On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 9:50:33 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:44:53 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 12:52:08 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > > Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMjECeE3WEA_RiE3_iv9QsaAScXtg3MY2UPJzju
> > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPJRgdNvAHqNle1zGMACrRIlnw_TY10U3XX4KC5
> > > >>> 404. That’s an error.
> > > >>> The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> > > >
> > > >> What's it to you anyway?
> > > >
> > > > 1. It demonstrates that you don't verify the URL's you post are
> > > > functional.
> > > > 2. If verifies that you don't know how to use Google Photos. However,
> > > > that's not a problem because you're still learning.
> > > > 3. It's a courtesy notification that you've made a mistake that
> > > > should be corrected if you want people to see your photos.
> > > > 4. It provides you for the attention that you crave.
> > > > 5. It demonstrates that at least 2 people (Frank and I) read your
> > > > postings.
> > > > 6. It provides you with something new to complain about.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > In Tom’s defence, I’m sure the URLs would work fine if you were logged onto
> > > Google Photos as Tom Kunich. Posting pictures to non-binary newsgroups IS
> > > a pain in the ass.
> > Damned if I can figure out how to post those pictures correctly. It took me an hour to get that one picture of my membership card to post and I notice that the people that are complaining never post any pictures themselves.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/vHbBL8XyPafCGr5F8
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/gYZdmNhRGcMhXBBU7
>
> Let's see if that works.
>
Works fine. The Five Thuggish Monkeys just can't stop nitpicking someone, anyone, to relieve their well-earned frustration with their pointless lives. . -- AJ

On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 9:44:53 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 12:52:08 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMjECeE3WEA_RiE3_iv9QsaAScXtg3MY2UPJzju
> > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPJRgdNvAHqNle1zGMACrRIlnw_TY10U3XX4KC5
> > >>> 404. That’s an error.
> > >>> The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> > >
> > >> What's it to you anyway?
> > >
> > > 1. It demonstrates that you don't verify the URL's you post are
> > > functional.
> > > 2. If verifies that you don't know how to use Google Photos. However,
> > > that's not a problem because you're still learning.
> > > 3. It's a courtesy notification that you've made a mistake that
> > > should be corrected if you want people to see your photos.
> > > 4. It provides you for the attention that you crave.
> > > 5. It demonstrates that at least 2 people (Frank and I) read your
> > > postings.
> > > 6. It provides you with something new to complain about.
> > >
> > >
> > In Tom’s defence, I’m sure the URLs would work fine if you were logged onto
> > Google Photos as Tom Kunich. Posting pictures to non-binary newsgroups IS
> > a pain in the ass.
> Damned if I can figure out how to post those pictures correctly. It took me an hour to get that one picture of my membership card to post and I notice that the people that are complaining never post any pictures themselves.
>
They probably fear that the rest of us will pay them out in their own coin for all the sewerage from their wretched souls they pour into RBT.
>
The problem with Google-anything is that they try to hang onto you. I clicked the back button six times but Google insisted I should sign in. In the end I just closed the page and used the History in Safari to being me bak to the page in RBT.
>
Andre Jute
The Google directors should all be in jail for trying to steal all the literary copyrights not just in America but in the world.
>

