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* correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
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| +* Cretin Richard ButtHertz tries to help fellow cretin Rober WinnDono.
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| ||`- Imbecile Richard Hertz keeps basking in his errorsDono.
| |+- Re: Cretin Richard ButtHertz tries to help fellow cretin Rober WinnRobert Winn
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|  +* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
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|  `* Re: correct equations for relativityRichard Hertz
|   `- Re: correct equations for relativityRichard Hertz
+* Re: correct equations for relativityOdd Bodkin
|`* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
| `* Re: correct equations for relativityOdd Bodkin
|  `* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
|   `* Re: correct equations for relativityOdd Bodkin
|    `* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
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+* Unemployed welder Robert Winn inserts foot in mouthDono.
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| `* Re: Unemployed welder Robert Winn inserts foot in mouthMichael Moroney
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|   `* Re: Unemployed welder Robert Winn inserts foot in mouthMichael Moroney
|    +* Re: Unemployed welder Robert Winn inserts foot in mouthRobert Winn
|    |`- Re: Unemployed welder Robert Winn inserts foot in mouthMichael Moroney
|    `- Re: Unemployed welder Robert Winn inserts foot in mouthPython
+* Re: correct equations for relativitySylvia Else
|`* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
| +* Re: correct equations for relativitySylvia Else
| |+- Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
| |+* Re: correct equations for relativityRichard Hertz
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| |`* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
| | `* Re: correct equations for relativityPython
| |  `* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
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| |    `* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
| |     `- Re: correct equations for relativityPython
| `* Re: correct equations for relativityOdd Bodkin
|  +* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
|  |`- Re: correct equations for relativityOdd Bodkin
|  `* Re: correct equations for relativityDirk Van de moortel
|   `* Re: correct equations for relativityRobert Winn
|    `- Re: correct equations for relativityOdd Bodkin
+- Re: correct equations for relativitycarl eto
`* Re: correct equations for relativitycarl eto
 `* Re: correct equations for relativityTom Roberts
  `* Re: correct equations for relativityMaciej Wozniak
   `- Re: correct equations for relativityBranimir Maksimovic

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Re: correct equations for relativity

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 by: carl eto - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 22:05 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:51:55 AM UTC-7, Robert Winn wrote:
> x'=x-vt
> y'=y
> z'=z
> t'=t-vx/c^2
>
> inverse equations
>
> x = x' - v't'
>
> v't' = -vt
>
> x = x' + vt
> y = y'
> z = z'
> t = t' + vx/c^2
>
> So the equations are in the form scientists say they insist on. t is the time of a clock in S, t' is the time of a clock in S'. The equations show reality as it actually exists. If a pilot in an airplane has a clock that is slower than a clock on the ground, as Einstein proposed, then t' is the time of the clock in the airplane, and v' is the speed of the airplane according to the time of the clock in the airplane that shows t'. Since there is no length contraction in the Galilean transformation equations, the distance the airplane travels is the same as observed from either frame of reference. This enables us to say
>
> x = x' - v't'
> ct = ct' - v't'
> ct = ct' +vt
> t = t' + vt/c
> t = t' + vct/c^2
> t = t' + vx/c^2
>
> which is the same equation we got for the times using
>
> x'=x-vt
>
> ct' = ct -vt
> t' = t - vt/c
> t' = t - vx/c^2

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 by: carl eto - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 22:11 UTC

t = t' + vx/c^2

v = 100 m/s, x = 1000 m

The relativistic time is within the uncertainty (10^4s). GPS (Global Positioning System) is used to justify the measurement of the velocity of light but the GPS is produced by the intensity differences of the satellites' radio signals not by the velocity of the radio signals since the electrons of the GPS system cannot measure the time difference of radio waves propagating at the velocity of light. The GPS is similar to the FCC Pirate radio station capture using triangularization.

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 by: Tom Roberts - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 16:21 UTC

On 9/24/21 5:11 PM, carl eto wrote:
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> t = t' + vx/c^2
>
> v = 100 m/s, x = 1000 m
>
> The relativistic time is within the uncertainty (10^4s). GPS (Global Positioning System) is used to justify the measurement of the velocity of light but the GPS is produced by the intensity differences of the satellites' radio signals not by the velocity of the radio signals since the electrons of the GPS system cannot measure the time difference of radio waves propagating at the velocity of light. The GPS is similar to the FCC Pirate radio station capture using triangularization.

That is complete nonsense, and everything you said is flat-out wrong.

You REALLY should learn something about the subject before attempting to
write about it.

Tom Roberts

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:02 UTC

On Saturday, 25 September 2021 at 18:21:42 UTC+2, tjrob137 wrote:
> On 9/24/21 5:11 PM, carl eto wrote:
> >
> > t = t' + vx/c^2
> >
> > v = 100 m/s, x = 1000 m
> >
> > The relativistic time is within the uncertainty (10^4s). GPS (Global Positioning System) is used to justify the measurement of the velocity of light but the GPS is produced by the intensity differences of the satellites' radio signals not by the velocity of the radio signals since the electrons of the GPS system cannot measure the time difference of radio waves propagating at the velocity of light. The GPS is similar to the FCC Pirate radio station capture using triangularization.
> That is complete nonsense, and everything you said is flat-out wrong.
>
> You REALLY should learn something about the subject before attempting to
> write about it.

And the first thing you should learn is that you're FORCED
to THE BEST WAY, which is, of course, the way of THE
COMMUNITY OF PHYSICISTS.

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 by: Branimir Maksimovic - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:13 UTC

On 2021-09-25, Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And the first thing you should learn is that you're FORCED
> to THE BEST WAY, which is, of course, the way of THE
> COMMUNITY OF PHYSICISTS.
>
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