On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:27:02 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:36:17 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > On 9/28/2021 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have SHOWN the CDC statistics that only 2,000 people died of a respiratory disease more than normal and it was entirely in Mach and April of 2020.
> > > Why are you not protesting at your state capitol? You could put that
> > > statement on a sign on a stick!
> > >
> > > For maximum effectiveness, wear a robe and sandals as you march. It's
> > > the right image.
> > >
> > > But please put your name at the bottom of the sign. Your reputation
> > > needs to spread beyond this little group.
> > Frank, again, I suggest you say these sorts of things in front of the normal people you call your friends so that you can discover who your friends are and who is beating you to death.
> Going out on a limb here, to suggest frank wouldn't speak to his friends like that because, well, he probably doesn't have friends like you - that is, ignorant arrogant narcissistic assholes.

Going out to the edge of the bark here I would say that like you, the only friends he has are Facebook Friends that would drop him like a hot potato if they really knew him.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:24:26 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 11:43:23 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 5:49:02 PM UTC-7, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > > > On 9/23/2021 9:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > Trump was entirely self financed. That is why he spent so much less than Hillary.
> > > > > Such bullshit!
> > > > Frank, you get more hilarious every posting. You ignorance grows by the second. I suppose that like Biden you have serious dementia tearing your brains to pieces. How hard would it have been to look this up? You just can't wrap your mind around your own failures. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/
> > > That article says clearly that Trump's campaign was NOT "entirely self financed" as you claimed.
> > > Tom, please find someone who can help you with reading comprehension.
> > I could have predicted that you would say that. Trump received money supposedly for his campaign almost entire in the last few months of the election cycle and so that was NOT campaign money but that which ended up in the campaign funds of Republican candidates that were other than Trump.
>
> Sorry sparky, your weblink states;
> "First, Trump’s self-financing only really picked up in the last three months of 2015. From the start of his campaign in April through October last year, individual contributions made up about 67 percent of total money raised for his campaign."
>
> You might want to try reading a link before you send it, because at no point does that link support your assertion "Trump was entirely self financed". Your delusions are getting worse. I'm actually looking forward to the day when you refuse to use your computer because you're afraid democrats are using it to steal all of your intellectual property.

Showing that you just can't read "Trump’s campaign brought in about $19.4 million by the end of 2015. Trump contributed nearly $13 million of that himself. Most of the remainder comes from individual contributions, which federal law caps at $2,700 per candidate per election." We know you're not the sharpest tool in the toolbox, but Trump donated MOST of the additional 47 million to other Republican candidate campaigns.

What is really funny is that you're telling us that it only took Trump 3 months of campaigning to defeat Hillary. At that rate, I could have beat her in six months.

On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:59:20 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 9/28/2021 9:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:30:51 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
>>>>>>> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
>>>>>> You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
>>>>> Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
>>>>> line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
>>>>> the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
>>>>> vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
>>>>>
>>>>> John B.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
>>> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
>>
>> After Germany was defeated and civilians were putting up white flags to show they were offering no resistance, the SS was going door to door dragging civilians out into the street and executing them. On the other side of the coin several SS officers were involved the anti-Hitler resistance after they discovered what he was doing. I have no pity for anyone who believed in Deutschland uber alles. I also have no pity for the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime Stream Media.
>>
>
>Uh, no.
>Valkyrie Plot was regular Army not SS. It's well documented,
>not a mystery.

I think that his reference to "the SS was going door to door" is
actually a reference to the German authorities ordered the
establishment of summary Courts; these were mobile tribunals set up to
track down deserters (or suspected deserters) and hang them.
Established February 15, 1945.

I have read reference to this in a number of publications always in
reference to the fall of Berlin and from what I read were carried out
by German Army personnel.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 9/28/2021 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >
>> > I have SHOWN the CDC statistics that only 2,000 people died of a respiratory disease more than normal and it was entirely in Mach and April of 2020.
>> Why are you not protesting at your state capitol? You could put that
>> statement on a sign on a stick!
>>
>> For maximum effectiveness, wear a robe and sandals as you march. It's
>> the right image.
>>
>> But please put your name at the bottom of the sign. Your reputation
>> needs to spread beyond this little group.
>
>Frank, again, I suggest you say these sorts of things in front of the normal people you call your friends so that you can discover who your friends are and who is beating you to death.

What ever are you going on about Tommy? Her's Frank advocating that
you get up off your butt and get out there and become famous.

