On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 7:15:21 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 8/31/2021 1:35 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 8/31/2021 10:09 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:44:22 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 8/30/2021 11:08 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 10:18:00 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On 8/29/2021 2:44 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> it can slow down by gravity and motion's aether factor
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> if there is time dilation there is the possibility for
> >>>>>> its rate to speed back up... or go back to not dilated...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Time had its initial conditions after the BB...
> >>> Time existed before the BB...
> >>
> >> No. It was an absolute beginning...
> >> The physical was yet to be.
> >> Big Bang Zero.
> >>
> >
> > Did God create the BB? If so, can God tell time? Or break events apart
> > and count them?
> To get really deep, if the chicken came first, was it the male or
> female? A hen or a rooster?

So science doesn't have an answer?
What do you know?
Science isn't living up to its claims...

Mitchell Raemsch

SolomonW wrote:

>>> Then say so. Don't act like you know something when you don't.
>>> For instance, that will make me stop reading your posts.
>>
>> The clock, aka Entropy cannot exists, according to the model, however,
>> people rather imply the existence of Math
>
> We do not imply the maths. We adopt the maths situation to the
> situation,
> e.g. when Einstein found in relativity that the existing maths was not
> working, he dropped it and adopted tensor calculus and Riemannian
> geometry.

the math bubba talks about has nothing to do with your "we adopt the
math". That math isn't care on what you do, at all.

On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 5:55:00 AM UTC-7, nntp wrote:
> SolomonW wrote:
>
> >>> Then say so. Don't act like you know something when you don't.
> >>> For instance, that will make me stop reading your posts.
> >>
> >> The clock, aka Entropy cannot exists, according to the model, however,
> >> people rather imply the existence of Math
> >
> > We do not imply the maths. We adopt the maths situation to the
> > situation,
> > e.g. when Einstein found in relativity that the existing maths was not
> > working, he dropped it and adopted tensor calculus and Riemannian
> > geometry.
> the math bubba talks about has nothing to do with your "we adopt the
> math". That math isn't care on what you do, at all.

There was math before man's own mind.
Back at the BB initial condition there was mathematical
physics.. does that not imply God's Mind...?

Mitchell Raemsch

On 9/2/2021 10:25 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 5:55:00 AM UTC-7, nntp wrote:
>> SolomonW wrote:
>>
>>>>> Then say so. Don't act like you know something when you don't.
>>>>> For instance, that will make me stop reading your posts.
>>>>
>>>> The clock, aka Entropy cannot exists, according to the model, however,
>>>> people rather imply the existence of Math
>>>
>>> We do not imply the maths. We adopt the maths situation to the
>>> situation,
>>> e.g. when Einstein found in relativity that the existing maths was not
>>> working, he dropped it and adopted tensor calculus and Riemannian
>>> geometry.
>> the math bubba talks about has nothing to do with your "we adopt the
>> math". That math isn't care on what you do, at all.
>
> There was math before man's own mind.
> Back at the BB initial condition there was mathematical
> physics.. does that not imply God's Mind...?

God existed before the BB, no?

On 9/1/2021 6:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:05:56 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 8/31/2021 5:23 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 1:31:04 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 8/30/2021 8:44 PM, Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>>> On 8/30/21 2:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> Time existed before the BB...
>>>>>
>>>>> Not in our best cosmological models.
>>>>>
>>>>> What makes you think this?
>>>> How did something come from nothing?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I think that time existed before the BB, because I think that our
>>>> universe is contained within a black hole that exists in our parent
>>>
>>> How can time exist at a BH where time does not happen?
>>> You are suggesting that a singularity that by definition
>>> has no time still has time?
>> If being inside of a BH is akin to being in the eye of a massive
>> hurricane, things are relatively peaceful, and you can tap your toes and
>> create a "beat", that creates a sense of "time". The eye wall can be
>> akin to the event horizon?
>>
>> Just thinking out loud here, sorry I am moving closer to kookville central!
>>
>> ;^o
>
> You said there would be time before a BH...
> but BH are timeless.

A hypothetical entity inside of a BH can still tap its fingers together
in a rhythmic fashion. To create a sense of time for itself...

On Thursday, 2 September 2021 at 21:17:14 UTC+2, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 9/1/2021 6:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:05:56 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >> On 8/31/2021 5:23 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 1:31:04 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>> On 8/30/2021 8:44 PM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> >>>>> On 8/30/21 2:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>> Time existed before the BB...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not in our best cosmological models.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What makes you think this?
> >>>> How did something come from nothing?
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I think that time existed before the BB, because I think that our
> >>>> universe is contained within a black hole that exists in our parent
> >>>
> >>> How can time exist at a BH where time does not happen?
> >>> You are suggesting that a singularity that by definition
> >>> has no time still has time?
> >> If being inside of a BH is akin to being in the eye of a massive
> >> hurricane, things are relatively peaceful, and you can tap your toes and
> >> create a "beat", that creates a sense of "time". The eye wall can be
> >> akin to the event horizon?
> >>
> >> Just thinking out loud here, sorry I am moving closer to kookville central!
> >>
> >> ;^o
> >
> > You said there would be time before a BH...
> > but BH are timeless.
> A hypothetical entity inside of a BH can still tap its fingers together
> in a rhythmic fashion. To create a sense of time for itself...

