Le 27/04/2024 à 16:47, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> W dniu 27.04.2024 o 13:04, Python pisze:

> Apart of insults I have a proof. And you have
> nothing, poor trash. Samely as your fellow
> idiots.

You should avoid responding to him, he says anything and often only
responds with insult and defamation.

He is crazy.

Besides, he says nonsense.

I tried to explain to him that, in certain cases, if the distances
traveled were equal, and the times measured by an observer were equal,
then the proper times could sometimes be equal, like here, where the
curves cross again at B, making the Tr equal, the To equal, and the
distances equal.

<http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?D3h7g8oe6iL_8IgRINVhOwAAXXc@jntp/Data.Media:1>

But he doesn't understand.

He denies it, and to discredit it, he lies.

It is part of the Usenautical Lie Empire.

R.H.

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Den 27.04.2024 23:54, skrev Richard Hachel:
> Le 27/04/2024 à 20:09, Python a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Translation of what *you* wrote about "t_B-t_A=t'_A-t_B." :
>>
>>     " Am I dreaming here? Einstein said that clocks are synchronized if
>>       they tick at the same rate? ? ? Is it what you mean?
>>       *Because the equation above means that.* "
>>
>> I'm definitely not lying.
>
> All these dialogues are turning crazy.
>
> We no longer understand anything you are saying.

Who's to blame?

>
> Are you sure a psychiatric consultation couldn't help you?

What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
claims that all the physicists in the world are idiots
because they claim that the speed of particles in accelerators
never can exceed the speed of light in vacuum,
and who claims that the protons in the Large Hadron Collider
are moving thousands of times faster than the speed of light?

I don't think this person could be helped by a psychiatrist, though.
He is beyond help.

--
Paul

https://paulba.no/

Le 28/04/2024 à 11:20, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
> What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
> claims that all the physicists in the world are idiots
> because they claim that the speed of particles in accelerators
> never can exceed the speed of light in vacuum,
> and who claims that the protons in the Large Hadron Collider
> are moving thousands of times faster than the speed of light?
>
> I don't think this person could be helped by a psychiatrist, though.
> He is beyond help.
>
> Paul

That's not what I'm saying, Paul.

I don't understand why a person of your quality would say such nonsense
about me (do you want to be like Python? Do you want your name in the
story to be attached to his?).

That's not what I said, Paul.

To understand people well, you have to read them.

If you don't read me, you'll say "Hachel is a moron."

And you will make me laugh.

Then you will sing: "I started a joke"...

That’s NOT what I wrote, that’s not what I said.

But... "there will therefore exist an impassable limit speed c which will
apply to all particles and all properties of physics".

This is what I wrote, and I would like people to judge my thoughts on what
I say and on what I write, and not on fantasies.

THANKS.

R.H.

On 2024-04-28 12:41:58 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

> To understand people well, you have to read them.

It is not necessary to understand people well, especially abnormal
people. If reading a little shows that a person is so disconnected
from reality that nothing they say is useful or so disconnected
from the common language that nothing they say can be understood
then the person is not worth of more attention.

--
Mikko

Le 29/04/2024 à 11:00, Mikko a écrit :
> It is not necessary to understand people well, especially abnormal
> people. If reading a little shows that a person is so disconnected
> from reality that nothing they say is useful or so disconnected
> from the common language that nothing they say can be understood
> then the person is not worth of more attention.
>
> Mikko

"If reading a little shows ....
then the person is not worth of more attention."

:))

Reading a microscopic little

C'est ce que je dis.

On appelle cela "la facilité".

R.H.

Den 28.04.2024 14:41, skrev Richard Hachel:
> Le 28/04/2024 à 11:20, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>> What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
>> claims that all the physicists in the world are idiots
>> because they claim that the speed of particles in accelerators
>> never can exceed the speed of light in vacuum,
>> and who claims that the protons in the Large Hadron Collider
>> are moving thousands of times faster than the speed of light?
>>
>> I don't think this person could be helped by a psychiatrist, though.
>> He is beyond help.
>>
>> Paul
>
> That's not what I'm saying, Paul.

| Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
|> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
|>>
|>> Are you claiming that the real speed of the protons in the LHC is
|>> Vr = 6927⋅c ?
|>
|> Absolutely.
|>
|> That's what I said.

| Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
|> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
|>>
|>> You are claiming that the protons are going around the ≈ 27 km ring
|>> ≈ 78 million times per second.
|>> The real value is ≈ 11.25 thousand times per second.
|>
|> CERN physicists are doing their job.
|> We have accustomed them to working at classic relativistic speed.
|> So it makes sense that they find the speed they expect.
|> I tell them that the proton rotates 78 million times per second,

>
> I don't understand why a person of your quality would say such nonsense
> about me .

