I do believe this is the first time I've seen a pile of shit on top of
another pile of shit. Perhaps I just never noticed before. Whatever...

On 7/31/2021 3:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Okay, just a little re-cap...
>
> Those of you who have no idea how to recognize patterns or know what is a pattern...
>
> a closer look at what the "subscripts" reveals
>
> the p in fp is planets because Drake took the subscript :fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> and made the letter p of planets a subscript.
>
> That's how Drake got the
>
> the p in fp .
>
> He did the same thing with all the others..
>
> but with ne = 2 He didn't want to name the second planet.
>
> But here is a clue..habitable planets (ne) where life emerges = Earth/Earths or what you call today Earth-Like.
>
>
> So, since Frank Drake wrote n = 2, then what two are Earth-Like planets?
>
>
> Since most of yous have difficulty getting that answer because of attempts by the 'scientific community' to (hide Drake Fraud)
>
> the answer that Fred Drake 'had in mind' for what two (2) habitable planets (ne) where life emerges n=2
>
> is....Earth and Mars.
>
>
> Now, *Mars* is the Fraudulent answer in Drake's Equation.
>
>
> "Mars" makes the whole entire Drake's Equation a complete FRAUD!
>
>
> In other words, in Drake's feeble mind he felt the only planets that were habitable where life emerges is were Earth and Mars.
>
> As they say...if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
>
>
>
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Okay, it seems that some of yous dont understand what a "postscript" is...
>>
>> ( i get it, what you don't know you don't know)
>>
>> I'll explain:
>>
>> A Postscript is and after thought after a letter.
>>
>>> N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
>>> R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
>>> fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
>>> ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
>>> fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
>>> fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
>>> fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
>>> L = Years a civilization remains detectable
>>
>> the p in fp is planets
>>
>> the e in ne is Earth/earths
>>
>> the l in fl is life
>>
>> the i on fi is intelligent
>>
>> the c in fc is communication
>>
>> Upper case N is different from lower case n , they both have to different meanings.
>>
>> N is the answer, n is any number, can be changed.
>>
>> n = 2
>>
>> 2 planets.
>>
>> Are yous going to ask me Why is the sky Blue?
>>
>> Can yous people get pass the second grade????
>>
>> the p in fp is planets (Fraction of stars that form planets) IT'S A POSTSCRIPT!!!!! This is lunacy!!
>>
>> If you're unable to get past the postscript then there is no hopes for yous.
>>
>> the c in fc is communication
>>
>> (you don't need to be a math whiz to figure that got....)
>>
>> Go back to the first grade! No school September for yous...
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and i
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
>>>>>>>> believe people are making it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is right here:
>>>>>> https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.
>>>>
>>>> Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""
>>>>
>>>> There is no end to your...MADNESS!!
>>>>
>>>> Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...
>>>>
>>>> "As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
>>>> so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
>>>> looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
>>>> detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."
>>>>
>>>> —Frank Drake
>>>>
>>>> Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
>>>
>>> Okay, it appears to me everyone is afraid to say the number that Frank Drake used for n =
>>> because it would pinpoint exactly where he intentionally committed fraud with his equation.
>>>
>>> That is also the reason Why his peers are trying to 'erase' that number from the Internet.
>>> (cannot be erased from books that was published in the past that contained his equation and original numbers numbers he used)
>>>
>>> I am simply pointing to everyone where exactly the intentional fraud occurred.
>>>
>>> So here are a some examples of the actual values Drake used in his equation:
>>>
>>> https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/89b98132414723.5605bc5d1a80f.png
>>>
>>> http://www.astrodigital.org/astronomy/drake_equation.html
>>>
>>> (you will notice a link :According to the Wikipedia entry for the Drake Equation, the following values were those used in the original formulation of the Drake Equation:)
>>> (but of course they fraudulent changed the original values Drake used in Wiki and called it Original estimates)
>>>
>>> R = 10
>>> fp = 0.5
>>> ne = 2.0
>>> fl = 1.0
>>> fi = 0.01
>>> fc = 0.01
>>> L = 10000
>>>
>>> N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
>>> R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
>>> fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
>>> ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
>>> fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
>>> fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
>>> fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
>>> L = Years a civilization remains detectable
>>>
>>> (But they cannot change it in books in the past, only online)
>>>
>>> So, now you know n = 2 (Average number of habitable planets per star)
>>>
>>> Now, Some of yous (not all of yous) have guessed Earth is one of the habitable planets...
>>>
>>> but Fred Drake put down the number 2
>>>
>>> so, What is the name of the second one????
>>>
>>> Since Frank Drake obviously is *using* our star as an example/sample of habitable planets,
>>>
>>> then what is the name of the habitable planet besides Earth?
>>>
>>> In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets.
>>>
>>> So, ne = 2.0 What two planets did he used in his equation?
>>>
>>> Earth is one.
>>>
>>> What's the second one he used for a sample? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto????
>>>
>>> --
>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>>> the unchallengeable.
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.
>

