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* How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Wally J
+* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Theo
|`* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inAndy Burns
| `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost inTweed
|  `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Postman Pat
|   `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Wally J
|    +- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inCarlos E.R.
|    `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inBrian Gregory
|     `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inCarlos E.R.
|      `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Wally J
|       `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Peter
|        `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inCarlos E.R.
|         `- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Theo
+* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Ant
|+- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe &Jolly Roger
|`* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Wally J
| `- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inAlan
+* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Dave Roya
|+* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inJeff Layman
||`* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inAlan Browne
|| `* Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Patrick
||  +- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inAlan
||  `- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inAlan Browne
|+* 3g Video Calls [Was: How much does unlimited everything typicallyCarlos E.R.
||`* Re: 3g Video Calls [Was: How much does unlimited everything typicallyDave Roya
|| `- Re: 3g Video Calls [Was: How much does unlimited everything typicallyCarlos E.R.
|`- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & in the UK?Frank Slootweg
`- Re: How much does unlimited everything typically cost in Europe & inJörg Lorenz

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 by: Peter - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:33 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote

>What I'd like to know is how they know you're hotspotting and/or tethering.

Many threads on this in the past. All over the internet.

Not sure what the consensus was...

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:54 UTC

On 2023-12-16 21:33, Peter wrote:
>
> Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
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>> What I'd like to know is how they know you're hotspotting and/or tethering.
>
> Many threads on this in the past. All over the internet.
>
> Not sure what the consensus was...

There will be two or more local IPs, if they can see that data.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Theo - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:27 UTC

In uk.telecom.mobile Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-12-16 21:33, Peter wrote:
> >
> > Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
> >
> >> What I'd like to know is how they know you're hotspotting and/or tethering.
> >
> > Many threads on this in the past. All over the internet.
> >
> > Not sure what the consensus was...
>
> There will be two or more local IPs, if they can see that data.

They can tell from the Time to Live on your packets: most OSes have a TTL of
64 or 128, so if they see a TTL of 63 or 127 then it indicates the packet
has already done one routing hop ie tethering. The solution to that is to
set the TTL of your laptop/etc to 65 or 129.

Also, iOS devices tell the carrier when tethering is enabled.
(at least they did in the early days, not sure if anything has changed)

Theo

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