On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:44:53 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:46:24 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:09:54 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:44:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:24:23 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 2:56:58 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 9:28:32 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 1:58:08 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:37:40 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 7:45:02 AM UTC+11, DemonicTubes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:25:53 PM UTC-6, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In other words they couldn't find much evidence of defensive gun use
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, these guys post videos almost every day of firearms being successfully used defensively:
> > > > > > > > > <snipped gun trade commercials >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hollywood did the same for years
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Wish_(film_series)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The people that sell guns were delighted, and presumably financed the sequels.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (it is an excellent channel by the way for anybody interested in increasing their self-defense skills).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And making it more likely that their next attempted suicide will succeed - which does happen to be the major cost of gun ownership.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, but also one of the LOWEST gun ownership rates, proving that guns have NOTHING to do with suicide (https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It doesn't prove anything of the sort.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anybody who uses a gun to kill themselves demonstrates that a gun can have quite a lot to do with a particular suicide.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The problem is that attempted suicide by gun succeeds about 90% of the time. Most other methods only have a 10% success rate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Look, we can't deny that guns are dangerous for society.. The problem with the US is the sheer amount of guns available. It is too late to ban guns here...that cow left the barn years ago. How would they do that anyway? Go house to house?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > After the Port Arthur massacre in Australian the government ran a gun buy back scheme.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This was a gun CONFISCATION scheme that was improperly called a buy-back.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The gun possession laws were changed at the same time, and quite a few of the guns bought back had become illegal, so the buy-backs were coupled with gun law amnesties, but it wasn't a gun confiscation scheme. Nobody bothered to do house to house searches to catch up with the hold-outs..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > People who made it obvious that they had guns when they shouldn't presumably did get chased up, but there was never a lot of fuss made about doing it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HA HA HA HA! Gun confiscation by another name. IF you didn't turn it in you became an outlaw, RIGHT?
> > > > > >
> > > > > If you turn it in, it isn't being confiscated. You can't become an outlaw until you have been identified as breaking the law, and for that to happen you'd have had to make a public display of owning a gun.That didn't seem to happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gnatguy wants to describe what happened in Australia in terms that suit him, but he's being just as unrealistic here as he is everywhere else.
> > > >
> > > > The guns in question are illegal to own under Australian law. Possessing said gun is a violation of the law, making the possessor a law breaker.
> > > But not necessarily an outlaw. People break the law all the time, and you have to do it publicly and ostentatiously to be recognised as a outlaw..
> > >
> > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/outlaw
> > >
> > > 1 : a person excluded from the benefit or protection of the law
> > > 2a : a lawless person or a fugitive from the law
> > > b : a person or organization under a ban or restriction
> > > c : one that is unconventional or rebellious
> > > 3 : an animal (such as a horse) that is wild and unmanageable
> > >
> > > > Bill should understand the law in his own country.
> > >
> > > Gnatguy should put in some work on understanding English. Granting his enthusiasm for misunderstanding English in ways that suit his demented point of view, we can be fairly confident that he won't.
> >
> > Hey Bozo, to own a firearm in Australia requires a license. If you take that unlicensed firearm into a public place you ARE breaking the law, whether it is noticed or not. Each state in Australia has its own laws that detail the penalty for these insults to law and order. In New South Wales, where you live, the penalty for having an unlicensed firearm in public (and not actually firing it) is imprisonment for up to TEN YEARS!
> Seems reasonable. The criminals who do actually carry unlicensed firearm in public places are mostly drug dealers.

No Bozo, that could be ANYBODY who didn't want to comply with the firearm confiscation law. And it totally REFUTES your claim that people who don't comply with this confiscation law aren't law breakers.

>
> The side effects of this kind of regulation does seem to be that we haven't had a gun massacre since the Port Arthur back in 1996. The US hasn't been so lucky.

Doesn't sound like there was an epidemic to begin with. This is just a huge over-reaction by a bunch of scared bureaucrats.

