In message <sbhqpk$1lc7$1@gioia.aioe.org> paul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Fact for Steve's list: iOS backup of IPAs

the iOS IPA backup that you hae posted hundreds of times was
impossible?

You really are a fucking sad sock puppet.

--
This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2021-07-01, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote on 01.07.2021 03:58
>>>>
>>>> it's crossposted to iphone and android groups, by one of the trolls.
>>>
>>> Well yes, Arlen is forever trying to turn every other Apple newsgroup
>>> into the complete shit storm that is *.advocacy, because: troll.
>>
>> And yet, it proves beyond any doubt (for adults) that the iOS method
>> of backup (mandated by Apple MARKETING, by the way), is a royal
>> clusterfuck.
>
> Case in point. The fool can't help but out himself as a troll.

Android does seem to be doing backups that aren't possible with the iPhone.

Lewis wrote on 01.07.2021 06:42
> the iOS IPA backup that you hae posted hundreds of times was
> impossible?
>
> You really are a fucking sad sock puppet.

Adults notice it's always the _same_ dozen apologists who incessantly
brazenly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality that simple doesn't exist.
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf8ybgYB/apk01.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/vTdMwgnW/apk02.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/qBXHC7n5/apk03.jpg>

Why?
I don't know why.

I suspect apologists fabricate these excuses for the lack of basic iOS app
functionality simply because they _hate_ iOS IPA backup is dysfunctional.

Yet the conclusion remains:
*Steve needs to update his iOS:Android comparison to indicate these facts.*
--
Apologists are always fabricating excuses for lack of Apple functionality.
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

In article <sbkf27$1th$1@dont-email.me>, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Android does seem to be doing backups that aren't possible with the iPhone.

false.

nospam wrote on 01.07.2021 17:42
>> Android does seem to be doing backups that aren't possible with the iPhone.
>
> false.

You dozen Apple apologists incessantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality
(and yet you've _never_ provided the method to do that which you fabricate).

Never even once.

> what you claim is impossible is very easy for others to do.

*And yet, never have you _ever_ come up with your fabricated functionality.*

What irks me about you dozen apologists is you're all deceitful liars.
Worse, you send innocent users (like badgolferman) on wild goose chases.

All doomed to fail as you brazenly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality.

Why do you fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?
I don't know why.

I suspect you _hate_ that even the _simplest_ things are impossible on iOS.
Like backing up IPAs automatically on the device - all by itty bitty self.

Meanwhile Android does that (and more) with just a single simple switch:
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf8ybgYB/apk01.jpg>

Apologists literally _hate_ that iOS can't do what Android easily does.
So you brazenly fabricate functionality which even you know doesn't exist.

Like Senator McCarthy, apologists own no shame in excusing Apple's flaws.

But the facts remain for Steve to update his iOS:Android comparison to show
these facts that iOS IPA backup is a dysfunctional dystopian clusterfuck.

Yet, on Android... *it just works* ... (a single yes/no switch does it all)
--
Apologists own no shame in creating excuses for iOS lack of functionality.
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

In article <sbkp1k$1lc7$1@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

> Like backing up IPAs automatically on the device - all by itty bitty self.

that is not a backup.

that's an additional copy on the *same* device. if the device is lost
or stolen or simply stops working, you lose *everything*.

nospam wrote on 01.07.2021 18:25
>> Like backing up IPAs automatically on the device - all by itty bitty self.
>
> that is not a backup.
>
> that's an additional copy on the *same* device. if the device is lost
> or stolen or simply stops working, you lose *everything*.

Apple makes you believe the biggest threat to you is someone sneaking up
behind you to grab your precious iPhone out of your very hands, nospam.

Why is it that Frank Slootweg and I have installed the _same_ APKs which we
downloaded _years_ ago on devices we no longer even own, and yet we've been
able to install those APKs on _every_ Android phone we've ever owned since?

*Do you even realize this basic app portability is _impossible_ with iOS?*
--
Like Senator McCarthy, apologists own no shame in excusing Apple's flaws.
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

On 2021-07-01 12:00 p.m., paul wrote:
> nospam wrote on 01.07.2021 18:25
>>> Like backing up IPAs automatically on the device - all by itty bitty self.
>>
>> that is not a backup.
>>
>> that's an additional copy on the *same* device. if the device is lost
>> or stolen or simply stops working, you lose *everything*.
>
> Apple makes you believe the biggest threat to you is someone sneaking up
> behind you to grab your precious iPhone out of your very hands, nospam.

