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On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 3:06:07 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Btw, do you know what dubois means? Of the woods.
> No, my little boy: of the wood.
> What do you know: no Dutch, no French, no anthropology...

We are long aware of your deficiencies in communicating in English, tolerance is important at SAP.
There is singular, and there is plural, explicit and implicit.
Of the wood = of the woods.
Of the forest = Homo.
Of the sea = mermaids.

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 04:11:53 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com"
<littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

>Op woensdag 15 juni 2022 om 10:39:07 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
>
>> >> Why do males grow beards?
>
>> >Don't you know?
>> >1987 Med Hypoth 24:293-9
>> >"The aquatic ape theory and some common diseases"
>
>> "so that the male's neck was streamlined for a swimming
>> life-style"
>
>:-) Good boy!
>
>> Then why only males?
>
>Ever heard of children?
>Menopauze = no children.

So?
What does that have to do with male facial hair?

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 by: littor...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Jun 2022 21:02 UTC

Op donderdag 16 juni 2022 om 15:47:24 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 04:11:53 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com"
> <littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Op woensdag 15 juni 2022 om 10:39:07 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
> >
> >> >> Why do males grow beards?
> >
> >> >Don't you know?
> >> >1987 Med Hypoth 24:293-9
> >> >"The aquatic ape theory and some common diseases"
> >
> >> "so that the male's neck was streamlined for a swimming
> >> life-style"
> >
> >:-) Good boy!
> >
> >> Then why only males?
> >
> >Ever heard of children?
> >Menopauze = no children.
> So?
> What does that have to do with male facial hair?

https://www.academia.edu/9566466/Marc_Verhaegen_1985_1995_Medical_Hypotheses_papers_on_AAT?email_work_card=title

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 by: Pandora - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:23 UTC

On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:02:49 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com"
<littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

>Op donderdag 16 juni 2022 om 15:47:24 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 04:11:53 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com"
>> <littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Op woensdag 15 juni 2022 om 10:39:07 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
>> >
>> >> >> Why do males grow beards?
>> >
>> >> >Don't you know?
>> >> >1987 Med Hypoth 24:293-9
>> >> >"The aquatic ape theory and some common diseases"
>> >
>> >> "so that the male's neck was streamlined for a swimming
>> >> life-style"
>> >
>> >:-) Good boy!
>> >
>> >> Then why only males?
>> >
>> >Ever heard of children?
>> >Menopauze = no children.
>> So?
>> What does that have to do with male facial hair?
>
>https://www.academia.edu/9566466/Marc_Verhaegen_1985_1995_Medical_Hypotheses_papers_on_AAT?email_work_card=title

That's a non-answer that doesn't point to any specifics.
If beards were for streamlining for a swimming life-style then they
would serve females as well.

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Op vrijdag 17 juni 2022 om 11:23:21 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
....

> >> >> >> Why do males grow beards?

> >> >> >Don't you know? 1987 Med Hypoth 24:293-9
> >> >> >"The aquatic ape theory and some common diseases"

> >> >> "so that the male's neck was streamlined for a swimming
> >> >> life-style"

> >> >:-) Good boy!

> >> >> Then why only males?

> >> >Ever heard of children?
> >> >Menopauze = no children.

> >> So? What does that have to do with male facial hair?

> >https://www.academia.edu/9566466/Marc_Verhaegen_1985_1995_Medical_Hypotheses_papers_on_AAT?email_work_card=title

> That's a non-answer that doesn't point to any specifics.

It's the best answer: inform before talking.

> If beards were for streamlining for a swimming life-style then they
> would serve females as well.

Again: fertile women have children.

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On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 02:26:59 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com"
<littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

>Op vrijdag 17 juni 2022 om 11:23:21 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
>...
>
>> >> >> >> Why do males grow beards?
>
>> >> >> >Don't you know? 1987 Med Hypoth 24:293-9
>> >> >> >"The aquatic ape theory and some common diseases"
>
>> >> >> "so that the male's neck was streamlined for a swimming
>> >> >> life-style"
>
>> >> >:-) Good boy!
>
>> >> >> Then why only males?
>
>> >> >Ever heard of children?
>> >> >Menopauze = no children.
>
>> >> So? What does that have to do with male facial hair?
>
>> >https://www.academia.edu/9566466/Marc_Verhaegen_1985_1995_Medical_Hypotheses_papers_on_AAT?email_work_card=title
>
>> That's a non-answer that doesn't point to any specifics.
>
>It's the best answer: inform before talking.
>
>> If beards were for streamlining for a swimming life-style then they
>> would serve females as well.
>
>Again: fertile women have children.

