That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
fittings. "It worked".

But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
want to make.
--
pyotr filipivich.
Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote
"It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged
boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

On 28/01/2022 01:24, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
> wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
> pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
> fittings. "It worked".
>
> But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
> a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
> that!").
> I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
> of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
> "round" and attached to one of the rollers?
> Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
> hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
> want to make.

I've seen flat plates with various patterns on them sold by jewellers
suppliers, you just put the metal you want to emboss through the mill as
a sandwich with the plates or plates.

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 5:24:25 PM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill...
> But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
> a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
> that!").
> I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
> of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
> "round" and attached to one of the rollers?

Make a negative of your pattern, apply photoresist to a roller, and
wrap the negative around it. Expose with UV light, remove negative and
develop (dissolve away) the unexposed bits, then etch the roller surface.

OK, you can probably just etch a sheet and wrap it around the roller. This
is how 'rotogravure' worked, putting those pictures into the paper of
all the bonnets in the Easter parade. But if you want it to emboss metal,
it has to be a sturdy sheet. Or, a steel roller.

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...

That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
fittings. "It worked".

But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
want to make.

---------------------

Maybe they know:
https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/

What do you think of this type?
https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...

I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?

-------------------------

Ask an Iraqi.
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/329090

David Billington <djb@invalid.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 01:49:18 +0000
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On 28/01/2022 01:24, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
>> wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
>> pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
>> fittings. "It worked".
>>
>> But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
>> a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
>> that!").
>> I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
>> of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
>> "round" and attached to one of the rollers?
>> Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
>> hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
>> want to make.
>
>I've seen flat plates with various patterns on them sold by jewellers
>suppliers, you just put the metal you want to emboss through the mill as
>a sandwich with the plates or plates.

After I posted the above, I went and searched on-line. Basically
it looks to me that either I could get a "spare" roller" and make the
pattern in that, _or_ make a pattern on a flat piece and roll it and
wire through the mill. The one video was showing how you could put a
subtle pattern on a plate using a paper towel for the "pattern".

I now have ideas.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> on Thu, 27 Jan 2022 18:51:21 -0800 (PST)
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 5:24:25 PM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill...
>> But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
>> a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
>> that!").
>> I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
>> of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
>> "round" and attached to one of the rollers?
>
>Make a negative of your pattern, apply photoresist to a roller, and
>wrap the negative around it. Expose with UV light, remove negative and
>develop (dissolve away) the unexposed bits, then etch the roller surface.

Whoo-hoo! Chemistry!
>
>OK, you can probably just etch a sheet and wrap it around the roller. This
>is how 'rotogravure' worked, putting those pictures into the paper of
>all the bonnets in the Easter parade. But if you want it to emboss metal,
>it has to be a sturdy sheet. Or, a steel roller.

Hmm, also an idea. Something for when I get old and have retired
again.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
>
>That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
>wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
>pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
>fittings. "It worked".
>
>But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
>a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
>that!").
>I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
>of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
>"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
>Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
>hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
>want to make.
>
>---------------------
>
>Maybe they know:
>https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/

Oooh, neato. Will have to bookmark that one.
>
>What do you think of this type?
>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC

It looks better than the one I have. "Maybe."
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:16:36
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
>
>I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
>of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
>"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
>
>-------------------------
>
>Ask an Iraqi.
>https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/329090

More coolness. What inspired me is a box with brass strips,
"circle, dot, triangle, dot, circle, square, circle, (, )" then
reverse. "I can do this" says I.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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----------------------

The solid-ink color printer I helped develop in the 1980's could make offset
printing plates by depositing the ink on a thin sheet of aluminum. In
experiments it could create 3D shapes such as Braille dots out of the ink,
which inspired one of the engineers to create a 3D printer. Maybe for short
production runs you could 3D print a lost-wax (or lost plastic) pattern to
cast in bronze or Kirksite.

I'm too close to the monthly data cap to look for references for you.

