On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Paul Alsing wrote:

> > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and it will not be a
>
>
> You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> believe people are making it up.

So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.

On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 10:27:00 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

> How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?

Who cares? This has zero to do with the Drake Equation. ZERO!

The Starmaker wrote

> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 7/20/2021 5:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18-Jul-21 4:08 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>> How many planets are there in the universe?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> okay...according to fausi science..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here is a list of 8 planets I found on a google seach..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> so what is the name of the 9th planet?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you don't know the name then there are only 8 planets that
>> >>>> exist in our universe, the whole universe...all of outer space.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you believe in fausi science then you must believe there are
>> >>>> billions of planets in space...so what then is the name of the 9th
>> >>>> one?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I mean, you got ten fingers so you should be able to count
>> >>>> to ten.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> An entirely uninteresting question based on a disputed meaning of
>> >>> the word "planet".
>> >>>
>> >>> Sylvia.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, I'll re-phrase the question...so what then is the name of the
>> >> 9th planet from our sun?
>> >>
>> >> (these science guys all talk like fauci...)
>> >
>> >
>> > Truth is (nobdy wants to admit)...is, there is only one sun in the
>> > whole entire universe.
>>
>> What does Alice have to say about this?
>
> whodat?
>
>

> >> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...

In order from distance from earth: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

Define 'planet'.

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Siri Cruise wrote:
>
> > >> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>
> In order from distance from earth: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.
>
> Define 'planet'.

In order to get the correct answer
you need to get 13116 total members of
The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
to vote what is a planet.

Only 424 voted out of 13116 total members voted
(that's less than 5 percent of The International Astronomical Union (IAU) who voted)

As long as you have corrupt leaders running
The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
controlling the votes...you're not going to get the correct answer.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81m1ZFcggzL._AC_SL1000_.jpg

>
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Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 10:27:00 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
>
> Who cares? This has zero to do with the Drake Equation. ZERO!

That is an insane answer!

You wrote:

"No, the ne term means "habitable planets that are Earth-like"."

So I asked referin to n =

How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?

multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?

Is this stuff too hard for you????

YOU MEAN TO TELL ME YOU'RE UNABLE TO ANSWER THW QUESTION: How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?

Paul is insAling (insane)

Why didn't you guys warn me??

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the unchallengeable.

Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and it will not
> >
> >
> > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > believe people are making it up.
>
> So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.

What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!

You're telling me Drake is...retarded?

I wrote:

"the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."

it is right here:
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/

What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!! THIS IS INSANE!!!!

another nut in a science newsgroups!

bunch of mad scientists here...

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The Starmaker wrote

> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 7/20/2021 5:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18-Jul-21 4:08 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>> How many planets are there in the universe?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> okay...according to fausi science..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here is a list of 8 planets I found on a google seach..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> so what is the name of the 9th planet?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you don't know the name then there are only 8 planets that
>> >>>> exist in our universe, the whole universe...all of outer space.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you believe in fausi science then you must believe there are
>> >>>> billions of planets in space...so what then is the name of the 9th
>> >>>> one?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I mean, you got ten fingers so you should be able to count
>> >>>> to ten.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> An entirely uninteresting question based on a disputed meaning of
>> >>> the word "planet".
>> >>>
>> >>> Sylvia.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, I'll re-phrase the question...so what then is the name of the
>> >> 9th planet from our sun?
>> >>
>> >> (these science guys all talk like fauci...)
>> >
>> >
>> > Truth is (nobdy wants to admit)...is, there is only one sun in the
>> > whole entire universe.
>>
>> What does Alice have to say about this?
>
> whodat?
>
>

Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 10:27:00 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
> > >
> > > Who cares? This has zero to do with the Drake Equation. ZERO!
> >
> > That is an insane answer!
>
> No, you don't understand, that's all... the Drake Equation does not require knowing how many habitable planets are in the solar system, it asks *you* to guess what percentage of all planets in the galaxy are capable of sustaining life, that is to say, are habitable. It is just a guess and your guess cannot be wrong.
>
> > You wrote:
> >
> > "No, the ne term means "habitable planets that are Earth-like"."
> >
> >
> >
> > So I asked referin to n =
> >
> > How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
>
> > multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
>
> > Is this stuff too hard for you????
> >
> >
> > YOU MEAN TO TELL ME YOU'RE UNABLE TO ANSWER THW QUESTION: How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
>
> Sure, right now there is 1... but in the past, there may have been more, and in the future, there may be more or none. So what? This has nothing to do with the Drake Equation.

