JanPB wrote:

>> > Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
>> > brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.
>> fact is that this covid plandemic was started by Drumpth and Fraudci.
>
> It was started in China in September 2019. Fauci is partly to blame,
> yes. Trump lost in 2020 mostly due to covid, so I don't see how a person
> in his shoes would be interested in generating a pandemic.

you talk discussion, there are no excess deaths in 2019 and 20, other
than the normal flu season deaths. No flu in 2020, pay attention. You
have no idea how those things are propagating, if any, through air and
air moisture, disintegrated in microseconds by the Oxygen.

>> Two years latter now, nobody can stop the fraud. The fraud has to be
>> bigger in order to be stopped.
>
> What fraud?

ohh boy. The vaccines are the fraud, you moon landing believer.

Richard Hertz wrote:

> For relativists like you, there are shorter dogmas:
>
> t' = t/γ , and muons prove it.
> x' = γ. (x-vt), still not proven but be patient.

NASA FUTURE WARFARE DOCUMENT
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2WAiEJg2KUHR/

Am 27.10.2021 um 12:47 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> Am 24.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 20.10.2021 um 12:16 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Am 29.09.2021 um 14:39 schrieb Python:
>>>>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Whoever wrote 'Principia' was most likely not Newton.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a similar phenomenon as Shakespeare. He wrote simply too many
>>>>>>>> books in too few years and too early in life. So, possibly somethings
>>>>>>>> wrong with the entire story...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *LOL*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is entirely possible, that the literature written by Shakespeare was
>>>>>> in fact written by others and only presented as works of Shakespeare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have this problem of authorship in many cases :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is this piece of art, music, science or literature actually produced by
>>>>>> the famed creator himself (personally)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did the Beatles (for instance) actually wrote their songs themselves?
>>>>>> Did they play the intruments on the recordings and do we hear their real
>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How could we possibly know?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless you hear a musician life and unplugged, you cannot possibly know,
>>>> if he can play any music at all.
>>>>
>>>> The question is ubiquitious in all sorts of arts.
>>>>
>>>> So: unless proven otherwise, you should assume, the product of art,
>>>> attributed to a person or set of person, is produced by artificial
>>>> intelligence.
>>>
>>> No you should not assume that.
>>>
>>> Now some crazy folks might operate like this, assuming the most outlier
>>> case out of some need for emotional protection, but that’s a mental
>>> illness.
>>>
>>> Normal people do not assume the most unlikely case.
>>
>>
>> You misunderstood my comment.
>>
>> I meant: if you assume the worst case as likely, you will automatically
>> cover all cases, which are not so severe.
>
> It is still nuts to treat extremely unlikely cases as likely. It’s a
> self-protection mechanism to shield against surprise betrayals and
> unexpected pain, but it’s not normal behavior.
>
> Normal people do not walk around city streets thinking that meteorite
> strikes or nuclear catastrophes are likely.

I don't think so neither.

But you simply don't know, how far ai is developed already unrecognised
in secret 'black-ops' projects.

Certain estimates suggest, that hidden technology is thirty years in
advance of publicly available technology.

Since even the technology you could buy on e-bay is impressive, hidden
technology could already be a monster.

TH

Am 27.10.2021 um 10:41 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
> Op 27-okt.-2021 om 09:16 schreef Thomas Heger:
>> Am 26.10.2021 um 12:36 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
>>> Op 24-okt.-2021 om 10:27 schreef Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am 20.10.2021 um 16:20 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> They should have forbidden such ridiculous paper, but Drude (Annalen
>>>>>> Chief Editor) and others had an agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course they had an agenda: to annoy the living shit out
>>>>> of a bunch of future retired engineers with nothing better
>>>>> to do than spend the rest of their miserable days on some
>>>>> obscure soapbox forum serving as a stage for village idiots.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can extend this (true) observation a bit and include freshmen in
>>>> physics, too.
>>>
>>> In any discipline, there's freshmen of many kinds.
>>> When taken by surprise, one kind learns and adjusts,
>>> where another kind freaks, drops out, and never recovers.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> But the students rely on the integrity of their teachers.
>>
>> And if the former freshmen find out (late in life), that what they
>> have learned was an elaborated to hoax, they could eventually freak out.
>
> Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
> brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.

I personally think, that the really good achievements of a scientist
come late in life, because they require a lot of learning and experience.

So: the students start with blind believe in what their teacher say.

Later they learn on their own and aquirre experience in their work.

Once they become teachers themselves, they could eventually question,
what they had been told.

Later the scientists gets retired.

If a then older scientists finds out, that what they have learned was
not meant seriously, they can eventually freak out, because at that age,
it is not possible to change the course of the own life.

