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| |             +- Stubborn crank Gary Harnagel exposes his total ignorance of physics AGAIN!Dono.
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|     +- Cretin Thomas Heger at workDono.
|     +* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeMichael Moroney
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|     | +* Utter crank Thomas Heger embarrasses himselfDono.
|     | |`- Re: Utter crank Dontkno embarrasses himselfThomas Heger
|     | +* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
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Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0

Hiroaki Fujimori

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 by: Gnome - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:49 UTC

fujim wrote:

> Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of
> relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
> Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0 Hiroaki Fujimori

you stole this theory from kenseto and harnagel et al.

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The retarded clock fast in space has slow parts moving in space...

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On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:34:31 PM UTC-7, fujim wrote:
> Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
> Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0
>
> Hiroaki Fujimori

Fujimori-san

This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is a forum that acts as a trap for cranks. There are better fora for your presentation.

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 by: fujim - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:35 UTC

2021年6月27日日曜日 3:42:55 UTC+9 Dono.:
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:34:31 PM UTC-7, fujim wrote:
> > Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
> > Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0
> >
> > Hiroaki Fujimori
> Fujimori-san
>
> This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is a forum that acts as a trap for cranks. There are better fora for your presentation.

Dono.-san

Thank you for your kind advice.
My video is originally prepared to discuss my ideas at the Conference on the Nature and Ontology of Spacetime in this September.

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 by: Dono. - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:42 UTC

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-7, fujim wrote:
> 2021年6月27日日曜日 3:42:55 UTC+9 Dono.:
> > On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:34:31 PM UTC-7, fujim wrote:
> > > Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
> > > Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0
> > >
> > > Hiroaki Fujimori
> > Fujimori-san
> >
> > This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is a forum that acts as a trap for cranks. There are better fora for your presentation.
> Dono.-san
>
> Thank you for your kind advice.
> My video is originally prepared to discuss my ideas at the Conference on the Nature and Ontology of Spacetime in this September.

This is a much better forum: https://www.physicsforums.com/forums/special-and-general-relativity.70/
Good luck at your conference.

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 by: Takasu Utagawa - Wed, 30 Jun 2021 20:58 UTC

fujim wrote:

>> > Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of
>> > relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its
>> > conclusion. Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English
>> > subtitles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0
>> > Hiroaki Fujimori
>> Fujimori-san
>> This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is a forum that acts as
>> a trap for cranks. There are better fora for your presentation.
>
> Dono.-san Thank you for your kind advice.
> My video is originally prepared to discuss my ideas at the Conference on
> the Nature and Ontology of Spacetime in this September.

You terribly misunderstood something. A plane has no two sides which are
symmetric. A Möbius strip has two sides, but also a thickness. Planes has
no thickness associated with. Embedded into 3D a planes can't even
exists. Find another hobby.

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 by: Thomas Heger - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 05:59 UTC

Am 26.06.2021 um 20:42 schrieb Dono.:
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:34:31 PM UTC-7, fujim wrote:
>> Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
>> Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0
>>
>> Hiroaki Fujimori
>
>
> Fujimori-san
>
> This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is a forum that acts as a trap for cranks. There are better fora for your presentation.
>

If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.

But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.

This is a group, which belongs to the UseNet.

The Usenet is actually a procol, that belongs to the internet protocol
stack and is as ancient as the e-mail system.

The topic of this group is 'relativity' and meant to be a discussion
forum for topics related to SRT, GR and similar theories.

What Mr Fujimori had to say or to discuss is therefore totally on-topic,
while your reply wasn't.

TH

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 by: Dono. - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 07:32 UTC

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:00:00 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:

> But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.

Actually, it is. Specifically for kooks like you.

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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 1:32:54 AM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:00:00 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> > But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.
>
> Actually, it is. Specifically for kooks like you.

And this fully explains why DON'tknOw is here :-))

Crank Garty Harnagel exposes himself

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 by: Dono. - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:36 UTC

On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 6:31:48 AM UTC-7, hit...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 1:32:54 AM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:00:00 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >
> > > But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.
> >
> > Actually, it is. Specifically for kooks like you.
> And this fully explains why DON'tknOw is here :-))

To expose cranks like Gary Harnagel

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 by: Volney - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 16:36 UTC

On 7/2/2021 1:59 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 26.06.2021 um 20:42 schrieb Dono.:
>> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:34:31 PM UTC-7, fujim wrote:
>>> Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of
>>> relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
>>> Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0
>>>
>>> Hiroaki Fujimori
>>
>>
>> Fujimori-san
>>
>> This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is  a forum that acts
>> as a trap for cranks. There are better fora for your presentation.
>>
>
> If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.

Too late. Real scientists were chased away decades ago.

>
> But in fact this group was not meant  as 'kook trap' or similar.

Actually, it was. It was created to get the anti-relativity cranks out
of regular sci.physics. (despite that it has since fallen victim to
other cranks anyway)

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Volney wrote:

>>> This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is  a forum that acts
>>> as a trap for cranks. There are better fora for your presentation.
>>>
>> If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.
>
> Too late. Real scientists were chased away decades ago.

Unlike you, I am still here. Realer than ever.

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 by: Loyd Migan - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 18:48 UTC

Thomas Heger wrote:

> If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.
> But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.
> This is a group, which belongs to the UseNet.
> The Usenet is actually a procol, that belongs to the internet protocol
> stack and is as ancient as the e-mail system.

Thanks for clarifying matter. However, as different from SR, the GR
version of relativity was written by Einstine without any errors and
misunderstanding.