But, but, ...but...Drake didn't use the number one 1...so you pick number one 1 and Drake didn't. One of yous is wrong.

The original question is What was Drake's input, What number did he pick???? What was the value for ne = that Drake used?

it wasn't zero like you mentioned before, and it isn't one !, but you're getting warm....try again

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Michael Moroney wrote:
>
> On 7/26/2021 8:03 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Paul Alsing wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 10:27:00 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
> >>>
> >>> Who cares? This has zero to do with the Drake Equation. ZERO!
> >>
> >> That is an insane answer!
> >
> > No, you don't understand, that's all... the Drake Equation does not require knowing how many habitable planets are in the solar system, it asks *you* to guess what percentage of all planets in the galaxy are capable of sustaining life, that is to say, are habitable. It is just a guess and your guess cannot be wrong.
> >
> >> You wrote:
> >>
> >> "No, the ne term means "habitable planets that are Earth-like"."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So I asked referin to n =
> >>
> >> How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
> >
> >> multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
> >
> The Drake Equation does not depend on our solar system. The ne term is
> an estimate of how many earthlike planets there are, on average, per
> planetary system. I may choose 0.1 for ne, for the reason that out of
> every 10 stellar systems with planets, on average only 1 will have 1
> earthlike planet.

But Drake didn't choose number 1, so...

what number did he choose?

multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?

come on, already...yous are gettin soooo warm...you almost got it !

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > > > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and it will
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > > > believe people are making it up.
> > >
> > > So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
> >
> >
> > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
> >
> > You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
> >
> >
> > I wrote:
> >
> > "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
> >
> > it is right here:
> > https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
>
> That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.

THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.

Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""

There is no end to your...MADNESS!!

Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...

"As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."

—Frank Drake

Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?

> >
> >
> >
> > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!! THIS IS INSANE!!!!
>
> Sure, but radio telescopes were never mentioned in the original Drake Equation, and that is a fact. Look here...
>
> https://www.seti.org/drake-equation-index
>
> >
> >
> > another nut in a science newsgroups!
> >
> >
> > bunch of mad scientists here...
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.

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"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:60FEE7A4.33AF@ix.netcom.com...

Siri Cruise wrote:
>
> > >> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>
> In order from distance from earth: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

Don't forget "Melancholia": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-WNBsp15Bc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y_HUQnsPYs&t=120s

On 7/26/2021 5:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Paul Alsing wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 10:27:00 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>>> How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
>>
>> Who cares? This has zero to do with the Drake Equation. ZERO!
>
> That is an insane answer!
>
>
> You wrote:
>
> "No, the ne term means "habitable planets that are Earth-like"."
>
>
>
> So I asked referin to n =
>
> How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
>
>
> multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
>
>
>
> Is this stuff too hard for you????
>
>
> YOU MEAN TO TELL ME YOU'RE UNABLE TO ANSWER THW QUESTION: How many "habitable planets that are Earth-like" in our solar system?
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul is insAling (insane)
>
>
>
> Why didn't you guys warn me??

Because in the entire universe no person or other type of being thought
you to be worthy of a discussion.

Watch the CDC, The Scientist, Doctor Fauci and 'those people' like
them....

THEY NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MIND...ABOUT ANYTHING!

Is Pluto a planet?
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Put on your mask
Take off your Mask
Put on your mask
Take off your Mask
Put on your mask
Take off your Mask
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Take off your Mask
Pluto is a planet
Put on your mask

THEY NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MINDS...ABOUT ANYTHING!

That's why they call it...The Science.

If I was President of the United States
first thing I will do in office is
gather up all the Scientist and
send them to the firing squad.

Shoot them all!

What was their Crime? CANNOT MAKEUP THEIR FUCKIN MIND!

wat a bunch of fuckin pussies...