On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:48:24 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 7/6/2022 3:52 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMjECeE3WEA_RiE3_iv9QsaAScXtg3MY2UPJzju
> >>>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPJRgdNvAHqNle1zGMACrRIlnw_TY10U3XX4KC5
> >>>> 404. That’s an error.
> >>>> The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> >>
> >>> What's it to you anyway?
> >>
> >> 1. It demonstrates that you don't verify the URL's you post are
> >> functional.
> >> 2. If verifies that you don't know how to use Google Photos. However,
> >> that's not a problem because you're still learning.
> >> 3. It's a courtesy notification that you've made a mistake that
> >> should be corrected if you want people to see your photos.
> >> 4. It provides you for the attention that you crave.
> >> 5. It demonstrates that at least 2 people (Frank and I) read your
> >> postings.
> >> 6. It provides you with something new to complain about.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > In Tom’s defence, I’m sure the URLs would work fine if you were logged onto
> > Google Photos as Tom Kunich.
> And Tom would have known that, if only he were competent with internet
> matters.
> > Posting pictures to non-binary newsgroups IS
> > a pain in the ass.
> And yet SO many people here have managed to succeed! If only one person
> regularly fails, what does that tell you about his intelligence and
> competence?
>
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
>
How petty can you get, Franki-boy?
>
Unsigned out of contempt.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:34 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 2:07:26 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 7/3/2022 6:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:05:24 p.m. UTC-4, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
> > > Snipped
> > >> Most of the bike lanes and bike paths I notice on our tours are a curse,
> > >> not a blessing. We prefer real roads. Like this one, for example.
> > > Snipped
> > >
> > > Here in Ontario, Canada the majority of bicycle lanes are Door-Zone lanes. Then there are others that go part way onto the on-ramps for major highways and are a real hazard to any bicyclist foolish enough to ride in it. I take the through lane of traffic not a right hand turning lane or on-ramp lane.
> > >
> > > Sometimes I think that bicycle lane planners are out to kill bicyclists. Why else would such dangerous designs be allowed and built?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > +1
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >
> +1
> >
> My favourite example is a bicycle lane that just ends between two lanes of cars (plus a further buslane before gaining the safety of the wide sidewalk) at lights on a six lane highway, which immediately beyond the lights becomes a two-way highway. Fortunately for these prospective organ-donors, there's a huge full-service regional hospital to one side of the road and a huge mall to the other side where, if they make it alive out of the maelstrom of car and trucks and buses, they can buy calming chemicals... If these unfortunate cyclists live in the suburbs on the two-lane side of the lights, or study in the technical college a couple of miles down the two-lane side, bad luck. It's known as Organ Donor Drive among the junior medical staff. To rub it in, when a cyclist makes it to the front door of the hospital, the first thing he sees is a poster advertising for organ donations. -- AJ
My favorite screw up is a bike lane that ends going into a tunnel on a fairly busy road in South San Francisco. When you cone out the other end you are in the left lanes of a freeway exit. If you're watching the traffic approaching the tunnel you miss the bicycle turn here sign which takes you in a LONG misdirection to avoid this. If you end up in the left lanes leaving the tunnel you have to hope that there is a wide enough opening to cross four lanes to get across to the bike lane.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:18:45 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 9:50:33 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:44:53 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 12:52:08 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > > > Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > > >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMjECeE3WEA_RiE3_iv9QsaAScXtg3MY2UPJzju
> > > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPJRgdNvAHqNle1zGMACrRIlnw_TY10U3XX4KC5
> > > > >>> 404. That’s an error.
> > > > >>> The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> > > > >
> > > > >> What's it to you anyway?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. It demonstrates that you don't verify the URL's you post are
> > > > > functional.
> > > > > 2. If verifies that you don't know how to use Google Photos. However,
> > > > > that's not a problem because you're still learning.
> > > > > 3. It's a courtesy notification that you've made a mistake that
> > > > > should be corrected if you want people to see your photos.
> > > > > 4. It provides you for the attention that you crave.
> > > > > 5. It demonstrates that at least 2 people (Frank and I) read your
> > > > > postings.
> > > > > 6. It provides you with something new to complain about.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > In Tom’s defence, I’m sure the URLs would work fine if you were logged onto
> > > > Google Photos as Tom Kunich. Posting pictures to non-binary newsgroups IS
> > > > a pain in the ass.
> > > Damned if I can figure out how to post those pictures correctly. It took me an hour to get that one picture of my membership card to post and I notice that the people that are complaining never post any pictures themselves.
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/vHbBL8XyPafCGr5F8
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/gYZdmNhRGcMhXBBU7
> >
> > Let's see if that works.
> >
> Works fine. The Five Thuggish Monkeys just can't stop nitpicking someone, anyone, to relieve their well-earned frustration with their pointless lives. . -- AJ

Flunky used to talk about racing and Russell used to invent stuff he had after I mentioned it. But it was always the wrong stuff. The 10 speed Di2 was so bad that I believe that it was gone after just one year. And there was no replacements for any of it. A heavy carbon fiber bike sort of loses the only advantage of a carbon fiber bike but retains all of the disadvantages of voids that cause failures. Frank used old steel bikes. Nothing wrong with that but you don't pretend that the problems with other materials somehow makes steel better. After all I am presently building a steel bike that appears like it will come in within a lb of the carbon fiber bikes I had. John and Lieberman are not cyclists and post here for no other reason than to argue. What in the hell is Scharf? Does he think he is garnering votes here?

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 11:08:31 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:18:45 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 9:50:33 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:44:53 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 12:52:08 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > > > > Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > > > >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMjECeE3WEA_RiE3_iv9QsaAScXtg3MY2UPJzju
> > > > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPJRgdNvAHqNle1zGMACrRIlnw_TY10U3XX4KC5
> > > > > >>> 404. That’s an error.
> > > > > >>> The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> What's it to you anyway?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. It demonstrates that you don't verify the URL's you post are
> > > > > > functional.
> > > > > > 2. If verifies that you don't know how to use Google Photos. However,
> > > > > > that's not a problem because you're still learning.
> > > > > > 3. It's a courtesy notification that you've made a mistake that
> > > > > > should be corrected if you want people to see your photos.
> > > > > > 4. It provides you for the attention that you crave.
> > > > > > 5. It demonstrates that at least 2 people (Frank and I) read your
> > > > > > postings.
> > > > > > 6. It provides you with something new to complain about.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > In Tom’s defence, I’m sure the URLs would work fine if you were logged onto
> > > > > Google Photos as Tom Kunich. Posting pictures to non-binary newsgroups IS
> > > > > a pain in the ass.
> > > > Damned if I can figure out how to post those pictures correctly. It took me an hour to get that one picture of my membership card to post and I notice that the people that are complaining never post any pictures themselves.
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/vHbBL8XyPafCGr5F8
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/gYZdmNhRGcMhXBBU7
> > >
> > > Let's see if that works.
> > >
> > Works fine. The Five Thuggish Monkeys just can't stop nitpicking someone, anyone, to relieve their well-earned frustration with their pointless lives. . -- AJ
> Flunky used to talk about racing and Russell used to invent stuff he had after I mentioned it.

