chinese built Frigate seems to be
about $348 million per vessel to build and fit out and a U.S. built
Frigate is "about $1.2 billion".
Based on these numbers cost of military devices is likely far, far,
lower in China than in the U.S. so it does seem likely they, the
Chinese, are paying less and getting more.

--
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John B.

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
>> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
>>
>> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
>You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
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John B.

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:17:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 4:05:28 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 08:23:04 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
>> >>.
>> >> As I said, y'all elected them... And even more telling y'all run about
>> >> telling foreign folk that if they'd only accept democracy everything
>> >> would be wonderful. (:-)
>> >
>> >Biden was NOT elected and election audits are beginning to show that. I have said this a million times - The Democrats used the excuse of a "pandemic" that really didn't exist to send out mass mailings of ballots. Who received those and who sent them back? Were they legal voters? Trump made 3 million more votes than he did with Hillary. Are they trying to tell us that suddenly 5 million more people voted for the invisible and demented Biden? Bullshit.
>> Tommy boy, the Repulsive Republicans have attempted to demonstrate, in
>> the courts, some 21 separate times, that the election was flawed and
>> from what I read every suit has been thrown out of court because there
>> was no proof.
>>
>> Now, you can tell us that the election was fraudulent, just as you can
>> tell us that there are no Covid deaths or that there is no climate
>> change, and the question then becomes: (1) Are you really that stupid?
>> (2) are you telling lies to "prove" how smart you are? Or (3) are you
>> simply demonstrating that you really need a better selection of pills
>> to contain your delusions?
>>
>> Tell us Tommy, the whole world is awaiting your announcement with
>> bated breath.
>> (well, perhaps not the Whole world, but at least one or two
>> individuals)
>
>Too bad you don't have any connection to reality Johnny deadass.

So tell us, Tommy. What is your reality?

Just think, millions.... (well at least one or two) are waiting with
bated breath for you to reveal your vast knowledge of reality..
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John B.

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 21:49:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 9/27/2021 11:23 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
>>> .
>>> As I said, y'all elected them... And even more telling y'all run about
>>> telling foreign folk that if they'd only accept democracy everything
>>> would be wonderful. (:-)
>>
>> Biden was NOT elected and election audits are beginning to show that.
>
>https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-finds-biden-won-by-more-votes-and-no-evidence-of-fraud/

Just wondering, but your reference states that the audit cost 6
million dollars. Certainly that cost should not be born by the
citizens of the state of Arizona?

A far more fair and equitable system would be, I suggest, that if the
Republicans want an audit they should be prepared to pay for the
audit. Perhaps a small levy on each and every registered Republican
voter?
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John B.

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On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 6:11:56 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> > So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> >
> > Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Tommy, are you delusional or maybe extremely near sighted or unable to read? If you reread my post you will not see any references to government types. None. I did write East Germany and Czechoslovakia in my reply to your nonsense about European roads being gravel. Maybe you are inferring that since they were communist under the USSR, I therefore must be a communist because I rode into those countries in 1992. I think you would have to do some real wacky mental gymnastics to reach that conclusion. So that probably fits you perfectly.

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On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 6:13:28 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:44:44 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > While I agree with Margaret Thatcherr on that point, it isn't SS that has anything to do with that. As you showed - even with this F-ing Democrat government we are still only paying 3.5% of payroll to SS. MOST of the money spent by the government is the military and their forever wars.
> > >
> > > The way you stop this is to re-institute the draft. If some college kid may lose his college and his life to these wars, we would see another flower generation and another Nixon stopping these wars.
> > OH MY GOSH Tommy!!!!!!!! What F---ing reality do you inhabit? It must be a really F---ed up one.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
> > The Vietnam War , also known as the Second Indochina War, was a conflict in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955 to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. The war, considered a Cold War-era proxy war by some, lasted almost 20 years, with direct U.S. involvement ending in 1973,
> >
> > The fall of Saigon in 1975 happened when Gerald Ford was president after Nixon was impeached. Nixon was impeached in October 1973. He resigned in August 1974. Nixon became president in January 1969.
> >
> > But you, with your infinite wisdom and knowledge, think Nixon stopped the war? Wow!
> More ignorance from the left. When you don't know what happened don't act as if you did moron.