Is Pluto a planet?
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Put on your mask
Take off your Mask
Put on your mask
Take off your Mask
Put on your mask
Take off your Mask
Pluto is not a planet
Pluto is a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Take off your Mask
Pluto is a planet
Put on your mask

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:49:40 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Siri Cruise wrote:
>>
>> > >> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>>
>> In order from distance from earth: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus,
>> Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.
>>
>> Define 'planet'.
>
>
>
>In order to get the correct answer
>you need to get 13116 total members of
>The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
>to vote what is a planet.
>
>Only 424 voted out of 13116 total members voted
>(that's less than 5 percent of The International Astronomical Union (IAU) who voted)
>
>
>As long as you have corrupt leaders running
>The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
>controlling the votes...you're not going to get the correct answer.
>
>
>https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81m1ZFcggzL._AC_SL1000_.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> --
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>> 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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>> I am an Andrea Doria sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed
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On 7/27/2021 3:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

[...]

Idiot.

Pluto is not in the plane..
Pluto is not a plane-et.

Mitchell Raemsch

Love Means Never Having To Say You're Sorry...

Science means Never Having To Make Up Your Mind.

Here's how the Science works:

The news reporter says... "You said yesterday..."

the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said yesterday. The information is always changing.
The science is always changing. We get new updates everyday."

the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said Today. The information is always changing.
The science is always changing. We get new updates everyday."

the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I'll say tomorrow. The information is always changing.
The science is always changing. We get new updates everyday."

Trust the Science. Science means Never Having To Make Up Your Mind.

the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said a month ago....

the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said a year ago....

these bitches need to be slapped.

But I prefer the firing squad in Mississippi..

or Utah.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Watch the CDC, The Scientist, Doctor Fauci and 'those people' like
> them....
>
> THEY NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MIND...ABOUT ANYTHING!
>
> Is Pluto a planet?
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Put on your mask
> Take off your Mask
> Put on your mask
> Take off your Mask
> Put on your mask
> Take off your Mask
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Take off your Mask
> Pluto is a planet
> Put on your mask
>
> THEY NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MINDS...ABOUT ANYTHING!
>
> That's why they call it...The Science.
>
> If I was President of the United States
> first thing I will do in office is
> gather up all the Scientist and
> send them to the firing squad.
>
> Shoot them all!
>
> What was their Crime? CANNOT MAKEUP THEIR FUCKIN MIND!
>
> wat a bunch of fuckin pussies...
>
> Is Pluto a planet?
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Put on your mask
> Take off your Mask
> Put on your mask
> Take off your Mask
> Put on your mask
> Take off your Mask
> Pluto is not a planet
> Pluto is a planet
> Pluto is not a planet
> Take off your Mask
> Pluto is a planet
> Put on your mask
>
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:49:40 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Siri Cruise wrote:
> >>
> >> > >> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
> >>
> >> In order from distance from earth: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus,
> >> Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.
> >>
> >> Define 'planet'.
> >
> >
> >
> >In order to get the correct answer
> >you need to get 13116 total members of
> >The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
> >to vote what is a planet.
> >
> >Only 424 voted out of 13116 total members voted
> >(that's less than 5 percent of The International Astronomical Union (IAU) who voted)
> >
> >
> >As long as you have corrupt leaders running
> >The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
> >controlling the votes...you're not going to get the correct answer.
> >
> >
> >https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81m1ZFcggzL._AC_SL1000_.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @
> >> 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
> >> Discordia: not just a religion but also a parody. This post / \
> >> I am an Andrea Doria sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

