As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
Einstein's idiocies.
But how about improper ones? Can they
measure t'=t?

See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
but the real basement of The Shit is your
faith your violating common sense concepts
are "proper" ones.

Le 28/02/2023 à 12:19, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> but the real basement of The Shit is your
> faith your violating common sense concepts
> are "proper" ones.

There is indeed a violation of common sense in the current reality theory.

I searched for a long time how to highlight it, and by a curious
coincidence, it was while wanting to respond to a post by Yanick Toutain,
who dealt with apparent speeds, many, many years ago, that I came across
the theoretical certainty.

There is a glaring contradiction internally to the theory and is called
the "real Langevin paradox".

This paradox does not relate to the non-symmetry of the total times of the
protagonists, but to the fact that the apparent speeds are not covariant
(which is absurd).

Here is the paradox.

The saddest thing is that I'm the only one who lifted it, and the only one
everyone spits on.

That surprises?

Don't be surprised, the world is made like that.

Arrogance and stupidity is not only in the low pits.

R.H.

On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 14:07:57 UTC+1, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 28/02/2023 à 12:19, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > are "proper" ones.
> There is indeed a violation of common sense in the current reality theory..

The Shit isn't a reality theory, it's a theory
of a proper wannabe gedankenwelt.

So - how about those improper clocks?
Can they or can't they measure t'=t?

Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> wrote:

> As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> Einstein's idiocies.
> But how about improper ones? Can they
> measure t'=t?

'Improper clocks' do not exist.
Anything tat evolves in accordance with the laws of nature
can be considered to be a clock.
It is just that some of them
happen to be more accurate than others,

Jan
(a clock too, for as long as it lasts)

On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 14:38:09 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > Einstein's idiocies.
> > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > measure t'=t?
> 'Improper clocks' do not exist.

Wow. So, suppose I have 2 clocks, and one of them
is delaying by 5 seconds per a day compared
to the other.
Are both of them proper, poor halfbrain?

> Anything tat evolves in accordance with the laws of nature
> can be considered to be a clock.

Pffff. Can be considered, you say.
Well, any idea can be considered, but a
lot of ideas that can be considered - are
stupid. Too bad.

Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 14:38:09 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > measure t'=t?
> > 'Improper clocks' do not exist.
>
> Wow. So, suppose I have 2 clocks, and one of them
> is delaying by 5 seconds per a day compared
> to the other.
> Are both of them proper, poor halfbrain?

Of course, if both run in accordance with the laws of nature.

> > Anything tat evolves in accordance with the laws of nature
> > can be considered to be a clock.
>
> Pffff. Can be considered, you say.
> Well, any idea can be considered, but a
> lot of ideas that can be considered - are
> stupid. Too bad.

The stupidity is all yours.
FYI, precision clocks are never tampered with
to 'correct' them to the right time.

One simply notes the differences,
and applies the necessary corrections,

Jan

On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 15:22:08 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 14:38:09 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > > measure t'=t?
> > > 'Improper clocks' do not exist.
> >
> > Wow. So, suppose I have 2 clocks, and one of them
> > is delaying by 5 seconds per a day compared
> > to the other.
> > Are both of them proper, poor halfbrain?
> Of course, if both run in accordance with the laws of nature.

Well, can you point some experimental evidence
to this ridiculous claim?

> > > Anything tat evolves in accordance with the laws of nature
> > > can be considered to be a clock.
> >
> > Pffff. Can be considered, you say.
> > Well, any idea can be considered, but a
> > lot of ideas that can be considered - are
> > stupid. Too bad.
> The stupidity is all yours.

And everything can be considered clocks.
Sure. Why not, paper is patient.

Le 28/02/2023 à 15:06, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> Wow. So, suppose I have 2 clocks, and one of them
> is delaying by 5 seconds per a day compared
> to the other.
> Are both of them proper, poor halfbrain?

No report.

We have to talk about clear things.

If you have two watches that are in the same place, and in the same
kinetic reference frame, they must not only indicate the same time at the
start of their adjustment (local point isotopy), but also have the same
chronotropy (speed at which the hands turn ).

The rest does not exist.

It's just bad tuning or bad mechanics.

R.H.

