On 6/23/2023 6:44 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote in
> news:tWqlM.59420$Zq81.53168@fx15.iad:
>
>> On 2023-06-24, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site.
>>>> Cite the law.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Concerning_the_Shipwrecked_Ves
>>> sel_RMS_Titanic
>>>
>>>> Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters.
>>>
>>> The laws in international waters are whatever the countries in
>>> those waters agree they are.
>>>
>>
>> The underwater submersible community is not that large and they all
>> know each other. Many of the more experienced people have written
>> written OceanGate expressing their opinions that the sub was not safe
>> but the CEO did not listen.
>>
>> And while the doomed passengers signed what looks like solid releases
>> from suing the company should something go wrong, that is based upon
>> what they were told ahead of time regarding the craft and it's safety.
>> The families are going to collect a lot assuming OceanGate doesn't go
>> bankrupt, which they probably will.
>> It's tragic but going to be interesting as the investigations
>> commence. Any 3rd year metallurgy student can tell you that carbon
>> fiber is highly brittle and a poor choice for a craft under those
>> extreme pressures. Even a breach of the hull the size of a pinhole
>> would escalate into an implosion.
>>
>
>
> Something else missing from this
> toy submersable

LOL! It's *submersible* — 'i', not 'a' — but putting "toy" in front of it was a
stroke of genius. You win Usenet today. Good stuff!

> is any insulation.

Are you sure?

> It gets insanely cold even on the surface
> much less thousands of feet down.

The Titanic hit an iceberg on April 14. We're now at the summer solstice. I
don't think it's nearly as cold at the surface. According to this PBS story
(https://tinyurl.com/yckkt72j), the temperature at the depth of the Titanic is
about 33F. That's pretty chilly, but if five people packed into a tight space
are wearing warm enough clothing, they'd be fine. I've been out for walks
wearing a good parka in far colder temperatures, and I was perfectly comfortable.

The fact is the submersible never got to the depth of the Titanic. It imploded
*long* before reaching the shipwreck. The reason communication was lost between
the submersible and the surface ship relatively early into the dive on Sunday
*was* the implosion. Those poor saps never even got close to the Titanic.

It wasn't the cold that killed them or caused the disaster. It was the shitty,
uncertified design of the submersible.

On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>
>> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>> batteries.
>> [...]
>>
>> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>> lost on that sub. Damn.
>
> Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>
> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
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Hahahahh :-)

As I said, the guy was a "whodat".

"Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
saying is what matters!"

- Stockton "The Whodat" Rush

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On 6/23/2023 11:04 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>>> batteries.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>
>> Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>
>> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Hahahahh :-)
>
> As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>
>    "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> saying is what matters!"
>
>                                    - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush

Nothing could be better. Thanks for coming "out."

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> >>> batteries.
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> >
> > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> >
> > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Hahahahh :-)
>
> As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>
> "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> saying is what matters!"
>
> - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>
>
>
> --
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//George E Hammond MS Physics//
June 24, 2023
..
Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
..
Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi

That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
..
The volume of the Titan chamber was about
(pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
..
Which means that once it imploded the air volume
was near instantly reduced to: –
785/313=2.5 ft.³
..
The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
initially: –
(4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
..
The air bubble rising from the Titan
was only the size of a party balloon.
..
GEO

On 6/23/2023 11:04 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>>> batteries.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>
>> Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>
>> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Hahahahh :-)
>
> As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>
>    "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> saying is what matters!"
>
>                                    - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>
>
>

Crap. Navy not only had detected the ultra loud sound of the crash,
which by the way involves an implosion immediately followed by explosion
- kind of like a supernova - heheh :) - they also had shared their
interpretation with those searching for the sub as well as with their
friends, even with the movie director of Titanic! Then for days all
these people who knew what happened, I bet, were sitting on their asses
laughing at what the news covered and how they were trying to make the
most news out of it. "Crew has only 90 hours of oxygen!" :-) "Now they
only have 10 hours left!" ...

After crash sound had reached the closest listening point, and the news
of a sub missing at that same location reached the Navy, everything that
followed in the news after that was purely for "Whodats."

I don't want to start my Saturday, so early in the morning, with
anything that involves the concept of "Whodat" and "Whodats". Be it just
to kill time while coffee is brewing. I don't want to do that even if
you pay me! :-(

A "Whodat" should die and reduce the dead weight on peoples' shoulders.
It's the only positive aspect that there is about a "Whodat" that the
"Whodat" can do. Stockton "the Whodat" is dead, that was good. Worth
spending a few minutes on. The other four, minus the 19 year old, each
"Whodats" of their own, trusting another "Whodat", I'm happy about them
also. Dead Weights.