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:03:41
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>news:0inbvgh3qgv3varangovng1ka4ufps7ml5@4ax.com...
>
>----------------------
>
>The solid-ink color printer I helped develop in the 1980's could make offset
>printing plates by depositing the ink on a thin sheet of aluminum. In
>experiments it could create 3D shapes such as Braille dots out of the ink,
>which inspired one of the engineers to create a 3D printer. Maybe for short
>production runs you could 3D print a lost-wax (or lost plastic) pattern to
>cast in bronze or Kirksite.
>
>I'm too close to the monthly data cap to look for references for you.

Thanks, but that's enough of a pointer to ideas, I can follow it
up on my own from there.

--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 14:49:44 -0500
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
>>-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>>>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
>>>wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
>>>pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
>>>fittings. "It worked".
>>>
>>>But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
>>>a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
>>>that!").
>>>I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
>>>of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
>>>"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
>>>Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
>>>hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
>>>want to make.
>>>
>>>---------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe they know:
>>>https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/
>>
>> Oooh, neato. Will have to bookmark that one.
>>>
>>>What do you think of this type?
>>>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC
>>
>> It looks better than the one I have. "Maybe."
>
>I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.

Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
change.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

"Joe Gwinn" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
>-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

>>What do you think of this type?
>>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC

I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.

Joe Gwinn

-------------------------

I use Amazon for reference when their URL is short, as an example of the
type of item.

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 14:49:44 -0500
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
>>-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>>>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
>>>wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
>>>pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
>>>fittings. "It worked".
>>>
>>>But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
>>>a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
>>>that!").
>>>I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
>>>of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
>>>"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
>>>Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
>>>hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
>>>want to make.
>>>
>>>---------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe they know:
>>>https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/
>>
>> Oooh, neato. Will have to bookmark that one.
>>>
>>>What do you think of this type?
>>>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC
>>
>> It looks better than the one I have. "Maybe."
>
>I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.

Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
change.

-----------------------------

Is that similar to yours? I'm thinking about buying one, not suggesting that
you change.

On 31/01/2022 12:02, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Joe Gwinn"  wrote in message
> news:itqdvgd6u1dk35vogsr34gsjg4al4pnjbh@4ax.com...
>
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
> <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
>> -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking  the following:
>
>>> What do you think of this type?
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC
>>>
>
> I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.
>
> Joe Gwinn
>
> -------------------------
>
> I use Amazon for reference when their URL is short, as an example of
> the type of item.
>
I read the Amazon reviews for fun and Harbor Freight was mentioned as
selling those also, a quick search turned up this Ganoksin thread about
them
https://orchid.ganoksin.com/t/harbor-freight-mini-rolling-mill-for-190/24608/3
.. The last posting confirmed my thoughts from when I looked at the
broken part image posted in the Amazon review, likely hardened and not
tempered, maybe an easy fix with an appropriate tempering. Maybe it's
telling that Harbor Freight don't seem to sell rolling mills anymore.

On 30/01/2022 12:03, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "pyotr filipivich"  wrote in message
> news:0inbvgh3qgv3varangovng1ka4ufps7ml5@4ax.com...
>
> ----------------------
>
> The solid-ink color printer I helped develop in the 1980's could make
> offset printing plates by depositing the ink on a thin sheet of
> aluminum. In experiments it could create 3D shapes such as Braille
> dots out of the ink, which inspired one of the engineers to create a
> 3D printer. Maybe for short production runs you could 3D print a
> lost-wax (or lost plastic) pattern to cast in bronze or Kirksite.
>
> I'm too close to the monthly data cap to look for references for you.
>
A mate was telling me his ISP contacted him to say they were going to
put up the charges due to increased usage in the UK due to lock down and
working from home, he told them he was thinking of leaving and getting
another ISP, they then bent over backwards to keep him and he ended up
with faster speed, a higher download cap, and lower charges  so he
stayed with them for the time being. IIRC you're in NH so maybe you
don't have the option of going elsewhere currently. I'm waiting for full
fibre, I could get it here now but apparently BT are planning to get
fibre to every house in the country by 2025 and switch to VOIP for all
so I can wait. Maybe a benefit of living in a small country.