Then Drake wanted to change the number 2 to 3 because he thinks Venus is
a habitable planet...

kooks everywhere.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Okay, just a little re-cap...
>
> Those of you who have no idea how to recognize patterns or know what is a pattern...
>
> a closer look at what the "subscripts" reveals
>
> the p in fp is planets because Drake took the subscript :fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> and made the letter p of planets a subscript.
>
> That's how Drake got the
>
> the p in fp .
>
> He did the same thing with all the others..
>
> but with ne = 2 He didn't want to name the second planet.
>
> But here is a clue..habitable planets (ne) where life emerges = Earth/Earths or what you call today Earth-Like.
>
> So, since Frank Drake wrote n = 2, then what two are Earth-Like planets?
>
> Since most of yous have difficulty getting that answer because of attempts by the 'scientific community' to (hide Drake Fraud)
>
> the answer that Fred Drake 'had in mind' for what two (2) habitable planets (ne) where life emerges n=2
>
> is....Earth and Mars.
>
> Now, *Mars* is the Fraudulent answer in Drake's Equation.
>
> "Mars" makes the whole entire Drake's Equation a complete FRAUD!
>
> In other words, in Drake's feeble mind he felt the only planets that were habitable where life emerges is were Earth and Mars.
>
> As they say...if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Okay, it seems that some of yous dont understand what a "postscript" is...
> >
> > ( i get it, what you don't know you don't know)
> >
> > I'll explain:
> >
> > A Postscript is and after thought after a letter.
> >
> > > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
> >
> > the p in fp is planets
> >
> > the e in ne is Earth/earths
> >
> > the l in fl is life
> >
> > the i on fi is intelligent
> >
> > the c in fc is communication
> >
> > Upper case N is different from lower case n , they both have to different meanings.
> >
> > N is the answer, n is any number, can be changed.
> >
> > n = 2
> >
> > 2 planets.
> >
> > Are yous going to ask me Why is the sky Blue?
> >
> > Can yous people get pass the second grade????
> >
> > the p in fp is planets (Fraction of stars that form planets) IT'S A POSTSCRIPT!!!!! This is lunacy!!
> >
> > If you're unable to get past the postscript then there is no hopes for yous.
> >
> > the c in fc is communication
> >
> > (you don't need to be a math whiz to figure that got....)
> >
> > Go back to the first grade! No school September for yous...
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > > > > > > > believe people are making it up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it is right here:
> > > > > > https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.
> > > >
> > > > THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.
> > > >
> > > > Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""
> > > >
> > > > There is no end to your...MADNESS!!
> > > >
> > > > Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...
> > > >
> > > > "As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
> > > > so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
> > > > looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
> > > > detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."
> > > >
> > > > —Frank Drake
> > > >
> > > > Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
> > >
> > > Okay, it appears to me everyone is afraid to say the number that Frank Drake used for n =
> > > because it would pinpoint exactly where he intentionally committed fraud with his equation.
> > >
> > > That is also the reason Why his peers are trying to 'erase' that number from the Internet.
> > > (cannot be erased from books that was published in the past that contained his equation and original numbers numbers he used)
> > >
> > > I am simply pointing to everyone where exactly the intentional fraud occurred.
> > >
> > > So here are a some examples of the actual values Drake used in his equation:
> > >
> > > https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/89b98132414723.5605bc5d1a80f.png
> > >
> > > http://www.astrodigital.org/astronomy/drake_equation.html
> > >
> > > (you will notice a link :According to the Wikipedia entry for the Drake Equation, the following values were those used in the original formulation of the Drake Equation:)
> > > (but of course they fraudulent changed the original values Drake used in Wiki and called it Original estimates)
> > >
> > > R = 10
> > > fp = 0.5
> > > ne = 2.0
> > > fl = 1.0
> > > fi = 0.01
> > > fc = 0.01
> > > L = 10000
> > >
> > > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
> > >
> > > (But they cannot change it in books in the past, only online)
> > >
> > > So, now you know n = 2 (Average number of habitable planets per star)
> > >
> > > Now, Some of yous (not all of yous) have guessed Earth is one of the habitable planets...
> > >
> > > but Fred Drake put down the number 2
> > >
> > > so, What is the name of the second one????
> > >
> > > Since Frank Drake obviously is *using* our star as an example/sample of habitable planets,
> > >
> > > then what is the name of the habitable planet besides Earth?
> > >
> > > In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets.
> > >
> > > So, ne = 2.0 What two planets did he used in his equation?
> > >
> > > Earth is one.
> > >
> > > What's the second one he used for a sample? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto????
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Since the real number for ne= is not 3, not 2 but just only one n = 1