And you are insulting and threatening him.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 9/28/2021 5:27 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:36:17 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Frank, again, I suggest you say these sorts of things in front of the normal people you call your friends so that you can discover who your friends are and who is beating you to death.
>
> Going out on a limb here, to suggest frank wouldn't speak to his friends like that because, well, he probably doesn't have friends like you - that is, ignorant arrogant narcissistic assholes.

That is precisely true.

I'm sorry to report that I actually have met ignorant arrogant
narcissistic assholes quite a bit like Tom. My friends and I diligently
avoid them.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:30:51 AM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> > > >> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> > > >>
> > > >> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new.. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> > > >You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> > > Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
> > > line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
> > > the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
> > > vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
> > >
> > > John B.
> >
> > Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
>
> Lou

I also visited Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands, Belgium on that ride. But I only speak English. Can you communicate in the native language of all the countries I visited? I probably also communicated with impromptu sign language and gestures too.

Maybe us Americans lump Germany and Nazis into one category when discussing WW2. I believe Nazi was a political party represented by Hitler. Everyone in Germany was not part of the Nazi political party. And not everyone who fought in WW2 from Germany was a member of the Nazi party. But Nazis and Germany are considered the same thing to Americans when referring to WW2. Kind of like we say Netherlands, Dutch, Holland. All the same thing to us.. But technically, officially, to you there are probably differences.

I visited the cemeteries at Normandy beach in France. Very somber. Oddly, the one thing that has remained with me from that visit was how well the grass was cut. Not a single blade of grass was out of place. I am positive the groundskeepers who were not good enough to cut the grass at Normandy were exported back to the US and assigned the second rate job of cutting grass at the White House.

On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:56:45 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:

> I also have no pity for
> the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an
> illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime
> Stream Media.

Perhaps the 'slime media' have trouble differentiating the 'illegal
invasion of Syria' from the other regular 'illegal invasions' carried out
by the USA.

On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:28:36 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
> "Freshman" That shows what a mothering POS you are. Right now if you
> were within reach I would beat your face into putty. Please say that in
> your own group. I am sure that you will get the same response.

Hey, silly little tommy; do you know what a freshman is?
Or is this some CA sub-tribe slang?

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:25:58 PM UTC-5, News 2021 wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:56:45 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
> > I also have no pity for
> > the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an
> > illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime
> > Stream Media.
> Perhaps the 'slime media' have trouble differentiating the 'illegal
> invasion of Syria' from the other regular 'illegal invasions' carried out
> by the USA.

Needless to say, I am having a little trouble figuring out what exactly Tommy boy is talking about. We have been monkeying around inside of Syria since 2013. Obama started it I guess. Bad Obama!!!! But Trump was happy, happy, happy to continue it. And I guess Biden is still there too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war
"On 23 November 2019, the head of U.S. Central Command stated there was no "end date" on the U.S.'s intervention in Syria."
Trumpy was president in November 2019, I'll state that just in case Tommy boy wants to dispute that real simple fact.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:31:13 PM UTC-5, News 2021 wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:28:36 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
> > "Freshman" That shows what a mothering POS you are. Right now if you
> > were within reach I would beat your face into putty. Please say that in
> > your own group. I am sure that you will get the same response.
> Hey, silly little tommy; do you know what a freshman is?
> Or is this some CA sub-tribe slang?

I will admit to not picking up on that one. Tommy has reminded us many times he did not graduate from high school. He has no high school diploma. He claims to have dropped out during his senior year in high school. Supposedly to join the air force. But based upon the number of times John has corrected his misstatements about the air force, that is very questionable. We are assuming Tommy completed his freshman, sophomore, and junior years before becoming a senior in high school. But since Tommy is a genius, as he tells us constantly, he may have just skipped all those grades and started as a senior. That is very likely. So he never was a freshman in school. And of course we know Tommy never ever enrolled in college so he was not a college freshman. So it is very likely that Tommy does not know what a freshman is.

On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:30:51 AM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > >> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
>> > > >> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
>> > > >You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
>> > > Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
>> > > line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
>> > > the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
>> > > vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
>> > >
>> > > John B.
>> >
>> > Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
>> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
>>
>> Lou
>
>I also visited Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands, Belgium on that ride. But I only speak English. Can you communicate in the native language of all the countries I visited? I probably also communicated with impromptu sign language and gestures too.
>
>Maybe us Americans lump Germany and Nazis into one category when discussing WW2. I believe Nazi was a political party represented by Hitler. Everyone in Germany was not part of the Nazi political party. And not everyone who fought in WW2 from Germany was a member of the Nazi party. But Nazis and Germany are considered the same thing to Americans when referring to WW2. Kind of like we say Netherlands, Dutch, Holland. All the same thing to us. But technically, officially, to you there are probably differences.

