On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every
>>>>> one
>>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
>>>>
>>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.

WTF does TINEOE stand for?

>> This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.
>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
>>  Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
>
> Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
> compromised by Putin.
>
> What did Biden do that actually hurt you?
>
> Was it the falling unemployment?
>
> The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?

As long as our President was genuinely unpredictable Putin minded his
own business. Having a loose cannon on your side is frequently a good
thing. In a pissing contest between our loose cannon and N. Korea's
loose cannon, guess who backs down.

--
Cheers, Bev
"I read about this syndrome called hypochondria in a
magazine. I think I've got it." -- DA

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
> > On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
> >> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
> >>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
> >>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
> >>>>> **every one else** wants him safely in jail where he can't cause
> >>>>> any more harm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard
> >>>> both candidates to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
> >>>>
>
> WTF does TINEOE stand for?
>

There Is No Every One Else, ~obviously.~ Furrfu, TYOT.

> >>
> >> This Is Not End Of Everything? Best I could come up with.

[...]

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 2024-04-04 18:59, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
>>>>>> every one
>>>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
>
> WTF does TINEOE stand for?
>
>>> This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.
>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater
>>> evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
>>
>> Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
>> compromised by Putin.
>>
>> What did Biden do that actually hurt you?
>>
>> Was it the falling unemployment?
>>
>> The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?
>
> As long as our President was genuinely unpredictable Putin minded his
> own business.  Having a loose cannon on your side is frequently a good
> thing.  In a pissing contest between our loose cannon and N. Korea's
> loose cannon, guess who backs down.
>

I notice how you shifted the comparison to North Korea suddenly.

And Trump was doing Putin's BIDDING, sunshine.

Putin meets with Trump.

Trump requests information on CIA assets around the world.

CIA assets start dying.

Do the math.

Tamborino, 2024-04-01 02:55:

> This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

RCS *is* end-to-end encrypted. But this is not mandatory, so using
unencrypted connections is possible. But the Google messaging app in
Android will show you if the recipient has RCS and also if the
connection is encrypted.

>
> Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption
> is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/
>
> So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
> Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
> users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

But this is not the fault of RCS.

--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

On 2024-04-05 05:42, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Tamborino, 2024-04-01 02:55:
>
>> This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
>> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.
>
> RCS *is* end-to-end encrypted. But this is not mandatory, so using
> unencrypted connections is possible. But the Google messaging app in
> Android will show you if the recipient has RCS and also if the
> connection is encrypted.
>

Incorrect.

RCS as implemented by Google has end-to-end encryption.

The RCS standard does not have encryption as a part of it.

>>
>> Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption
>> is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/
>>
>> So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
>> Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
>> users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.
>
> But this is not the fault of RCS.

It is actually.

Apple is not prepared to adopt Google's encryption, and given that
Google can't be trust with your privacy (Google Chrome sweeping up
information while in incognito mode, anyone?), can you blame Apple?

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/4/24 12:16 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
>
> WTF does TINEOE stand for?
>
>>> This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.
>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
>>>  Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
>>
>> Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
>> compromised by Putin.
>>
>> What did Biden do that actually hurt you?
>>
>> Was it the falling unemployment?
>>
>> The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?
>
> As long as our President was genuinely unpredictable Putin minded his
> own business. Having a loose cannon on your side is frequently a good
> thing. In a pissing contest between our loose cannon and N. Korea's
> loose cannon, guess who backs down.

International diplomacy is not a playground pissing contest.

Trump is inept and a laughing stock around the world. He brought america
down to his gutter standard.

His only interest is himself. The first time he ran was to make money - and
he did hundreds of millions (including from your taxes) - and this time
it's to keep himself out of jail. He doesn't care about you or anyone else
in the US.

Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
> Java Jive wrote:
>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.
>>
>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most civilised
>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>
> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.

The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
clear case of doing something wrong.

Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it
wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd just
be pretty street criminal.

>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,
>
> All politically-motivated persecutions.

Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their
own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". Hypocrites the
lot of them.

How people for that, I don't know.

> All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
> massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
> put up against the wall and shot.

Do you even hear yourself? Is that really the sort of america you want to
live in where there's no rule of law. People are targeted with violence
simply for stating the truth.

Oh and the election wasn't stolen. Trump is simply a 6 year old sore loser.

On 2024-04-07 06:44, Chris wrote:
> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>> Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.
>>>
>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most civilised
>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>>
>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>
> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
> clear case of doing something wrong.
>
> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it
> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd just
> be pretty street criminal.
>
>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,
>>
>> All politically-motivated persecutions.
>
> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their
> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". Hypocrites the
> lot of them.
>
> How people for that, I don't know.
>
>> All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
>> massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
>> put up against the wall and shot.
>
> Do you even hear yourself? Is that really the sort of america you want to
> live in where there's no rule of law. People are targeted with violence
> simply for stating the truth.
>
> Oh and the election wasn't stolen. Trump is simply a 6 year old sore loser.
>
>
>

6?