only one habitable planet called earth...
then you don't even have what amounts to a 'pattern' (2 or more).

You don't have a sample pattern to go by.

Hell, I'll accept one snowflake on any other planet 'as proof of life on other planets' if it resembles our snowflake pattern!

But, even there that doesn't exist.

No pattern. no other earths. It's that simple.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Then Drake wanted to change the number 2 to 3 because he thinks Venus is
> a habitable planet...
>
> kooks everywhere.
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Okay, just a little re-cap...
> >
> > Those of you who have no idea how to recognize patterns or know what is a pattern...
> >
> > a closer look at what the "subscripts" reveals
> >
> > the p in fp is planets because Drake took the subscript :fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > and made the letter p of planets a subscript.
> >
> > That's how Drake got the
> >
> > the p in fp .
> >
> > He did the same thing with all the others..
> >
> > but with ne = 2 He didn't want to name the second planet.
> >
> > But here is a clue..habitable planets (ne) where life emerges = Earth/Earths or what you call today Earth-Like.
> >
> > So, since Frank Drake wrote n = 2, then what two are Earth-Like planets?
> >
> > Since most of yous have difficulty getting that answer because of attempts by the 'scientific community' to (hide Drake Fraud)
> >
> > the answer that Fred Drake 'had in mind' for what two (2) habitable planets (ne) where life emerges n=2
> >
> > is....Earth and Mars.
> >
> > Now, *Mars* is the Fraudulent answer in Drake's Equation.
> >
> > "Mars" makes the whole entire Drake's Equation a complete FRAUD!
> >
> > In other words, in Drake's feeble mind he felt the only planets that were habitable where life emerges is were Earth and Mars.
> >
> > As they say...if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, it seems that some of yous dont understand what a "postscript" is...
> > >
> > > ( i get it, what you don't know you don't know)
> > >
> > > I'll explain:
> > >
> > > A Postscript is and after thought after a letter.
> > >
> > > > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > > > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > > > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > > > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > > > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > > > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > > > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > > > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
> > >
> > > the p in fp is planets
> > >
> > > the e in ne is Earth/earths
> > >
> > > the l in fl is life
> > >
> > > the i on fi is intelligent
> > >
> > > the c in fc is communication
> > >
> > > Upper case N is different from lower case n , they both have to different meanings.
> > >
> > > N is the answer, n is any number, can be changed.
> > >
> > > n = 2
> > >
> > > 2 planets.
> > >
> > > Are yous going to ask me Why is the sky Blue?
> > >
> > > Can yous people get pass the second grade????
> > >
> > > the p in fp is planets (Fraction of stars that form planets) IT'S A POSTSCRIPT!!!!! This is lunacy!!
> > >
> > > If you're unable to get past the postscript then there is no hopes for yous.
> > >
> > > the c in fc is communication
> > >
> > > (you don't need to be a math whiz to figure that got....)
> > >
> > > Go back to the first grade! No school September for yous...
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer, a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > > > > > > > > believe people are making it up.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > it is right here:
> > > > > > > https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no end to your...MADNESS!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...
> > > > >
