Cursitor Doom <cd@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:1ve4eg9ovn0vfiqjb067p8u7msvjhvr9di@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 12:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
> <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 3:29:02 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:44:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >On 7/4/2021 10:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> >> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:19:08 +0000 (UTC),
>>> >> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Damn those cars are fast out of the hole. Didn't even have
>>> >>> to warm up the tires.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Skipped the pre-nonsense about sponsors...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> <https://youtu.be/ANV-XJ7bFNU?t=211>
>>> >>
>>> >> What's the point of alternating screaming acceleration with
>>> >> screaming braking? And then waiting an hour to get a stall
>>> >> and charge?
>>> >
>>> >Don't you drive a sports car, yourself?
>>> It's a hatchback with a real roof. 5 doors. Good for hauling 5
>>> people or one filing cabinet or a half dozen 10' 2x4s. AWD,
>>> great snow and ski car.
>>>
>>> 3.2l non-turbo V6 is good on mountains and freeways. And it can
>>> gas up anywhere in less time than it takes to squeege the
>>> windows.
>>>
>>> I don't see Teslas with roof racks or sheets of plywood on top.
>>> Might wreck the range.
>>>
>>> I strapped a futon on top and made it to Truckee on one tank of
>>> gas. Try that with a Tesla!
>>
>>That is true. A full tank of gas will definitely hamper a Tesla.
>>Any sort of trailer will do that for most cars.
>>
>>Wasn't it a Tesla that just set a new record for ascending Pike's
>>Peak in one class?
>
> Must have been a short stint. Very short.
>

Your father going up your mother's ass was a short stint, yet it
still produced the piece of shit now invading this group.

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 18:58:03 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

>Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:110494f5-10fe-4a67-9dbb-5763e8c217a0n@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 1:23:37 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>> Your constant stream of crude insults would be less ludicrous if
>>> you were right once in a while.
>>>
>>> How slomanesque.
>>
>> Now *this* is why Larkin comes to the party. He ain't here for
>> the hunting. He just likes the drama. Telenovela de la Larkin!
>>
>
> And he cannot figure out that he gets a stream of insults because he
>constantly spews streams of insults.

I never insult people over objective statements, even if I think they
are wrong. It's a discussion group.

I sometimes poke fun at nasty fatheads. Why not?

On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 3:07:01 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
> news:4b6b64e8-c5fe-4918...@googlegroups.com:
> > søndag den 4. juli 2021 kl. 21.56.59 UTC+2 skrev
> > gnuarm.del...@gmail.com:
> >> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 3:29:02 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:44:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >On 7/4/2021 10:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >> > >> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:19:08 +0000 (UTC),
> >> > >> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Damn those cars are fast out of the hole. Didn't even have
> >> > >>> to warm
> > up
> >> > >>> the tires.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Skipped the pre-nonsense about sponsors...
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> <https://youtu.be/ANV-XJ7bFNU?t=211>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What's the point of alternating screaming acceleration with
> >> > >> screamin
> > g
> >> > >> braking? And then waiting an hour to get a stall and charge?
> >> > >
> >> > >Don't you drive a sports car, yourself?
> >> > It's a hatchback with a real roof. 5 doors. Good for hauling 5
> >> > people
> >
> >> > or one filing cabinet or a half dozen 10' 2x4s. AWD, great snow
> >> > and ski car.
> >> >
> >> > 3.2l non-turbo V6 is good on mountains and freeways. And it can
> >> > gas up
> >
> >> > anywhere in less time than it takes to squeege the windows.
> >> >
> >> > I don't see Teslas with roof racks or sheets of plywood on top.
> >> > Might
> >
> >> > wreck the range.
> >> >
> >> > I strapped a futon on top and made it to Truckee on one tank of
> >> > gas. Try that with a Tesla!
> >> That is true. A full tank of gas will definitely hamper a Tesla.
> >> Any sort
> > of trailer will do that for most cars.
> >>
> >> Wasn't it a Tesla that just set a new record for ascending Pike's
> >> Peak in
> > one class?
> >
> > won it's class no records could be set it was a shortened course.
> > It was a modified car, slower than modified cars in other classes
> >
> > But the overall record is an all electric car, at altitude
> > electric has a big advantage and the course is only 20km
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> When I lived in Denver we called it "Pike's Weak" because they
> charged like $8 a pop to drive to it back in the wearly '90s.
>
> Mt Evans is higher and nobody there usually. Highest paved road in
> the nation. Drive right up to the peak.

