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Re: John Gabriel is dead

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 29 May 2023 13:29 UTC

You are all fools! Well its a Hoax!

John Gabriel is not dead. He just uploaded another paper
on Academia. PDF was generated 29.05.23, 14:30:41.
Or maybe it was some imposter?

I got this notification:

------------------------ cut here -----------------------------

Hi Gottlob,

John Gabriel just uploaded "Symmetry of the circle
defines four basic arithmetic operations (- ..." on Academia.edu.

View the paper here:

https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7y4LVt-UCg0p/resource/work/102530388/Symmetry_of_the_circle_defines_four_basic_arithmetic_operations_x_

Thanks,
The Academia.edu Team

------------------------ cut here -----------------------------

Python schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 00:13:06 UTC+2:
> I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
>
> I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> maintainer of this YT channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
>
> "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
>
> I won't apologize.
>
> You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> I had to say about "New Calculus".
>
> My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> published on academia.edu had been removed.
>
> John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
>
> John was ill, mentally, for decades.
>
> Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> fantasying about stuff he never understood.
>
> Farewell John.

Re: John Gabriel is dead

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 29 May 2023 13:35 UTC

Pitty he doesn't mention, that by ruler and compass, using
again Thales's theorem, one can also construct square roots,
in relation to some chosen unit. But I guess John Gabriel would

hate that, because sqrt(2) is irrational. Since he thinks:

4. There are no irrational numbers. Hence no real numbers also.
https://thenewcalculus.weebly.com/

LoL

Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 15:29:40 UTC+2:
> You are all fools! Well its a Hoax!
>
> John Gabriel is not dead. He just uploaded another paper
> on Academia. PDF was generated 29.05.23, 14:30:41.
> Or maybe it was some imposter?
>
> I got this notification:
>
> ------------------------ cut here -----------------------------
>
> Hi Gottlob,
>
> John Gabriel just uploaded "Symmetry of the circle
> defines four basic arithmetic operations (- ..." on Academia.edu.
>
> View the paper here:
>
> https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7y4LVt-UCg0p/resource/work/102530388/Symmetry_of_the_circle_defines_four_basic_arithmetic_operations_x_
>
> Thanks,
> The Academia.edu Team
>
> ------------------------ cut here -----------------------------
> Python schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 00:13:06 UTC+2:
> > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> >
> > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> >
> > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> >
> > I won't apologize.
> >
> > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> >
> > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> >
> > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> >
> > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> >
> > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> >
> > Farewell John.

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Is death a bug or feature? Maybe its an evolutionary feature,
since we have reproduction, and without death there would
be over production, and reproduction and thus mutation,

is necessary to cope with the changing environment. Maybe
humanity will evolve into more longevity and less reproduction,
or even a kind of immortality, maybe for our solar system.

Humans might then still be crashed by a Magnetar. In as
far, maybe we should beg John Garbiel to really commit
suicide, since it is effectively in some "crank trap", his science

that he reproduces via spam, lacks a mutation i.e. learning
component. Its like a broken turn table. Time to smash the
broken turn table into piece and stop the nonsense!

Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 15:35:08 UTC+2:
> Pitty he doesn't mention, that by ruler and compass, using
> again Thales's theorem, one can also construct square roots,
> in relation to some chosen unit. But I guess John Gabriel would
>
> hate that, because sqrt(2) is irrational. Since he thinks:
>
> 4. There are no irrational numbers. Hence no real numbers also.
> https://thenewcalculus.weebly.com/
>
> LoL
> Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 15:29:40 UTC+2:
> > You are all fools! Well its a Hoax!
> >
> > John Gabriel is not dead. He just uploaded another paper
> > on Academia. PDF was generated 29.05.23, 14:30:41.
> > Or maybe it was some imposter?
> >
> > I got this notification:
> >
> > ------------------------ cut here -----------------------------
> >
> > Hi Gottlob,
> >
> > John Gabriel just uploaded "Symmetry of the circle
> > defines four basic arithmetic operations (- ..." on Academia.edu.
> >
> > View the paper here:
> >
> > https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7y4LVt-UCg0p/resource/work/102530388/Symmetry_of_the_circle_defines_four_basic_arithmetic_operations_x_
> >
> > Thanks,
> > The Academia.edu Team
> >
> > ------------------------ cut here -----------------------------
> > Python schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 00:13:06 UTC+2:
> > > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> > >
> > > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> > >
> > > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> > >
> > > I won't apologize.
> > >
> > > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> > >
> > > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> > >
> > > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> > >
> > > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> > >
> > > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> > >
> > > Farewell John.

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 29 May 2023 16:09 UTC

Woa! John Garbiel uploaded yet another PDF:

https://www.academia.edu/102532463/Rate_of_Change_Instantaneous_Rate_of_Change

I will unsubscribe from this Academia nonsense.
Thats a little annoying to get these updates.

Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 15:40:01 UTC+2:
> Is death a bug or feature? Maybe its an evolutionary feature,
> since we have reproduction, and without death there would
> be over production, and reproduction and thus mutation,
>
> is necessary to cope with the changing environment. Maybe
> humanity will evolve into more longevity and less reproduction,
> or even a kind of immortality, maybe for our solar system.
>
> Humans might then still be crashed by a Magnetar. In as
> far, maybe we should beg John Garbiel to really commit
> suicide, since it is effectively in some "crank trap", his science
>
> that he reproduces via spam, lacks a mutation i.e. learning
> component. Its like a broken turn table. Time to smash the
> broken turn table into piece and stop the nonsense!
> Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 15:35:08 UTC+2:
> > Pitty he doesn't mention, that by ruler and compass, using
> > again Thales's theorem, one can also construct square roots,
> > in relation to some chosen unit. But I guess John Gabriel would
> >
> > hate that, because sqrt(2) is irrational. Since he thinks:
> >
> > 4. There are no irrational numbers. Hence no real numbers also.
> > https://thenewcalculus.weebly.com/
> >
> > LoL
> > Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 15:29:40 UTC+2:
> > > You are all fools! Well its a Hoax!
> > >
> > > John Gabriel is not dead. He just uploaded another paper
> > > on Academia. PDF was generated 29.05.23, 14:30:41.
> > > Or maybe it was some imposter?
> > >
> > > I got this notification:
> > >
> > > ------------------------ cut here -----------------------------
> > >
> > > Hi Gottlob,
> > >
> > > John Gabriel just uploaded "Symmetry of the circle
> > > defines four basic arithmetic operations (- ..." on Academia.edu.
> > >
> > > View the paper here:
> > >
> > > https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7y4LVt-UCg0p/resource/work/102530388/Symmetry_of_the_circle_defines_four_basic_arithmetic_operations_x_
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > The Academia.edu Team
> > >
> > > ------------------------ cut here -----------------------------
> > > Python schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 00:13:06 UTC+2:
> > > > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> > > >
> > > > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > > > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> > > >
> > > > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > > > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> > > >
> > > > I won't apologize.
> > > >
> > > > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > > > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > > > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> > > >
> > > > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > > > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> > > >
> > > > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > > > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> > > >
> > > > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> > > >
> > > > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > > > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > > > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > > > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> > > >
> > > > Farewell John.

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 by: Ross Finlayson - Mon, 29 May 2023 16:35 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 4:59:28 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:42, Beau Kool a écrit :
> > Python wrote:
> >
> >> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:00, Kent Sanna a écrit :
> >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/28/2023 3:48 PM, Python wrote:
> >>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 00:46, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :
> >>>>>>> We need proof, not travesty.
> >>>>>> Yell Python, then shoot himself?
> >>>>> Chris, please refrain yourself. Give respect.
> >>>> Indeed. I hope that the afterlife is good for him.
> >>>
> >>> impossible. Common error. As dead you can't possibly know that you are
> >>> dead. Your brain decomposes.
> >>
> >> Why did you post that?
> >
> > you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead. People
> > think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the don't. Are you
> > fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a completely
> > different domain.
> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
> whatever he posted, committed suicide.
>
> Pay respect.
>
> Go to Hell (I don't believe in Hell) !
>
> Farewell John Gabriel!

But, suicide's a sin.

Some have it's a right, but, some have it's a sin.

(Some have that love is like it, like Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins.
But, in similar cultures there's that climax is analogized with death.
Anyways the end of Superunknown is really great, and Mellon Collie
and the Infinite Sadness is pretty good listening. There's a band
called Suicidal Tendencies, it rocks pretty hard, and I've always enjoyed
The Art of Rebellion. Counting on nothing / the numbers get higher. )

Some people abuse mental illness. Some use it to push drugs,
others to normalize bad behavior, others to create a culture
of victimality, others to give it to everybody.

Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy", really spoke to a lot of people.

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 29 May 2023 17:04 UTC

About your music taste. I didn't know that you are that
romantic, do you read Hölderlin in your spare time. You
must have much success with women.

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 4:59:28 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
>> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:42, Beau Kool a écrit :
>>> Python wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:00, Kent Sanna a écrit :
>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/28/2023 3:48 PM, Python wrote:
>>>>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 00:46, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> We need proof, not travesty.
>>>>>>>> Yell Python, then shoot himself?
>>>>>>> Chris, please refrain yourself. Give respect.
>>>>>> Indeed. I hope that the afterlife is good for him.
>>>>>
>>>>> impossible. Common error. As dead you can't possibly know that you are
>>>>> dead. Your brain decomposes.
>>>>
>>>> Why did you post that?
>>>
>>> you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead. People
>>> think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the don't. Are you
>>> fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a completely
>>> different domain.
>> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
>> whatever he posted, committed suicide.
>>
>> Pay respect.
>>
>> Go to Hell (I don't believe in Hell) !
>>
>> Farewell John Gabriel!
>
> But, suicide's a sin.
>
> Some have it's a right, but, some have it's a sin.
>
> (Some have that love is like it, like Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins.
> But, in similar cultures there's that climax is analogized with death.
> Anyways the end of Superunknown is really great, and Mellon Collie
> and the Infinite Sadness is pretty good listening. There's a band
> called Suicidal Tendencies, it rocks pretty hard, and I've always enjoyed
> The Art of Rebellion. Counting on nothing / the numbers get higher. )
>
> Some people abuse mental illness. Some use it to push drugs,
> others to normalize bad behavior, others to create a culture
> of victimality, others to give it to everybody.
>
>
> Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy", really spoke to a lot of people.
>
>
>