I'm sure the Baba Paki referred to Stockton as "Sahib!" Good fucking
riddance indeed. But the 19 year old couldn't know better. And it is the
law of nature that no matter how innocent, if you're descending from a
fool, you're a goner as well as the fool.

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On 6/24/2023 4:43 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 11:04 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>>>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs
>>>>> out of
>>>>> batteries.
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>>> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>>
>>> Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>>
>>> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hahahahh :-)
>>
>> As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>>
>>     "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>> Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>> professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>> saying is what matters!"
>>
>>                                     - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Crap. Navy not only had detected the ultra loud sound of the crash,
> which by the way involves an implosion immediately followed by explosion
> - kind of like a supernova - heheh :) - they also had shared their
> interpretation with those searching for the sub as well as with their
> friends, even with the movie director of Titanic! Then for days all
> these people who knew what happened, I bet, were sitting on their asses
> laughing at what the news covered and how they were trying to make the
> most news out of it. "Crew has only 90 hours of oxygen!" :-) "Now they
> only have 10 hours left!" ...
>
> After crash sound had reached the closest listening point, and the news
> of a sub missing at that same location reached the Navy, everything that
> followed in the news after that was purely for "Whodats."
>
> I don't want to start my Saturday, so early in the morning, with
> anything that involves the concept of "Whodat" and "Whodats". Be it just
> to kill time while coffee is brewing. I don't want to do that even if
> you pay me! :-(
>
> A "Whodat" should die and reduce the dead weight on peoples' shoulders.
> It's the only positive aspect that there is about a "Whodat" that the
> "Whodat" can do. Stockton "the Whodat" is dead, that was good. Worth
> spending a few minutes on. The other four, minus the 19 year old, each
> "Whodats" of their own, trusting another "Whodat", I'm happy about them
> also. Dead Weights.
>
> I'm sure the Baba Paki referred to Stockton as "Sahib!" Good fucking
> riddance indeed. But the 19 year old couldn't know better. And it is the
> law of nature that no matter how innocent, if you're descending from a
> fool, you're a goner as well as the fool.

Has nothing to offer worthy of consideration. PLONK

HEY, WHO WANTS TO GO ON A SPACE STATION TOUR???!?

wat can possibly go wrong?

i wanna see Captain Kirk get on it again....

(watch out for the space garbage)

at least you won't get wet...

wat wet asked the fish?