He who controls the information, controls the world.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Love Means Never Having To Say You're Sorry...
>
> Science means Never Having To Make Up Your Mind.
>
> Here's how the Science works:
>
> The news reporter says... "You said yesterday..."
>
> the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said yesterday. The information is always changing.
> The science is always changing. We get new updates everyday."
>
> the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said Today. The information is always changing.
> The science is always changing. We get new updates everyday."
>
> the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I'll say tomorrow. The information is always changing.
> The science is always changing. We get new updates everyday."
>
> Trust the Science. Science means Never Having To Make Up Your Mind.
>
> the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said a month ago....
>
> the science guy interrupts, "Never mind what I said a year ago....
>
> these bitches need to be slapped.
>
> But I prefer the firing squad in Mississippi..
>
> or Utah.
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Watch the CDC, The Scientist, Doctor Fauci and 'those people' like
> > them....
> >
> > THEY NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MIND...ABOUT ANYTHING!
> >
> > Is Pluto a planet?
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Put on your mask
> > Take off your Mask
> > Put on your mask
> > Take off your Mask
> > Put on your mask
> > Take off your Mask
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Take off your Mask
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Put on your mask
> >
> > THEY NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MINDS...ABOUT ANYTHING!
> >
> > That's why they call it...The Science.
> >
> > If I was President of the United States
> > first thing I will do in office is
> > gather up all the Scientist and
> > send them to the firing squad.
> >
> > Shoot them all!
> >
> > What was their Crime? CANNOT MAKEUP THEIR FUCKIN MIND!
> >
> > wat a bunch of fuckin pussies...
> >
> > Is Pluto a planet?
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Put on your mask
> > Take off your Mask
> > Put on your mask
> > Take off your Mask
> > Put on your mask
> > Take off your Mask
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Pluto is not a planet
> > Take off your Mask
> > Pluto is a planet
> > Put on your mask
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:49:40 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Siri Cruise wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > >> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
> > >>
> > >> In order from distance from earth: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus,
> > >> Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.
> > >>
> > >> Define 'planet'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >In order to get the correct answer
> > >you need to get 13116 total members of
> > >The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
> > >to vote what is a planet.
> > >
> > >Only 424 voted out of 13116 total members voted
> > >(that's less than 5 percent of The International Astronomical Union (IAU) who voted)
> > >
> > >
> > >As long as you have corrupt leaders running
> > >The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
> > >controlling the votes...you're not going to get the correct answer.
> > >
> > >
> > >https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81m1ZFcggzL._AC_SL1000_.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @
> > >> 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
> > >> Discordia: not just a religion but also a parody. This post / \
> > >> I am an Andrea Doria sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:18:25 -0500, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
wrote:

>On 7/27/2021 3:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>Idiot.

What you are saying is...You're right, and I'm as idiot.

On 7/28/2021 12:05 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:18:25 -0500, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/27/2021 3:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Idiot.
>
> What you are saying is...You're right, and I'm as idiot.

Why do you insist on putting words into my mouth? I made
no claims other than that you are an idiot. Your
"conclusion" further affirms that. I am fully capable of
saying what I mean with no help from the likes of you.

whodat wrote:
>
> On 7/28/2021 12:05 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:18:25 -0500, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/27/2021 3:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Idiot.
> >
> > What you are saying is...You're right, and I'm an idiot.
>
> Why do you insist on putting words into my mouth? I made
> no claims other than that you are an idiot. Your
> "conclusion" further affirms that. I am fully capable of
> saying what I mean with no help from the likes of you.

Okay, make up your mind, you're wrong and I'm an idiot.

dats sounds more like it...

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On 7/28/2021 12:19 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 7/28/2021 12:05 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:18:25 -0500, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/27/2021 3:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> What you are saying is...You're right, and I'm an idiot.
>>
>> Why do you insist on putting words into my mouth? I made
>> no claims other than that you are an idiot. Your
>> "conclusion" further affirms that. I am fully capable of
>> saying what I mean with no help from the likes of you.
>
>
> Okay, make up your mind, you're wrong and I'm an idiot.
>
>
> dats sounds more like it...

Once again you insist on putting words in my mouth.
You keep proving what I said. Thanks.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Paul Alsing wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and it wi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > > > > believe people are making it up.
> > > >
> > > > So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
> > >
> > > You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
> > >
> > >
> > > I wrote:
> > >
> > > "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
> > >
> > > it is right here:
> > > https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
> >
> > That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.
>
> THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.
>
> Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""
>
> There is no end to your...MADNESS!!
>
> Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...
>
> "As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
> so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
> looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
> detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."
>
> —Frank Drake
>
> Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?

Okay, it appears to me everyone is afraid to say the number that Frank Drake used for n =
because it would pinpoint exactly where he intentionally committed fraud with his equation.