Address his point.

How is a copy of the install package, kept on the same device, any kind
of a backup?

>
> Why is it that Frank Slootweg and I have installed the _same_ APKs which we
> downloaded _years_ ago on devices we no longer even own, and yet we've been
> able to install those APKs on _every_ Android phone we've ever owned since?
>
> *Do you even realize this basic app portability is _impossible_ with iOS?*

In article <sbl3ba$ddk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

> >> Like backing up IPAs automatically on the device - all by itty bitty self.
> >
> > that is not a backup.
> >
> > that's an additional copy on the *same* device. if the device is lost
> > or stolen or simply stops working, you lose *everything*.
>
> Apple makes you believe the biggest threat to you is someone sneaking up
> behind you to grab your precious iPhone out of your very hands, nospam.

*whoosh*.

you are oblivious to the fact that a copy of an app on the same device
is not a backup.

> Why is it that Frank Slootweg and I have installed the _same_ APKs which we
> downloaded _years_ ago on devices we no longer even own, and yet we've been
> able to install those APKs on _every_ Android phone we've ever owned since?

only if you kept copies of those old apps, on separate storage, the
same as with ios.

> *Do you even realize this basic app portability is _impossible_ with iOS?*

i realize that you're full of shit, as does everyone else.

not only is it possible, but it's trivial to do.

*you* might not know how, just like you don't know how to do a lot of
things, but that's your own stupidity, not something about ios or
apple.

nospam wrote on 01.07.2021 21:22
>> *Do you even realize this basic app portability is _impossible_ with iOS?*
> not only is it possible, but it's trivial to do.
>
> *you* might not know how, just like you don't know how to do a lot of
> things, but that's your own stupidity, not something about ios or
> apple.

My APKs downloaded when on Android 4 for my Samsung Galaxy S3 are the _same_
APKs I just recently put on a handful of those free Android 11 Samsungs.

Why is it you apologists _never_ can explain how you do what we do every day
(like install apps downloaded on 1 phone onto every phone we've ever owned!)

*That's because something even _that_ simple is _impossible_ to do on iOS.*
--
Apologists _hate_ functionality even _that_ simple is impossible with iOS.
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

On 2021-07-01 13:13:50 +0000, Peter said:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2021-07-01, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote on 01.07.2021 03:58
>>>>>
>>>>> it's crossposted to iphone and android groups, by one of the trolls.
>>>>
>>>> Well yes, Arlen is forever trying to turn every other Apple newsgroup
>>>> into the complete shit storm that is *.advocacy, because: troll.
>>>
>>> And yet, it proves beyond any doubt (for adults) that the iOS method
>>> of backup (mandated by Apple MARKETING, by the way), is a royal
>>> clusterfuck.
>>
>> Case in point. The fool can't help but out himself as a troll.
>
> Android does seem to be doing backups that aren't possible with the iPhone.

Only because the anti-Apple idiot troll knows absolutely nothing about
iOS, Apple, nor anything else.

In article <sbl6in$1s0v$1@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

> >> *Do you even realize this basic app portability is _impossible_ with iOS?*
> > not only is it possible, but it's trivial to do.
> >
> > *you* might not know how, just like you don't know how to do a lot of
> > things, but that's your own stupidity, not something about ios or
> > apple.
>
> My APKs downloaded when on Android 4 for my Samsung Galaxy S3 are the _same_
> APKs I just recently put on a handful of those free Android 11 Samsungs.
>
> Why is it you apologists _never_ can explain how you do what we do every day
> (like install apps downloaded on 1 phone onto every phone we've ever owned!)

why is it you repeatedly ignore multiple explanations from multiple
people? is there another reason other than to further your ignorant
trolling?

not that an explanation is even needed since it's very straightforward.

> *That's because something even _that_ simple is _impossible_ to do on iOS.*

no, it's because you're incredibly stupid and obstinate.

Your Name wrote on 01.07.2021 22:33
>>>> And yet, it proves beyond any doubt (for adults) that the iOS method
>>>> of backup (mandated by Apple MARKETING, by the way), is a royal
>>>> clusterfuck.
>>>
>>> Case in point. The fool can't help but out himself as a troll.
>>
>> Android does seem to be doing backups that aren't possible with the iPhone.
>
> Only because the anti-Apple idiot troll knows absolutely nothing about
> iOS, Apple, nor anything else.