> > > > > "As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
> > > > > so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
> > > > > looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
> > > > > detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."
> > > > >
> > > > > —Frank Drake
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
> > > >
> > > > Okay, it appears to me everyone is afraid to say the number that Frank Drake used for n =
> > > > because it would pinpoint exactly where he intentionally committed fraud with his equation.
> > > >
> > > > That is also the reason Why his peers are trying to 'erase' that number from the Internet.
> > > > (cannot be erased from books that was published in the past that contained his equation and original numbers numbers he used)
> > > >
> > > > I am simply pointing to everyone where exactly the intentional fraud occurred.
> > > >
> > > > So here are a some examples of the actual values Drake used in his equation:
> > > >
> > > > https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/89b98132414723.5605bc5d1a80f.png
> > > >
> > > > http://www.astrodigital.org/astronomy/drake_equation.html
> > > >
> > > > (you will notice a link :According to the Wikipedia entry for the Drake Equation, the following values were those used in the original formulation of the Drake Equation:)
> > > > (but of course they fraudulent changed the original values Drake used in Wiki and called it Original estimates)
> > > >
> > > > R = 10
> > > > fp = 0.5
> > > > ne = 2.0
> > > > fl = 1.0
> > > > fi = 0.01
> > > > fc = 0.01
> > > > L = 10000
> > > >
> > > > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > > > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > > > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > > > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > > > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > > > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > > > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > > > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
> > > >
> > > > (But they cannot change it in books in the past, only online)
> > > >
> > > > So, now you know n = 2 (Average number of habitable planets per star)
> > > >
> > > > Now, Some of yous (not all of yous) have guessed Earth is one of the habitable planets...
> > > >
> > > > but Fred Drake put down the number 2
> > > >
> > > > so, What is the name of the second one????
> > > >
> > > > Since Frank Drake obviously is *using* our star as an example/sample of habitable planets,
> > > >
> > > > then what is the name of the habitable planet besides Earth?
> > > >
> > > > In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets.
> > > >
> > > > So, ne = 2.0 What two planets did he used in his equation?
> > > >
> > > > Earth is one.
> > > >
> > > > What's the second one he used for a sample? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto????
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Now, I wrote: "Hell, I'll accept one snowflake on any other planet 'as proof of life on other planets' if it resembles our snowflake pattern!"

It appears to me that some of yous have no idea what a sample pattern means...

If, you take one snowflake on Earth
(if you never seen a snowflake before)
you will have no idea what a snowflake pattern looks like.

You will need a 'second' snowflake from earth in order
to determine what pattern it has.

In other words, you need 2 snowflakes to figure out
if a pattern exist.

If you compare 2 snowflakes on earth, you begin to see a ...pattern.

Now you got to find
somewhere in the snow
on another planet
a snowflake.

Compare that snowflake with the one you have on earth and see
if there is a pattern like the one on earth.

"Hell, I'll accept one snowflake on any other planet 'as proof of life on other planets' if it resembles our snowflake *pattern*!"