That is also the reason Why his peers are trying to 'erase' that number from the Internet.
(cannot be erased from books that was published in the past that contained his equation and original numbers numbers he used)

I am simply pointing to everyone where exactly the intentional fraud occurred.

So here are a some examples of the actual values Drake used in his equation:

https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/89b98132414723.5605bc5d1a80f.png

http://www.astrodigital.org/astronomy/drake_equation.html

(you will notice a link :According to the Wikipedia entry for the Drake Equation, the following values were those used in the original formulation of the Drake Equation:)
(but of course they fraudulent changed the original values Drake used in Wiki and called it Original estimates)

R = 10
fp = 0.5
ne = 2.0
fl = 1.0
fi = 0.01
fc = 0.01
L = 10000

N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
L = Years a civilization remains detectable

(But they cannot change it in books in the past, only online)

So, now you know n = 2 (Average number of habitable planets per star)

Now, Some of yous (not all of yous) have guessed Earth is one of the habitable planets...

but Fred Drake put down the number 2

so, What is the name of the second one????

Since Frank Drake obviously is *using* our star as an example/sample of habitable planets,

then what is the name of the habitable planet besides Earth?

In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets.

So, ne = 2.0 What two planets did he used in his equation?

Earth is one.

What's the second one he used for a sample? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto????

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Okay, it seems that some of yous dont understand what a "postscript" is...

( i get it, what you don't know you don't know)

I'll explain:

A Postscript is and after thought after a letter.

> N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> L = Years a civilization remains detectable

the p in fp is planets

the e in ne is Earth/earths

the l in fl is life

the i on fi is intelligent

the c in fc is communication

Upper case N is different from lower case n , they both have to different meanings.

N is the answer, n is any number, can be changed.

n = 2

2 planets.

Are yous going to ask me Why is the sky Blue?

Can yous people get pass the second grade????

the p in fp is planets (Fraction of stars that form planets) IT'S A POSTSCRIPT!!!!! This is lunacy!!

If you're unable to get past the postscript then there is no hopes for yous.

the c in fc is communication

(you don't need to be a math whiz to figure that got....)

Go back to the first grade! No school September for yous...

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and it
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > > > > > believe people are making it up.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
> > > >
> > > > You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
> > > >
> > > > it is right here:
> > > > https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
> > >
> > > That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.
> >
> > THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.
> >
> > Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""
> >
> > There is no end to your...MADNESS!!
> >
> > Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...
> >
> > "As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
> > so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
> > looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
> > detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."
> >
> > —Frank Drake
> >
> > Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
>
> Okay, it appears to me everyone is afraid to say the number that Frank Drake used for n =
> because it would pinpoint exactly where he intentionally committed fraud with his equation.
>
> That is also the reason Why his peers are trying to 'erase' that number from the Internet.
> (cannot be erased from books that was published in the past that contained his equation and original numbers numbers he used)
>
> I am simply pointing to everyone where exactly the intentional fraud occurred.
>
> So here are a some examples of the actual values Drake used in his equation:
>
> https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/89b98132414723.5605bc5d1a80f.png
>
> http://www.astrodigital.org/astronomy/drake_equation.html
>
> (you will notice a link :According to the Wikipedia entry for the Drake Equation, the following values were those used in the original formulation of the Drake Equation:)
> (but of course they fraudulent changed the original values Drake used in Wiki and called it Original estimates)
>
> R = 10
> fp = 0.5
> ne = 2.0
> fl = 1.0
> fi = 0.01
> fc = 0.01
> L = 10000
>
> N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> L = Years a civilization remains detectable
>
> (But they cannot change it in books in the past, only online)
>
> So, now you know n = 2 (Average number of habitable planets per star)
>
> Now, Some of yous (not all of yous) have guessed Earth is one of the habitable planets...
>
> but Fred Drake put down the number 2
>
> so, What is the name of the second one????
>
> Since Frank Drake obviously is *using* our star as an example/sample of habitable planets,
>
> then what is the name of the habitable planet besides Earth?
>
> In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets.
>
> So, ne = 2.0 What two planets did he used in his equation?
>
> Earth is one.
>
> What's the second one he used for a sample? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto????
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Okay, just a little re-cap...