And he (or she) can wave his/her lightsaber.

On 9/2/2021 12:46 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 2 September 2021 at 21:17:14 UTC+2, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 9/1/2021 6:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:05:56 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 8/31/2021 5:23 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 1:31:04 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/30/2021 8:44 PM, Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/30/21 2:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>> Time existed before the BB...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not in our best cosmological models.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What makes you think this?
>>>>>> How did something come from nothing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I think that time existed before the BB, because I think that our
>>>>>> universe is contained within a black hole that exists in our parent
>>>>>
>>>>> How can time exist at a BH where time does not happen?
>>>>> You are suggesting that a singularity that by definition
>>>>> has no time still has time?
>>>> If being inside of a BH is akin to being in the eye of a massive
>>>> hurricane, things are relatively peaceful, and you can tap your toes and
>>>> create a "beat", that creates a sense of "time". The eye wall can be
>>>> akin to the event horizon?
>>>>
>>>> Just thinking out loud here, sorry I am moving closer to kookville central!
>>>>
>>>> ;^o
>>>
>>> You said there would be time before a BH...
>>> but BH are timeless.
>> A hypothetical entity inside of a BH can still tap its fingers together
>> in a rhythmic fashion. To create a sense of time for itself...
>
> And he (or she) can wave his/her lightsaber.
>

LOL! Well, I cannot prove that an entity falling into a black hole, can
think of a song or not. Think of a beat. That right there is creating a
sense of time for said entity. Anyway, wrt lightsabers check out these
fan made scenes: They are actually pretty good! ;^)

https://youtu.be/Ey68aMOV9gc

https://youtu.be/to2SMng4u1k

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> The clock, aka Entropy cannot exists, according to the model,
>> >> however,
>> >> people rather imply the existence of Math
>> >
>> > We do not imply the maths. We adopt the maths situation to the
>> > situation,
>> > e.g. when Einstein found in relativity that the existing maths was
>> > not working, he dropped it and adopted tensor calculus and Riemannian
>> > geometry.
>> the math bubba talks about has nothing to do with your "we adopt the
>> math". That math isn't care on what you do, at all.
>
> There was math before man's own mind.
> Back at the BB initial condition there was mathematical physics.. does
> that not imply God's Mind...?

absolutely, another good and sober observation. I think it does, in a way
or another or both. I'm not an expert.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 12:54:57 -0000 (UTC), nntp wrote:

> That math isn't care on what you do, at all.

This does not make sense. Maths is a tool. It does not think, does a
carpenters hammer care?

SolomonW wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 12:54:57 -0000 (UTC), nntp wrote:
>
>> That math isn't care on what you do, at all.
>
> This does not make sense. Maths is a tool. It does not think, does a
> carpenters hammer care?

What *YOU* use are to say are "tools". The underlining Math and Logic
isn't care a bit. Are you stupid? Think. You don't know physics
whatsoever.

On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 6:48:53 AM UTC-7, NaCl wrote:
> SolomonW wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 12:54:57 -0000 (UTC), nntp wrote:
> >
> >> That math isn't care on what you do, at all.
> >
> > This does not make sense. Maths is a tool. It does not think, does a
> > carpenters hammer care?
> What *YOU* use are to say are "tools". The underlining Math and Logic
> isn't care a bit. Are you stupid? Think. You don't know physics
> whatsoever.

There is a fast rate that gravity and motion dilate.

On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:48:50 -0000 (UTC), NaCl wrote:

> SolomonW wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 12:54:57 -0000 (UTC), nntp wrote:
>>
>>> That math isn't care on what you do, at all.
>>
>> This does not make sense. Maths is a tool. It does not think, does a
>> carpenters hammer care?
>
> What *YOU* use are to say are "tools". The underlining Math and Logic
> isn't care a bit. Are you stupid? Think. You don't know physics
> whatsoever.

Another professional fool, killfile

SolomonW wrote:

>>> This does not make sense. Maths is a tool. It does not think, does a
>>> carpenters hammer care?
>>
>> What *YOU* use are to say are "tools". The underlining Math and Logic
>> isn't care a bit. Are you stupid? Think. You don't know physics
>> whatsoever.
>
> Another professional fool, killfile

cretin, you'll never make your "math"-tool show 1+1=3. Idiot. And now
piss off.

On 9/5/2021 8:38 AM, C10H19OH wrote:
> SolomonW wrote:
>
>>>> This does not make sense. Maths is a tool. It does not think, does a
>>>> carpenters hammer care?
>>>
>>> What *YOU* use are to say are "tools". The underlining Math and Logic
>>> isn't care a bit. Are you stupid? Think. You don't know physics
>>> whatsoever.
>>
>> Another professional fool, killfile
>
> cretin, you'll never make your "math"-tool show 1+1=3. Idiot. And now
> piss off.
>

Nymshifter, why the chemical nyms now? Did you run out of fake people nyms?