You give him far too much credit.

In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.

The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
that Trump was the one trying to steal the election. I'm surprised
that that has attracted so little attention.

David

On 2024-04-07, David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.
>
> The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
> that Trump was the one trying to steal the election. I'm surprised
> that that has attracted so little attention.

Every accusation is a confession with this dimwits.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

Chris wrote:
> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>> Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.
>>>
>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most civilised
>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>>
>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>
> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
> clear case of doing something wrong.

No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.

> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it
> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd just
> be pretty street criminal.
>
>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,
>>
>> All politically-motivated persecutions.
>
> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their
> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". Hypocrites the
> lot of them.
>
> How people for that, I don't know.

I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have politically-
motivated persecutions for made-up crimes, while Alvin Bragg refuses to
prosecute violent street criminals.

>> All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
>> massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
>> put up against the wall and shot.
>
> Do you even hear yourself? Is that really the sort of america you want to
> live in where there's no rule of law. People are targeted with violence
> simply for stating the truth.

Laws don't rule. Only men do.

David Higton wrote:
> In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.
>
> The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
> that

....they stopped counting in the middle of the night, threw out the
observers, and trucked in enough fraudulent ballots to swing the
election.

Alan wrote:
> On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
>>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
>>>>
>>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
>>
>> This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.
>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
>>   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
>
> Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely compromised by Putin.
>
> What did Biden do that actually hurt you?
>
> Was it the falling unemployment?
>
> The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?
>

United States GDP is fake and gay.

On 2024-04-09 23:13, Anonymous wrote:
> David Higton wrote:
>> In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
>>            Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.
>>
>> The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
>> that
>
> ...they stopped counting in the middle of the night, threw out the
> observers, and trucked in enough fraudulent ballots to swing the
> election.

And yet no evidence of that happening was EVER presented.

On 2024-04-09 23:11, Anonymous wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> > Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
> >> Java Jive wrote:
> >>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything
> wrong. Ever.
> >>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or
> business partner.
> >>>
> >>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil
> cases,
> >>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in most
> civilised
> >>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
> >>
> >> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
> >
> > The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case
> is a
> > clear case of doing something wrong.
>
> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>
> > Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it
> > wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd
> just
> > be pretty street criminal.
> >
> >>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,
> >>
> >> All politically-motivated persecutions.
> >
> > Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their
> > own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution".
> Hypocrites the
> > lot of them.
> >
> > How people for that, I don't know.
>
> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have politically-
> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes, while Alvin Bragg refuses to
> prosecute violent street criminals.

Stealing classified information is a "made-up crime"?

David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.
>
> The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
> that Trump was the one trying to steal the election. I'm surprised
> that that has attracted so little attention.

The 90-odd cases he tried to attack the result with - and lost - shows it
was a non-story. Due process worked as intended.

Then, he let his petulance get the better of himself and lead a riot to the
capitol.

Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.
>>>>
>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most civilised
>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>>>
>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>
>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>
> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.

And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong.

Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation aren't just
anything.

If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd rightly be
prosecuted. Why should it be any different for Trump?

>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it
>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd just
>> be pretty street criminal.
>>
>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,
>>>
>>> All politically-motivated persecutions.
>>
>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their
>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". Hypocrites the
>> lot of them.
>>
>> How people for that, I don't know.
>
> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have politically-
> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes,

Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The right were
desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as Trump. Again,
it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's not how fair
society works.

> while Alvin Bragg refuses to
> prosecute violent street criminals.
>
>>> All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
>>> massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
>>> put up against the wall and shot.
>>
>> Do you even hear yourself? Is that really the sort of america you want to
>> live in where there's no rule of law. People are targeted with violence
>> simply for stating the truth.
>
> Laws don't rule.

False.

> Only men do.

What about women? ;)

Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
> David Higton wrote:
>> In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.
>>
>> The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
>> that
>
> ...they stopped counting in the middle of the night,

As per their rules (in a few counties) laid down before the election began.
People are allowed to sleep.

> threw out the
> observers,

Because they were trying to interfere with the count. They were no longer
observers.

> and trucked in enough fraudulent ballots to swing the
> election.

Didn't happen.

In all cases of voter fraud two things were discovered 1) in no instance
was there enough to come close to affect any vote, 2) most of the
fraudulent ballots were in favour of GOP candidates.

On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
>>>>>> every one
>>>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
>>>
>>> This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.
>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater
>>> evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
>>
>> Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
>> compromised by Putin.
>>
>> What did Biden do that actually hurt you?
>>
>> Was it the falling unemployment?
>>
>> The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?
>>
>
> United States GDP is fake and gay.

Yes.

Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

On 2024-04-10 04:25, Chris wrote:
> David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>> In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.
>>
>> The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
>> that Trump was the one trying to steal the election. I'm surprised
>> that that has attracted so little attention.
>
> The 90-odd cases he tried to attack the result with - and lost - shows it
> was a non-story. Due process worked as intended.
>
> Then, he let his petulance get the better of himself and lead a riot to the
> capitol.
>

I wish it could be written off as simply petulance...

....but he had lots of co-conspirators who were in deadly earnest of
overthrowing the results.

On 2024-04-09 23:11, Anonymous wrote:
> > Do you even hear yourself? Is that really the sort of america you
> want to
> > live in where there's no rule of law. People are targeted with violence
> > simply for stating the truth.
>
> Laws don't rule. Only men do.

That's not what "rule of law" means, you simpleton.

Alan wrote:
> On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju, every one
>>>>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
>>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
>>>>
>>>> This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.
>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater evil.
>>>>   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
>>>
>>> Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely compromised by
>>> Putin.
>>>
>>> What did Biden do that actually hurt you?
>>>
>>> Was it the falling unemployment?
>>>
>>> The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?
>>>
>>
>> United States GDP is fake and gay.
>
> Yes.
>
> Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.

Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United
States can't? That's a tell right there.

Chris wrote:
> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>> David Higton wrote:
>>> In message <uuttdi$2o2ua$1@dont-email.me>
>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh and the election wasn't stolen.
>>>
>>> The reality, i.e. what was determined from the observable facts, was
>>> that
>>
>> ...they stopped counting in the middle of the night,
>
> As per their rules (in a few counties) laid down before the election began.
> People are allowed to sleep.

Only to resume counting a relatively short time later?

Furthermore, if you are counting mail-in votes (which should be
banned), you should be required to remain in that room until it's
DONE. No exceptions.

>> threw out the
>> observers,
>
> Because they were trying to interfere with the count.

No they weren't.

> They were no longer observers.

They were observers.

>> and trucked in enough fraudulent ballots to swing the
>> election.
>
> Didn't happen.

They had overwhelming motive and opportunity. Therefore, it is
reasonable to shift the burden of proof to those who claim the
election was clean.

> In all cases of voter fraud two things were discovered 1) in no instance
> was there enough to come close to affect any vote, 2) most of the
> fraudulent ballots were in favour of GOP candidates.

"Cases of voter fraud" as reported by the fake media, which simply
does not report cases of fraud in favor of Democrat candidates.

Chris wrote:
> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>> Chris wrote:
>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist - in most civilised
>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>>>>
>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>
>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>
>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>
> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong.

Not morally. The legal system very rarely has anything to do with
actual justice.

> Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation aren't just
> anything.
>
> If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd rightly be
> prosecuted.

Prosecuted under criminal statutes, not sued under civil.

> Why should it be any different for Trump?

Nobody is saying it should be.

>>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it
>>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd just
>>> be pretty street criminal.
>>>
>>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,
>>>>
>>>> All politically-motivated persecutions.
>>>
>>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their
>>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". Hypocrites the
>>> lot of them.
>>>
>>> How people for that, I don't know.
>>
>> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have politically-
>> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes,
>
> Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The right were
> desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as Trump. Again,
> it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's not how fair
> society works.

There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe
punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or
anything.

>> while Alvin Bragg refuses to
>> prosecute violent street criminals.
>>
>>>> All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
>>>> massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
>>>> put up against the wall and shot.
>>>
>>> Do you even hear yourself? Is that really the sort of america you want to
>>> live in where there's no rule of law. People are targeted with violence
>>> simply for stating the truth.
>>
>> Laws don't rule.
>
> False.

Not false. "Rule of law" is a political ideal, a fiction.

>> Only men do.
>
> What about women? ;)

Women shouldn't be in politics.

On 2024-04-10 23:28, Anonymous wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-09 23:14, Anonymous wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-04 09:44, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 4/4/24 9:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-04-03 18:51, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only the MAGA cult disciples feel 'sorry' for the Orange Juju,
>>>>>>>> every one
>>>>>>>> else wants him safely in jail where he can't cause any more harm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I'm impartial towards US politics as I regard both candidates
>>>>>>> to be unspeakable, TINEOE.
>>>>>
>>>>> This Is Not End Of Everything?  Best I could come up with.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump is better than Biden.  Period.  You vote against the greater
>>>>> evil.   Besides, did Trump actually hurt you when he was in?
>>>>
>>>> Trump is a lying, cheating, defrauding conman who is severely
>>>> compromised by Putin.
>>>>
>>>> What did Biden do that actually hurt you?
>>>>
>>>> Was it the falling unemployment?
>>>>
>>>> The GPD growth.. ...the record stock market... ...what?
>>>>
>>>
>>> United States GDP is fake and gay.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Every fact presented with which you disagree is fake.
>
> Why is Russia able to produce enough missiles and shells, and the United
> States can't? That's a tell right there.

And where do you get these supposed "facts"?

Where do you get that the US can't produce enough missiles OR shells?