You said what you now call nonsense.

--
Paul

https://paulba.no/

Le 29/04/2024 à 20:09, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 28.04.2024 14:41, skrev Richard Hachel:

>> That's not what I'm saying, Paul.

> |>> Are you claiming that the real speed of the protons in the LHC is
> |>> Vr = 6927⋅c ?
> |>
> |> Absolutely.
> |>
> |> That's what I said.

Yes, that's what I said.

But I never said that Vo=6927c

OK?

R.H.

Den 29.04.2024 23:43, skrev Richard Hachel:
> Le 29/04/2024 à 20:09, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>> Den 28.04.2024 14:41, skrev Richard Hachel:
>>> Le 28/04/2024 à 11:20, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :

>>>> What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
>>>> claims that the protons in the Large Hadron Collider
>>>> are moving thousands of times faster than the speed of light?
>>>>

>>
>> That's not what I'm saying, Paul.

>> | Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
>> |> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>> |>>
>> |>> Are you claiming that the real speed of the protons in the LHC is
>> |>> Vr = 6927⋅c ?
>> |>
>> |> Absolutely.
>> |>
>> |> That's what I said.

>
>  Yes, that's what I said.
>
>  But I never said that Vo=6927c
>
> OK?
>

So when you said that the real speed of protons in the LHC
was 6927⋅c, you didn't claim that the protons in the Large
Hadron Collider are moving thousands of times faster than
the speed of light? :-D

So let me rephrase:
What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
claims that all the physicists in the world are idiots
because they claim that the real speed of particles in
accelerators never can exceed the speed of light in vacuum,
and who claims that the real speed of protons in the Large
Hadron Collider are many thousands of times the speed of light?

Could you please tell us what you think the psychiatrist
would say about the person?

--
Paul, still finding Richard entertaining

https://paulba.no/

Le 30/04/2024 à 12:38, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 29.04.2024 23:43, skrev Richard Hachel:
>> Le 29/04/2024 à 20:09, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>>> Den 28.04.2024 14:41, skrev Richard Hachel:
>>>> Le 28/04/2024 à 11:20, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>
>>>>> What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
>>>>> claims that the protons in the Large Hadron Collider
>>>>> are moving thousands of times faster than the speed of light?
>>>>>
>
>>>
>>> That's not what I'm saying, Paul.
>
>>> | Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
>>> |> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>>> |>>
>>> |>> Are you claiming that the real speed of the protons in the LHC is
>>> |>> Vr = 6927⋅c ?
>>> |>
>>> |> Absolutely.
>>> |>
>>> |> That's what I said.
>
>>
>>  Yes, that's what I said.
>>
>>  But I never said that Vo=6927c
>>
>> OK?
>>
>
> So when you said that the real speed of protons in the LHC
> was 6927⋅c, you didn't claim that the protons in the Large
> Hadron Collider are moving thousands of times faster than
> the speed of light? :-D
>
> So let me rephrase:
> What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
> claims that all the physicists in the world are idiots
> because they claim that the real speed of particles in
> accelerators never can exceed the speed of light in vacuum,
> and who claims that the real speed of protons in the Large
> Hadron Collider are many thousands of times the speed of light?
>
> Could you please tell us what you think the psychiatrist
> would say about the person?

I would offer him my saddened condolences.

Because it is to be dead to want to argue with the good doctor Hachel on
the theory of relativity without understanding for a single second what he
is saying.

I think you have an intellectual problem.

Listen again: "There will therefore be an observable speed limit that is
impassable and will extend to all the particles and all the phenomena of
physics".

This is what I said, and which you disguise for obscure reasons.

So, it is obvious that in your particle collider, you will never be able
to find a particle with an observable speed greater than c.

In the case of particles with phenomenal speeds like Vr=6927c, this speed
must be transcribed into an observable value,
and we set Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²).

Vo=0.999999990c

R.H.

Richard Hachel wrote:

> Le 30/04/2024 à 12:38, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>> Could you please tell us what you think the psychiatrist would say
>> about the person?

