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by: Gerald Kelleher - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:00 UTC

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 3:59:06 PM UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 06:56:55 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:48:12?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:32:10 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:22:30?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 06:59:59 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 8:37:18?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:50:19 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:29:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >Silence of the "99%" does not mean consensus.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >There is a consensus among the "1%" who see the problem.
> >> >> >> >> >> You clearly don't know what the word means.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.
> >> >> >> >> I've encountered lots of discussion, at one conference in person, a
> >> >> >> >> couple of online ones, and in discussion forums. The reason that most
> >> >> >> >> astronomers aren't complaining is because they have no reason to,
> >> >> >> >> since satellites don't impact their work.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Then we'll listen to the complaints of those who DO have complaints. You implied that it was "1%."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Have you some stats to support your numbers?
> >> >> >> Indeed, it is far less than 1%. Only the tiniest fraction of
> >> >> >> astronomers are involved in survey work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Tiniest fraction" is not a stat. Provide exact numbers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You obviously believe "survey work" to be unimportant.
> >> >> Where did I say it was unimportant? But it is arguably far less
> >> >> important that serving billions of people with network access.
> >> >> Especially given that there are technical workarounds that allow
> >> >> survey work to continue.
> >> >
> >> >The detection of objects in space that can pose a serious threat to Earth is definitely far more important than providing access to TikTok (for example.)
> >> Most of the objects that pose a threat can only be detected by
> >> space-based systems. And as noted, survey projects can and will
> >> continue with simple methods to minimize problems with satellite
> >> interference.
> >
> >"Most" isn't good enough. It only takes one such object to create a catastrophe. These satellites will interfere with the search.
> >
> >So we are back to my earlier comment; 'The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.'
> No, these satellites will have almost no impact on such searches. And
> it will always be "most". You don't throw away something of huge
> benefit for a billion-to-one risk.
>
> Astronomers have discussed this. Extensively (you wouldn't know, since
> you have no contact with astronomers). And most don't see it as a
> problem. Because for most, it isn't.

They are experimental theorists and these people try to prove themselves right rather than actually make observations, interpretations and conclusions..

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by: W - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:26 UTC

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 10:59:06 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 06:56:55 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:48:12?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:32:10 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:22:30?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 06:59:59 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 8:37:18?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:50:19 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:29:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >Silence of the "99%" does not mean consensus.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >There is a consensus among the "1%" who see the problem.
> >> >> >> >> >> You clearly don't know what the word means.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.
> >> >> >> >> I've encountered lots of discussion, at one conference in person, a
> >> >> >> >> couple of online ones, and in discussion forums. The reason that most
> >> >> >> >> astronomers aren't complaining is because they have no reason to,
> >> >> >> >> since satellites don't impact their work.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Then we'll listen to the complaints of those who DO have complaints. You implied that it was "1%."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Have you some stats to support your numbers?
> >> >> >> Indeed, it is far less than 1%. Only the tiniest fraction of
> >> >> >> astronomers are involved in survey work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Tiniest fraction" is not a stat. Provide exact numbers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You obviously believe "survey work" to be unimportant.
> >> >> Where did I say it was unimportant? But it is arguably far less
> >> >> important that serving billions of people with network access.
> >> >> Especially given that there are technical workarounds that allow
> >> >> survey work to continue.
> >> >
> >> >The detection of objects in space that can pose a serious threat to Earth is definitely far more important than providing access to TikTok (for example.)
> >> Most of the objects that pose a threat can only be detected by
> >> space-based systems. And as noted, survey projects can and will
> >> continue with simple methods to minimize problems with satellite
> >> interference.
> >
> >"Most" isn't good enough. It only takes one such object to create a catastrophe. These satellites will interfere with the search.
> >
> >So we are back to my earlier comment; 'The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.'
> No, these satellites will have almost no impact on such searches. And
> it will always be "most". You don't throw away something of huge
> benefit for a billion-to-one risk.
>
> Astronomers have discussed this. Extensively (you wouldn't know, since
> you have no contact with astronomers). And most don't see it as a
> problem. Because for most, it isn't.