Tommy, you will have to tell me what I invented. Not surprisingly, I don't ever recall saying I invented anything on this forum. So please tell me what I invented. I'd like to know.

> But it was always the wrong stuff. The 10 speed Di2 was so bad that I believe that it was gone after just one year.

Shimano 7970 Di2, the first Di2, lasted about 2 years. Maybe three. Shimano introduced it just before rolling out 11 speed cassettes and shifters. If they had invented it at the very beginning of ten speed gearing, then it would have been around for about a decade. Shimano's last mechanical ten speed group, 7900, was also only around for a few years. It came out just before the switch to eleven speed. So no matter how great it was, it was not going to be around long. Its kind of like the last 26" mountain bikes. It doesn't matter that they may have been the best of the best of the best when they were introduced. Everyone wanted 29" bikes then. So the last great 26" mountain bikes were just thrown onto the scrap pile. Didn't matter if they were great or not. They were out of date already.

As for Shimano 7970 Di2, I of course own and use it on one bike. It has always performed perfectly since day one. Can't get any better than it. Perfection times ten times ten times ten. Tommy, please elucidate us with your tales of using Shimano 7970. If you have used it that is.

> And there was no replacements for any of it.

What is the point of replacing it if it works perfectly and never breaks? Now I understand the theory behind warranties and replacement parts. But I figure its better to start with quality and then you don't have to worry about replacing it under warranty. My family has owned several Toyota cars. They came with some kind of warranty. But who cares if the car runs forever and never breaks down. Use your brain Tommy. Get perfection originally and then you don't have to fret and worry about replacement. Educated people know these things.

> A heavy carbon fiber bike sort of loses the only advantage of a carbon fiber bike but retains all of the disadvantages of voids that cause failures. Frank used old steel bikes. Nothing wrong with that but you don't pretend that the problems with other materials somehow makes steel better. After all I am presently building a steel bike that appears like it will come in within a lb of the carbon fiber bikes I had. John and Lieberman are not cyclists and post here for no other reason than to argue. What in the hell is Scharf? Does he think he is garnering votes here?

On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 17:20:09 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 11:08:31 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:18:45 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 9:50:33 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:44:53 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 12:52:08 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>> > > > > Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> > > > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > >>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> > > > > >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMjECeE3WEA_RiE3_iv9QsaAScXtg3MY2UPJzju
>> > > > > >>>> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPJRgdNvAHqNle1zGMACrRIlnw_TY10U3XX4KC5
>> > > > > >>> 404. That’s an error.
>> > > > > >>> The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> What's it to you anyway?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1. It demonstrates that you don't verify the URL's you post are
>> > > > > > functional.
>> > > > > > 2. If verifies that you don't know how to use Google Photos. However,
>> > > > > > that's not a problem because you're still learning.
>> > > > > > 3. It's a courtesy notification that you've made a mistake that
>> > > > > > should be corrected if you want people to see your photos.
>> > > > > > 4. It provides you for the attention that you crave.
>> > > > > > 5. It demonstrates that at least 2 people (Frank and I) read your
>> > > > > > postings.
>> > > > > > 6. It provides you with something new to complain about.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > In Tom’s defence, I’m sure the URLs would work fine if you were logged onto
>> > > > > Google Photos as Tom Kunich. Posting pictures to non-binary newsgroups IS
>> > > > > a pain in the ass.
>> > > > Damned if I can figure out how to post those pictures correctly. It took me an hour to get that one picture of my membership card to post and I notice that the people that are complaining never post any pictures themselves.
>> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/vHbBL8XyPafCGr5F8
>> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/gYZdmNhRGcMhXBBU7
>> > >
>> > > Let's see if that works.
>> > >
>> > Works fine. The Five Thuggish Monkeys just can't stop nitpicking someone, anyone, to relieve their well-earned frustration with their pointless lives. . -- AJ
>> Flunky used to talk about racing and Russell used to invent stuff he had after I mentioned it.
>
>Tommy, you will have to tell me what I invented. Not surprisingly, I don't ever recall saying I invented anything on this forum. So please tell me what I invented. I'd like to know.
>
But, but, but... You must have invented "it". After all... you didn't
agree with Tommy and therefore you must have been wrong...(:-( Right?