TH

Op 28-okt.-2021 om 07:11 schreef Thomas Heger:
> Am 27.10.2021 um 10:41 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
>> Op 27-okt.-2021 om 09:16 schreef Thomas Heger:
>>> Am 26.10.2021 um 12:36 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
>>>> Op 24-okt.-2021 om 10:27 schreef Thomas Heger:
>>>>> Am 20.10.2021 um 16:20 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> They should have forbidden such ridiculous paper, but Drude (Annalen
>>>>>>> Chief Editor) and others had an agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course they had an agenda: to annoy the living shit out
>>>>>> of a bunch of future retired engineers with nothing better
>>>>>> to do than spend the rest of their miserable days on some
>>>>>> obscure soapbox forum serving as a stage for village idiots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can extend this (true) observation a bit and include freshmen in
>>>>> physics, too.
>>>>
>>>> In any discipline, there's freshmen of many kinds.
>>>> When taken by surprise, one kind learns and adjusts,
>>>> where another kind freaks, drops out, and never recovers.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure.
>>>
>>> But the students rely on the integrity of their teachers.
>>>
>>> And if the former freshmen find out (late in life), that what they
>>> have learned was an elaborated to hoax, they could eventually freak out.
>>
>> Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
>> brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.
>
>
> I personally think, that the really good achievements of a scientist
> come late in life, because they require a lot of learning and experience.
>
> So: the students start with blind believe in what their teacher say.
>
> Later they learn on their own and aquirre experience in their work.
>
> Once they become teachers themselves, they could eventually question,
> what they had been told.
>
> Later the scientists gets retired.
>
> If a then older scientists finds out, that what they have learned was
> not meant seriously, they can eventually freak out, because at that age,
> it is not possible to change the course of the own life.

So, in short, you freaked out because you finally realised
that as a student, you had started with blind belief in what
your teachers said?

Dirk Vdm

>
>
> TH

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 27.10.2021 um 12:47 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>> Am 24.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>>> Am 20.10.2021 um 12:16 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>>>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 29.09.2021 um 14:39 schrieb Python:
>>>>>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Whoever wrote 'Principia' was most likely not Newton.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a similar phenomenon as Shakespeare. He wrote simply too many
>>>>>>>>> books in too few years and too early in life. So, possibly somethings
>>>>>>>>> wrong with the entire story...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *LOL*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is entirely possible, that the literature written by Shakespeare was
>>>>>>> in fact written by others and only presented as works of Shakespeare.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have this problem of authorship in many cases :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is this piece of art, music, science or literature actually produced by
>>>>>>> the famed creator himself (personally)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did the Beatles (for instance) actually wrote their songs themselves?
>>>>>>> Did they play the intruments on the recordings and do we hear their real
>>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How could we possibly know?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you hear a musician life and unplugged, you cannot possibly know,
>>>>> if he can play any music at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is ubiquitious in all sorts of arts.
>>>>>
>>>>> So: unless proven otherwise, you should assume, the product of art,
>>>>> attributed to a person or set of person, is produced by artificial
>>>>> intelligence.
>>>>
>>>> No you should not assume that.
>>>>
>>>> Now some crazy folks might operate like this, assuming the most outlier
>>>> case out of some need for emotional protection, but that’s a mental
>>>> illness.
>>>>
>>>> Normal people do not assume the most unlikely case.
>>>
>>>
>>> You misunderstood my comment.
>>>
>>> I meant: if you assume the worst case as likely, you will automatically
>>> cover all cases, which are not so severe.
>>
>> It is still nuts to treat extremely unlikely cases as likely. It’s a
>> self-protection mechanism to shield against surprise betrayals and
>> unexpected pain, but it’s not normal behavior.
>>
>> Normal people do not walk around city streets thinking that meteorite
>> strikes or nuclear catastrophes are likely.
>
> I don't think so neither.
>
> But you simply don't know, how far ai is developed already unrecognised
> in secret 'black-ops' projects.
>
> Certain estimates suggest, that hidden technology is thirty years in
> advance of publicly available technology.
>
> Since even the technology you could buy on e-bay is impressive, hidden
> technology could already be a monster.