You are just rehashing your same incorrect opinions with the wording slightly changed.

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by: Chris L Peterson - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:48 UTC

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:32:10 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:22:30?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 06:59:59 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 8:37:18?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:50:19 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:29:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >Silence of the "99%" does not mean consensus.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >There is a consensus among the "1%" who see the problem.
>> >> >> >> You clearly don't know what the word means.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.
>> >> >> I've encountered lots of discussion, at one conference in person, a
>> >> >> couple of online ones, and in discussion forums. The reason that most
>> >> >> astronomers aren't complaining is because they have no reason to,
>> >> >> since satellites don't impact their work.
>> >> >
>> >> >Then we'll listen to the complaints of those who DO have complaints. You implied that it was "1%."
>> >> >
>> >> >Have you some stats to support your numbers?
>> >> Indeed, it is far less than 1%. Only the tiniest fraction of
>> >> astronomers are involved in survey work.
>> >
>> >"Tiniest fraction" is not a stat. Provide exact numbers.
>> >
>> >You obviously believe "survey work" to be unimportant.
>> Where did I say it was unimportant? But it is arguably far less
>> important that serving billions of people with network access.
>> Especially given that there are technical workarounds that allow
>> survey work to continue.
>
>The detection of objects in space that can pose a serious threat to Earth is definitely far more important than providing access to TikTok (for example.)

Most of the objects that pose a threat can only be detected by
space-based systems. And as noted, survey projects can and will
continue with simple methods to minimize problems with satellite
interference.

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by: W - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:56 UTC

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:48:12 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:32:10 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:22:30?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 06:59:59 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 8:37:18?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:50:19 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:29:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >Silence of the "99%" does not mean consensus.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >There is a consensus among the "1%" who see the problem.
> >> >> >> >> You clearly don't know what the word means.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.
> >> >> >> I've encountered lots of discussion, at one conference in person, a
> >> >> >> couple of online ones, and in discussion forums. The reason that most
> >> >> >> astronomers aren't complaining is because they have no reason to,
> >> >> >> since satellites don't impact their work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Then we'll listen to the complaints of those who DO have complaints. You implied that it was "1%."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Have you some stats to support your numbers?
> >> >> Indeed, it is far less than 1%. Only the tiniest fraction of
> >> >> astronomers are involved in survey work.
> >> >
> >> >"Tiniest fraction" is not a stat. Provide exact numbers.
> >> >
> >> >You obviously believe "survey work" to be unimportant.
> >> Where did I say it was unimportant? But it is arguably far less
> >> important that serving billions of people with network access.
> >> Especially given that there are technical workarounds that allow
> >> survey work to continue.
> >
> >The detection of objects in space that can pose a serious threat to Earth is definitely far more important than providing access to TikTok (for example.)
> Most of the objects that pose a threat can only be detected by
> space-based systems. And as noted, survey projects can and will
> continue with simple methods to minimize problems with satellite
> interference.

"Most" isn't good enough. It only takes one such object to create a catastrophe. These satellites will interfere with the search.

So we are back to my earlier comment; 'The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.'

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by: Chris L Peterson - Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:55 UTC