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 by: Mild Shock - Mon, 29 May 2023 17:11 UTC

Was John Gabriel, or is John Gabriel a modern Hyperion?

"Set during the late 18th century, "Hyperion" depicts
the political and social unrest of the time, particularly
in relation to the French Revolution. Hyperion, a Greek
poet and idealist, finds himself torn between his

longing for personal fulfillment and his desire to
participate in the larger struggle for freedom and
justice. Through a series of letters and monologues,
Hyperion reflects on his own experiences, relationships.

As the novel progresses, Hyperion's journey becomes a
metaphorical quest for transcendence and self-realization.
He wrestles with his own inner conflicts, his pursuit
of an aesthetic and spiritual ideal, and his struggle

to reconcile the limitations of human existence with
his lofty aspirations. "Hyperion" is a novel written
by Friedrich Hölderlin, a German poet and philosopher,
published in 1797-1799."

Mild Shock schrieb:
>
> About your music taste. I didn't know that you are that
> romantic, do you read Hölderlin in your spare time. You
> must have much success with women.
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 4:59:28 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:42, Beau Kool a écrit :
>>>> Python wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:00, Kent Sanna a écrit :
>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/28/2023 3:48 PM, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 00:46, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> We need proof, not travesty.
>>>>>>>>> Yell Python, then shoot himself?
>>>>>>>> Chris, please refrain yourself. Give respect.
>>>>>>> Indeed. I hope that the afterlife is good for him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> impossible. Common error. As dead you can't possibly know that you
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> dead. Your brain decomposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did you post that?
>>>>
>>>> you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead.
>>>> People
>>>> think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the don't. Are
>>>> you
>>>> fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a completely
>>>> different domain.
>>> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
>>> whatever he posted, committed suicide.
>>>
>>> Pay respect.
>>>
>>> Go to Hell (I don't believe in Hell) !
>>>
>>> Farewell John Gabriel!
>>
>> But, suicide's a sin.
>>
>> Some have it's a right, but, some have it's a sin.
>>
>> (Some have that love is like it, like Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins.
>> But, in similar cultures there's that climax is analogized with death.
>> Anyways the end of Superunknown is really great, and Mellon Collie
>> and the Infinite Sadness is pretty good listening.  There's a band
>> called Suicidal Tendencies, it rocks pretty hard, and I've always enjoyed
>> The Art of Rebellion.  Counting on nothing / the numbers get higher. )
>>
>> Some people abuse mental illness.  Some use it to push drugs,
>> others to normalize bad behavior, others to create a culture
>> of victimality, others to give it to everybody.
>>
>>
>> Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy", really spoke to a lot of
>> people.
>>
>>
>>
>

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 29 May 2023 18:31 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:13:54 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> Was John Gabriel, or is John Gabriel a modern Hyperion?
>
> "Set during the late 18th century, "Hyperion" depicts
> the political and social unrest of the time, particularly
> in relation to the French Revolution. Hyperion, a Greek
> poet and idealist, finds himself torn between his
>
> longing for personal fulfillment and his desire to
> participate in the larger struggle for freedom and
> justice. Through a series of letters and monologues,
> Hyperion reflects on his own experiences, relationships.
>
> As the novel progresses, Hyperion's journey becomes a
> metaphorical quest for transcendence and self-realization.
> He wrestles with his own inner conflicts, his pursuit
> of an aesthetic and spiritual ideal, and his struggle
>
> to reconcile the limitations of human existence with
> his lofty aspirations. "Hyperion" is a novel written
> by Friedrich Hölderlin, a German poet and philosopher,
> published in 1797-1799."
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
> >
> > About your music taste. I didn't know that you are that
> > romantic, do you read Hölderlin in your spare time. You
> > must have much success with women.
> >
> > Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> >> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 4:59:28 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
> >>> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:42, Beau Kool a écrit :
> >>>> Python wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:00, Kent Sanna a écrit :
> >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5/28/2023 3:48 PM, Python wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 00:46, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>> We need proof, not travesty.
> >>>>>>>>> Yell Python, then shoot himself?
> >>>>>>>> Chris, please refrain yourself. Give respect.
> >>>>>>> Indeed. I hope that the afterlife is good for him.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> impossible. Common error. As dead you can't possibly know that you
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> dead. Your brain decomposes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why did you post that?
> >>>>
> >>>> you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead.
> >>>> People
> >>>> think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the don't. Are
> >>>> you
> >>>> fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a completely
> >>>> different domain.
> >>> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
> >>> whatever he posted, committed suicide.
> >>>
> >>> Pay respect.
> >>>
> >>> Go to Hell (I don't believe in Hell) !
> >>>
> >>> Farewell John Gabriel!
> >>
> >> But, suicide's a sin.
> >>
> >> Some have it's a right, but, some have it's a sin.
> >>
> >> (Some have that love is like it, like Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins.
> >> But, in similar cultures there's that climax is analogized with death.
> >> Anyways the end of Superunknown is really great, and Mellon Collie
> >> and the Infinite Sadness is pretty good listening. There's a band
> >> called Suicidal Tendencies, it rocks pretty hard, and I've always enjoyed
> >> The Art of Rebellion. Counting on nothing / the numbers get higher. )
> >>
> >> Some people abuse mental illness. Some use it to push drugs,
> >> others to normalize bad behavior, others to create a culture
> >> of victimality, others to give it to everybody.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy", really spoke to a lot of
> >> people.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >