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> If you want an easy million dollars...
>
> he charged you $250,000.00 a ticket
>
> and he sold 4 tickets
>
> dats a million dollars!
>
> You are suppose to hide
> the old X-box controller..
>
> and the fact the sub doesn't work.
>
> (just sign here -don't read the small print)
>
> The five passengers who boarded the doomed OceanGate Titan submersible that imploded on its way to the wreck
> of the Titanic signed an iron-clad agreement that protects the company from any liability for what could happen
> to the vessel, including death.
>
> The three-page document spells out the risks that passengers take when riding in the 23,000-pound Titan, including
> eye-popping wording such as how the craft “has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body and may be
> constructed of materials that have not been widely used on human occupied submersible.”
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/06/23/read-the-death-waiver-doomed-titanic-sub-tourists-signed/
>
> no refunds.
>
> Did Captain Kirk ever ride in dat thing?
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I'll tell you what happened...
> >
> > the
> > guys
> > at
> > the
> > top
> > knew
> > that
> > somehow
> > they
> > had
> > broken stuff,
> > the
> > guys
> > at
> > the
> > top
> > didn't
> > want
> > to
> > hear
> > that
> > they
> > had
> > broken stuff.
> >
> > They
> > didn't
> > want
> > to
> > hear
> > about
> > the
> > difficulties
> > of
> > the
> > engineers
> > -
> > the
> > fact
> > that
> > the
> > sub
> > might
> > not
> > work,
> > and
> > so
> > on.
> >
> > It's
> > better
> > if
> > they
> > don't
> > hear
> > it,
> > so
> > they
> > can
> > be
> > much
> > more
> > "honest"
> > when
> > they're
> > trying
> > to
> > sell
> > tickets.
> > -
> >
> > the
> > engineers
> > and
> > scien-
> > tists
> > on
> > the
> > one
> > hand and
> > management
> > on
> > the
> > other
> > -
> > is
> > the
> > cause
> > of
> > the
> > deterioration
> > in
> > cooperation,
> > which,
> > as
> > you've
> > seen,
> > produced
> > a calamity.
> >
> > "...the company refused to pay for the Titan’s manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required standards for these depths."
> > "...paying passengers would not be aware or informed of the Titan’s “experimental viewport design,.."
> > https://fortune.com/2023/06/21/titan-titanic-missing-sub-david-lochridge-safety-concerns-sacked-oceangate-stockton-rush-hamish-harding/
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > https://fortune.com/2023/06/21/titan-titanic-missing-sub-david-lochridge-safety-concerns-sacked-oceangate-stockton-rush-hamish-harding/
> > > During the meeting, Lochridge said he discovered that the Titan’s
> > > viewport was certified to a pressure of 1,300 meters below sea level.
> > > OceanGate intended to take passengers on the Titan down to depths of
> > > 4,000 meters.
> > >
> > > According to OceanGate’s website, the Titan reaches a maximum depth of
> > > 3,800 meters (12,500 feet) on its Titanic dives.
> > >
> > > However, Lochridge alleged that the company refused to pay for the
> > > Titan’s manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required
> > > standards for these depths.
> > >
> > > He also said in the lawsuit that paying passengers would not be aware or
> > > informed of the Titan’s “experimental viewport design,” the lack of
> > > sufficient safety testing of the hull, or that hazardous flammable
> > > materials had been used in its construction. He said he strongly urged
> > > the company to use a classification agency like the American Bureau of
> > > Shipping to inspect and certify the Titan.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ...maybe they banged a little too hard?
> > > >
> > > > broke the window to swim...up?
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, now 'they' say the passengers didn't know what happen when it
> > > > > imploded...
> > > > >
> > > > > then...what was all that BANGING they heard before?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It doesn't have a toilet?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > an Xbox contoller makes it go left?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > no fat people allowed in dat thing, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > don't lean on the window...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I want the names and pictures of those NASA guys who worked on dat
> > > > > > thing...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i wanna see what stupid people look like.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trust the Science.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > > and challenge
> > > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On 6/24/2023 10:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> HEY, WHO WANTS TO GO ON A SPACE STATION TOUR???!?
>
> wat can possibly go wrong?
>
>
> i wanna see Captain Kirk get on it again....
[...]

Well, check this shit out... Captain Kirk is managing a different kind
of ship now...

https://youtu.be/SpPgavT5am4

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:56:37 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/24/2023 10:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > HEY, WHO WANTS TO GO ON A SPACE STATION TOUR???!?
> >
> > wat can possibly go wrong?
> >
> >
> > i wanna see Captain Kirk get on it again....
> [...]
>
> Well, check this shit out... Captain Kirk is managing a different kind
> of ship now...
>
> https://youtu.be/SpPgavT5am4

We are weak, writing is difficult, but for my own sake I do not regret this journey, which has shown that Englishmen can endure hardships, help one another, and meet death with as great a fortitude as ever in the past. We took risks, we knew we took them; things have come out against us, and therefore we have no cause for complaint, but bow to the will of Providence, determined still to do our best to the last. But if we have been willing to give our lives to this enterprise, which is for the honour of our country, I appeal to our countrymen to see that those who depend on us are properly cared for.

Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood, endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the tale, but surely, surely, a great rich country like ours will see that those who are dependent on us are properly provided for.

Since the 21st we have had a continuous gale from W.S.W. and S.W. We had fuel to make two cups of tea apiece and bare food for two days on the 20th. Every day we have been ready to start for our depot 11 miles away, but outside the door of the tent it remains a scene of whirling drift. I do not think we can hope for any better things now. We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker, of course, and the end cannot be far.

It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more.

R. SCOTT.

For God’s sake look after our people.