>
> --
> Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 11:10:08 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 4:37:48 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:44:53 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:46:24 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:09:54 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:44:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:24:23 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 2:56:58 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 9:28:32 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 1:58:08 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:37:40 PM UTC-7, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 7:45:02 AM UTC+11, DemonicTubes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:25:53 PM UTC-6, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words they couldn't find much evidence of defensive gun use
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, these guys post videos almost every day of firearms being successfully used defensively:
> > > > > > > > > > > <snipped gun trade commercials >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hollywood did the same for years
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Wish_(film_series)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The people that sell guns were delighted, and presumably financed the sequels.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (it is an excellent channel by the way for anybody interested in increasing their self-defense skills).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And making it more likely that their next attempted suicide will succeed - which does happen to be the major cost of gun ownership.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, but also one of the LOWEST gun ownership rates, proving that guns have NOTHING to do with suicide (https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It doesn't prove anything of the sort.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anybody who uses a gun to kill themselves demonstrates that a gun can have quite a lot to do with a particular suicide.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The problem is that attempted suicide by gun succeeds about 90% of the time. Most other methods only have a 10% success rate.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Look, we can't deny that guns are dangerous for society. The problem with the US is the sheer amount of guns available. It is too late to ban guns here...that cow left the barn years ago. How would they do that anyway? Go house to house?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > After the Port Arthur massacre in Australian the government ran a gun buy back scheme.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This was a gun CONFISCATION scheme that was improperly called a buy-back.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The gun possession laws were changed at the same time, and quite a few of the guns bought back had become illegal, so the buy-backs were coupled with gun law amnesties, but it wasn't a gun confiscation scheme. Nobody bothered to do house to house searches to catch up with the hold-outs.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > People who made it obvious that they had guns when they shouldn't presumably did get chased up, but there was never a lot of fuss made about doing it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HA HA HA HA! Gun confiscation by another name. IF you didn't turn it in you became an outlaw, RIGHT?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you turn it in, it isn't being confiscated. You can't become an outlaw until you have been identified as breaking the law, and for that to happen you'd have had to make a public display of owning a gun.That didn't seem to happen.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gnatguy wants to describe what happened in Australia in terms that suit him, but he's being just as unrealistic here as he is everywhere else.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The guns in question are illegal to own under Australian law. Possessing said gun is a violation of the law, making the possessor a law breaker.
> > > > > But not necessarily an outlaw. People break the law all the time, and you have to do it publicly and ostentatiously to be recognised as a outlaw.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/outlaw
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 : a person excluded from the benefit or protection of the law
> > > > > 2a : a lawless person or a fugitive from the law
> > > > > b : a person or organization under a ban or restriction
> > > > > c : one that is unconventional or rebellious
> > > > > 3 : an animal (such as a horse) that is wild and unmanageable
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bill should understand the law in his own country.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gnatguy should put in some work on understanding English. Granting his enthusiasm for misunderstanding English in ways that suit his demented point of view, we can be fairly confident that he won't.
> > > >
> > > > Hey Bozo, to own a firearm in Australia requires a license. If you take that unlicensed firearm into a public place you ARE breaking the law, whether it is noticed or not. Each state in Australia has its own laws that detail the penalty for these insults to law and order. In New South Wales, where you live, the penalty for having an unlicensed firearm in public (and not actually firing it) is imprisonment for up to TEN YEARS!
> > >
> > > Seems reasonable. The criminals who do actually carry unlicensed firearm in public places are mostly drug dealers.
> > >
> > No Bozo, that could be ANYBODY who didn't want to comply with the firearm confiscation law. And it totally REFUTES your claim that people who don't comply with this confiscation law aren't law breakers.
> I said that they weren't outlaws, which is a different word with a different meaning from law-breaker.

That is a difference WITHOUT a distinction, Bozo.

> > > The side effects of this kind of regulation does seem to be that we haven't had a gun massacre since the Port Arthur back in 1996. The US hasn't been so lucky.
> > Doesn't sound like there was an epidemic to begin with. This is just a huge over-reaction by a bunch of scared bureaucrats.
> With a tenth pf the population of the US gun massacres in Australia were pretty sparse before 1996, but they did happen. They haven't happened since then.

And the gun confiscation was TOTALLY an OVER-REACTION

>
> The US tolerance of the phenomena does look like a gross and moronic under-reaction. And you are the kind of gross moron who wouldn't realise it.

There are TOO MANY libtard politicians unwilling to ENFORCE EXISTING GUN LAWS in the US. If they were enforced these murders would be a thing of the past.

On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 12:08:25 AM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 5:55:11 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 11:10:08 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 4:37:48 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:44:53 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:46:24 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:09:54 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:44:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:24:23 PM UTC-7, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 2:56:58 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 9:28:32 PM UTC-7, bill.....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 1:58:08 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:37:40 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 7:45:02 AM UTC+11, DemonicTubes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 10:25:53 PM UTC-6, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> <snip>
> > > I said that they weren't outlaws, which is a different word with a different meaning from law-breaker.
> >
> > That is a difference WITHOUT a distinction.
>
> It may be a distinction you can't understand, but it is a real difference.. Do try to keep in mind that you are remarkably stupid.
> > > > > The side effects of this kind of regulation does seem to be that we haven't had a gun massacre since the Port Arthur back in 1996. The US hasn't been so lucky.
> > > > Doesn't sound like there was an epidemic to begin with. This is just a huge over-reaction by a bunch of scared bureaucrats.
> > > With a tenth pf the population of the US gun massacres in Australia were pretty sparse before 1996, but they did happen. They haven't happened since then.
> >
> > And the gun confiscation was TOTALLY an OVER-REACTION.
>
> It removed a whole lot of guns that weren't serving any useful purpose and were creating unnecessary risks.
>
> Do feel free to identify what you think might have been an appropriate reaction. America is still having gun massacres - Australia isn't, so your attitude does look more like favouring a total non-reaction

Leaving the status quo, for starters. You have ONE berserk freak that runs amok and now you have to ban guns for nearly everyone (the requirements for owning a handgun are WAY BEYOND onerous!). It would be like banning cars if someone used one to mow down pedestrians.

> > > The US tolerance of the phenomena does look like a gross and moronic under-reaction. And you are the kind of gross moron who wouldn't realise it..
> >
> > There are TOO MANY libtard politicians unwilling to ENFORCE EXISTING GUN LAWS in the US. If they were enforced these murders would be a thing of the past.
> An implausible claim.

Only to libtards like you:
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/09/politics/obama-executive-orders-gun-control-enforcement-gap
Politicians just are not willing to staff the ATF to the level necessary to enforce EXISTING gun laws. They even let Hunter Biden off the hook after he LIED on his gun application form:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/sources-secret-service-inserted-itself-into-case-of-hunter-bidens-gun-477879

>
> --
> Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

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