The 1933 election gave the National Socialist German Workers' Party
(NAZI) some 37.3% of the votes in the national election and Hitler was
appointed as Chancellor of Germany on 30 January 1933 and in March
1933 the Enabling Act gave the German Cabinet—most importantly, the
Chancellor—the powers to make and enforce laws without the involvement
of the Reichstag whereupon the Nazi party became the dominating factor
in the German Government and thus Germany.

As to how popular the Nazi party was? Unemployment was some 6 million
1933, when the Nazi party came into power and 3.3 million in 1934 and
by 1939 it was about 300,000. German currency was 4.2 to US$1.00 in
1933 and 2.61/$1,00 in 1934.

>I visited the cemeteries at Normandy beach in France. Very somber. Oddly, the one thing that has remained with me from that visit was how well the grass was cut. Not a single blade of grass was out of place. I am positive the groundskeepers who were not good enough to cut the grass at Normandy were exported back to the US and assigned the second rate job of cutting grass at the White House.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 01:25:55 -0000 (UTC), News 2021
<news21@woa.com.au> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:56:45 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
>
>> I also have no pity for
>> the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an
>> illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime
>> Stream Media.
>
>Perhaps the 'slime media' have trouble differentiating the 'illegal
>invasion of Syria' from the other regular 'illegal invasions' carried out
>by the USA.

But aren't all invasions essentially an illegal act?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:59:08 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:20:14 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
>
> Based on these numbers cost of military devices is likely far, far,
> lower in China than in the U.S. so it does seem likely they, the
> Chinese, are paying less and getting more.
>
Not to mention 90 billion dollars of best quality lethal military gear Biden gave the
Chicoms via Afghanistan.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:22:59 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> On 9/28/2021 3:30 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
> >
> >
> > You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
> >
> > Lou
> >
> +1
> Regular army fought for their country and deserve at least
> respect for that. SS & Gestapo are another thing entirely.
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

The Gestapo was just a police force corrupted by Goering who rolled up a bunch police agencies in Prussia into one, and after him by Himmler who made them into a national secret police. Basically, they were like the Chicago or Los Angeles Police Department: if they resigned, they wouldn't ever again find such a good job. Cops execute the law. Hitler was always very careful to have a law passed to cover his murders, albeit sometimes the day after the murder was committed, as happened when he put down Ernst Rohm's Brownshirts for being a lot more socialist than he was. A superior novel which has a very well researched section on this event is WINTER hy Len Deighton.

Andre Jute
May as well take our history in agreeable bites.

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:42:26 AM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:22:59 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 9/28/2021 3:30 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > >> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
> > >
> > > Lou
> > >
> > +1
> > Regular army fought for their country and deserve at least
> > respect for that. SS & Gestapo are another thing entirely.
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> The Gestapo was just a police force corrupted by Goering who rolled up a bunch police agencies in Prussia into one, and after him by Himmler who made them into a national secret police. Basically, they were like the Chicago or Los Angeles Police Department: if they resigned, they wouldn't ever again find such a good job. Cops execute the law. Hitler was always very careful to have a law passed to cover his murders, albeit sometimes the day after the murder was committed, as happened when he put down Ernst Rohm's Brownshirts for being a lot more socialist than he was. A superior novel which has a very well researched section on this event is WINTER hy Len Deighton.
>
> Andre Jute
> May as well take our history in agreeable bites.

Sorry, I started out making a comparison between the SS and the Gestapo and didn't return the the SS.

The SS, by contrast to the policemen in the Gestapo (at least in the beginning), were an elite force of true believers, sort of like a genuinely evil gang of Hell's Angels but with better haircuts and clear linen; it is no accident that their ancient totems are also the totems of the Hell's Angels. The key thing about them is that they idolized Hitler, and were tied to him personally. For them the oath of loyalty to Hitler personally was not taken with their fingers crossed behind their backs as it was for the Prussian aristocrats who operated the Third Reich's regular army, but enthusiastically.

Andre Jute
In the end these distinctions did not matter much: everyone was corrupted.