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, everything I posted about the Vietnam War and when the USA ended it and when Ford and Nixon served are just simple historical facts. Nothing too controversial or even anything to dispute. Simple facts I stated that prove you are dumb, stupid, and a liar.

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On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 8:15:23 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 08:53:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >
> >The interest payments on the National Debt of the US is more than the total income of Europe. Would you like to take that from us?
> Really Tommy? I ask as I read that the GDP of Europe is some $15,167
> Trillion (nominal; 2020) while interest on the U.S. debt is estimated
> to be $305 billion.
>
> Did you mix up "trillions" and "billions" Tommy?
> There really is a difference.
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.

Just to verify John's statements are correct and Tommy's are incorrect. I used evil Google to look up GDP for Europe. $15,167 trillion is exactly what I got too. GDP per capita was $35,623 in 2019. GDP of the USA was $21.43 trillion in 2019. GDP per capita was $65,297 in 2019. Europe population 447 million. USA population 328 million.

Both John and I have GDP of Europe of $15,167 trillion as reported by Google. But Google is wrong. It should state $15.167 trillion. Google used a comma instead of a period. Also 2019 and 2020 numbers are somewhat intermixed.

My Google search says $378 billion interest payment on the USA federal debt from Oct 2020 to Sep 2021.

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On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> >> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> >>
> >> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> >You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
> line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
> the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
> vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
>
> John B.

Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.

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On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 00:31:38 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
>> >> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
>> >>
>> >> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
>> >You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
>> Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
>> line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
>> the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
>> vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
>>
>> John B.
>
>Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.

Re good people. I've lived in a number of countries and frankly I see
very little difference, well except for the language, in the people
ranging from working folks to the "gentry" in countries ranging from
democracies to virtual dictatorships. Some are good and some are bad.
--
Cheers,

John B.

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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> > >> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> > >>
> > >> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> > >You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass..
> > Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
> > line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
> > the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
> > vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
> >
> > John B.
>
> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water.. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.

You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A

Lou

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On 9/28/2021 3:30 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
>>>>> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
>>>> You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
>>> Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
>>> line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
>>> the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
>>> vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
>>>
>>> John B.
>>
>> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
>
>
> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
>
> Lou
>

+1
Regular army fought for their country and deserve at least
respect for that. SS & Gestapo are another thing entirely.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:30:51 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> > > >> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> > > >>
> > > >> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new.. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> > > >You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> > > Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
> > > line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
> > > the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
> > > vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
> > >
> > > John B.
> >
> > Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A

After Germany was defeated and civilians were putting up white flags to show they were offering no resistance, the SS was going door to door dragging civilians out into the street and executing them. On the other side of the coin several SS officers were involved the anti-Hitler resistance after they discovered what he was doing. I have no pity for anyone who believed in Deutschland uber alles. I also have no pity for the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime Stream Media.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:21 UTC

On 9/27/2021 11:46 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 21:49:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2021 11:23 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
>>>> .
>>>> As I said, y'all elected them... And even more telling y'all run about
>>>> telling foreign folk that if they'd only accept democracy everything
>>>> would be wonderful. (:-)
>>>
>>> Biden was NOT elected and election audits are beginning to show that.
>>
>> https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-finds-biden-won-by-more-votes-and-no-evidence-of-fraud/
>
> Just wondering, but your reference states that the audit cost 6
> million dollars. Certainly that cost should not be born by the
> citizens of the state of Arizona?
>
> A far more fair and equitable system would be, I suggest, that if the
> Republicans want an audit they should be prepared to pay for the
> audit. Perhaps a small levy on each and every registered Republican
> voter?