What drove him to it?
Did he lose in math in the end?
He had a victim mentality.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Mon, 29 May 2023 20:16 UTC

On 5/29/2023 3:06 AM, Yan Maas wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>
>>> never know you are this stupid. The most he knew was attempting
>>> suicide,
>>
>> Huh? attempting suicide? What are you on right now?
>>
>>> not that he is dead. Idiot, now go fuck. What an imbecile, ladies and
>>> gentlemen. He never know that he is dead, and never will know that he
>>> is dead. You know that, but not him. Idiot.
>
> yet another imbecile with a mouth on his face. Many suicide attempts are
> not ending in death, idiot. If it did, he can't know that since his brain
> is decomposed. Thus, he never will know that he died in that attempt. You
> fucking idiot. How many idiots are you around in this group here?

listen, buddy. John is smart enough to be able to kill himself. A failed
suicide is rather pathetic. John, the genius, would have succeeded.

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On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-7, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 12:13:06 AM UTC+2, Python wrote:
>
> > I won't apologize.
>
> And you are right! Why the hell should you? You never attacked JG for personal reasons (as far as I know).
>
> Moreover:
> > John was ill, physically, for years.
> and:
> > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> Agree.
> > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
>
> A lost case. Very much like Mückenheim.

And Archimedes.

--
Jan

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On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:05:06 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> About your music taste. I didn't know that you are that
> romantic, do you read Hölderlin in your spare time. You
> must have much success with women.
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 4:59:28 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
> >> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:42, Beau Kool a écrit :
> >>> Python wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:00, Kent Sanna a écrit :
> >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/28/2023 3:48 PM, Python wrote:
> >>>>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 00:46, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>> We need proof, not travesty.
> >>>>>>>> Yell Python, then shoot himself?
> >>>>>>> Chris, please refrain yourself. Give respect.
> >>>>>> Indeed. I hope that the afterlife is good for him.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> impossible. Common error. As dead you can't possibly know that you are
> >>>>> dead. Your brain decomposes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why did you post that?
> >>>
> >>> you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead. People
> >>> think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the don't. Are you
> >>> fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a completely
> >>> different domain.
> >> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
> >> whatever he posted, committed suicide.
> >>
> >> Pay respect.
> >>
> >> Go to Hell (I don't believe in Hell) !
> >>
> >> Farewell John Gabriel!
> >
> > But, suicide's a sin.
> >
> > Some have it's a right, but, some have it's a sin.
> >
> > (Some have that love is like it, like Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins..
> > But, in similar cultures there's that climax is analogized with death.
> > Anyways the end of Superunknown is really great, and Mellon Collie
> > and the Infinite Sadness is pretty good listening. There's a band
> > called Suicidal Tendencies, it rocks pretty hard, and I've always enjoyed
> > The Art of Rebellion. Counting on nothing / the numbers get higher. )
> >
> > Some people abuse mental illness. Some use it to push drugs,
> > others to normalize bad behavior, others to create a culture
> > of victimality, others to give it to everybody.
> >
> >
> > Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy", really spoke to a lot of people.
> >
> >
> >

I suppose that's for the DNA survey to get sorted out.

It doesn't really work out to set out to be a success with women,
what you do is set out to be a success, then they'll want you,
then you fall in love together, and experience it.

(It's kind of like women all like one guy while guys like lots of women.)

Women are really into brains, humor, money, athletic ability,
reproducibility, they kind of like artists and musicians,
not all of them are superficial or sexless, then also it varies
whether they want constancy or superiority, in their mate.
Most people want a sort of constancy, and can't get just anybody.