I got contacted by my ISP to say they were removing the usage cap for
the same reasons, it hasn't changed my usage habits. Not that many years
ago I downgraded my package from IIRC 300Gb to 30Gb a month as my usage
level was at about 0.5%, after the change I would occasionally get a
usage warning of 50% or if I watched some catch-up programs 75% in the
last day or so of the month so my usage matched what I was paying for
pretty well.

"David Billington" wrote in message news:st90fe$2us$1@dont-email.me...

On 30/01/2022 12:03, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
> news:0inbvgh3qgv3varangovng1ka4ufps7ml5@4ax.com...
>
> ----------------------
>
> The solid-ink color printer I helped develop in the 1980's could make
> offset printing plates by depositing the ink on a thin sheet of aluminum.
> In experiments it could create 3D shapes such as Braille dots out of the
> ink, which inspired one of the engineers to create a 3D printer. Maybe for
> short production runs you could 3D print a lost-wax (or lost plastic)
> pattern to cast in bronze or Kirksite.
>
> I'm too close to the monthly data cap to look for references for you.
>
A mate was telling me his ISP contacted him to say they were going to
put up the charges due to increased usage in the UK due to lock down and
working from home, he told them he was thinking of leaving and getting
another ISP, they then bent over backwards to keep him and he ended up
with faster speed, a higher download cap, and lower charges so he
stayed with them for the time being. IIRC you're in NH so maybe you
don't have the option of going elsewhere currently. I'm waiting for full
fibre, I could get it here now but apparently BT are planning to get
fibre to every house in the country by 2025 and switch to VOIP for all
so I can wait. Maybe a benefit of living in a small country.

I got contacted by my ISP to say they were removing the usage cap for
the same reasons, it hasn't changed my usage habits. Not that many years
ago I downgraded my package from IIRC 300Gb to 30Gb a month as my usage
level was at about 0.5%, after the change I would occasionally get a
usage warning of 50% or if I watched some catch-up programs 75% in the
last day or so of the month so my usage matched what I was paying for
pretty well.

---------------------------

I don't have cable TV and the lowest cost Internet options here are
cellular, with data caps. On Feb 1 the one I'm using is supposed to switch
from the old monthly cap of 3GB to 30GB of data plus unlimited calling and
text, for $35 a month, due to the conversion of 2G and 3G frequency bands to
5G and improved 4G LTE, and the reallocation of the former UHF TV bands
above 600MHz to expand cellular phone and Internet.

When I was on a $5/GB introductory plan I found that I could manage on 2GB
and had no use for more than 4. The extra GB this month went to setting up
and learning to use the iPhone 6s my sister gave me for Christmas, to
replace my old cellular hotspot.

I wrote a spreadsheet that reports how far ahead or behind I am each day, so
I know when to conserve.

Just heard on local TV:
There are cheap people, there are cheapskate people, and then there are
Yankees! (old New Englanders)

So I must be a Yankee. I recently rigged up my chest freezer to use all
available solar energy before drawing from the power grid or backup battery.
The Kill-A-Watt EZ meter on it estimates the operating cost at $1.34 per
month. We are just reaching the season when a full day's sun can recharge
the battery after running on it overnight. Although the sun is low the
clearer sky and cold panel temperature keep output nearly as high as in
summer.
jsw

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:st98ul$6e5$1@dont-email.me...
wrote:
I don't have cable TV and the lowest cost Internet options here are
cellular, with data caps. On Feb 1 the one I'm using is supposed to switch
from the old monthly cap of 3GB to 30GB of data plus unlimited calling and
text, for $35 a month, ...

----------------

An unexplained download of 55MB pushed me to 3GB, where the service reverts
to "unlimited" 2G that's slower than dialup. AFAIK all program updating is
set to manual.

I had Process Explorer's I/O monitor on to view a graph of net traffic but
was too busy writing and editing to notice that the response window covered
it. What has anyone used to log WiFi/WLAN traffic?