On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 15:44:14 UTC+1, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 28/02/2023 à 15:06, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> > Wow. So, suppose I have 2 clocks, and one of them
> > is delaying by 5 seconds per a day compared
> > to the other.
> > Are both of them proper, poor halfbrain?
> No report.
>
> We have to talk about clear things.
>
> If you have two watches that are in the same place, and in the same
> kinetic reference frame, they must not only indicate the same time at the
> start of their adjustment (local point isotopy), but also have the same
> chronotropy (speed at which the hands turn ).

I bet they have to in your dreamland, in the reality however
it's quite common that they don't.

On 2023-02-28 13:07:54 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

>
> [ … ]

>
> There is a glaring contradiction internally to the theory and is called
> the "real Langevin paradox".
>
> This paradox does not relate to the non-symmetry of the total times of
> the protagonists, but to the fact that the apparent speeds are not
> covariant (which is absurd).
>
> Here is the paradox.
>
> The saddest thing is that I'm the only one who lifted it, and the only
> one everyone spits on.
>
> That surprises?

Poor little chap. The greatest genius the world has ever known, and no
one takes him seriously. I wonder why that could be.

> --
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> wrote:

> Le 28/02/2023 à 15:06, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> > Wow. So, suppose I have 2 clocks, and one of them
> > is delaying by 5 seconds per a day compared
> > to the other.
> > Are both of them proper, poor halfbrain?
>
> No report.
>
> We have to talk about clear things.
>
> If you have two watches that are in the same place, and in the same
> kinetic reference frame, they must not only indicate the same time at the
> start of their adjustment (local point isotopy), but also have the same
> chronotropy (speed at which the hands turn ).
>
> The rest does not exist.
>
> It's just bad tuning or bad mechanics.

Indeed, in an ideal world. Unfortunately, ideals don't exist in reality.
If you build two clocks as identical as you can make them
you will still find that their readings diverge in time.
(whether they are spring chronometers or atomic clocks)

This is a problem only for relativity nutters.
Real sea captains with their chronometers,
and real scientists working in standards laboratories
have learned how to handle such problems practically.

In particular, for the participating atomic clocks in standards labs
the BIPM in Paris publishes a monthly bulletin
in which everyone can find for each participating clock
what its current offset and rate difference is
with respect to their average, which is called TAI,

Jan

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> Einstein's idiocies.
> But how about improper ones? Can they
> measure t'=t?
>
> See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> but the real basement of The Shit is your
> faith your violating common sense concepts
> are "proper" ones.

'improper clocks' don't exist....

synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper

Where can you buy an immoral clock?

Does time exist if nothing is observing it????

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 21:36:52 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Richard Hachel <r.ha...@tiscali.fr> wrote:
> > Le 28/02/2023 ŕ 15:06, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> > > Wow. So, suppose I have 2 clocks, and one of them
> > > is delaying by 5 seconds per a day compared
> > > to the other.
> > > Are both of them proper, poor halfbrain?
> >
> > No report.
> >
> > We have to talk about clear things.
> >
> > If you have two watches that are in the same place, and in the same
> > kinetic reference frame, they must not only indicate the same time at the
> > start of their adjustment (local point isotopy), but also have the same
> > chronotropy (speed at which the hands turn ).
> >
> > The rest does not exist.
> >
> > It's just bad tuning or bad mechanics.
> Indeed, in an ideal world. Unfortunately, ideals don't exist in reality.
> If you build two clocks as identical as you can make them
> you will still find that their readings diverge in time.
> (whether they are spring chronometers or atomic clocks)
>
> This is a problem only for relativity nutters.

Right - it's only problem of yours.
Sane people have never insisted on identical clocks.

> In particular, for the participating atomic clocks in standards labs
> the BIPM in Paris publishes a monthly bulletin
> in which everyone can find for each participating clock
> what its current offset and rate difference is
> with respect to their average, which is called TAI,

And without any respect to "proper time" of your
bunch of idiots.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:01:49 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >
> > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > Einstein's idiocies.
> > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > measure t'=t?
> >
> > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > are "proper" ones.
> 'improper clocks' don't exist....
>
>
>
> synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
> irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
> corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
> cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
> naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
> crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
> the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy
>
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper
>
>
> Where can you buy an immoral clock?

Nowhere, but there are a lot of places where I
can buy an unprofessional one.

> Does time exist if nothing is observing it????