On 9/28/2021 8:58 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 01:25:55 -0000 (UTC), News 2021
> <news21@woa.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:56:45 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
>>
>>> I also have no pity for
>>> the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an
>>> illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime
>>> Stream Media.
>>
>> Perhaps the 'slime media' have trouble differentiating the 'illegal
>> invasion of Syria' from the other regular 'illegal invasions' carried out
>> by the USA.
>
> But aren't all invasions essentially an illegal act?
>

Not Kuwait.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:24:26 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 11:43:23 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 5:49:02 PM UTC-7, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > > > > On 9/23/2021 9:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > Trump was entirely self financed. That is why he spent so much less than Hillary.
> > > > > > Such bullshit!
> > > > > Frank, you get more hilarious every posting. You ignorance grows by the second. I suppose that like Biden you have serious dementia tearing your brains to pieces. How hard would it have been to look this up? You just can't wrap your mind around your own failures. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/
> > > > That article says clearly that Trump's campaign was NOT "entirely self financed" as you claimed.
> > > > Tom, please find someone who can help you with reading comprehension.
> > > I could have predicted that you would say that. Trump received money supposedly for his campaign almost entire in the last few months of the election cycle and so that was NOT campaign money but that which ended up in the campaign funds of Republican candidates that were other than Trump.
> >
> > Sorry sparky, your weblink states;
> > "First, Trump’s self-financing only really picked up in the last three months of 2015. From the start of his campaign in April through October last year, individual contributions made up about 67 percent of total money raised for his campaign."
> >
> > You might want to try reading a link before you send it, because at no point does that link support your assertion "Trump was entirely self financed". Your delusions are getting worse. I'm actually looking forward to the day when you refuse to use your computer because you're afraid democrats are using it to steal all of your intellectual property.
>
> Showing that you just can't read "Trump’s campaign brought in about $19.4 million by the end of 2015. Trump contributed nearly $13 million of that himself.
> Most of the remainder comes from individual contributions, which federal law caps at $2,700 per candidate per election."

Which completely disproves your claim "Trump was entirely self financed". Let me make so simple that even _you_ can understand it, sparky: ~19.4M minus ~13M means that ~ 5.6M came from other sources, not trump, which by definition means he was _not_ "entirely self financed". In other words, you are wrong, like you are about most things you post here.

> We know you're not the sharpest tool in the toolbox, but Trump donated MOST of the additional 47 million to other Republican candidate campaigns.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with your false claim that "Trump was entirely self financed".

>
> What is really funny is that you're telling us that it only took Trump 3 months of campaigning to defeat Hillary. At that rate, I could have beat her in six months.

Which also has absolutely nothing to do with your false claim that "Trump was entirely self financed". the only thing you beat hillary at is being an ignorant arrogant narcissistic asshole.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 4:50:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:59:20 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
> >On 9/28/2021 9:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:30:51 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail..com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> >>>>>>> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> >>>>>> You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> >>>>> Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
> >>>>> line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
> >>>>> the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
> >>>>> vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John B.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
> >>> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
> >>
> >> After Germany was defeated and civilians were putting up white flags to show they were offering no resistance, the SS was going door to door dragging civilians out into the street and executing them. On the other side of the coin several SS officers were involved the anti-Hitler resistance after they discovered what he was doing. I have no pity for anyone who believed in Deutschland uber alles. I also have no pity for the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime Stream Media.
> >>
> >
> >Uh, no.
> >Valkyrie Plot was regular Army not SS. It's well documented,
> >not a mystery.
> I think that his reference to "the SS was going door to door" is
> actually a reference to the German authorities ordered the
> establishment of summary Courts; these were mobile tribunals set up to
> track down deserters (or suspected deserters) and hang them.
> Established February 15, 1945.
>
> I have read reference to this in a number of publications always in
> reference to the fall of Berlin and from what I read were carried out
> by German Army personnel.

John, these SS groups were marauders and nothing else. They were not looking for deserters though they might have found some. They were executing mainly German civilians who were marking their own homes with a white flag to show that they intended no resistance to the Allies. This wasn't a case or two but often entire villages starting with the mayor of the town.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 4:53:31 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> On 9/28/2021 11:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I have SHOWN the CDC statistics that only 2,000 people died of a respiratory disease more than normal and it was entirely in Mach and April of 2020.
> >> Why are you not protesting at your state capitol? You could put that
> >> statement on a sign on a stick!
> >>
> >> For maximum effectiveness, wear a robe and sandals as you march. It's
> >> the right image.
> >>
> >> But please put your name at the bottom of the sign. Your reputation
> >> needs to spread beyond this little group.
> >
> >Frank, again, I suggest you say these sorts of things in front of the normal people you call your friends so that you can discover who your friends are and who is beating you to death.
> What ever are you going on about Tommy? Her's Frank advocating that
> you get up off your butt and get out there and become famous.
>
> And you are insulting and threatening him.