The ideals of enduring love are the greatest, and, marriage is a great institution.

Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.

Mostly though it's eye contact and pheromones locally,
also that some voices and tones are easier to hear than others,
but there's a lot that goes into reputation and image.
Pretty much when the pheromones hit the eyes dilate.
It can't really be "bought" but must be "lived".

There really are two genders, it's biological.

I kind of support "HUPGL" which is "helping ugly people get laid".

That's where about the most natural source of all sorts of
good feelings is, good feelings.

There are lots of kinds of love like the romantic: platonic,
fraternal, filial, parental, self, the above, it's categorized many ways,
and heathily is based on respect, trust, mutual admiration,
not covetousness, jealousy, greed.

("They love to watch her strut.")

("You don't have to be cruel to be kind.")

Musical experience kind of needs to get collected over _time_.

(I imagine you might be familiar with the catalogs of Beatles, Stones, Zep.)

It's kind of like Rouchefoucauld and all his little paeans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_de_La_Rochefoucauld_(writer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_(Spinoza_book)

Nope, been reading some Lyotard and Marcuse,
which is about the class and social dangers of
the information apparatus from the 1970's,
and is very apropos today.

Got this Cosse, "A Novel Bookstore", read Hesse's "Beneath the Wheel"
a while ago, a volume of James Joyce's early works, I much prefer
"Siddhartha" to "Beneath the Wheel", there's a movie with Aishwarya Rai,
"Beneath the Wheel" is sort of like Goethe, who was sort of depressed,
though it's allegorical about Hesse's self-image(s).
Went through some Arthur C. Clarke recently, "Sirius" is
about a robo-dog like "Flowers for Algernon", which is
about the dangers of "brain supplements". I like Stendhal
and Zola, got a little volume with a bunch of Kafka.
"Poems of the Cid", "Polybius: the histories", "Genji".
Polybius is telling me a lot about the Punic Wars, and history.

I've been reading Curme's "Volume I: Parts of Speech and Accidence",
and Volume II, Syntax, is on order and should be here this week. He really
helps explain the richness of copulas in English and why English
is so great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copula_(linguistics)

Anyways Lyotard and Marcuse and the Frankfurt school really
get into why for example the information apparatus needs to
get democratized because otherwise it's not.

I read the daily newspaper's comics daily.

Mostly though I've been interpreting some various approaches
into the Path Integral, about Einstein's Relativity, about the non-linear
and the elasticians, about differential analysis, about methods and
analysis, about standard and non-standard analysis, as of about
"foundations".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtdXHM6k07Y&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F5_h5sSsWDQmbNGsmm97Fy5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v82ZeL_-hy0&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F6Dzc6mMXPfc4W9Y_OafJZj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tynLKPjpjjs&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F5xVz-L3jEuroDKA8hKLEGq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHVOLO1ryGQ&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F41oobFHfUUar7iOwc5vNc3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Postmodern_Condition

Jameson's introduction to "The Postmodern Condition" is sort
of a warning about dystopia. I don't read all of it.

Here are some readings about the dialectic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLoEv9p16iw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgoRuwa2Zcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0jIsXfuUKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BNDx-FUwKM

(My post-modern de-constructionism is a modern constructionism. So, I kind of put
down post-modernism but keep its deconstructive account. )

I kept count to about 120, ..., and you know, a histogram of sorts.
Never needed a ledger. (Mostly, ..., mostly Catholics.)

People talk about conditions spread by contact.
Not all of them are pathological.
Most people start with their family's biome,
and it grows and changes all their lives in their contacts with others.

The _health_ of the biome is not just its _insulation_ but its _exercise_,
and, some conditions of health are _symbiotic_.

So, where it's important to, "not catch something",
it's more important to, "get some".

(And keep it natural.)

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Still waiting for an invitation to Johns bombastic funeral.
Imagine a congregation of 1000 cranks, celebrating the life
and death of an uber-crank. Rossy Boy could play ukulele.

Keith Flint funeral eulogy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JmDq0LoyU

Ross Finlayson schrieb am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2023 um 07:06:58 UTC+2:
> Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
> and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.

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On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 4:37:29 PM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> Still waiting for an invitation to Johns bombastic funeral.
> Imagine a congregation of 1000 cranks, celebrating the life
> and death of an uber-crank. Rossy Boy could play ukulele.
>
> Keith Flint funeral eulogy
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JmDq0LoyU
> Ross Finlayson schrieb am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2023 um 07:06:58 UTC+2:
> > Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
> > and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.

Isn't this it?

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On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:14:19 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote:
> The good thing about John Garbiel, he was leaning towards
> constructivism (Up to a kind of Pythagorism). Although he
> mixed up things many times and its not something original
>
> or novel. This is unlike Dan Christensen who has a firm believe
> in anything his DC Proof tool spouts. There are drinkers coming
> from the absolute infinite.

Really? Where did you see that, Mr. Collapse?