Adults will notice that _all_ the functionality claimed for Android exists

(1) Setting to _not_ delete the downloaded APK (automatic saving of APKs!):
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf8ybgYB/apk01.jpg>

(2) Intelligent filters (eliminate undesired features search results!):
<https://i.postimg.cc/vTdMwgnW/apk02.jpg>

(3) Persistent filters (no need to set custom filters on every search!):
<https://i.postimg.cc/VvF024NZ/apk03.jpg>

Yet apologists claim imaginary functionality for iOS that doesn't exist.
<notice not a single cite nor a single screenshot from the apologists>
--
What apologists hate is that something _that_ simple is impossible on iOS.
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

nospam wrote on 01.07.2021 23:03
> why is it you repeatedly ignore multiple explanations from multiple
> people?

Why do you apologists incessantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

> is there another reason other than to further your ignorant trolling?

Is there another reason other than your hatred that IPAs aren't portable?

>
> not that an explanation is even needed since it's very straightforward.

Not that an explanation of APK portability is needed since it's well known.

>> *That's because something even _that_ simple is _impossible_ to do on iOS.*
>
> no, it's because you're incredibly stupid and obstinate.

*And yet, something even _this_ incredibly simple, is _impossible_ on iOS.*
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf8ybgYB/apk01.jpg>
--
What apologists hate is that something _that_ simple is impossible on iOS.
Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.

On 2021-07-01 3:31 p.m., paul wrote:
> nospam wrote on 01.07.2021 23:03
>> why is it you repeatedly ignore multiple explanations from multiple
>> people?
>
> Why do you apologists incessantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?
> Alan Baker, Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger,
> Lewis, nospam, Rod Speed, Wade Garrett, Your Name, et al.
>
>> is there another reason other than to further your ignorant trolling?
>
> Is there another reason other than your hatred that IPAs aren't portable?
>
>>
>> not that an explanation is even needed since it's very straightforward.
>
> Not that an explanation of APK portability is needed since it's well known.
>
>>> *That's because something even _that_ simple is _impossible_ to do on iOS.*
>>
>> no, it's because you're incredibly stupid and obstinate.
>
> *And yet, something even _this_ incredibly simple, is _impossible_ on iOS.*
> <https://i.postimg.cc/zf8ybgYB/apk01.jpg>
>

Hilarious that you post a screenshot of an utterly stupid control.

The control says "Delete APK post-install" and the switch is OFF, right?

What does it say beneath?

"APKs will be deleted by default"

So...

....do you have to turn ON a control that says "Delete APK post-install"
in order to have the APKs NOT deleted?

On 6/30/21 9:15 AM, paul wrote:
> Fact for Steve's list: iOS backup of IPAs is a clusterfuck compared
> to the ease (and inherent power) of Android APK backup & restore.

Why would I want to "backup" India Pale Ales?

On 2021-07-02 03:36:06 +0000, Bob Campbell said:
> On 6/30/21 9:15 AM, paul wrote:
>>
>> Fact for Steve's list: iOS backup of IPAs is a clusterfuck compared
>> to the ease (and inherent power) of Android APK backup & restore.
>
> Why would I want to "backup" India Pale Ales?

It is better than drinking them I suppose. :-p

On 7/1/21 11:42 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-07-02 03:36:06 +0000, Bob Campbell said:
>> On 6/30/21 9:15 AM, paul wrote:
>>>
>>> Fact for Steve's list: iOS backup of IPAs is a clusterfuck compared
>>> to the ease (and inherent power) of Android APK backup & restore.
>>
>> Why would I want to "backup" India Pale Ales?
>
> It is better than drinking them I suppose.  :-p

LOL nice.

On 7/2/2021 7:20 PM, Bob Campbell wrote:
> On 7/1/21 11:42 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-07-02 03:36:06 +0000, Bob Campbell said:
>>> On 6/30/21 9:15 AM, paul wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fact for Steve's list: iOS backup of IPAs is a clusterfuck compared
>>>> to the ease (and inherent power) of Android APK backup & restore.
>>>
>>> Why would I want to "backup" India Pale Ales?
>>
>> It is better than drinking them I suppose.  :-p
>
> LOL nice.

I'd rather back up a pilsner or a lager.