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|    +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeBuck Espinal
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|     +- Cretin Thomas Heger at workDono.
|     +* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeMichael Moroney
|     |`* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeThomas Heger
|     | +* Utter crank Thomas Heger embarrasses himselfDono.
|     | |`- Re: Utter crank Dontkno embarrasses himselfThomas Heger
|     | +* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
|     | |`* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeThomas Heger
|     | | +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
|     | | +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeMichael Moroney
|     | | `- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeTom Roberts
|     | `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeMichael Moroney
|     |  `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeThomas Heger
|     |   +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeDono.
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|     |   |`* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeThomas Heger
|     |   | `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
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|     |   |   `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeThomas Heger
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|     |   |    `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
|     |   |     `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeThomas Heger
|     |   |      `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
|     |   |       +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeMaciej Wozniak
|     |   |       `* Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeThomas Heger
|     |   |        +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
|     |   |        +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeDono.
|     |   |        +- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeHugh Jass
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|     |   `- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeMichael Moroney
|     `- Re: Relativity and Symmetry of SpacetimeOdd Bodkin
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 17:48 UTC

On Sunday, 11 July 2021 at 13:08:05 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

> Einstein’s text does not need saving. It’s fine the way it is, as is
> recognized broadly by informed people.

Of course, this moronic mumble isn't even consistent,
but people informed it's perfect know it's perfect.

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 by: Thomas Heger - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 08:02 UTC

Am 11.07.2021 um 13:08 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
...

> The fact that you took a couple of years to make over 400 mistakes with
> your annotations does nothing to the text either way. It just establishes
> that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you enjoy talking a lot
> about it anyway.

It did not take me a 'couple of years', because I didn't work all the
time on the text.

Actually I wrote not more than an hour per day and maybe twice a week.

In two years I have produces roughly six versions, which I had published
via google docs and this forum.

I had also produced a German version. But that was not developed very far.

But my final version contains 428 annotations and far more text than the
origional work.

So, I didn't work particularily slow, as you comment suggests.

TH

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 11:27 UTC

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 11.07.2021 um 13:08 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> ..
>
>
>> The fact that you took a couple of years to make over 400 mistakes with
>> your annotations does nothing to the text either way. It just establishes
>> that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you enjoy talking a lot
>> about it anyway.
>
>
> It did not take me a 'couple of years', because I didn't work all the
> time on the text.
>
> Actually I wrote not more than an hour per day and maybe twice a week.
>
> In two years I have produces roughly six versions, which I had published
> via google docs and this forum.
>
> I had also produced a German version. But that was not developed very far.
>
> But my final version contains 428 annotations and far more text than the
> origional work.
>
> So, I didn't work particularily slow, as you comment suggests.
>
> TH
>
>
>

So in 200 cumulative hours you have managed to make and document over 400
of your mistakes.

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Dono. - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:43 UTC

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 1:02:34 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:

> In two years I have produces roughly six versions, which I had published
> via google docs and this forum.
>

All your versions are utter cretinisms.

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 by: Hugh Jass - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:26 UTC

Thomas Heger wrote:

> It did not take me a 'couple of years', because I didn't work all the
> time on the text.
> Actually I wrote not more than an hour per day and maybe twice a week.
> In two years I have produces roughly six versions, which I had published
> via google docs and this forum.
> I had also produced a German version. But that was not developed very
> far. But my final version contains 428 annotations and far more text
> than the origional work.
> So, I didn't work particularily slow, as you comment suggests.

Thanks. Keep it up the good work. In america today he would be working in
a warehouse. They are all immigrants. Toilet paper shortage, it makes me
depressed.

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 by: Hugh Jass - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 17:23 UTC

Thomas Heger wrote:

> I had also produced a German version. But that was not developed very
> far. But my final version contains 428 annotations and far more text
> than the origional work.

The german version of merkel is a hitler descendant. Take a look at her
facial bone structure.

Don't believe me, read this and pay attention

SHOCKING VIDEO OF FORCED VAXTERMINATIONS
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PnzY7lCX2Xhq/

The hidden truth they don't want you to know, the extermination WW2 was
through *lethal_injections*, not gas chambers. Effective, faster. The
history repeats itself.

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 by: Hugh Jass - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 17:35 UTC

Hugh Jass wrote:

>> I had also produced a German version. But that was not developed very
>> far. But my final version contains 428 annotations and far more text
>> than the origional work.
>
> The german version of merkel is a hitler descendant. Take a look at her
> facial bone structure.
>
> Don't believe me, read this and pay attention
>
> SHOCKING VIDEO OF FORCED VAXTERMINATIONS
> https://www.bitchute.com/video/PnzY7lCX2Xhq/
>
> The hidden truth they don't want you to know, the extermination WW2 was
> through *lethal_injections*, not gas chambers. Effective, faster. The
> history repeats itself.

I am trying to save lives here. I may not succeed.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 18:11 UTC

The universe stays symmetric. It does not contract from frame movement in it.
But frame movement can have slow time. Fast is slow time... slow is fact time rate.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Hugh Jass - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 20:14 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> The universe stays symmetric. It does not contract from frame movement
> in it.
> But frame movement can have slow time. Fast is slow time... slow is fact
> time rate.

slow_now you have only undergoing steep curvature gradient. Otherwise not.

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 by: fujim - Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:25 UTC

2021年7月6日火曜日 10:22:26 UTC+9 larryh...@gmail.com:
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:34:31 AM UTC+1, fujim wrote:
> > Relativity arises from the symmetry of spacetime.The principle of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light are its conclusion.
> > Please look my YouTube (13 minutes) with English subtitles.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVuoYeu9i0
> >
> > Hiroaki Fujimori
>
> Lots of people have already looked into this including Einstein as you've noted. Personally, I find the single axiom of there being an invariant universal maximum velocity c, which is also the speed of light, the most elegant way of deriving the Lorentz transformations. But if this is your way of gaining a sense of well-being and purpose to your life, then I understand where you're coming from.
>
> Larry Harson

Thank you for your open mind as you understood where I'm coming. I would like to emphasize three points. From my idea,
1. The definition of the inner product of linear algebra should be changed to the theorem of the symmetry plane invariant as (p,q)=-kx1x2+y1y2, where k is a commutative coefficient of a symmetry plane. And also from the symmetry plane, Euclidean plane and Minkowski plane are derived. Symmetry plane means front-back symmetry plane.
2.Euclidean geometry and the special relativity are integrated as a geometry of a symmetry plane .
3.We can understand the invariant universal maximum velocity c from the symmetrical point of view of spacetime and the two principles of SRT are consequences.

Hiroaki Fujimori

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