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > >>> batteries.
> > >> [...]
> > >>
> > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > >
> > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > >
> > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Hahahahh :-)
> >
> > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> >
> > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > saying is what matters!"
> >
> > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > www.avast.com
> .
> //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> June 24, 2023
> .
> Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> .
> Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>
> That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> .
> The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> .
> Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> was near instantly reduced to: –
> 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> .
> The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> initially: –
> (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> .
> The air bubble rising from the Titan
> was only the size of a party balloon.
> .
> GEO
..
*/George Hammond MS Physics/*
July 1, 2023
..
Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
show 2 major points: –
..
1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
..
2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
..
Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
RELEASED prior to the implosion !
This indicates that the Titan had reversed
direction and was on the way up again –
presumably from some major emergency !
..
Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
have occurred either before or after the
implosion – no way to tell at this point?
..
The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
several minutes of pre-implosion drama
(crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
final implosion ! ... Gad !!
..
GEO __ MS Physics

George Hammond wrote:

> */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> July 1, 2023 .
> Videos of the recovered Titan fragments show 2 major points: –

nonsense. I see no "Hammond" there. You changed your name and moved to
america. You are a "zelensky".

George Hammond wrote:
>
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > > >>> batteries.
> > > >> [...]
> > > >>
> > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > > >
> > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hahahahh :-)
> > >
> > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> > >
> > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > > saying is what matters!"
> > >
> > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > > www.avast.com
> > .
> > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> > June 24, 2023
> > .
> > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> > .
> > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
> >
> > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> > .
> > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> > .
> > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> > was near instantly reduced to: –
> > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> > .
> > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> > initially: –
> > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> > .
> > The air bubble rising from the Titan
> > was only the size of a party balloon.
> > .
> > GEO
> .
> */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> July 1, 2023
> .
> Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
> show 2 major points: –
> .
> 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
> .
> 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
> .
> Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
> RELEASED prior to the implosion !
> This indicates that the Titan had reversed
> direction and was on the way up again –
> presumably from some major emergency !
> .
> Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
> have occurred either before or after the
> implosion – no way to tell at this point?
> .
> The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
> bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
> that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
> indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
> maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
> several minutes of pre-implosion drama
> (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
> final implosion ! ... Gad !!
> .
> GEO __ MS Physics

Official 1: (Stunned) Look at these videos! The viewing window is
missing!

Official 2: (Examining the footage) You're right! The window is gone.
But the undercarriage is undamaged.

Official 3: (Thoughtfully) That means the undercarriage was released
before the implosion.

Official 4: (Nervously) Why would they release it? What could have been
the emergency?

Official 1: (Hypothesizing) Perhaps they encountered a problem and were
trying to resurface quickly.

Official 2: (Anxious) That might explain the banging noises we heard
earlier. They were trying to get help!

Official 3: (Speculating) But if the undercarriage was released
intentionally, they must have been in serious trouble.

Official 4: (Uneasy) What kind of trouble could cause them to make such
a drastic move?

Official 1: (Looking worried) It's hard to say. Maybe they were running
out of oxygen or had a critical system failure.

Official 2: (Gulping) Whatever happened, it must have been terrifying
for them.

Official 3: (Trying to remain calm) It's possible they were struggling
to fix the issue before it was too late.

Official 4: (Panicking) But it looks like they didn't have enough time.
The implosion must have been devastating!

Official 1: (In shock) Imagine the final moments—crackling, popping
noises... The fear they must have felt.

Official 2: (Distressed) It's heartbreaking to think about. They were so
close to making it back.

Official 3: (Swallowing hard) We have to hope that they didn't suffer
for long.

Official 4: (Grieving) Rest in peace, my friends. We can't change what
happened, but we must stay strong.

The new details from the recovered Titan fragments have left the
Officials with more questions than answers. They try to piece together
the events that
led to the sub's implosion, pondering the emergency that forced the
undercarriage release. The dialogue reflects their shock and sorrow as
they contemplate
the dramatic turn of events that may have unfolded inside the sub before
its final moments.

I heard somebody was offered a ticket at half the price! Bring your
kids!!

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:02:31 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > It doesn't have a toilet?
> >
> > It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping)
> >
> > Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing???
> >
> > an Xbox contoller makes it go left?
> >
> > no fat people allowed in dat thing, right?
> >
> > don't lean on the window...
> I want the names and pictures of those NASA guys who worked on dat
> thing...
>
> i wanna see what stupid people look like.

It seems the CEO was simply lying about the extent of NASA's involvement.