> This is what I said, and which you disguise for obscure reasons.
> So, it is obvious that in your particle collider, you will never be able
> to find a particle with an observable speed greater than c.
> In the case of particles with phenomenal speeds like Vr=6927c, this
> speed must be transcribed into an observable value,
> and we set Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²). Vo=0.999999990c

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On 4/30/2024 7:32 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:

> In the case of particles with phenomenal speeds like Vr=6927c, this
> speed must be transcribed into an observable value,
> and we set Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²).
>
> Vo=0.999999990c
>
You are confusing rapidity with velocity. Rapidity is related to
velocity but it is not a velocity. It is measured as a hyperbolic angle.
No object can have a velocity greater than c but rapidity can have any
value. The rapidity of light is infinite. The particle with a rapidity
(not velocity) of 6927 will have a velocity of v=0.999999990c.

Le 01/05/2024 à 01:41, Volney a écrit :
> On 4/30/2024 7:32 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
>
>> In the case of particles with phenomenal speeds like Vr=6927c, this
>> speed must be transcribed into an observable value,
>> and we set Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²).
>>
>> Vo=0.999999990c
>>
> You are confusing rapidity with velocity. Rapidity is related to
> velocity but it is not a velocity. It is measured as a hyperbolic angle.
> No object can have a velocity greater than c but rapidity can have any
> value. The rapidity of light is infinite. The particle with a rapidity
> (not velocity) of 6927 will have a velocity of v=0.999999990c.

I like your sense of humor.

R.H.

Den 30.04.2024 13:32, skrev Richard Hachel:
> Le 30/04/2024 à 12:38, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>>
>> What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
>> claims that all the physicists in the world are idiots
>> because they claim that the real speed of particles in
>> accelerators never can exceed the speed of light in vacuum,
>> and who claims that the real speed of protons in the Large
>> Hadron Collider are many thousands of times the speed of light?
>>
>> Could you please tell us what you think the psychiatrist
>> would say about the person?

>
> I would offer him my saddened condolences.
>
> Because it is to be dead to want to argue with the good doctor Hachel on
> the theory of relativity without understanding for a single second what
> he is saying.

This is what Doctor Hackel is saying.
Very simple and clear, not possible to fail to understand:

| Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
|> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
|>>
|>> Are you claiming that the real speed of the protons in the LHC is
|>> Vr = 6927⋅c ?
|>
|> Absolutely.
|>
|> That's what I said.

| Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
|> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
|>>
|>> You are claiming that the protons are going around the ≈ 27 km ring
|>> ≈ 78 million times per second.
|>> The real value is ≈ 11.25 thousand times per second.
|>
|> CERN physicists are doing their job.
|> We have accustomed them to working at classic relativistic speed.
|> So it makes sense that they find the speed they expect.
|> I tell them that the proton rotates 78 million times per second,

>
> I think you have an intellectual problem.
>
> Listen again: "There will therefore be an observable speed limit that is
> impassable and will extend to all the particles and all the phenomena of
> physics".

You claim that the protons in the LHC are moving
with the speed 6927⋅c, and you claim that each proton
is moving around the ring 78 million times per second.

The physicist who designed and run the LHC know that
the machinery (RF-cavites, bending and focusing magnets)
can only work if the speed of the protons is slightly
less than c, which means that each proton is moving around
the ring ≈ 11.25 thousand times per second.

Do you still insist that you are right, and the physicists
that designed and run the LHC are ignorant of how the LHC
really works?

I bet you won't answer this question!

--
Paul

https://paulba.no/

Le 01/05/2024 à 13:57, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :

> I bet you won't answer this question!

Are you kidding me?

> You claim that the protons in the LHC are moving
with the speed 6927⋅c, and you claim that each proton
is moving around the ring 78 million times per second.

Absolutly.

And?

If you want to know the observation of things, you must use the notion of
observable speed, using the distance in the laboratory and the time
measured by the desynchronized clocks in the laboratory.
If you want to know the reality of things, you have to take the distance
traveled in the laboratory, and the correctly measured time which is that
of the proton (he only has a watch). It's very unintuitive, I know. But
things are like that.
It's so counter-intuitive that if I ask the particle to make a complete
revolution, it starts from A and returns to A, we'll say to ourselves:
"It's okay, I only have one watch!". And yet we make a mistake, it is the
same physical watch, of course, but it is no different from two watches
placed at A and at B, and whose straight line would have been curved so
that B coincides at A.

R.H.