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 by: Volney - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:06 UTC

On 7/2/2021 2:24 PM, Loyd Migan wrote:
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>>>> This is not a forum for mainstream science, it is  a forum that acts
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>>>>
>>> If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.
>>
>> Too late. Real scientists were chased away decades ago.
>
> Unlike you, I am still here. Realer than ever.
>

Nymshifting isn't a science, nymshifter.

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There is asymmetry in the universe if there is contraction.
It is what has never belonged.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Gary Harnagel - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 22:37 UTC

On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 9:36:31 AM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
>
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 6:31:48 AM UTC-7, hit...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 1:32:54 AM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:00:00 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.
> > >
> > > Actually, it is. Specifically for kooks like you.
> >
> > And this fully explains why DON'tknOw is here :-))
? > To expose cranks like Gary Harnagel

You're certainly incompetent at doing that, just like you're incompetent at
doing physics. You don't seem to be competent at anything at all!

THAT'S you you're here.

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 by: Dono. - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 00:25 UTC

On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 3:37:48 PM UTC-7, hit...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 9:36:31 AM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 6:31:48 AM UTC-7, hit...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 1:32:54 AM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:00:00 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, it is. Specifically for kooks like you.
> > >
> > > And this fully explains why DON'tknOw is here :-))
> ?
> > To expose cranks like Gary Harnagel
> You're certainly incompetent at doing that,

Not true, I pointed out that your carnk paper will be rejected. And it was.

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 by: Thomas Heger - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 06:45 UTC

Am 02.07.2021 um 20:48 schrieb Loyd Migan:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>> If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.
>> But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.
>> This is a group, which belongs to the UseNet.
>> The Usenet is actually a procol, that belongs to the internet protocol
>> stack and is as ancient as the e-mail system.
>
> Thanks for clarifying matter. However, as different from SR, the GR
> version of relativity was written by Einstine without any errors and
> misunderstanding.
>
Well, he wrote also the SRT version, which is FULL of errors.

TH

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 by: Michael Moroney - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 15:23 UTC

On 7/3/2021 2:45 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 02.07.2021 um 20:48 schrieb Loyd Migan:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.
>>> But in fact this group was not meant  as 'kook trap' or similar.
>>> This is a group, which belongs to the UseNet.
>>> The Usenet is actually a procol, that belongs to the internet protocol
>>> stack and is as ancient as the e-mail system.
>>
>> Thanks for clarifying matter. However, as different from SR, the GR
>> version of relativity was written by Einstine without any errors and
>> misunderstanding.
>>
> Well, he wrote also the SRT version, which is FULL of errors.

Except there weren't any errors in SR.

I suppose you could claim the bit about time dilation on the equator vs.
north pole was wrong, but that was because of knowledge that nobody had
at the time.

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 by: Buck Espinal - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 19:05 UTC

Michael Moroney wrote:

>>> Thanks for clarifying matter. However, as different from SR, the GR
>>> version of relativity was written by Einstine without any errors and
>>> misunderstanding.
>>>
>> Well, he wrote also the SRT version, which is FULL of errors.
>
> Except there weren't any errors in SR.
>
> I suppose you could claim the bit about time dilation on the equator vs.
> north pole was wrong, but that was because of knowledge that nobody had
> at the time.

Almost true, except there wasn't any SR, but something about
electrodynamics and the mechanics of a couple of moving bodies on the
other side. Apparently completely unrelated. Anyhow, getting a valid
theory by mistake, if you ask me.

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On Saturday, 3 July 2021 at 17:23:19 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/3/2021 2:45 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > Am 02.07.2021 um 20:48 schrieb Loyd Migan:
> >> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you scare every real scientist away, this forum is doomed to decay.
> >>> But in fact this group was not meant as 'kook trap' or similar.
> >>> This is a group, which belongs to the UseNet.
> >>> The Usenet is actually a procol, that belongs to the internet protocol
> >>> stack and is as ancient as the e-mail system.
> >>
> >> Thanks for clarifying matter. However, as different from SR, the GR
> >> version of relativity was written by Einstine without any errors and
> >> misunderstanding.
> >>
> > Well, he wrote also the SRT version, which is FULL of errors.
> Except there weren't any errors in SR.

Considering the time unid valid for your idiot guru -
his Special Shit was just some inconsistent mumble
of an insane maniac. The general one is still, your
improved definitions didn't help.

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If two frames compare themselves do they not get an equal
relative motion result? therefore they should share equal clocks
and contractions...

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On 7/3/2021 8:30 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> If two frames compare themselves

You mean two observers stationary in each of two frames, Roy?

> do they not get an equal
> relative motion result?

Equal and opposite, Roy. For example v and -v.

> therefore they should share equal clocks
> and contractions...
>

They do, Roy. When you generate gamma from v and -v, it will be the
same. Since they have the same gamma, each will see the other's clocks
and rulers dilated by the same amount.

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On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 6:25:19 PM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
>
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 3:37:48 PM UTC-7, hit...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 9:36:31 AM UTC-6, Dono. wrote:
> > >
> > > To expose cranks like Gary Harnagel >
> >
> > You're certainly incompetent at doing that,
<
> Not true,

On the contrary, incompetent-breath. Your "reasons" were completely
asinine BS.

> I pointed out that your carnk paper will be rejected. And it was.

That was an opinion. Everyone has opinions, but some are more valid
than others. Yours have been unsupported by reason and logic, rather,
your opinions are based on emotion. That's why you belittle others.
It's what incompetents and bullies do.

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