Have you ever observed time? What was its
colour?

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:01:49 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > measure t'=t?
> > >
> > > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > > are "proper" ones.
> > 'improper clocks' don't exist....
> >
> >
> >
> > synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
> > irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
> > corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
> > cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
> > naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
> > crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
> > the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper
> >
> >
> > Where can you buy an immoral clock?
>
> Nowhere, but there are a lot of places where I
> can buy an unprofessional one.
>
> > Does time exist if nothing is observing it????
>
> Have you ever observed time? What was its
> colour?

Time is what a clock says...

wat does it's color have to do with ...time?

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:36:53 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:01:49 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > > measure t'=t?
> > > >
> > > > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > > > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > > > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > > > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > > > are "proper" ones.
> > > 'improper clocks' don't exist....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
> > > irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
> > > corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
> > > cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
> > > naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
> > > crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
> > > the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper
> > >
> > >
> > > Where can you buy an immoral clock?
> >
> > Nowhere, but there are a lot of places where I
> > can buy an unprofessional one.
> >
> > > Does time exist if nothing is observing it????
> >
> > Have you ever observed time? What was its
> > colour?
> Time is what a clock says...

Right. And a clock says - what you set it to.
Time comes from your imagination. You've
never observed it.

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:36:53 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:01:49 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > > > measure t'=t?
> > > > >
> > > > > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > > > > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > > > > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > > > > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > > > > are "proper" ones.
> > > > 'improper clocks' don't exist....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
> > > > irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
> > > > corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
> > > > cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
> > > > naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
> > > > crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
> > > > the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Where can you buy an immoral clock?
> > >
> > > Nowhere, but there are a lot of places where I
> > > can buy an unprofessional one.
> > >
> > > > Does time exist if nothing is observing it????
> > >
> > > Have you ever observed time? What was its
> > > colour?
> > Time is what a clock says...
>
> Right. And a clock says - what you set it to.
> Time comes from your imagination. You've
> never observed it.

i observed the clock.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 3:19:32 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> Einstein's idiocies.
> But how about improper ones? Can they
> measure t'=t?
>
> See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> but the real basement of The Shit is your
> faith your violating common sense concepts
> are "proper" ones.
I agree with Wozniak that one needs a clock that functions the same in every environment because time is a comparison of rates of change. For that, one needs a common unit of measure. T has to equal T1 to make that comparison.. A sand clock works slower at higher elevations. A battery clock works faster. Time is the same everywhere to make valid comparisons. Time is universal.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 19:47:19 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:36:53 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:01:49 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > > > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > > > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > > > > measure t'=t?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > > > > > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > > > > > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > > > > > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > > > > > are "proper" ones.
> > > > > 'improper clocks' don't exist....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
> > > > > irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
> > > > > corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
> > > > > cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
> > > > > naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
> > > > > crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
> > > > > the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Where can you buy an immoral clock?
> > > >
> > > > Nowhere, but there are a lot of places where I
> > > > can buy an unprofessional one.
> > > >
> > > > > Does time exist if nothing is observing it????
> > > >
> > > > Have you ever observed time? What was its
> > > > colour?
> > > Time is what a clock says...
> >
> > Right. And a clock says - what you set it to.
> > Time comes from your imagination. You've
> > never observed it.
> i observed the clock.

Sure.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 20:06:24 UTC+1, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 3:19:32 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > Einstein's idiocies.
> > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > measure t'=t?
> >
> > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > are "proper" ones.
> I agree with Wozniak that one needs a clock that functions the same in every environment because time is a comparison of rates of change. For that, one needs a common unit of measure. T has to equal T1 to make that comparison. A sand clock works slower at higher elevations. A battery clock works faster. Time is the same everywhere to make valid comparisons. Time is universal.

Time should be universal, or it will be unusable.
Like "proper time" of Giant Guru.
And, as said - they may scream of
EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
but the real basement of The Shit is their
faith that their violating common sense
concepts are "proper" ones.