Fertile men too.

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Op vrijdag 17 juni 2022 om 11:34:16 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:

....
> >> >> >> >> Why do males grow beards?
> >> >> >> >Don't you know? 1987 Med Hypoth 24:293-9

> >> >> >> >"The aquatic ape theory and some common diseases"

> >> >> >> "so that the male's neck was streamlined for a swimming
> >> >> >> life-style"

> >> >> >:-) Good boy!

> >> >> >> Then why only males?

> >> >> >Ever heard of children? Menopauze = no children.

> >> >> So? What does that have to do with male facial hair?

> >> >https://www.academia.edu/9566466/Marc_Verhaegen_1985_1995_Medical_Hypotheses_papers_on_AAT?email_work_card=title

> >> That's a non-answer that doesn't point to any specifics.

> >It's the best answer: inform before talking.

> >> If beards were for streamlining for a swimming life-style then they
> >> would serve females as well.

> >Again: fertile women have children.

> Fertile men too.

Apparently you haven't informed yet: google
"verhaegen medical hypotheses".

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On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 5:27:01 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op vrijdag 17 juni 2022 om 11:23:21 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
> ...
> > >> >> >> Why do males grow beards?
>
> > >> >> >Don't you know? 1987 Med Hypoth 24:293-9
> > >> >> >"The aquatic ape theory and some common diseases"
>
> > >> >> "so that the male's neck was streamlined for a swimming
> > >> >> life-style"
>
> > >> >:-) Good boy!
>
> > >> >> Then why only males?
>
> > >> >Ever heard of children?
> > >> >Menopauze = no children.
>
> > >> So? What does that have to do with male facial hair?
>
> > >https://www.academia.edu/9566466/Marc_Verhaegen_1985_1995_Medical_Hypotheses_papers_on_AAT?email_work_card=title
>
> > That's a non-answer that doesn't point to any specifics.
> It's the best answer: inform before talking.

MV has no answer. Evasion is the best policy. But he forgot to yell "Kudus!"

> > If beards were for streamlining for a swimming life-style then they
> > would serve females as well.
> Again: fertile women have children.

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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 23:59 UTC

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 8:26:53 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op vrijdag 17 juni 2022 om 13:31:43 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
>
>
> > MV has no answer.
>
> Liar.

No answer, just a fantasy.

Titi monkeys have bushy beards, have small human-like canines, sleep in liana vine tangles (cf dome woven wicker huts) and are monogamous, and avoid open water.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/100812-new-species-monkey-science-amazon-bearded-pictures

Inform a bit. Google e.g.

Detours again, mere distractions.

> "Homo coastal dispersal Verhaegen",
> "WHAT talk Verhaegen".

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Op dinsdag 21 juni 2022 om 01:59:31 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

....

> > > MV has no answer.

> > Liar.

> No answer, just a fantasy.

:-DDD
Inform a bit. Google e.g.
"Homo coastal dispersal Verhaegen",
"WHAT talk Verhaegen".

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I Envy JTEM wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
>
>> <https://www.academia.edu/9566466/Marc_Verhaegen_1985_1995_Medical_Hypotheses_papers_on_AAT>
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>> "When the Moustier Neandertal was excavated (1908), the nostrils, which
>> could still be discerned then, were situated at the top instead of underneath
>> the nose as in H.sapiens(55)."
>
> You're not an "Elaborate" thinker, to borrow a term, so let me help you out a
> little here: What do you think might establish the validity of the claim?

Actual proof. They had cameras in 1908...

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"When the Moustier Neandertal was excavated (1908), the nostrils, which
could still be discerned then, were situated at the top instead of underneath
the nose as in H.sapiens(55)."

"In a Neandertal swimmingon his back, the large nose with distal nostrils and
the protruding midface surrounded by large air sinuses functioned as a
snorkel."

55. Moerman P. In het spoor van de Neanderthal-mens. Boekerij, Baarn, 1977

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