As F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote in 1925 in "The Great Gatsby":
"He had an endless fund of tales, of which he was always the hero and
evidence disregard for the truth that these demonstrated made all his
facts and information suspect."
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 8:20:11 PM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> Its kind of like the last 26" mountain bikes. It doesn't matter that they may have been the best of the best of the best when they were introduced. Everyone wanted 29" bikes then. So the last great 26" mountain bikes were just thrown onto the scrap pile. Didn't matter if they were great or not. They were out of date already.

Ah, fashion! It's weird and powerful!

- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 21:04:41 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 8:20:11 PM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Its kind of like the last 26" mountain bikes. It doesn't matter that they may have been the best of the best of the best when they were introduced. Everyone wanted 29" bikes then. So the last great 26" mountain bikes were just thrown onto the scrap pile. Didn't matter if they were great or not. They were out of date already.
>
>Ah, fashion! It's weird and powerful!
>
>- Frank Krygowski

Well, the very first "mountain Bikes" were just single speed, coaster
brake, bikes with big fat 2 inch? tires. They were originally called
"clunkers" but when Joe Breezer built some ten brand new "clunkers" he
didn't thing that was an appropriate name so he called them "Mountain
Bikes". Five speed, 26 inch wheels (:-)

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1419571

--
Cheers,

John B.

funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:40:32 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:35:58 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> Strava is one of those put up or shut up anyone can see what you ride if you allow.
>
>> I don't remember a lot about it. I got sick of it really fast when I
>> would post a route and time and some 24 year old would post that he did
>> the same route 2 minutes faster. Uh, He could have kept that to himself
>> don't you think? 24 years old and only 2 minutes faster than a (at the
>> time) 70 year old makes you look sort of foolish doesn't it? And then
>> that would start this competition over who could do it faster. So I just stopped.
>
> Strava does not now, nor has it ever, worked that way, you fucking idiot.
> The only time you would ever be notified when another rider posts a
> faster time is if you had a KOM or CR and someone beats it. At your age
> and fitness level, the only way that would have happened was if you were
> the first person to ever ride a certain section of road and then create a
> segment based on it. There is no way in hell you ever had a KOM for any
> preexisting segments. Besides that, one of the principle points of strava
> is that it "would start this competition over who could do it faster. "-
> It's specifically meant for virtual competitions. Some people do in fact
> use strava as a simple fitness tracking tool, but the vast majority use
> it to gauge their performance against others.
>
>
>
Indeed I mostly use it for social, and mapping. The performance stuff is
much less so!

Roger Merriman.

On 7/20/2022 11:04 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 8:20:11 PM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Its kind of like the last 26" mountain bikes. It doesn't matter that they may have been the best of the best of the best when they were introduced. Everyone wanted 29" bikes then. So the last great 26" mountain bikes were just thrown onto the scrap pile. Didn't matter if they were great or not. They were out of date already.
>
> Ah, fashion! It's weird and powerful!
>
> - Frank Krygowski
>

And it hurts.
Michelin dropped their VR speed rated tire in the size for
my car and then a year later dropped all models in that
size. One man's ugly is another's cool:
https://www.hubcap-tire-wheel.com/Content/VehicleImage/camaro_dub_2_O.jpg

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 2:06:31 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:

> https://www.hubcap-tire-wheel.com/Content/VehicleImage/camaro_dub_2_O.jpg
>
I assume that isn't your car, Andrew. It's a good-looking muscle car, if one doesn't care about function, but a tyre that high will require either new differential ratios, a whole new differential, or a different gearbox, or possibly even both, or it will not accelerate as fast as before and probably won't be as much faster in top speed as the owner hoped because there the limit is aerodynamics. I'd also like to see the inner city roads one could ride it on without the tyre interfering with the fender.
>
Andre Jute
Sometime hotrodder.
>

On 7/24/2022 11:06 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 2:06:31 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
>
>> https://www.hubcap-tire-wheel.com/Content/VehicleImage/camaro_dub_2_O.jpg
>>
> I assume that isn't your car, Andrew. It's a good-looking muscle car, if one doesn't care about function, but a tyre that high will require either new differential ratios, a whole new differential, or a different gearbox, or possibly even both, or it will not accelerate as fast as before and probably won't be as much faster in top speed as the owner hoped because there the limit is aerodynamics. I'd also like to see the inner city roads one could ride it on without the tyre interfering with the fender.
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> Andre Jute
> Sometime hotrodder.
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Yes and yes.
Although I think Mr Krygowski tends to overstate the
problem, some fashions are incomprehensible.

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