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...

Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
change.

-----------------------

What do you have?

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 07:04:15
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...
>
>Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 14:49:44 -0500
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
>><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
>>>-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>>>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>>>>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
>>>>wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
>>>>pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
>>>>fittings. "It worked".
>>>>
>>>>But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
>>>>a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
>>>>that!").
>>>>I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
>>>>of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
>>>>"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
>>>>Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
>>>>hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
>>>>want to make.
>>>>
>>>>---------------------
>>>>
>>>>Maybe they know:
>>>>https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/
>>>
>>> Oooh, neato. Will have to bookmark that one.
>>>>
>>>>What do you think of this type?
>>>>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC
>>>
>>> It looks better than the one I have. "Maybe."
>>
>>I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.
>
>Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
>change.
>
>-----------------------------
>
>Is that similar to yours? I'm thinking about buying one, not suggesting that
>you change.

I don't think so. Mine is an off brand of some sort.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:58:53
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...
>
>Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
>change.
>
>-----------------------
>
>What do you have?

"a rusty one" - I do not know, it has been a while since I had it
out for a look see. Was a "here, take this thing" kind of deal.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:58:53
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
>news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...
>
>Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
>change.
>
>-----------------------
>
>What do you have?

"a rusty one" - I do not know, it has been a while since I had it
out for a look see. Was a "here, take this thing" kind of deal.
------------------

Most of my shop is like that, but I can look up specs and read reviews of
only new, recent or common machines. My question is how useful a jewelry,
ring or tubing roller would be, and how easily modified with custom rolls.
For example, would the jewelry roller flatten copper waterpipe etc well
enough to use as a TO-220 heatsink? So far I've managed with an HF Compact
Bender and conduit benders.

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Tue, 1 Feb 2022 06:57:28 -0500
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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>"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:58:53
>-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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>>Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
>>change.
>>
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>>What do you have?
>
>"a rusty one" - I do not know, it has been a while since I had it
>out for a look see. Was a "here, take this thing" kind of deal.
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>
>Most of my shop is like that, but I can look up specs and read reviews of
>only new, recent or common machines. My question is how useful a jewelry,
>ring or tubing roller would be, and how easily modified with custom rolls.
>For example, would the jewelry roller flatten copper waterpipe etc well
>enough to use as a TO-220 heatsink? So far I've managed with an HF Compact
>Bender and conduit benders.

I'm not sure if this one will. However, I had access to a "small"
one a bunch of years ago, and it would convert copper water pipe into
copper strip. Just have to take it slow, and not try to force too
much "squish" on it at once.
That's how I bent the handle on this one. Oops.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:58:10 AM UTC-8, Jim Wilkins wrote:

> ... My question is how useful a jewelry,
> ring or tubing roller would be, and how easily modified with custom rolls.
> For example, would the jewelry roller flatten copper waterpipe etc well
> enough to use as a TO-220 heatsink? So far I've managed with an HF Compact
> Bender and conduit benders.

Oh, yeah; I've cold-rolled chrome-nickel alloys down with a hand roll, the design plan is sound.
Steel rollers, though, need some alloy selection and heat treatment to work well, and
don't ship internationally without high per-ounce penalty. Buy domestic.

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> on Wed, 2 Feb 2022 17:28:37 -0800 (PST)
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:58:10 AM UTC-8, Jim Wilkins wrote:
>
>> ... My question is how useful a jewelry,
>> ring or tubing roller would be, and how easily modified with custom rolls.
>> For example, would the jewelry roller flatten copper waterpipe etc well
>> enough to use as a TO-220 heatsink? So far I've managed with an HF Compact
>> Bender and conduit benders.
>
>Oh, yeah; I've cold-rolled chrome-nickel alloys down with a hand roll, the design plan is sound.
>Steel rollers, though, need some alloy selection and heat treatment to work well,

That is what I figured would be my "issue" with making my own. One
more thing to add to The List.

> and don't ship internationally without high per-ounce penalty. Buy domestic.
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pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."