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Since the real number for ne= is not 3, not 2 but just only one n = 1
>
> only one habitable planet called earth...
> then you don't even have what amounts to a 'pattern' (2 or more).
>
> You don't have a sample pattern to go by.
>
> Hell, I'll accept one snowflake on any other planet 'as proof of life on other planets' if it resembles our snowflake pattern!
>
> But, even there that doesn't exist.
>
> No pattern. no other earths. It's that simple.
>
>
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Then Drake wanted to change the number 2 to 3 because he thinks Venus is
> > a habitable planet...
> >
> > kooks everywhere.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, just a little re-cap...
> > >
> > > Those of you who have no idea how to recognize patterns or know what is a pattern...
> > >
> > > a closer look at what the "subscripts" reveals
> > >
> > > the p in fp is planets because Drake took the subscript :fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > > and made the letter p of planets a subscript.
> > >
> > > That's how Drake got the
> > >
> > > the p in fp .
> > >
> > > He did the same thing with all the others..
> > >
> > > but with ne = 2 He didn't want to name the second planet.
> > >
> > > But here is a clue..habitable planets (ne) where life emerges = Earth/Earths or what you call today Earth-Like.
> > >
> > > So, since Frank Drake wrote n = 2, then what two are Earth-Like planets?
> > >
> > > Since most of yous have difficulty getting that answer because of attempts by the 'scientific community' to (hide Drake Fraud)
> > >
> > > the answer that Fred Drake 'had in mind' for what two (2) habitable planets (ne) where life emerges n=2
> > >
> > > is....Earth and Mars.
> > >
> > > Now, *Mars* is the Fraudulent answer in Drake's Equation.
> > >
> > > "Mars" makes the whole entire Drake's Equation a complete FRAUD!
> > >
> > > In other words, in Drake's feeble mind he felt the only planets that were habitable where life emerges is were Earth and Mars.
> > >
> > > As they say...if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, it seems that some of yous dont understand what a "postscript" is...
> > > >
> > > > ( i get it, what you don't know you don't know)
> > > >
> > > > I'll explain:
> > > >
> > > > A Postscript is and after thought after a letter.
> > > >
> > > > > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > > > > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > > > > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > > > > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > > > > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > > > > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > > > > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > > > > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
> > > >
> > > > the p in fp is planets
> > > >
> > > > the e in ne is Earth/earths
> > > >
> > > > the l in fl is life
> > > >
> > > > the i on fi is intelligent
> > > >
> > > > the c in fc is communication
> > > >
> > > > Upper case N is different from lower case n , they both have to different meanings.
> > > >
> > > > N is the answer, n is any number, can be changed.
> > > >
> > > > n = 2
> > > >
> > > > 2 planets.
> > > >
> > > > Are yous going to ask me Why is the sky Blue?
> > > >
> > > > Can yous people get pass the second grade????
> > > >
> > > > the p in fp is planets (Fraction of stars that form planets) IT'S A POSTSCRIPT!!!!! This is lunacy!!
> > > >
> > > > If you're unable to get past the postscript then there is no hopes for yous.
> > > >
> > > > the c in fc is communication
> > > >
> > > > (you don't need to be a math whiz to figure that got....)
> > > >
> > > > Go back to the first grade! No school September for yous...
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 3:23:16 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So, it does not mention "radio telescopes" at all, you just made that up. You are guilty of splitting hairs. It does not really matter how you want to define "civilization", use whatever definition you like. It makes no difference whatsoever. It is just a guess or > estimate in any case. The Drake Equation is just a fun exercise, not a life-or-death combat, and all the 'rules' are loosey-goosey and your guess is not particularly important at all, you will still get an answer,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You have a pattern, Everytime you show you don't know somehing you
> > > > > > > > > > believe people are making it up.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, show me to be wrong. Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes. Put up or shut up. Otherwise, I say you are making it up. You don't get to say stuff that you cannot confirm as far as I am concerned.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do you mean "where Drake mentioned radio telescopes"???? Drake was working as a radio astronomer...he used radio telecopes!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're telling me Drake is...retarded?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "the Drake equation defines a “civilization” as a species possessing radiotelescopes. By this definition, civilization did not appear on Earth until the 1930s."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it is right here:
> > > > > > > > https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018/02/16/mistakes-in-the-drake-equation/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's a nice article, but nowhere does it give that definition of a "civilization", you have made that up... and besides, we are talking about the original Drake Equation, not some fellow's critique of it, or his modern update of it. That is all fine and dandy but is >definitely not part of this discussion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THIS IS INSANITY!!!! You first wrote: Show me where Drake mentioned radio telescopes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, you want "definition of a "civilization""
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no end to your...MADNESS!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here ia a quote directly from Fraud Drake ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "As I planned the meeting, I realized a few day[s] ahead of time we needed an agenda. And
> > > > > > so I wrote down all the things you needed to know to predict how hard it's going to be to detect extraterrestrial life. And
> > > > > > looking at them it became pretty evident that if you multiplied all these together, you got a number, N, which is the number of
> > > > > > detectable civilizations in our galaxy. This was aimed at the radio search, and not to search for primordial or primitive life forms."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > —Frank Drake
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, multible choice 0, 1, 2, or 3?
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, it appears to me everyone is afraid to say the number that Frank Drake used for n =
> > > > > because it would pinpoint exactly where he intentionally committed fraud with his equation.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is also the reason Why his peers are trying to 'erase' that number from the Internet.
> > > > > (cannot be erased from books that was published in the past that contained his equation and original numbers numbers he used)
> > > > >
> > > > > I am simply pointing to everyone where exactly the intentional fraud occurred.
> > > > >
> > > > > So here are a some examples of the actual values Drake used in his equation:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/89b98132414723.5605bc5d1a80f.png
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.astrodigital.org/astronomy/drake_equation.html
> > > > >
> > > > > (you will notice a link :According to the Wikipedia entry for the Drake Equation, the following values were those used in the original formulation of the Drake Equation:)
> > > > > (but of course they fraudulent changed the original values Drake used in Wiki and called it Original estimates)
> > > > >
> > > > > R = 10
> > > > > fp = 0.5
> > > > > ne = 2.0
> > > > > fl = 1.0
> > > > > fi = 0.01
> > > > > fc = 0.01
> > > > > L = 10000
> > > > >
> > > > > N = The number of broadcasting civilizations.
> > > > > R = Average rate of formation of suitable stars (stars/year) in the Milky Way galaxy
> > > > > fp = Fraction of stars that form planets
> > > > > ne = Average number of habitable planets per star
> > > > > fl = Fraction of habitable planets (ne) where life emerges
> > > > > fi = Fraction of habitable planets with life where intelligent evolves
> > > > > fc = Fraction of planets with intelligent life capable of interstellar communication
> > > > > L = Years a civilization remains detectable
> > > > >
> > > > > (But they cannot change it in books in the past, only online)
> > > > >
> > > > > So, now you know n = 2 (Average number of habitable planets per star)
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, Some of yous (not all of yous) have guessed Earth is one of the habitable planets...
> > > > >
> > > > > but Fred Drake put down the number 2
> > > > >
> > > > > so, What is the name of the second one????
> > > > >
> > > > > Since Frank Drake obviously is *using* our star as an example/sample of habitable planets,
> > > > >
> > > > > then what is the name of the habitable planet besides Earth?
> > > > >
> > > > > In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, ne = 2.0 What two planets did he used in his equation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Earth is one.
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the second one he used for a sample? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto????
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