Could conceivably =\= probably

>
>
> TH
>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Am 28.10.2021 um 12:06 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> Am 27.10.2021 um 12:47 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 24.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Am 20.10.2021 um 12:16 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>>>>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am 29.09.2021 um 14:39 schrieb Python:
>>>>>>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> Whoever wrote 'Principia' was most likely not Newton.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a similar phenomenon as Shakespeare. He wrote simply too many
>>>>>>>>>> books in too few years and too early in life. So, possibly somethings
>>>>>>>>>> wrong with the entire story...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *LOL*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is entirely possible, that the literature written by Shakespeare was
>>>>>>>> in fact written by others and only presented as works of Shakespeare.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have this problem of authorship in many cases :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is this piece of art, music, science or literature actually produced by
>>>>>>>> the famed creator himself (personally)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did the Beatles (for instance) actually wrote their songs themselves?
>>>>>>>> Did they play the intruments on the recordings and do we hear their real
>>>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How could we possibly know?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you hear a musician life and unplugged, you cannot possibly know,
>>>>>> if he can play any music at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The question is ubiquitious in all sorts of arts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So: unless proven otherwise, you should assume, the product of art,
>>>>>> attributed to a person or set of person, is produced by artificial
>>>>>> intelligence.
>>>>>
>>>>> No you should not assume that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now some crazy folks might operate like this, assuming the most outlier
>>>>> case out of some need for emotional protection, but that’s a mental
>>>>> illness.
>>>>>
>>>>> Normal people do not assume the most unlikely case.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You misunderstood my comment.
>>>>
>>>> I meant: if you assume the worst case as likely, you will automatically
>>>> cover all cases, which are not so severe.
>>>
>>> It is still nuts to treat extremely unlikely cases as likely. It’s a
>>> self-protection mechanism to shield against surprise betrayals and
>>> unexpected pain, but it’s not normal behavior.
>>>
>>> Normal people do not walk around city streets thinking that meteorite
>>> strikes or nuclear catastrophes are likely.
>>
>> I don't think so neither.
>>
>> But you simply don't know, how far ai is developed already unrecognised
>> in secret 'black-ops' projects.
>>
>> Certain estimates suggest, that hidden technology is thirty years in
>> advance of publicly available technology.
>>
>> Since even the technology you could buy on e-bay is impressive, hidden
>> technology could already be a monster.
>
> Could conceivably =\= probably
>

So, lets talk about technological probabilities.

The 'defence' budget of the US is just enormous.

For large amounts of money you can buy a lot of stuff.

Supposed you had infinite amounts of money at your disposal: wouldn't
you buy the better stuff, which is slightly ahead of the devices, which
common mortal could buy?

Certainly you would. You could even buy the entire factory and also the
the entire population of scientists and inventors, if you decide to do so.

You could buy computers, which can fill entire buildings or even entire
cities, if that's what you want.

Since you are not so different to the common mortals, who run your
country, you can safely assume, they think like you and have already
bought the biggest toys imaginable.

TH
>

Am 28.10.2021 um 10:54 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
ut.
>>>
>>> Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
>>> brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.

I want to mention, that I had done something similar to what he did, but
with a different method.

My result:

Einstein's text 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' is so
unbelievable crappy, that it would have been better to forget that a
century ago.

>>
>> I personally think, that the really good achievements of a scientist
>> come late in life, because they require a lot of learning and experience.
>>
>> So: the students start with blind believe in what their teacher say.
>>
>> Later they learn on their own and aquirre experience in their work.
>>
>> Once they become teachers themselves, they could eventually question,
>> what they had been told.
>>
>> Later the scientists gets retired.
>>
>> If a then older scientists finds out, that what they have learned was
>> not meant seriously, they can eventually freak out, because at that
>> age, it is not possible to change the course of the own life.
>
> So, in short, you freaked out because you finally realised
> that as a student, you had started with blind belief in what
> your teachers said?
>

No, because I'm not a physicist, but an enigineer.

Engineers do not believe in anything, which they have not built on their
own and which functions as desired.

TH

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 10:59:23 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:

> ...I'm not a physicist, but an enigineer.

Where I worked we never gave the engineers coffee breaks because it took too long to re-train them... :>)

On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 08:10:09 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 10:59:23 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> > ...I'm not a physicist, but an enigineer.
>
> Where I worked we never gave the engineers coffee breaks because it took too long to re-train them... :>)

Engineers are simple folk. It's hard for them to understand
that they're FORCED to make unusable stuff, because
some fanatic morons have announced it proper.

Op 29-okt.-2021 om 07:59 schreef Thomas Heger:
> Am 28.10.2021 um 10:54 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
>  ut.
>>>>
>>>> Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
>>>> brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.
>
>
> I want to mention, that I had done something similar to what he did, but
> with a different method.

No surprise there.

Dirk Vdm

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

>
> So, lets talk about technological probabilities.
>
> The 'defence' budget of the US is just enormous.

Yes it is.

>
> For large amounts of money you can buy a lot of stuff.

Yes you can.

>
> Supposed you had infinite amounts of money at your disposal: wouldn't
> you buy the better stuff, which is slightly ahead of the devices, which
> common mortal could buy?

Well, first of all, the budget is large but not infinite. A ship that has
even ordinary technology still will consume a lot of your funds.