I don't know the details of how the freshman outsider audit team got
paid. But the right wing is desperately trying to hold on to its fantasy
that Trump did not lose. Also that masks cause cancer, that vaccines
magnetize people and allow Bill Gates to track them, that Obama caused
the recession, and much more. Tom is our prime local example.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:21:46 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 9/27/2021 11:46 PM, John B. wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 21:49:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> > <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/27/2021 11:23 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> >>>> .
> >>>> As I said, y'all elected them... And even more telling y'all run about
> >>>> telling foreign folk that if they'd only accept democracy everything
> >>>> would be wonderful. (:-)
> >>>
> >>> Biden was NOT elected and election audits are beginning to show that.
> >>
> >> https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-finds-biden-won-by-more-votes-and-no-evidence-of-fraud/
> >
> > Just wondering, but your reference states that the audit cost 6
> > million dollars. Certainly that cost should not be born by the
> > citizens of the state of Arizona?
> >
> > A far more fair and equitable system would be, I suggest, that if the
> > Republicans want an audit they should be prepared to pay for the
> > audit. Perhaps a small levy on each and every registered Republican
> > voter?
> I don't know the details of how the freshman outsider audit team got
> paid. But the right wing is desperately trying to hold on to its fantasy
> that Trump did not lose. Also that masks cause cancer, that vaccines
> magnetize people and allow Bill Gates to track them, that Obama caused
> the recession, and much more. Tom is our prime local example.

"Freshman" That shows what a mothering POS you are. Right now if you were within reach I would beat your face into putty. Please say that in your own group. I am sure that you will get the same response.

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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:21:46 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 9/27/2021 11:46 PM, John B. wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 21:49:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> > <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/27/2021 11:23 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> >>>> .
> >>>> As I said, y'all elected them... And even more telling y'all run about
> >>>> telling foreign folk that if they'd only accept democracy everything
> >>>> would be wonderful. (:-)
> >>>
> >>> Biden was NOT elected and election audits are beginning to show that.
> >>
> >> https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-finds-biden-won-by-more-votes-and-no-evidence-of-fraud/
> >
> > Just wondering, but your reference states that the audit cost 6
> > million dollars. Certainly that cost should not be born by the
> > citizens of the state of Arizona?
> >
> > A far more fair and equitable system would be, I suggest, that if the
> > Republicans want an audit they should be prepared to pay for the
> > audit. Perhaps a small levy on each and every registered Republican
> > voter?
> I don't know the details of how the freshman outsider audit team got
> paid. But the right wing is desperately trying to hold on to its fantasy
> that Trump did not lose. Also that masks cause cancer, that vaccines
> magnetize people and allow Bill Gates to track them, that Obama caused
> the recession, and much more. Tom is our prime local example.

By the way you stinking piece of offal. I have SHOWN the CDC statistics that only 2,000 people died of a respiratory disease more than normal and it was entirely in Mach and April of 2020. There have been NO excess respiratory disease deaths since then and the entire first half of 2021 the rates of respiratory illnesses was significantly below normal. It has not come back to normal. I know that there is nothing that you won't do to try to convince people that covid-19 is a deadly illness but it isn't as bad as the flu. The Democrats have used it as an excuse to commit election fraud and the reckoning is that these people are guilty of Treason. We now have complete FBI emails that prove that they were part of the fraud. This is why you bastards will do anything to maintain a false fear of a pandemic that never was. Your only hope of maintaining control is to continue election fraud. People are growing tired of masks and lockdowns though and this is about to blow up in your face. At that point ANY Democrat is going to discover their cancel culture is being turned on them. Poor little deluded Frank.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:56 UTC