One of the nice things about EVs is they get back a lot of the energy spent on the way up when they come back down.

I recall reading about a special huge truck that is an EV because it hauls rocks into a deep hole. The rocks more than make up for the losses so it starts with a full charge at the bottom on each trip.

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On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 3:11:20 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 18:58:03 +0000 (UTC),
> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>
> >Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >news:110494f5-10fe-4a67...@googlegroups.com:
> >
> >> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 1:23:37 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> >>> Your constant stream of crude insults would be less ludicrous if
> >>> you were right once in a while.
> >>>
> >>> How slomanesque.
> >>
> >> Now *this* is why Larkin comes to the party. He ain't here for
> >> the hunting. He just likes the drama. Telenovela de la Larkin!
> >>
> >
> > And he cannot figure out that he gets a stream of insults because he
> >constantly spews streams of insults.
> I never insult people over objective statements, even if I think they
> are wrong. It's a discussion group.
>
> I sometimes poke fun at nasty fatheads. Why not?

Nothing subjective about that, eh?

--

Rick C.

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On 7/4/2021 2:40 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:44:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On 7/4/2021 10:15 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:19:08 +0000 (UTC),
>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> Damn those cars are fast out of the hole. Didn't even have to warm up
>>>> the tires.
>>>>
>>>> Skipped the pre-nonsense about sponsors...
>>>>
>>>> <https://youtu.be/ANV-XJ7bFNU?t=211>
>>>
>>> What's the point of alternating screaming acceleration with screaming
>>> braking? And then waiting an hour to get a stall and charge?
>>
>> Don't you drive a sports car, yourself?
>>
>>> The Navy just cancelled their rail gun fiasco. Gunpowder wins. It took
>>> them half a billion dollars to figure that out.
>>>
>>> EMALS has been a lot of trouble too. Steam wins.
>>>
>>
>> They've sold a lot more EVs than rail guns
>
> I'm sure your EVs will eventually prevail, but the first generation of
> them seems well worth avoiding. In fact the first generation of
> *anything* is well worth avoiding IMV. But if people like yourself
> want to spend good money assisting in the development of this kind of
> vehicle, to get it to what *one day* will be an obvious first choice
> over ICE cars, then do so with my blessing. I may well switch to
> electric myself at some point in the future, but it's going to take a
> massive improvement in energy storage technology for me to make that
> switch and I can't see that happening in the next few years at least.

I just lug around a gas engine in addition to the battery pack, works
out OK in practice the car is still pretty quick (though not by Tesla
standards) and in the Northeast where stuff is pretty close together ~60
miles of electric range is plenty most days.

Five years and 100k miles on two Volts and only out-of-pocket repair
cost so far is a tail light bulb, $4.99 for two at Wal Mart. Oh and $800
for new tires for Volt #2 the stock "energy savers" are overpriced
easy-to-puncture junk they don't hold up after a couple winters here.

> I should add that one day, IF I do switch, I shall do so on my own
> terms: by putting the motors and batteries into classic cars. I do NOT
> want any computers controlling anything under any circumstances!
>

The first gen Volt had its fly-by-wire system tuned by some US company
(name escapes me) so when traction control etc. was switched off it was
all really off.

Second gen's computer was tuned by Bosch, so it's like Airbus the
stability and traction control is never really off when you hit the
button it's only "off." In any case it's a base trim and not fitted with
any of the sensors and other doo-dads that could make it self-driving
even in theory, just a backup cam.