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:26:34 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 10:59:06?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 06:56:55 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:48:12?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:32:10 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:22:30?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 06:59:59 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 8:37:18?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:50:19 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:29:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Silence of the "99%" does not mean consensus.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >There is a consensus among the "1%" who see the problem.
>> >> >> >> >> >> You clearly don't know what the word means.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.
>> >> >> >> >> I've encountered lots of discussion, at one conference in person, a
>> >> >> >> >> couple of online ones, and in discussion forums. The reason that most
>> >> >> >> >> astronomers aren't complaining is because they have no reason to,
>> >> >> >> >> since satellites don't impact their work.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Then we'll listen to the complaints of those who DO have complaints. You implied that it was "1%."
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Have you some stats to support your numbers?
>> >> >> >> Indeed, it is far less than 1%. Only the tiniest fraction of
>> >> >> >> astronomers are involved in survey work.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Tiniest fraction" is not a stat. Provide exact numbers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You obviously believe "survey work" to be unimportant.
>> >> >> Where did I say it was unimportant? But it is arguably far less
>> >> >> important that serving billions of people with network access.
>> >> >> Especially given that there are technical workarounds that allow
>> >> >> survey work to continue.
>> >> >
>> >> >The detection of objects in space that can pose a serious threat to Earth is definitely far more important than providing access to TikTok (for example.)
>> >> Most of the objects that pose a threat can only be detected by
>> >> space-based systems. And as noted, survey projects can and will
>> >> continue with simple methods to minimize problems with satellite
>> >> interference.
>> >
>> >"Most" isn't good enough. It only takes one such object to create a catastrophe. These satellites will interfere with the search.
>> >
>> >So we are back to my earlier comment; 'The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.'
>> No, these satellites will have almost no impact on such searches. And
>> it will always be "most". You don't throw away something of huge
>> benefit for a billion-to-one risk.
>>
>> Astronomers have discussed this. Extensively (you wouldn't know, since
>> you have no contact with astronomers). And most don't see it as a
>> problem. Because for most, it isn't.
>
>You are just rehashing your same incorrect opinions with the wording slightly changed.

You have no clue.

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by: W - Thu, 13 Apr 2023 15:18 UTC

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 9:55:36 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:26:34 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 10:59:06?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 06:56:55 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:48:12?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:32:10 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:22:30?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 06:59:59 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 8:37:18?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:50:19 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:29:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Silence of the "99%" does not mean consensus.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >There is a consensus among the "1%" who see the problem.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You clearly don't know what the word means.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.
> >> >> >> >> >> I've encountered lots of discussion, at one conference in person, a
> >> >> >> >> >> couple of online ones, and in discussion forums. The reason that most
> >> >> >> >> >> astronomers aren't complaining is because they have no reason to,
> >> >> >> >> >> since satellites don't impact their work.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Then we'll listen to the complaints of those who DO have complaints. You implied that it was "1%."
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Have you some stats to support your numbers?
> >> >> >> >> Indeed, it is far less than 1%. Only the tiniest fraction of
> >> >> >> >> astronomers are involved in survey work.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Tiniest fraction" is not a stat. Provide exact numbers.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You obviously believe "survey work" to be unimportant.
> >> >> >> Where did I say it was unimportant? But it is arguably far less
> >> >> >> important that serving billions of people with network access.
> >> >> >> Especially given that there are technical workarounds that allow
> >> >> >> survey work to continue.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The detection of objects in space that can pose a serious threat to Earth is definitely far more important than providing access to TikTok (for example.)
> >> >> Most of the objects that pose a threat can only be detected by
> >> >> space-based systems. And as noted, survey projects can and will
> >> >> continue with simple methods to minimize problems with satellite
> >> >> interference.
> >> >
> >> >"Most" isn't good enough. It only takes one such object to create a catastrophe. These satellites will interfere with the search.
> >> >
> >> >So we are back to my earlier comment; 'The astronomers who are not complaining have not reached a "consensus" because they have not even discussed the situation.'
> >> No, these satellites will have almost no impact on such searches. And
> >> it will always be "most". You don't throw away something of huge
> >> benefit for a billion-to-one risk.
> >>
> >> Astronomers have discussed this. Extensively (you wouldn't know, since
> >> you have no contact with astronomers). And most don't see it as a
> >> problem. Because for most, it isn't.
> >
> >You are just rehashing your same incorrect opinions with the wording slightly changed.
> You have no clue.

YOU have no clue. YOU said that these satellites are "not visible."

"If you are afraid of loneliness, don't marry." -- Chekhov

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Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Lou B
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	palsing
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	palsing
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	palsing
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	palsing
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Gerald Kelleher
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	palsing
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Gerald Kelleher
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Gerald Kelleher
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	Chris L Peterson
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W
Re: "Satellites and space debris are polluting our night skies."	W