> Ask him for a little material implication,
>
> and peng everybody on the planet is happy, infinite energy forever
> and ever!

Oh, I get it. You are simply making shit up as you go! Very clever.

> Since the Banach Tarski theorem is real. We can just
> produce as many spheres as we want!
>

We are STILL waiting for your formal disproof of BTT so that we can identify precisely where they went wrong. Fame and fortune await, Mr. Collapse! How about it?

Not today? Oh, well...

Dan

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 by: Mild Shock - Thu, 1 Jun 2023 17:37 UTC

The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
Bring your mobile phone to record the event

and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview

your fellow cranks about their key moments with
him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
and made the better out of you. The following band will

appear in the after party for your ravers delight:

The Great Frog Society
https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew

Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:37:29 UTC+2:
> Still waiting for an invitation to Johns bombastic funeral.
> Imagine a congregation of 1000 cranks, celebrating the life
> and death of an uber-crank. Rossy Boy could play ukulele.
>
> Keith Flint funeral eulogy
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JmDq0LoyU
> Ross Finlayson schrieb am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2023 um 07:06:58 UTC+2:
> > Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
> > and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.

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 by: zelos...@gmail.com - Fri, 2 Jun 2023 08:03 UTC

torsdag 1 juni 2023 kl. 19:37:33 UTC+2 skrev Mild Shock:
> The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
> at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
> Bring your mobile phone to record the event
>
> and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
> Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
> great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview
>
> your fellow cranks about their key moments with
> him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
> and made the better out of you. The following band will
>
> appear in the after party for your ravers delight:
>
> The Great Frog Society
> https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew
> Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:37:29 UTC+2:
> > Still waiting for an invitation to Johns bombastic funeral.
> > Imagine a congregation of 1000 cranks, celebrating the life
> > and death of an uber-crank. Rossy Boy could play ukulele.
> >
> > Keith Flint funeral eulogy
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JmDq0LoyU
> > Ross Finlayson schrieb am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2023 um 07:06:58 UTC+2:
> > > Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
> > > and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.

Proof or it didn't happen, given he published his video 4 days ago and https://www.academia.edu/102705943/Why_your_calculus_lecturer_or_mathematics_teacher_is_most_likely_a_buffoon?email_work_card=title yesterday.

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 by: Eram semper recta - Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:42 UTC

On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
>
> I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> maintainer of this YT channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
>
> "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
>
> I won't apologize.
>
> You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> I had to say about "New Calculus".
>
> My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> published on academia.edu had been removed.
>
> John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
>
> John was ill, mentally, for decades.
>
> Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> fantasying about stuff he never understood.
>
> Farewell John.

😢😢😢😢😢😢

I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.

What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.

The bad news is this:
1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.

You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.

Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.

I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.

Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)

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On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 14:42:34 UTC-4, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> >
> > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> >
> > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> >
> > I won't apologize.
> >
> > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> >
> > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> >
> > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> >
> > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> >
> > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> >
> > Farewell John.
>
> 😢😢😢😢😢😢
>
> I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
>
> What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
>
> The bad news is this:
> 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
>
>
> You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.
>
> Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
>
> I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
>
> Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)

Also, if I did end my life, you wouldn't be the reason because you're a nobody! Oh, and just in case you think this is not really me .... CHUCKLE!

HA, HA.

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 by: Eram semper recta - Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:50 UTC

On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 16:16:47 UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/29/2023 3:06 AM, Yan Maas wrote:
> > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >
> >>> never know you are this stupid. The most he knew was attempting
> >>> suicide,
> >>
> >> Huh? attempting suicide? What are you on right now?
> >>
> >>> not that he is dead. Idiot, now go fuck. What an imbecile, ladies and
> >>> gentlemen. He never know that he is dead, and never will know that he
> >>> is dead. You know that, but not him. Idiot.
> >
> > yet another imbecile with a mouth on his face. Many suicide attempts are
> > not ending in death, idiot. If it did, he can't know that since his brain
> > is decomposed. Thus, he never will know that he died in that attempt. You
> > fucking idiot. How many idiots are you around in this group here?
> listen, buddy. John is smart enough to be able to kill himself. A failed
> suicide is rather pathetic. John, the genius, would have succeeded.

Chris, you are the only decent human on this shit pile and I am sorry that I mistreated you.

To the rest of you: GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!! Ha.

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On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 04:03:26 UTC-4, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> torsdag 1 juni 2023 kl. 19:37:33 UTC+2 skrev Mild Shock:
> > The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
> > at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
> > Bring your mobile phone to record the event
> >
> > and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
> > Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
> > great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview
> >
> > your fellow cranks about their key moments with
> > him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
> > and made the better out of you. The following band will
> >
> > appear in the after party for your ravers delight:
> >
> > The Great Frog Society
> > https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew
> > Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:37:29 UTC+2:
> > > Still waiting for an invitation to Johns bombastic funeral.
> > > Imagine a congregation of 1000 cranks, celebrating the life
> > > and death of an uber-crank. Rossy Boy could play ukulele.
> > >
> > > Keith Flint funeral eulogy
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JmDq0LoyU
> > > Ross Finlayson schrieb am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2023 um 07:06:58 UTC+2:
> > > > Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
> > > > and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.
> Proof or it didn't happen, given he published his video 4 days ago and https://www.academia.edu/102705943/Why_your_calculus_lecturer_or_mathematics_teacher_is_most_likely_a_buffoon?email_work_card=title yesterday.