--
Jan

JanPB wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:02:31 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > It doesn't have a toilet?
> > >
> > > It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping)
> > >
> > > Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing???
> > >
> > > an Xbox contoller makes it go left?
> > >
> > > no fat people allowed in dat thing, right?
> > >
> > > don't lean on the window...
> > I want the names and pictures of those NASA guys who worked on dat
> > thing...
> >
> > i wanna see what stupid people look like.
>
> It seems the CEO was simply lying about the extent of NASA's involvement.
>
> --
> Jan

"the extent"???? You mean 'they' are doing an 'Einstein on it'...NASA didn't actually worked on the sub project directly, just indirectly as consultants.

Eveybody will be walking away from dis one...

"I HAD NOTHIN TO DO WIT IT!!!!"

"where's my check?"

Not even the gamepad controller manufacture wants to comment on it.

and the banging just...disapeared.

"Banging? What banging??"

"i didn't hear no banging...."

apologists

a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> JanPB wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:02:31 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It doesn't have a toilet?
> > > >
> > > > It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping)
> > > >
> > > > Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing???
> > > >
> > > > an Xbox contoller makes it go left?
> > > >
> > > > no fat people allowed in dat thing, right?
> > > >
> > > > don't lean on the window...
> > > I want the names and pictures of those NASA guys who worked on dat
> > > thing...
> > >
> > > i wanna see what stupid people look like.
> >
> > It seems the CEO was simply lying about the extent of NASA's involvement.
> >
> > --
> > Jan
>
> "the extent"???? You mean 'they' are doing an 'Einstein on it'...NASA didn't actually worked on the sub project directly, just indirectly as consultants.
>
> Eveybody will be walking away from dis one...
>
> "I HAD NOTHIN TO DO WIT IT!!!!"
>
> "where's my check?"
>
> Not even the gamepad controller manufacture wants to comment on it.
>
> and the banging just...disapeared.
>
> "Banging? What banging??"
>
> "i didn't hear no banging...."
>
> apologists
>
> a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial.
>

HELL, it LOOKS like it was Built by NASA!
https://gray-waff-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/kC7V0hnBoK6cJIoFJrGwtEpWJxA=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/4GP5RFSEXNDJPJH2MNEPC2ANVI.jpg

NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate and consulted on materials and manufacturing processes for the submersible.
For the safety of our team members during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as limited resources and availability, NASA Marshall engineers only participated remotely
in technical interchange meetings, providing consultation for materials and manufacturing processes based on industry standards.

blame it on the chink virus!

To put it simply...NASA FUCKED UP AGAIN!

Ask any teacher if they will in one built by NASA...

Every time NASA sends something up in the sky...people close their eyes and ears and scream..."IT'S GOING TO FUCKING EXPLODE!!!!"

Why would anybody get into anything built by NASA? YOU THINK THEY GIVE A FUCK IF YOU DIE?????

Who's idea was it to use a gamepad joystick to Navigate dat sub???? WHO????

NASA...it couldn't be anybody else.

Only NASA thinks of things like that!

Here is the video of the guy with the toy controller in his hand inside
the sub...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDINqAAFaQ&t=63s

Who's idea was it to use a toy gamepad to Navigate dat sub???? WHO????

NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate and consulted on materials and manufacturing processes for the submersible.
For the safety of our team members during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as limited resources and availability, NASA Marshall engineers only participated remotely
in technical interchange meetings, providing consultation for materials and manufacturing processes based on industry standards.

SUE THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS, RIGHT?

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

also, Boeing and NASA were working together on it...

(maybe they plan to steal it also....)