John, you certainly spend a great deal of time being a fool. Do you just like the costume?

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 6:25:58 PM UTC-7, News 2021 wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:56:45 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
> > I also have no pity for
> > the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an
> > illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime
> > Stream Media.
> Perhaps the 'slime media' have trouble differentiating the 'illegal
> invasion of Syria' from the other regular 'illegal invasions' carried out
> by the USA.
You and I are in complete agreement there. But I don't think you're willing to admit that they were all carried out by Democrats.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 6:31:13 PM UTC-7, News 2021 wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:28:36 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
> > "Freshman" That shows what a mothering POS you are. Right now if you
> > were within reach I would beat your face into putty. Please say that in
> > your own group. I am sure that you will get the same response.
> Hey, silly little tommy; do you know what a freshman is?
> Or is this some CA sub-tribe slang?
So, you are incapable of reading Frank's comments before commenting on my posting?

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 6:46:33 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:31:13 PM UTC-5, News 2021 wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:28:36 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
> > > "Freshman" That shows what a mothering POS you are. Right now if you
> > > were within reach I would beat your face into putty. Please say that in
> > > your own group. I am sure that you will get the same response.
> > Hey, silly little tommy; do you know what a freshman is?
> > Or is this some CA sub-tribe slang?
> I will admit to not picking up on that one. Tommy has reminded us many times he did not graduate from high school. He has no high school diploma. He claims to have dropped out during his senior year in high school. Supposedly to join the air force. But based upon the number of times John has corrected his misstatements about the air force, that is very questionable. We are assuming Tommy completed his freshman, sophomore, and junior years before becoming a senior in high school. But since Tommy is a genius, as he tells us constantly, he may have just skipped all those grades and started as a senior. That is very likely. So he never was a freshman in school. And of course we know Tommy never ever enrolled in college so he was not a college freshman. So it is very likely that Tommy does not know what a freshman is..
More inventive comments from another fool. A cowardly CPA who was frightened for his own life to join the service. My best friend was a 5' tall Japanese kid who joined the Marine Corp as a lifer. But you couldn't have made it through Army basic training let along a Marine. You couldn't make it though Navy basic training. And as for the Air Force, that little black TI I had would have broken you down to tears in 5 seconds. You are a nothing, you've always been a nothing and will always be a nothing because that is what you like to be.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 6:38:27 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:25:58 PM UTC-5, News 2021 wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:56:45 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:
> > > I also have no pity for
> > > the present American politicians who STARTED this administration with an
> > > illegal invasion of Syria that STILL hasn't been reported on the Slime
> > > Stream Media.
> > Perhaps the 'slime media' have trouble differentiating the 'illegal
> > invasion of Syria' from the other regular 'illegal invasions' carried out
> > by the USA.
> Needless to say, I am having a little trouble figuring out what exactly Tommy boy is talking about. We have been monkeying around inside of Syria since 2013. Obama started it I guess. Bad Obama!!!! But Trump was happy, happy, happy to continue it. And I guess Biden is still there too.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war
> "On 23 November 2019, the head of U.S. Central Command stated there was no "end date" on the U.S.'s intervention in Syria."
> Trumpy was president in November 2019, I'll state that just in case Tommy boy wants to dispute that real simple fact.
Why are you so stupid? Trump removed ALL American troops from Syria and stopped funding the "Syrian rebels" that Obama liked to call the Taliban and al Qaeda. Exactly what it the reason that you always have to talk about things about which you don't even have a passing clue? You stupid SOB - if American soldiers were already in Syria WHY WOULD BIDEN HAVE TO INVADE? As I said, you will ALWAYS be a nothing because you prefer ignorance and stupidity to being a normal person.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 6:50:07 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700 (PDT), "russell...@yahoo.com"
> <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:30:51 AM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC+2, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> >> > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > > >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > >> > Will you EVER stop with your bullshit? Mountain roads in Italy, Spain and France are often gravel or broken down asphalt.