You don't know anything about proofs. Why are you asking for proof? Eyes rolling.

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 by: Mild Shock - Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:57 UTC

I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
for all these people who obviously got carried away
and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible

suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
needed psychological care, and might need
psychological care right now again.

John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
some nonsense video about your misery etc.,

just kill yourself because you staged your death,
and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever

here will be a stain from now on you.

Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 20:42:34 UTC+2:
> On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> >
> > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> >
> > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> >
> > I won't apologize.
> >
> > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> >
> > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> >
> > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> >
> > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> >
> > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> >
> > Farewell John.
>
> 😢😢😢😢😢😢
>
> I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
>
> What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
>
> The bad news is this:
> 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
>
>
> You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.
>
> Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
>
> I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
>
> Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)

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On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 14:57:20 UTC-4, Super crank Jan Burse scribbled:
> I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
> for all these people who obviously got carried away
> and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible
>
> suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
> needed psychological care, and might need
> psychological care right now again.

I think you need psychological care more than all of them combined. I can give you the care you need. Ha, ha.

You moved to Kreuzlingen or somewhere nearby?

What a birdbrain you are Burse! LMAO.

>
> John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
> spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
> some nonsense video about your misery etc.,
>
> just kill yourself because you staged your death,
> and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
> yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever
>
> here will be a stain from now on you.
> Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 20:42:34 UTC+2:
> > On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> > >
> > > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> > >
> > > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> > >
> > > I won't apologize.
> > >
> > > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> > >
> > > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> > >
> > > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> > >
> > > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> > >
> > > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> > >
> > > Farewell John.
> >
> > 😢😢😢😢😢😢
> >
> > I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
> >
> > What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
> >
> > The bad news is this:
> > 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> > 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
> >
> >
> > You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.
> >
> > Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> > You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
> >
> > I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
> >
> > Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)

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 by: Mild Shock - Fri, 2 Jun 2023 19:17 UTC

I grew up in Kreuzlingen. They had a very famous sanatorium
in the past. The Bellevue Klinik. There was an inhabitant that
you should know, Princess Alice of Greece:

The Extraordinary Life Of Princess Alice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwIpxNHVHpk

Unfortunately the Klinik is now out of service, so you
cannot go there John Gabriel. Are you sure you have
Greek genes. Maybe a little Russian as well?

Maybe you are a suicidal Raspuntin?
BTW: Also an interesting figure in Greek history:

Olga Constantinovna of Russia
In February 1901, the translation of the New Testament
from Koine into Modern Greek that she had sponsored
was published without the authorization of the Greek Holy Synod.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Constantinovna_of_Russia

LoL

Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 21:01:10 UTC+2:
> On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 14:57:20 UTC-4, Super crank Jan Burse scribbled:
> > I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
> > for all these people who obviously got carried away
> > and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible
> >
> > suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
> > needed psychological care, and might need
> > psychological care right now again.
> I think you need psychological care more than all of them combined. I can give you the care you need. Ha, ha.
>
> You moved to Kreuzlingen or somewhere nearby?
>
> What a birdbrain you are Burse! LMAO.
> >
> > John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
> > spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
> > some nonsense video about your misery etc.,
> >
> > just kill yourself because you staged your death,
> > and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
> > yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever
> >
> > here will be a stain from now on you.
> > Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 20:42:34 UTC+2:
> > > On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > > > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> > > >
> > > > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > > > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> > > >
> > > > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > > > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> > > >
> > > > I won't apologize.
> > > >
> > > > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > > > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > > > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> > > >
> > > > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > > > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> > > >
> > > > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > > > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> > > >
> > > > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> > > >
> > > > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > > > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > > > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > > > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> > > >
> > > > Farewell John.
> > >
> > > 😢😢😢😢😢😢
> > >
> > > I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
> > >
> > > What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
> > >
> > > The bad news is this:
> > > 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> > > 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
> > >
> > >
> > > You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.
> > >
> > > Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> > > You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
> > >
> > > I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
> > >
> > > Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)