On 9/28/2021 11:28 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:21:46 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 9/27/2021 11:46 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 21:49:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/27/2021 11:23 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> As I said, y'all elected them... And even more telling y'all run about
>>>>>> telling foreign folk that if they'd only accept democracy everything
>>>>>> would be wonderful. (:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Biden was NOT elected and election audits are beginning to show that.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-finds-biden-won-by-more-votes-and-no-evidence-of-fraud/
>>>
>>> Just wondering, but your reference states that the audit cost 6
>>> million dollars. Certainly that cost should not be born by the
>>> citizens of the state of Arizona?
>>>
>>> A far more fair and equitable system would be, I suggest, that if the
>>> Republicans want an audit they should be prepared to pay for the
>>> audit. Perhaps a small levy on each and every registered Republican
>>> voter?
>> I don't know the details of how the freshman outsider audit team got
>> paid. But the right wing is desperately trying to hold on to its fantasy
>> that Trump did not lose. Also that masks cause cancer, that vaccines
>> magnetize people and allow Bill Gates to track them, that Obama caused
>> the recession, and much more. Tom is our prime local example.
>
> "Freshman" That shows what a mothering POS you are. Right now if you were within reach I would beat your face into putty.

:-) Thanks for the morning chuckle!

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: AMuzi - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:59 UTC

On 9/28/2021 9:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:30:51 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
>>>>>> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
>>>>> You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
>>>> Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
>>>> line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
>>>> the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
>>>> vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
>>>>
>>>> John B.
>>>
>>> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
>> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
>
> After Germany was defeated and civilians were putting up white flags to show they were offering no resistance, the SS was going door to door dragging civilians out into the street and executing them. On the other side of the coin several SS officers were involved the anti-Hitler resistance after they discovered what he was doing. I have no pity for anyone who believed in Deutschland uber alles. I also have no pity for the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime Stream Media.
>

Uh, no.
Valkyrie Plot was regular Army not SS. It's well documented,
not a mystery.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 16:00 UTC

On 9/28/2021 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> I have SHOWN the CDC statistics that only 2,000 people died of a respiratory disease more than normal and it was entirely in Mach and April of 2020.

Why are you not protesting at your state capitol? You could put that
statement on a sign on a stick!

For maximum effectiveness, wear a robe and sandals as you march. It's
the right image.

But please put your name at the bottom of the sign. Your reputation
needs to spread beyond this little group.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 16:34 UTC

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:59:21 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 9/28/2021 9:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:30:51 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo..com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> >>>>>> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new.. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> >>>>> You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> >>>> Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
> >>>> line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
> >>>> the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
> >>>> vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
> >>>>
> >>>> John B.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
> >> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
> >
> > After Germany was defeated and civilians were putting up white flags to show they were offering no resistance, the SS was going door to door dragging civilians out into the street and executing them. On the other side of the coin several SS officers were involved the anti-Hitler resistance after they discovered what he was doing. I have no pity for anyone who believed in Deutschland uber alles. I also have no pity for the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime Stream Media.
> >
> Uh, no.
> Valkyrie Plot was regular Army not SS. It's well documented,
> not a mystery.

Most of the information about the SS and them murdering German civilians has strangely disappeared off of the Internet. We know that it wasn't the Germans who did this. So how and who did it? It was common knowledge that there were marauding SS groups acting as pro-Hitler vigilantes after the war had ended and that it took several months to track these groups down and put an end to them (actually when they ran out of ammunition and supplies to make war most of them returned home and pretended to have been normal German soldiers). This is reported in books and books so you cannot hide the written word.

What has the Valkyrie Plot have to do with anything? This was regular German Army OFFICERS and these sorts of things are common throughout history. "Friends, Romans and Countrymen, lend me your ears. I come to bury Caesar not to praise him. The evil men do live after them, the good is oft interred with their bones. So let it be with Caesar."

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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 9/28/2021 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > I have SHOWN the CDC statistics that only 2,000 people died of a respiratory disease more than normal and it was entirely in Mach and April of 2020.
> Why are you not protesting at your state capitol? You could put that
> statement on a sign on a stick!
>
> For maximum effectiveness, wear a robe and sandals as you march. It's
> the right image.
>
> But please put your name at the bottom of the sign. Your reputation
> needs to spread beyond this little group.