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > JanPB wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:02:31 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It doesn't have a toilet?
> > > > >
> > > > > It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping)
> > > > >
> > > > > Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing???
> > > > >
> > > > > an Xbox contoller makes it go left?
> > > > >
> > > > > no fat people allowed in dat thing, right?
> > > > >
> > > > > don't lean on the window...
> > > > I want the names and pictures of those NASA guys who worked on dat
> > > > thing...
> > > >
> > > > i wanna see what stupid people look like.
> > >
> > > It seems the CEO was simply lying about the extent of NASA's involvement.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jan
> >
> > "the extent"???? You mean 'they' are doing an 'Einstein on it'...NASA didn't actually worked on the sub project directly, just indirectly as consultants.
> >
> > Eveybody will be walking away from dis one...
> >
> > "I HAD NOTHIN TO DO WIT IT!!!!"
> >
> > "where's my check?"
> >
> > Not even the gamepad controller manufacture wants to comment on it.
> >
> > and the banging just...disapeared.
> >
> > "Banging? What banging??"
> >
> > "i didn't hear no banging...."
> >
> > apologists
> >
> > a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial.
> >
>
> HELL, it LOOKS like it was Built by NASA!
> https://gray-waff-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/kC7V0hnBoK6cJIoFJrGwtEpWJxA=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.
>
> NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate and consulted on materials and manufacturing processes for the submersible.
> For the safety of our team members during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as limited resources and availability, NASA Marshall engineers only participated remotely
> in technical interchange meetings, providing consultation for materials and manufacturing processes based on industry standards.
>
> blame it on the chink virus!
>
> To put it simply...NASA FUCKED UP AGAIN!
>
> Ask any teacher if they will in one built by NASA...
>
> Every time NASA sends something up in the sky...people close their eyes and ears and scream..."IT'S GOING TO FUCKING EXPLODE!!!!"
>
> Why would anybody get into anything built by NASA? YOU THINK THEY GIVE A FUCK IF YOU DIE?????
>
> Who's idea was it to use a gamepad joystick to Navigate dat sub???? WHO????
>
> NASA...it couldn't be anybody else.
>
> Only NASA thinks of things like that!
>
>
> Here is the video of the guy with the toy controller in his hand inside
> the sub...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDINqAAFaQ&t=63s
>
> Who's idea was it to use a toy gamepad to Navigate dat sub???? WHO????
>
> NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate and consulted on materials and manufacturing processes for the submersible.
> For the safety of our team members during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as limited resources and availability, NASA Marshall engineers only participated remotely
> in technical interchange meetings, providing consultation for materials and manufacturing processes based on industry standards.
>
> SUE THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS, RIGHT?
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > > >>> batteries.
> > > >> [...]
> > > >>
> > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > > >
> > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hahahahh :-)
> > >
> > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> > >
> > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > > saying is what matters!"
> > >
> > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > > www.avast.com
> > .
> > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> > June 24, 2023
> > .
> > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> > .
> > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
> >
> > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> > .
> > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> > .
> > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> > was near instantly reduced to: –
> > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> > .
> > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> > initially: –
> > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> > .
> > The air bubble rising from the Titan
> > was only the size of a party balloon.
> > .
> > GEO
> .
> */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> July 1, 2023
> .
> Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
> show 2 major points: –
> .
> 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
> .
> 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
> .
> Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
> RELEASED prior to the implosion !
> This indicates that the Titan had reversed
> direction and was on the way up again –
> presumably from some major emergency !
> .
> Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
> have occurred either before or after the
> implosion – no way to tell at this point?
> .
> The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
> bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
> that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
> indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
> maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
> several minutes of pre-implosion drama
> (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
> final implosion ! ... Gad !!
> .
> GEO __ MS Physics
..
**/George Hammond MS Physics/**
July 6, 2023
..
I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
..
A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
should withstand 5000 psi and would only cost about
$15,000 for the Titanium.
..
Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
cylinder was only about 6 inches thick. And Titanium unlike
carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
..
Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
cylinder might be a problem ? But I'll bet someone
would try it !
..
Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
TITANIC in person !
..
GEO ___MS Physics

George Hammond wrote:

> **/G̶e̶o̶r̶g̶e̶ H̶a̶m̶m̶o̶n̶d̶ MS Physics/**

completely nonsense. I see no "Hammond" anywhere. You are a zelenske. You
changed your name and moved to america.

a known problem with you, zelenskies.

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

> Hooray, Ukraine gets NATO status, plus 100 A-10s to clear out the
> Russian trenches.
>
> Plus, 50 F-35 jets with trained pilots flying over the borderline to
> protect Zhaporizhia Hooray

yet another fucking zelenske, changing his name and moved to america.

thinking, like zelenske, to steal a country. But america stole him!! Take
care, you fucking zelenskies. America is full of zelenskies. They were
thinking to steal america. You are too many to steal that shithole.