Those of you who have no idea how to recognize patterns or know what is a pattern...

a closer look at what the "subscripts" reveals

the p in fp is planets because Drake took the subscript :fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
and made the letter p of planets a subscript.

That's how Drake got the

the p in fp .

He did the same thing with all the others..

but with ne = 2 He didn't want to name the second planet.

But here is a clue..habitable planets (ne) where life emerges = Earth/Earths or what you call today Earth-Like.

So, since Frank Drake wrote n = 2, then what two are Earth-Like planets?

Since most of yous have difficulty getting that answer because of attempts by the 'scientific community' to (hide Drake Fraud)

the answer that Fred Drake 'had in mind' for what two (2) habitable planets (ne) where life emerges n=2

is....Earth and Mars.

Now, *Mars* is the Fraudulent answer in Drake's Equation.

"Mars" makes the whole entire Drake's Equation a complete FRAUD!

In other words, in Drake's feeble mind he felt the only planets that were habitable where life emerges is were Earth and Mars.

As they say...if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Okay, it seems that some of yous dont understand what a "postscript" is...
>
> ( i get it, what you don't know you don't know)
>
> I'll explain:
>
> A Postscript is and after thought after a letter.
>
> > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
>
> the p in fp is planets
>
> the e in ne is Earth/earths
>
> the l in fl is life
>
> the i on fi is intelligent
>
> the c in fc is communication
>
> Upper case N is different from lower case n , they both have to different meanings.
>
> N is the answer, n is any number, can be changed.
>
> n = 2
>
> 2 planets.
>
> Are yous going to ask me Why is the sky Blue?
>
> Can yous people get pass the second grade????
>
> the p in fp is planets (Fraction of stars that form planets) IT'S A POSTSCRIPT!!!!! This is lunacy!!
>
> If you're unable to get past the postscript then there is no hopes for yous.
>
> the c in fc is communication
>
> (you don't need to be a math whiz to figure that got....)
>
> Go back to the first grade! No school September for yous...
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and i
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > > > > > > believe people are making it up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
> > > > >
> > > > > it is right here:
> > > > > https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
> > > >
> > > > That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.
> > >
> > > THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.
> > >
> > > Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""
> > >
> > > There is no end to your...MADNESS!!
> > >
> > > Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...
> > >
> > > "As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
> > > so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
> > > looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
> > > detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."
> > >
> > > —Frank Drake
> > >
> > > Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
> >
> > Okay, it appears to me everyone is afraid to say the number that Frank Drake used for n =
> > because it would pinpoint exactly where he intentionally committed fraud with his equation.
> >
> > That is also the reason Why his peers are trying to 'erase' that number from the Internet.
> > (cannot be erased from books that was published in the past that contained his equation and original numbers numbers he used)
> >
> > I am simply pointing to everyone where exactly the intentional fraud occurred.
> >
> > So here are a some examples of the actual values Drake used in his equation:
> >
> > https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/89b98132414723.5605bc5d1a80f.png
> >
> > http://www.astrodigital.org/astronomy/drake_equation.html
> >
> > (you will notice a link :According to the Wikipedia entry for the Drake Equation, the following values were those used in the original formulation of the Drake Equation:)
> > (but of course they fraudulent changed the original values Drake used in Wiki and called it Original estimates)
> >
> > R = 10
> > fp = 0.5
> > ne = 2.0
> > fl = 1.0
> > fi = 0.01
> > fc = 0.01
> > L = 10000
> >
> > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
> >
> > (But they cannot change it in books in the past, only online)
> >
> > So, now you know n = 2 (Average number of habitable planets per star)
> >
> > Now, Some of yous (not all of yous) have guessed Earth is one of the habitable planets...
> >
> > but Fred Drake put down the number 2
> >
> > so, What is the name of the second one????
> >
> > Since Frank Drake obviously is *using* our star as an example/sample of habitable planets,
> >
> > then what is the name of the habitable planet besides Earth?
> >
> > In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets.
> >
> > So, ne = 2.0 What two planets did he used in his equation?
> >
> > Earth is one.
> >
> > What's the second one he used for a sample? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto????
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.