As yous already know:

"...we have hidden laboratories in which men are working as hard as
they can to develop bacteria for which no one else will be able to
find a cure. " -- RICHARD P. FEYNMAN 1963

and China made a virus in their lab to kill everybody in the world!

But, I forgot to mention...

Do you know who 'invented' this idea of a virus made in a lab designed to kill people????

A method of killing
millions of people
but, but,
at the same time
does not
destroy...infrastructure.

His name is...Albert Einstein.

Atomic bombs mess up a lot of buildings,
roads, etc.

He thought of a bomb that kills people
but doesn't hurt buildings.

Soon, afterwards...his buddy
Albert Einstein who built the
atomic bomb with, and
took out
patents together..

his buddy (Leo Szilard) dropped Physics and
switch to...Biology.

His goal..to end human life on Earth.

on a side note...i heard somewhere...i forgot where..

that the Scientists goal is to end human life on Earth.

They plan on building a rocket ship
to another planet, that only carries 'other' scientists.

Then, they will end human life on Earth with some sort of bomb
that kills people
but doesn't hurt buildings.

Then they will return to Earth and take over whats left.

Get rid of all the stupid people...

which in their mind comes out to...six billion nine hundred and ninety-three million people.

But, again..i cannot verify this because i forgot where i heard it from...but it's True.

I guess Bezo and Elon must have heard about it too!
(they going to build their own rocket ship and take all the pretty girls with them)

nasty girls of course..

girls that like to do the nasty.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> What i don't understand is...
> Why does the United States
> feel
> they need to look at the China lab...
>
> (they claim so that they can protect themselves in the future)
>
> The whole purpose of China making a killer virus is to kill everybody
> in the United States with it!
>
> Why would China want to let you in??
>
> That's like the Russians saying "Hey, we got to
> go to the Manhattan Project to learn how to make an atomic bomb so
> that we can protect ourselves!"
>
> I doesn't make any sense to me.
>
> Yoooooussss are suppose to DIE!
>
> They want you dead!
>
> That's the deal. That's the bottom line.
>
> Israel kills nuclear scientists.
>
> You need to kill all the Viraologists.
>
> and while you're at it...all the ransomewareologist!
>
> and the globalwarmingologists!
>
> Let me give you a quote from Richard Feyman...
>
> "...we have hidden laboratories in which men are working as hard as
> they can to develop bacteria for which no one else will be able to
> find a cure. " -- RICHARD P. FEYNMAN 1963
>
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:27:40 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >chrisv wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> >China wants to dominate the ...world. So they learned from history and
> >> >infected and spread the virus around the world so they can
> >> >...dominate the world.
> >> >
> >> >They are just watching you die so they can come in and takeover.
> >>
> >> Ridiculous nonsense, from a lying right-wing propagandist.
> >>
> >> It's inevitable that China will become the strongest country on Earth.
> >> Thanks to our internal strife, it's happening faster than they could
> >> have dreamed. It would be needless and stupid, to take such a risk as
> >> to "spread the virus around the world".
> >>
> >> It could have gotten out of control in China, too, you know. Duh.
> >
> >No, it was 'in control in China'.
> >
> >They took infected people in China,
> >put them on flights going everywhere..
> >except to other places in China.
> >
> >
> >This was a China Military operation!
> >
> >This is War!
> >
> >
> >
> >They are just watching you die so they can come in and takeover.
> >
> >
> >This is not a test.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> 'If you do not use (or claim to use) Linux exclusively you are deemed
> >> a "troll" by the herd.' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one
> >> can quote it lying)
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:

> and China made a virus in their lab to kill everybody in the world!

One way making sense of the misery, forcing people locked inside, for no
reason, vaccines, face masks etc, is that they are going release the
*kraken* over china, india, africa and probably russia too. It's likely
what is going on in background already. They released the kraken 2019
October, china god the message and released theirs. Fact is they can't
allow china, russia, india and africa to rise up removing the western
rich parasites from their fake money industry they created.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> As yous already know:
>
> "...we have hidden laboratories in which men are working as hard as
> they can to develop bacteria for which no one else will be able to
> find a cure. " -- RICHARD P. FEYNMAN 1963
>
> and China made a virus in their lab to kill everybody in the world!

of course their intended Target is...The United States.

China 'salted' the United States with their biological bomb.

without firing a single bullet...
all buildings and roads untouched.

Truth is, the United States has the highest death rate from the China Bomb..

what is the death rate in China?