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On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 15:17:10 UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote:
> I grew up in Kreuzlingen. They had a very famous sanatorium
> in the past. The Bellevue Klinik. There was an inhabitant that
> you should know, Princess Alice of Greece:
>
> The Extraordinary Life Of Princess Alice
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwIpxNHVHpk
>
> Unfortunately the Klinik is now out of service, so you
> cannot go there John Gabriel. Are you sure you have
> Greek genes. Maybe a little Russian as well?
>
> Maybe you are a suicidal Raspuntin?
> BTW: Also an interesting figure in Greek history:
>
> Olga Constantinovna of Russia
> In February 1901, the translation of the New Testament
> from Koine into Modern Greek that she had sponsored
> was published without the authorization of the Greek Holy Synod.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Constantinovna_of_Russia
>
> LoL
> Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 21:01:10 UTC+2:
> > On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 14:57:20 UTC-4, Super crank Jan Burse scribbled:
> > > I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
> > > for all these people who obviously got carried away
> > > and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible
> > >
> > > suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
> > > needed psychological care, and might need
> > > psychological care right now again.
> > I think you need psychological care more than all of them combined. I can give you the care you need. Ha, ha.
> >
> > You moved to Kreuzlingen or somewhere nearby?
> >
> > What a birdbrain you are Burse! LMAO.
> > >
> > > John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
> > > spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
> > > some nonsense video about your misery etc.,
> > >
> > > just kill yourself because you staged your death,
> > > and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
> > > yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever
> > >
> > > here will be a stain from now on you.
> > > Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 20:42:34 UTC+2:
> > > > On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > > > > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > > > > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> > > > >
> > > > > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > > > > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> > > > >
> > > > > I won't apologize.
> > > > >
> > > > > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > > > > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > > > > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> > > > >
> > > > > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > > > > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> > > > >
> > > > > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > > > > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> > > > >
> > > > > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> > > > >
> > > > > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > > > > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > > > > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > > > > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> > > > >
> > > > > Farewell John.
> > > >
> > > > 😢😢😢😢😢😢
> > > >
> > > > I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
> > > >
> > > > What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
> > > >
> > > > The bad news is this:
> > > > 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> > > > 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci..math.
> > > >
> > > > Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> > > > You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
> > > >
> > > > I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
> > > >
> > > > Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)

My genes are all on public display here:

https://youtu.be/dgZwaNIioS4

Kreuzlingen is such a beautiful town. I suppose there is a lot of inbreeding there too from what I can tell? Aww. Shame.

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Subject: Re: John Gabriel is dead
From: thenewca...@gmail.com (Eram semper recta)
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 by: Eram semper recta - Fri, 2 Jun 2023 19:25 UTC

On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 15:21:27 UTC-4, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 15:17:10 UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote:
> > I grew up in Kreuzlingen. They had a very famous sanatorium
> > in the past. The Bellevue Klinik. There was an inhabitant that
> > you should know, Princess Alice of Greece:
> >
> > The Extraordinary Life Of Princess Alice
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwIpxNHVHpk
> >
> > Unfortunately the Klinik is now out of service, so you
> > cannot go there John Gabriel. Are you sure you have
> > Greek genes. Maybe a little Russian as well?
> >
> > Maybe you are a suicidal Raspuntin?
> > BTW: Also an interesting figure in Greek history:
> >
> > Olga Constantinovna of Russia
> > In February 1901, the translation of the New Testament
> > from Koine into Modern Greek that she had sponsored
> > was published without the authorization of the Greek Holy Synod.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Constantinovna_of_Russia
> >
> > LoL
> > Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 21:01:10 UTC+2:
> > > On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 14:57:20 UTC-4, Super crank Jan Burse scribbled:
> > > > I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
> > > > for all these people who obviously got carried away
> > > > and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible
> > > >
> > > > suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
> > > > needed psychological care, and might need
> > > > psychological care right now again.
> > > I think you need psychological care more than all of them combined. I can give you the care you need. Ha, ha.
> > >
> > > You moved to Kreuzlingen or somewhere nearby?
> > >
> > > What a birdbrain you are Burse! LMAO.
> > > >
> > > > John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
> > > > spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
> > > > some nonsense video about your misery etc.,
> > > >
> > > > just kill yourself because you staged your death,
> > > > and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
> > > > yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever
> > > >
> > > > here will be a stain from now on you.
> > > > Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 20:42:34 UTC+2:
> > > > > On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> > > > > > I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> > > > > > maintainer of this YT channel:
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> > > > > > name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I won't apologize.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> > > > > > to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> > > > > > I had to say about "New Calculus".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> > > > > > published on academia.edu had been removed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> > > > > > was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > > > > > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > > > > > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > > > > > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Farewell John.
> > > > >
> > > > > 😢😢😢😢😢😢
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
> > > > >
> > > > > What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
> > > > >
> > > > > The bad news is this:
> > > > > 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> > > > > 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> > > > > You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
> > > > >
> > > > > Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)
> My genes are all on public display here:
>
> https://youtu.be/dgZwaNIioS4
>
> Kreuzlingen is such a beautiful town. I suppose there is a lot of inbreeding there too from what I can tell? Aww. Shame.

Yes, I am related to Russian, Lithuanian, Ukranian and Eastern European Jews.


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