....requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

On 6/23/2022 11:05 AM, Flyguy wrote:
> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

How Flyguy pictures visiting NYC:

<https://youtu.be/XlBFaKnQ1PU?t=219>

Off topic troll...

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> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
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> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 64.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
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1260 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
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> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
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> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 23 Jun 2022 15:49:30 GMT in
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This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

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On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>
> Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.

NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.

> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>
> Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.

The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
better armed than anyone else is.

This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
> >> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
> >> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
> >
> > Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
> >
> > Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
> better armed than anyone else is.
>
> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>
> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>
> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> > On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>> >> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>> >> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>> >
>> > Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>> >
>> > Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>> better armed than anyone else is.
>>
>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>>
>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>>
>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>
>One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

SED is ruined. Pity.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On 6/23/2022 2:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>>>>> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>>>>> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>>>>
>>>> Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>>>>
>>>> Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>>> better armed than anyone else is.
>>>
>>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>>>
>>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>>>
>>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>>
>> One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
>
>
> SED is ruined. Pity.
>

Yeah, it got filled up with off-topic political posts from
frothy-mouthed raving leftists. All the transgender teenagers coming
here to SHOUT about their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS all day really ruined
it, lol

On 6/23/2022 2:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>>>>> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>>>>> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>>>>
>>>> Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>>>>
>>>> Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>>> better armed than anyone else is.
>>>
>>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>>>
>>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>>>
>>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>>
>> One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
>
>
> SED is ruined. Pity.
>

Incidentally I can't wait til Lord Elon finishes buying Twitter and lets
10 million John Does and Flyguys run wild all over that site and run it
into the ground, also. It's going to be MAGALORIOUS!

On 6/23/2022 2:15 PM, Flyguy wrote:
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>>>> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>>>> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>>>
>>> Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>>>
>>> Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>> better armed than anyone else is.
>>
>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>>
>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>>
>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>
> One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

I think any rational e.g. transgender person in a "red state" would be
armed to the teeth these days, Uzi, 50 cal desert eagle, grenade
launcher, you name it. There are wingnuts around.

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 12:25:23 PM UTC-6, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
> >> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
> >> >> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
> >> >> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
> >> >
> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
> >> >
> >> > Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
> >> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US..
> >> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
> >> >
> >> > Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
> >> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
> >> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
> >> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
> >> better armed than anyone else is.
> >>
> >> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
> >> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
> >> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
> >>
> >> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
> >>
> >> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
> >
> >One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
> SED is ruined. Pity.
>
> --
>
> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
> Francis Bacon

Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

>> SED is ruined. Pity.
>>
>> --
>>
>> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
>> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
>> Francis Bacon
>
> Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

Eddie, the Astraweb nym-shifting stalker is flagging off-topic posts
with its forgery of my ID, then replies to its own forgery. Strange but true.

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com>
John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99 gmail.com>

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>> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>
>
>

John Dope stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 64.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 2251 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
1279 have been John Dope "troll format" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Thu, 23 Jun 2022 23:49:55 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t92u72$igk$15@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

HoIgjE/mlWZi

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for
> self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the
> runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.

> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

That New York law was in effect for over 100 years, so that's a major
shift (at least for New York).

Counsel is questioned about the need for self-defense being greater in
rural areas than in densely populated urban areas. In response to the
"high crime area" need for self-defense, counsel justified restricting
guns there, by saying "there are more police officers". But of course a
high crime area is a high crime area.

An argument I listened for but didn't hear... What does density of
population have to do with anything? Just because there are lots of people
in New York doesn't mean there are more people at a bar mitzvah, or a
mall, or any other gathering.

There's been lots of noise lately, but there is always something.

Anybody can filter properly labeled off-topic posts, but John doesn't
because John posts off-topic from time to time...

--

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>>> >> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>>> >> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>>> >
>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>>> >
>>> > Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>>> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>>> >
>>> > Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>>> better armed than anyone else is.
>>>
>>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>>>
>>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>>>
>>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>>
>>One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
>
>
> SED is ruined. Pity.
>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:53:50 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 12:25:23 PM UTC-6, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
>> <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>> >> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>> >> >> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>> >> >> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>> >> >
>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>> >> >
>> >> > Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>> >> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>> >> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>> >> >
>> >> > Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>> >> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>> >> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>> >> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>> >> better armed than anyone else is.
>> >>
>> >> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>> >> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>> >> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>> >>
>> >> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>> >>
>> >> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>> >
>> >One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
>> SED is ruined. Pity.
>>
>> --
>>
>> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
>> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
>> Francis Bacon
>
>Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

Cite?

My topic is electronics, and I always help people with that. I have
never called anyone stupid, or insulted anyone when discussing an
objective issue.

But I don't engage in these endless insult-fests, which I know have
driven away some good engineers.

I suppose I might find another forum, a moderated one, or just give up
public discussion of electronics.

Why do you post to s.e.d?