I'm a fan of having nine airbags though I don't relish taking some 1980s
beater on the road with some of the psychopaths around here re-powered
or not

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:01dd43b6-199f-4b4b-bdec-8342d70c9198n@googlegroups.com:

> On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 3:07:01 PM UTC-4,
> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
>> news:4b6b64e8-c5fe-4918...@googlegroups.com:
>> > søndag den 4. juli 2021 kl. 21.56.59 UTC+2 skrev
>> > gnuarm.del...@gmail.com:
>> >> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 3:29:02 PM UTC-4, John Larkin
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:44:54 -0400, bitrex
>> >> > <us...@example.net> wrote:
>> >> > >On 7/4/2021 10:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
>> >> > >wrote:
>> >> > >> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 13:19:08 +0000 (UTC),
>> >> > >> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> Damn those cars are fast out of the hole. Didn't even
>> >> > >>> have to warm
>> > up
>> >> > >>> the tires.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Skipped the pre-nonsense about sponsors...
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> <https://youtu.be/ANV-XJ7bFNU?t=211>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> What's the point of alternating screaming acceleration
>> >> > >> with screamin
>> > g
>> >> > >> braking? And then waiting an hour to get a stall and
>> >> > >> charge?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Don't you drive a sports car, yourself?
>> >> > It's a hatchback with a real roof. 5 doors. Good for hauling
>> >> > 5 people
>> >
>> >> > or one filing cabinet or a half dozen 10' 2x4s. AWD, great
>> >> > snow and ski car.
>> >> >
>> >> > 3.2l non-turbo V6 is good on mountains and freeways. And it
>> >> > can gas up
>> >
>> >> > anywhere in less time than it takes to squeege the windows.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't see Teslas with roof racks or sheets of plywood on
>> >> > top. Might
>> >
>> >> > wreck the range.
>> >> >
>> >> > I strapped a futon on top and made it to Truckee on one tank
>> >> > of gas. Try that with a Tesla!
>> >> That is true. A full tank of gas will definitely hamper a
>> >> Tesla. Any sort
>> > of trailer will do that for most cars.
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't it a Tesla that just set a new record for ascending
>> >> Pike's Peak in
>> > one class?
>> >
>> > won it's class no records could be set it was a shortened
>> > course. It was a modified car, slower than modified cars in
>> > other classes
>> >
>> > But the overall record is an all electric car, at altitude
>> > electric has a big advantage and the course is only 20km
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> When I lived in Denver we called it "Pike's Weak" because they
>> charged like $8 a pop to drive to it back in the wearly '90s.
>>
>> Mt Evans is higher and nobody there usually. Highest paved road
>> in the nation. Drive right up to the peak.
>
> One of the nice things about EVs is they get back a lot of the
> energy spent on the way up when they come back down.
>
> I recall reading about a special huge truck that is an EV because
> it hauls rocks into a deep hole. The rocks more than make up for
> the losses so it starts with a full charge at the bottom on each
> trip.
>

Good thing it wasn't hauling them *out* of the hole. Proof that
there is no such animal as (practical work producing) perpetual
motion. Planets, moons, solar systems, galaxies, Pulsars, etc. can
spin 'forever' on the human scale of things but we need a small
device. I should have a car that runs on an "engine" smaller than a
V6 that runs for 13 decades on a gallon of water providing a clean,
practically free energy source.

On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 5:21:57 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:01dd43b6-199f-4b4b...@googlegroups.com:
> > I recall reading about a special huge truck that is an EV because
> > it hauls rocks into a deep hole. The rocks more than make up for
> > the losses so it starts with a full charge at the bottom on each
> > trip.
> >
> Good thing it wasn't hauling them *out* of the hole. Proof that
> there is no such animal as (practical work producing) perpetual
> motion. Planets, moons, solar systems, galaxies, Pulsars, etc. can
> spin 'forever' on the human scale of things but we need a small
> device. I should have a car that runs on an "engine" smaller than a
> V6 that runs for 13 decades on a gallon of water providing a clean,
> practically free energy source.

Why water, such a precious commodity? How about old tires? That's an energy source we should learn to harness!

--

Rick C.

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