George Hammond wrote:
>
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > > > >>> batteries.
> > > > >> [...]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Hahahahh :-)
> > > >
> > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> > > >
> > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > > > saying is what matters!"
> > > >
> > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > > > www.avast.com
> > > .
> > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> > > June 24, 2023
> > > .
> > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> > > .
> > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
> > >
> > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> > > .
> > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> > > .
> > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> > > was near instantly reduced to: –
> > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> > > .
> > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> > > initially: –
> > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> > > .
> > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
> > > was only the size of a party balloon.
> > > .
> > > GEO
> > .
> > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> > July 1, 2023
> > .
> > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
> > show 2 major points: –
> > .
> > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
> > .
> > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
> > .
> > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
> > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
> > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
> > direction and was on the way up again –
> > presumably from some major emergency !
> > .
> > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
> > have occurred either before or after the
> > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
> > .
> > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
> > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
> > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
> > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
> > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
> > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
> > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
> > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
> > .
> > GEO __ MS Physics
> .
> **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
> July 6, 2023
> .
> I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
> 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
> TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
> .
> A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
> 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
> should withstand 5000 psi and would only cost about
> $15,000 for the Titanium.
> .
> Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
> cylinder was only about 6 inches thick. And Titanium unlike
> carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
> .
> Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
> cylinder might be a problem ? But I'll bet someone
> would try it !
> .
> Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
> Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
> human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
> TITANIC in person !
> .
> GEO ___MS Physics

The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.

if at first you don't succeed, try try again.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

> Hooray, Ukraine gets NATO status, plus 100 A-10s to clear out the
> Russian trenches.
>
> Plus, 50 F-35 jets with trained pilots flying over the borderline to
> protect Zhaporizhia Hooray

idiot

*_MIG_21,_year_1980,_Mach_2.2_*

*_F_35,_year_2023-2030,_Mach_1.6_*

,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
it went Forward instead, or in circles!

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> George Hammond wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > > > > >>> batteries.
> > > > > >> [...]
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> > > > >
> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > > > > saying is what matters!"
> > > > >
> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > .
> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> > > > June 24, 2023
> > > > .
> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> > > > .
> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
> > > >
> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> > > > .
> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> > > > .
> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> > > > .
> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> > > > initially: –
> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> > > > .
> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
> > > > .
> > > > GEO
> > > .
> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> > > July 1, 2023
> > > .
> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
> > > show 2 major points: –
> > > .
> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
> > > .
> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
> > > .
> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
> > > direction and was on the way up again –
> > > presumably from some major emergency !
> > > .
> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
> > > have occurred either before or after the
> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
> > > .
> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
> > > .
> > > GEO __ MS Physics
> > .
> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
> > July 6, 2023
> > .
> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
> > .
> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
> > should withstand 5000 psi and would only cost about
> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
> > .
> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick. And Titanium unlike
> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
> > .
> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
> > cylinder might be a problem ? But I'll bet someone
> > would try it !
> > .
> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
> > TITANIC in person !
> > .
> > GEO ___MS Physics
>
> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>
> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

and lets not forget.. this sub was built in America, not anywhere
else.

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:40:28 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
>it went Forward instead, or in circles!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> George Hammond wrote:
>> >
>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>> > > > > >>> batteries.
>> > > > > >> [...]
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>> > > > > saying is what matters!"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> > > > > www.avast.com
>> > > > .
>> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
>> > > > June 24, 2023
>> > > > .
>> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
>> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
>> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
>> > > > .
>> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
>> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
>> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
>> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
>> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>> > > >
>> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
>> > > > .
>> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
>> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
>> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
>> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
>> > > > initially: –
>> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
>> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
>> > > > .
>> > > > GEO
>> > > .
>> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
>> > > July 1, 2023
>> > > .
>> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
>> > > show 2 major points: –
>> > > .
>> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
>> > > .
>> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
>> > > .
>> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
>> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
>> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
>> > > direction and was on the way up again –
>> > > presumably from some major emergency !
>> > > .
>> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
>> > > have occurred either before or after the
>> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
>> > > .
>> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
>> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
>> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
>> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
>> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
>> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
>> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
>> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
>> > > .
>> > > GEO __ MS Physics
>> > .
>> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
>> > July 6, 2023
>> > .
>> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
>> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
>> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
>> > .
>> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
>> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
>> > should withstand 5000 psi and would only cost about
>> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
>> > .
>> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
>> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick. And Titanium unlike
>> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
>> > .
>> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
>> > cylinder might be a problem ? But I'll bet someone
>> > would try it !
>> > .
>> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
>> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
>> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
>> > TITANIC in person !
>> > .
>> > GEO ___MS Physics
>>
>> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>>
>> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.

Reminds me of that line in the movie Apollo 13...

Gene Kranz : Let's look at this thing from a... um, from a standpoint
of status. What do we got on the spacecraft that's good?