> >> > > >> So it is very obvious that you a Trump licking Republican, have never ever actually been to Europe. I have. Three times. I have cycled on the Dolomites in northern Italy, the Alps in Switzerland, and lots of hilly roads in France and Portugal and Spain. And lots of roads in many other western European countries too. All the roads I was on were paved asphalt. No gravel and no broken down asphalt either. Europeans know how to keep excellent roads.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Fun story I like to tell. I rode from Czechoslovakia to Germany.. I rode into the former East Germany. Germany was reunited when I was there in 1992. When I crossed the line between former East and West, it was as obvious as the nose on your face. The road went from old cracked to smooth new. Even the plants changed at the line. Scraggly dying brush on the East side and instantly blossoming green vibrant trees and grass on the West side. Startling change right at that line between free and enslaved.
> >> > > >You are telling everyone here that you prefer communism? Well then North Korea is just for you. So long and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> >> > > Jeasus! You really don't have a clue, do you. The East side of the
> >> > > line, that he was talking about, with the "Scraggly dying brush" was
> >> > > the Communist side and the West side with the "blossoming green
> >> > > vibrant trees" was the side of the "good guys".
> >> > >
> >> > > John B.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks John for trying hopelessly to explain it to Tommy. Germany reunified in 1990 and I was there, in both former parts, in 1992. The only thing I will say against your reply is the good guys and communist side (bad side implied). On the former East side I stopped in a small town and was invited into the house by an old guy. I just sat at the table and drank some water. We could not talk because unlike all the young Germans, he did not know any English. So I just smiled and after a while thanked him with gestures probably and left. Continued my ride. I learned that there are good people in most, many places. The actions, philosophy of the government are not an accurate reflection of the people in a country. This old man probably was fighting for the Nazis in WW2 and lived 47 years under USSR communism. But he seemed good to me.
> >> You visit Germany and you can only communicate in your own language? Fighting for the nazi's, what does that mean? Most of them had to. 32000 poor bastards on a cemetery 30 km from my home:
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Ho5L7mMteoY7Wc9A
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> >I also visited Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands, Belgium on that ride. But I only speak English. Can you communicate in the native language of all the countries I visited? I probably also communicated with impromptu sign language and gestures too.
> >
> >Maybe us Americans lump Germany and Nazis into one category when discussing WW2. I believe Nazi was a political party represented by Hitler. Everyone in Germany was not part of the Nazi political party. And not everyone who fought in WW2 from Germany was a member of the Nazi party. But Nazis and Germany are considered the same thing to Americans when referring to WW2. Kind of like we say Netherlands, Dutch, Holland. All the same thing to us. But technically, officially, to you there are probably differences.
> The 1933 election gave the National Socialist German Workers' Party
> (NAZI) some 37.3% of the votes in the national election and Hitler was
> appointed as Chancellor of Germany on 30 January 1933 and in March
> 1933 the Enabling Act gave the German Cabinet—most importantly, the
> Chancellor—the powers to make and enforce laws without the involvement
> of the Reichstag whereupon the Nazi party became the dominating factor
> in the German Government and thus Germany.
>
> As to how popular the Nazi party was? Unemployment was some 6 million
> 1933, when the Nazi party came into power and 3.3 million in 1934 and
> by 1939 it was about 300,000. German currency was 4.2 to US$1.00 in
> 1933 and 2.61/$1,00 in 1934.
> >I visited the cemeteries at Normandy beach in France. Very somber. Oddly, the one thing that has remained with me from that visit was how well the grass was cut. Not a single blade of grass was out of place. I am positive the groundskeepers who were not good enough to cut the grass at Normandy were exported back to the US and assigned the second rate job of cutting grass at the White House.

At what point will you stop cutting and pasting things out of the Internet that you don't understand John? Germany was in a DEEP depression because of the financial burden that they were supposed to pay for WW I. Hitler simply said "Screw you, we ain't paying no more". He built a military despite the treaty forbidding it so that no other European country dared to try and enforce the treaty. THAT is why Hitler became so popular so fast. Then he was given still more power by the weakness of the other countries failure to enforce what from the very first was and unfair and unenforceable treaty. And as always; power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You understand nothing of the world outside of your little sphere and you don't have any idea of how to recognize the true meaning of anything. Will you STOP your stupidity?

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:59:08 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:20:14 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
> >
> > Based on these numbers cost of military devices is likely far, far,
> > lower in China than in the U.S. so it does seem likely they, the
> > Chinese, are paying less and getting more.
> >
> Not to mention 90 billion dollars of best quality lethal military gear Biden gave the
> Chicoms via Afghanistan.
Our Leftist friends don't have the slightest idea of the technology that no other country had that Biden handed over for free. But I think we all know that this wasn't Biden, but more likely Obama operating the Biden sock puppet.