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 19:47:19 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:36:53 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:01:49 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > > > > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > > > > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > > > > > measure t'=t?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > > > > > > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > > > > > > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > > > > > > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > > > > > > are "proper" ones.
> > > > > > 'improper clocks' don't exist....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
> > > > > > irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
> > > > > > corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
> > > > > > cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
> > > > > > naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
> > > > > > crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
> > > > > > the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where can you buy an immoral clock?
> > > > >
> > > > > Nowhere, but there are a lot of places where I
> > > > > can buy an unprofessional one.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Does time exist if nothing is observing it????
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you ever observed time? What was its
> > > > > colour?
> > > > Time is what a clock says...
> > >
> > > Right. And a clock says - what you set it to.
> > > Time comes from your imagination. You've
> > > never observed it.
> > i observed the clock.
>
> Sure.

I observed the Time from the Sun...I didn't set the time.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Crank Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 20:06:24 UTC+1, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 3:19:32 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
>>> Einstein's idiocies.
>>> But how about improper ones? Can they
>>> measure t'=t?
>>>
>>> See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
>>> EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
>>> but the real basement of The Shit is your
>>> faith your violating common sense concepts
>>> are "proper" ones.
>> I agree with Wozniak that one needs a clock that functions the same in every environment because time is a comparison of rates of change. For that, one needs a common unit of measure. T has to equal T1 to make that comparison. A sand clock works slower at higher elevations. A battery clock works faster. Time is the same everywhere to make valid comparisons. Time is universal.
>
> Time should be universal, or it will be unusable.

Oh! A new stupid assesment from Maciej Wozniak!

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 21:33:21 UTC+1, Python wrote:
> Crank Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 20:06:24 UTC+1, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 3:19:32 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>> As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> >>> Einstein's idiocies.
> >>> But how about improper ones? Can they
> >>> measure t'=t?
> >>>
> >>> See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> >>> EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> >>> but the real basement of The Shit is your
> >>> faith your violating common sense concepts
> >>> are "proper" ones.
> >> I agree with Wozniak that one needs a clock that functions the same in every environment because time is a comparison of rates of change. For that, one needs a common unit of measure. T has to equal T1 to make that comparison. A sand clock works slower at higher elevations. A battery clock works faster. Time is the same everywhere to make valid comparisons. Time is universal.
> >
> > Time should be universal, or it will be unusable.
> Oh! A new stupid assesment from Maciej Wozniak!

Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
and trying to pretend he knows something.
Tell me, poor stinker, what is your definition of
a "theory" in the terms of Peano arithmetic?
See: if a theorem is going to be a part of a theory,
it has to be formulable in the language of the
theory. Do you get it? Or are you too stupid even for
that, poor stinker?

> Where can you buy an immoral clock?
The Lorentz transformation is an unethical adjustment to the time because it involves ad hoc exceptions to the rule.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 19:47:19 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:36:53 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:01:49 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As everybody knows, proper clocks measure
> > > > > > > > Einstein's idiocies.
> > > > > > > > But how about improper ones? Can they
> > > > > > > > measure t'=t?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > See, poor halfbrains: you may scream of
> > > > > > > > EXPERIMENTS!!! EVIDENCE!!! and alike,
> > > > > > > > but the real basement of The Shit is your
> > > > > > > > faith your violating common sense concepts
> > > > > > > > are "proper" ones.
> > > > > > > 'improper clocks' don't exist....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > synonyms: inappropriate, unacceptable, unsuitable, unprofessional,
> > > > > > > irregular, illegitimate, against the rules, unethical,
> > > > > > > corrupt, immoral, dishonest, dishonorable, unscrupulous, crooked, not
> > > > > > > cricket, indecent, risqué, off color, indelicate, suggestive,
> > > > > > > naughty, ribald, earthy, Rabelaisian, smutty, dirty, filthy, vulgar,
> > > > > > > crude, rude, obscene, lewd, pornographic, blue, raunchy, steamy, near
> > > > > > > the knuckle/bone, nudge-nudge, fruity, saucy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+improper
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Where can you buy an immoral clock?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nowhere, but there are a lot of places where I
> > > > > > can buy an unprofessional one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does time exist if nothing is observing it????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you ever observed time? What was its
> > > > > > colour?
> > > > > Time is what a clock says...
> > > >
> > > > Right. And a clock says - what you set it to.
> > > > Time comes from your imagination. You've
> > > > never observed it.
> > > i observed the clock.
> >
> > Sure.
>
> I observed the Time from the Sun...I didn't set the time.

i didn't set the sun...

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