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:40:28 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
>it went Forward instead, or in circles!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> George Hammond wrote:
>> >
>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>> > > > > >>> batteries.
>> > > > > >> [...]
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>> > > > > saying is what matters!"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> > > > > www.avast.com
>> > > > .
>> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
>> > > > June 24, 2023
>> > > > .
>> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
>> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
>> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
>> > > > .
>> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
>> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
>> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
>> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
>> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>> > > >
>> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
>> > > > .
>> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
>> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
>> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
>> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
>> > > > initially: –
>> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
>> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
>> > > > .
>> > > > GEO
>> > > .
>> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
>> > > July 1, 2023
>> > > .
>> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
>> > > show 2 major points: –
>> > > .
>> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
>> > > .
>> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
>> > > .
>> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
>> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
>> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
>> > > direction and was on the way up again –
>> > > presumably from some major emergency !
>> > > .
>> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
>> > > have occurred either before or after the
>> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
>> > > .
>> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
>> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
>> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
>> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
>> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
>> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
>> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
>> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
>> > > .
>> > > GEO __ MS Physics
>> > .
>> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
>> > July 6, 2023
>> > .
>> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
>> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
>> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
>> > .
>> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
>> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
>> > should withstand 5000 psi and would only cost about
>> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
>> > .
>> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
>> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick. And Titanium unlike
>> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
>> > .
>> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
>> > cylinder might be a problem ? But I'll bet someone
>> > would try it !
>> > .
>> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
>> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
>> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
>> > TITANIC in person !
>> > .
>> > GEO ___MS Physics
>>
>> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>>
>> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.

Gene Kranz : I don't care about what anything was DESIGNED to do, I
care about what it CAN do.

Sy Liebergot : Flight... I recommend we shut down reactant valves to
the fuel cells.

Gene Kranz : What the hell good is that gonna do?

Sy Liebergot : If that's where the leak is, we can isolate it. We can
save what's left in the tanks and we can run on the good cell.

Gene Kranz : You close 'em, you can't open 'em again! You can't land
on the moon with one healthy fuel cell!

Sy Liebergot : Gene, the Odyssey is *dying*. From my chair here, this
is the last option.

Gene Kranz : EECOM, is this an instrumentation problem, or are we
looking at real power loss here?

Sy Liebergot : It's, it's reading a quadruple failure - that can't
happen! It's, it's got to be instrumentation.

Gene Kranz : God damn, see, these guys are talking about bangs and
shimmies up there. It doesn't sound like instrumentation to me.

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 17:33:01 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Reminds me of that line in the movie Apollo 13...
>
>Gene Kranz : Let's look at this thing from a... um, from a standpoint
>of status. What do we got on the spacecraft that's good?
>
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:40:28 -0700, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
>>it went Forward instead, or in circles!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> George Hammond wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>>> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>>> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>> > > > > >>> batteries.
>>> > > > > >> [...]
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>>> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>>> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>>> > > > > saying is what matters!"
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --
>>> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> > > > > www.avast.com
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
>>> > > > June 24, 2023
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
>>> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
>>> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
>>> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
>>> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
>>> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
>>> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>>> > > >
>>> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
>>> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
>>> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
>>> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
>>> > > > initially: –
>>> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
>>> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > GEO
>>> > > .
>>> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
>>> > > July 1, 2023
>>> > > .
>>> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
>>> > > show 2 major points: –
>>> > > .
>>> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
>>> > > .
>>> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
>>> > > .
>>> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
>>> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
>>> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
>>> > > direction and was on the way up again –
>>> > > presumably from some major emergency !
>>> > > .
>>> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
>>> > > have occurred either before or after the
>>> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
>>> > > .
>>> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
>>> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
>>> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
>>> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
>>> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
>>> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
>>> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
>>> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
>>> > > .
>>> > > GEO __ MS Physics
>>> > .
>>> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
>>> > July 6, 2023
>>> > .
>>> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
>>> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
>>> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
>>> > .
>>> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
>>> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
>>> > should withstand 5000 psi and would only cost about
>>> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
>>> > .
>>> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
>>> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick. And Titanium unlike
>>> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
>>> > .
>>> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
>>> > cylinder might be a problem ? But I'll bet someone
>>> > would try it !
>>> > .
>>> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
>>> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
>>> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
>>> > TITANIC in person !
>>> > .
>>> > GEO ___MS Physics
>>>
>>> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>>>
>>> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>>>
>>> --
>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> and challenge
>>> the unchallengeable.