23??

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > As yous already know:
> >
> > "...we have hidden laboratories in which men are working as hard as
> > they can to develop bacteria for which no one else will be able to
> > find a cure. " -- RICHARD P. FEYNMAN 1963

In today's language, they call it 'dangerous "gain-of-function" experiments'
designed to create...pandemics.

To end human life on ...Earth.

wat else are 'these people' got for us?

What else are they cooking up in the lab?

these mad scientists.

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> >
> > and China made a virus in their lab to kill everybody in the world!
>
> of course their intended Target is...The United States.
>
> China 'salted' the United States with their biological bomb.
>
> without firing a single bullet...
> all buildings and roads untouched.
>
> Truth is, the United States has the highest death rate from the China Bomb..
>
> what is the death rate in China?
>
> 23??
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote

> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 7/20/2021 5:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18-Jul-21 4:08 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>> How many planets are there in the universe?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> okay...according to fausi science..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here is a list of 8 planets I found on a google seach..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> so what is the name of the 9th planet?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you don't know the name then there are only 8 planets that
>> >>>> exist in our universe, the whole universe...all of outer space.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you believe in fausi science then you must believe there are
>> >>>> billions of planets in space...so what then is the name of the 9th
>> >>>> one?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I mean, you got ten fingers so you should be able to count
>> >>>> to ten.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> An entirely uninteresting question based on a disputed meaning of
>> >>> the word "planet".
>> >>>
>> >>> Sylvia.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, I'll re-phrase the question...so what then is the name of the
>> >> 9th planet from our sun?
>> >>
>> >> (these science guys all talk like fauci...)
>> >
>> >
>> > Truth is (nobdy wants to admit)...is, there is only one sun in the
>> > whole entire universe.
>>
>> What does Alice have to say about this?
>
> whodat?
>
>

The Starmaker wrote

> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 7/20/2021 5:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18-Jul-21 4:08 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>> How many planets are there in the universe?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> okay...according to fausi science..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here is a list of 8 planets I found on a google seach..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> so what is the name of the 9th planet?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you don't know the name then there are only 8 planets that
>> >>>> exist in our universe, the whole universe...all of outer space.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you believe in fausi science then you must believe there are
>> >>>> billions of planets in space...so what then is the name of the 9th
>> >>>> one?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I mean, you got ten fingers so you should be able to count
>> >>>> to ten.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> An entirely uninteresting question based on a disputed meaning of
>> >>> the word "planet".
>> >>>
>> >>> Sylvia.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, I'll re-phrase the question...so what then is the name of the
>> >> 9th planet from our sun?
>> >>
>> >> (these science guys all talk like fauci...)
>> >
>> >
>> > Truth is (nobdy wants to admit)...is, there is only one sun in the
>> > whole entire universe.
>>
>> What does Alice have to say about this?
>
> whodat?
>
>

The Starmaker wrote

> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 7/20/2021 5:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18-Jul-21 4:08 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>> How many planets are there in the universe?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> okay...according to fausi science..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here is a list of 8 planets I found on a google seach..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> so what is the name of the 9th planet?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you don't know the name then there are only 8 planets that
>> >>>> exist in our universe, the whole universe...all of outer space.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you believe in fausi science then you must believe there are
>> >>>> billions of planets in space...so what then is the name of the 9th
>> >>>> one?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I mean, you got ten fingers so you should be able to count
>> >>>> to ten.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> An entirely uninteresting question based on a disputed meaning of
>> >>> the word "planet".
>> >>>
>> >>> Sylvia.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, I'll re-phrase the question...so what then is the name of the
>> >> 9th planet from our sun?
>> >>
>> >> (these science guys all talk like fauci...)
>> >
>> >
>> > Truth is (nobdy wants to admit)...is, there is only one sun in the
>> > whole entire universe.
>>
>> What does Alice have to say about this?
>
> whodat?
>
>

A planet is in the Solar plane...
it is a plane-et...