Frank, again, I suggest you say these sorts of things in front of the normal people you call your friends so that you can discover who your friends are and who is beating you to death.

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On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 11:43:23 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 5:49:02 PM UTC-7, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > > On 9/23/2021 9:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > Trump was entirely self financed. That is why he spent so much less than Hillary.
> > > > Such bullshit!
> > > Frank, you get more hilarious every posting. You ignorance grows by the second. I suppose that like Biden you have serious dementia tearing your brains to pieces. How hard would it have been to look this up? You just can't wrap your mind around your own failures. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/
> > That article says clearly that Trump's campaign was NOT "entirely self financed" as you claimed.
> > Tom, please find someone who can help you with reading comprehension.
> I could have predicted that you would say that. Trump received money supposedly for his campaign almost entire in the last few months of the election cycle and so that was NOT campaign money but that which ended up in the campaign funds of Republican candidates that were other than Trump.

Sorry sparky, your weblink states;
"First, Trump’s self-financing only really picked up in the last three months of 2015. From the start of his campaign in April through October last year, individual contributions made up about 67 percent of total money raised for his campaign."

You might want to try reading a link before you send it, because at no point does that link support your assertion "Trump was entirely self financed". Your delusions are getting worse. I'm actually looking forward to the day when you refuse to use your computer because you're afraid democrats are using it to steal all of your intellectual property.

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:27 UTC

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:36:17 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 9/28/2021 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >
> > > I have SHOWN the CDC statistics that only 2,000 people died of a respiratory disease more than normal and it was entirely in Mach and April of 2020.
> > Why are you not protesting at your state capitol? You could put that
> > statement on a sign on a stick!
> >
> > For maximum effectiveness, wear a robe and sandals as you march. It's
> > the right image.
> >
> > But please put your name at the bottom of the sign. Your reputation
> > needs to spread beyond this little group.
> Frank, again, I suggest you say these sorts of things in front of the normal people you call your friends so that you can discover who your friends are and who is beating you to death.

Going out on a limb here, to suggest frank wouldn't speak to his friends like that because, well, he probably doesn't have friends like you - that is, ignorant arrogant narcissistic assholes.

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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:24:26 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 11:43:23 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 5:49:02 PM UTC-7, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > > > On 9/23/2021 9:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > Trump was entirely self financed. That is why he spent so much less than Hillary.
> > > > > Such bullshit!
> > > > Frank, you get more hilarious every posting. You ignorance grows by the second. I suppose that like Biden you have serious dementia tearing your brains to pieces. How hard would it have been to look this up? You just can't wrap your mind around your own failures. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/
> > > That article says clearly that Trump's campaign was NOT "entirely self financed" as you claimed.
> > > Tom, please find someone who can help you with reading comprehension.
> > I could have predicted that you would say that. Trump received money supposedly for his campaign almost entire in the last few months of the election cycle and so that was NOT campaign money but that which ended up in the campaign funds of Republican candidates that were other than Trump.
>
> Sorry sparky, your weblink states;
> "First, Trump’s self-financing only really picked up in the last three months of 2015. From the start of his campaign in April through October last year, individual contributions made up about 67 percent of total money raised for his campaign."
>
> You might want to try reading a link before you send it, because at no point does that link support your assertion "Trump was entirely self financed". Your delusions are getting worse. I'm actually looking forward to the day when you refuse to use your computer because you're afraid democrats are using it to steal all of your intellectual property.
Showing that you just can't read "Trump’s campaign brought in about $19.4 million by the end of 2015. Trump contributed nearly $13 million of that himself. Most of the remainder comes from individual contributions, which federal law caps at $2,700 per candidate per election." We know you're not the sharpest tool in the toolbox, but Trump donated MOST of the additional 47 million to other Republican candidate campaigns.

What is really funny is that you're telling us that it only took Trump 3 months of campaigning to defeat Hillary. At that rate, I could have beat her in six months.

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