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:
>
>>> SED is ruined. Pity.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
>>> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
>>> Francis Bacon
>>
>> Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
>
>JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
>America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
Of Idiots.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>
> >On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:
> >
> >>> SED is ruined. Pity.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
> >>> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
> >>> Francis Bacon
> >>
> >> Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
> >
> >JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
> >America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.
> Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
> electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
> the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
> fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
> Of Idiots.

OK, electrical question: The yellow connectors are 400V 24A, but they don't make any bigger one. Is it safe to use for 30A briefly? Perhaps with more wires as heat sink? 3xAWG18(30A) can fit in the blue one (15A). I can add more wires and using the yellow one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144578327967

On 6/23/2022 9:28 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:
>>
>>>> SED is ruined. Pity.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
>>>> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
>>>> Francis Bacon
>>>
>>> Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
>>
>> JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
>> America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.
>
> Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
> electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
> the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
> fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
> Of Idiots.
>

I'm still designing electronics if it makes you feel any better but I've
been too busy working lately to contribute much, sorry 'bout that.

But I'm not close to retirement age by a long shot and by the look of
things with the market etc, I'm gonna need all the working years I can
get...

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:56:45 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:
>> >
>> >>> SED is ruined. Pity.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
>> >>> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
>> >>> Francis Bacon
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
>> >
>> >JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
>> >America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.
>> Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
>> electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
>> the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
>> fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
>> Of Idiots.
>
>OK, electrical question: The yellow connectors are 400V 24A, but they don't make any bigger one. Is it safe to use for 30A briefly? Perhaps with more wires as heat sink? 3xAWG18(30A) can fit in the blue one (15A). I can add more wires and using the yellow one.
>
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/144578327967

Sure. Use the yellow one, for a minute or so maybe. Fat wire will heat
sink the connection.

This board has fastons for 48 volts at 25 amps from a nearby power
supply, but we're using two faston lugs and two wires for +48 and
another pair for ground. The wire resistance helps to equalize the
currents, and there will be lots of air.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bc2dg6njz1wi2hb/P939A_top.jpg?raw=1

Air flow makes a huge difference to connector heating.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 15:07:05 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 6/23/2022 2:15 PM, Flyguy wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>>>>> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>>>>> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>>>>
>>>> Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>>>>
>>>> Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>>> better armed than anyone else is.
>>>
>>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>>>
>>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>>>
>>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>>
>> One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
>
>I think any rational e.g. transgender person in a "red state" would be
>armed to the teeth these days, Uzi, 50 cal desert eagle, grenade
>launcher, you name it. There are wingnuts around.

The risk of a well-behaved trans being attacked is probably below 1
PPM/year. Riding a bicycle is far more dangerous.

There are about 40 shootings in Chicago on an average weekend. Nobody
much cares.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
> On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:
>
> >> SED is ruined. Pity.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
> >> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
> >> Francis Bacon
> >
> > Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
> JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
> America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

Hardly. The SC decision today means that sanity has a stronghold still. But Lyin' Biden's antics gives one concern. The saving grace is a midterm election in four short months.

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:05:42 PM UTC-6, John Doe wrote:
> There's been lots of noise lately, but there is always something.
>
> Anybody can filter properly labeled off-topic posts, but John doesn't
> because John posts off-topic from time to time...
>
>
>
> --
> John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> > <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
> >>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> >>> > On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
> >>> >> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
> >>> >> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
> >>> >
> >>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
> >>> >
> >>> > Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990..
> >>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
> >>> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
> >>> >
> >>> > Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
> >>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
> >>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
> >>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
> >>> better armed than anyone else is.
> >>>
> >>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
> >>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
> >>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
> >>>
> >>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
> >>>
> >>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
> >>
> >>One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
> >
> >
> > SED is ruined. Pity.
> >

Oh, COME ON, JOHN! You have on more than one occasion indulged in off-topic discussions, that YOU initiated. I am not going to waste my time dredging them up.

On 6/24/2022 6:07 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:15:45 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
>>>>> ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
>>>>> https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png
>>>>
>>>> Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
>>> NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
>>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.
>>>>
>>>> Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to fancy it.
>>> The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
>>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
>>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
>>> better armed than anyone else is.
>>>
>>> This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
>>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
>>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"
>>>
>>> Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"
>>>
>>> Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"
>>
>> One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading.
>
> Flyguy can understand any document he reads as supporting his chosen point of view. He doesn't really understand that more intelligent readers can actually understand what the document was designed to say.
>
>> If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
>
> Flyguy wants the everybody to understand the US Constitution in exactly the same way he does - not merely badly, but badly in a way that fits his demented delusions.
>
> There's nothing all that special about the US Constitution. It's an old moderate enlightenment document, which means that it wasn't properly thought out when it was first written, and it is clearly in need of extensive revision.
>

The current Supreme Court's abilities to "interpret the Constitution" in
a rational way are so well-regarded that its popularity is at an
historic low:

<https://news.gallup.com/poll/394103/confidence-supreme-court-sinks-historic-low.aspx>