Den 01.05.2024 14:20, skrev Richard Hachel:
> Le 01/05/2024 à 13:57, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>
>> You claim that the protons in the LHC are moving
>> with the speed 6927⋅c, and you claim that each proton
>> is moving around the ring 78 million times per second.
>>
>> The physicist who designed and run the LHC know that
>> the machinery (RF-cavites, bending and focusing magnets)
>> can only work if the speed of the protons is slightly
>> less than c, which means that each proton is moving around
>> the ring ≈ 11.25 thousand times per second.
>>
>> Do you still insist that you are right, and the physicists
>> that designed and run the LHC are ignorant of how the LHC
>> really works?

>
> Absolutly.
>

>> I bet you won't answer this question!

The reason why I thought you wouldn't answer the question
was that an affirmative answer would demonstrate that you are
irrational and are claiming what any sane person must know is wrong.

Since you don't understand that ...

> And?
> If you want to know the observation of things, you must use the notion
> of observable speed, using the distance in the laboratory and the time
> measured by the desynchronized clocks in the laboratory.
> If you want to know the reality of things, you have to take the distance
> traveled in the laboratory, and the correctly measured time which is
> that of the proton (he only has a watch). It's very unintuitive, I know.
> But things are like that.
> It's so counter-intuitive that if I ask the particle to make a complete
> revolution, it starts from A and returns to A, we'll say to ourselves:
> "It's okay, I only have one watch!". And yet we make a mistake, it is
> the same physical watch, of course, but it is no different from two
> watches placed at A and at B, and whose straight line would have been
> curved so that B coincides at A.
>
> R.H.
>

Good grief!
You are too irrational and nonsensical to qualify as a crank.
You are only a pathetic megalomaniac babbling utter nonsense.

Sorry, I won't waste more time on you.

<plonk>

--
Paul

https://paulba.no/

Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> The reason why I thought you wouldn't answer the question was that an
> affirmative answer would demonstrate that you are irrational and are
> claiming what any sane person must know is wrong. Since you don't
> understand that ...

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Am Donnerstag000022, 22.02.2024 um 15:26 schrieb Richard Hachel:
> Le 22/02/2024 à 13:37, tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) a
> écrit :
>> Richard Hachel wrote:
>>
>>> We must describe the Langevin as I do it
>>
>> No, we must understand, first of all, that
>> *** THERE IS NO PARADOX *** in the Langevin gedanken.
>
> To judge what a man (here me) says, you must first understand this man.
> If we give a man who does not know music theory the score of Mozart's
> 21st, he will only see signs written on paper, and will understand
> nothing of the beauty of the work.
> If I give you the explanations of Langevin's traveler, it is clear that
> you will not be able to appreciate the beauty of the concepts.
> For this, you would have to study and understand what I am saying.
> There is in Langevin's traveler a paradox that is irresolvable without
> going through Hachel. Physicists, not knowing what to do with it, divert
> the problem by proposing a very welcome gap time at the time of the
> U-turn. ...

'Langvin's traveller' contains a serious error.

https://hal.science/hal-01003084v1/file/Langevin_s_twin_paradox_and_the_forwards_and_backwards_movement_of_a_rotating_cylinder_experiment.pdf

SRT is about inertial frames of reference, but 'Langvin's traveller'
cannot travel inertially.

Instead he had to accelerate at an enormous rate, than decelerate with
the same rate but opposite direction, accelerate again and decelerate again.

But from e.g. Hafele-Keating we know, that acceleration has an influence
on clocks.

Therefore acceleration could not be ignored.

TH

TH

Le 11/05/2024 à 07:59, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> SRT is about inertial frames of reference, but 'Langvin's traveller'
> cannot travel inertially.
>
> Instead he had to accelerate at an enormous rate, than decelerate with
> the same rate but opposite direction, accelerate again and decelerate again.
>
> But from e.g. Hafele-Keating we know, that acceleration has an influence
> on clocks.
>
> Therefore acceleration could not be ignored.
>
> TH

Acceleration can be perfectly ignored.

It has no importance in the passage of time.

Its sole purpose is to increase or decrease speeds.

Nothing more.

I have been explaining all this for years now, and if no one seems to
admit it, we are dealing with miraculous blindness in the sense of the
text (divine sign).

Always, always, always, we will prefer a lot of bullshit rather than
admitting simple and obvious things. Humans are made like that. It is in
this sense that these things are miraculous.

R.H.