Secondly, the technology has to actually exist to buy it. It’s not like the
Army is buying technology from an advanced alien species. And even the
advanced technology the military is TRYING to make doesn’t actually work.

>
> Certainly you would. You could even buy the entire factory and also the
> the entire population of scientists and inventors, if you decide to do so.

Thirdly, the government cannot just purchase private companies, though they
can contract with them. The military does not own Lockheed Martin or
General Dynamics.

>
> You could buy computers, which can fill entire buildings or even entire
> cities, if that's what you want.

Fourthly, there’s no point to building a computer center the size of a
city, though there are server farms that are building-sized. The biggest
ones are owned by private companies like Amazon.

>
> Since you are not so different to the common mortals, who run your
> country, you can safely assume, they think like you and have already
> bought the biggest toys imaginable.

Available, not imaginable.

The thing is, you believe the things you *imagine* have happened.

>
>
> TH
>>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

>>
>
> No, because I'm not a physicist, but an enigineer.

As seems to be the case with most folks on the loony side here. I’m not
sure why retired engineers on the loony side are attracted to this forum.

>
> Engineers do not believe in anything, which they have not built on their
> own and which functions as desired.

Well, that might be why those who think that way are ineducable.

>
> TH
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 11:15:25 AM UTC-7, Addy Nix wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> >> > Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
> >> > brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.
> >> fact is that this covid plandemic was started by Drumpth and Fraudci.
> >
> > It was started in China in September 2019. Fauci is partly to blame,
> > yes. Trump lost in 2020 mostly due to covid, so I don't see how a person
> > in his shoes would be interested in generating a pandemic.
> you talk discussion, there are no excess deaths in 2019 and 20, other
> than the normal flu season deaths. No flu in 2020, pay attention. You
> have no idea how those things are propagating, if any, through air and
> air moisture, disintegrated in microseconds by the Oxygen.

Is the above paragraph supposed to have a content?

> >> Two years latter now, nobody can stop the fraud. The fraud has to be
> >> bigger in order to be stopped.
> >
> > What fraud?
> ohh boy. The vaccines are the fraud, you moon landing believer.

I have nothing to tell a cretin who thinks the 1969 Moon landing was staged.
The sheer degree of the ignorance of basic facts of life just takes
one's breath away.

--
Jan

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 10:59:23 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 28.10.2021 um 10:54 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
> ut.
> >>>
> >>> Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
> >>> brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.
> I want to mention, that I had done something similar to what he did, but
> with a different method.
>
> My result:
>
> Einstein's text 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' is so
> unbelievable crappy, that it would have been better to forget that a
> century ago.

No, it's a very good paper and you don't understand it. That's one
reason (among many) that Einstein is remembered as an excellent
physicist and you are not.

> Engineers do not believe in anything, which they have not built on their
> own and which functions as desired.

Non-sequitur. Physics is physics and engineering is engineering.
If you don't like physics, just leave it to others.

--
Jan

On Saturday, 30 October 2021 at 01:25:56 UTC+2, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 10:59:23 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > Am 28.10.2021 um 10:54 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
> > ut.
> > >>>
> > >>> Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
> > >>> brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.
> > I want to mention, that I had done something similar to what he did, but
> > with a different method.
> >
> > My result:
> >
> > Einstein's text 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' is so
> > unbelievable crappy, that it would have been better to forget that a
> > century ago.
> No, it's a very good paper and you don't understand it. That's one
> reason (among many) that Einstein is remembered as an excellent
> physicist and you are not.

In the meantime in the real world, however, GPS clocks
keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious clocks always
did.

Am 29.10.2021 um 15:46 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> So, lets talk about technological probabilities.
>>
>> The 'defence' budget of the US is just enormous.
>
> Yes it is.
>
>>
>> For large amounts of money you can buy a lot of stuff.
>
> Yes you can.
>
>>
>> Supposed you had infinite amounts of money at your disposal: wouldn't
>> you buy the better stuff, which is slightly ahead of the devices, which
>> common mortal could buy?
>
> Well, first of all, the budget is large but not infinite. A ship that has
> even ordinary technology still will consume a lot of your funds.

Sure. But I wanted to exaggerate a bit to make the principle more obvious.

the principle is:

we are safe to assume, that the government does not tell everything and
that they have more 'aces in their sleeves' than we can imagine.

They have an enormous amount of funds, personal, knowledge and other
recources, which can eventually be the reason for much higher developed
technology, to which only the government has access.

This is so likely, that we can safely assume it.

How far this hidden sector had developed things is - of course - a
secret, hence we can only speculate.

But I would think, that two or three decades ahead of commonly available
technology is imho a good guess.

TH

> Secondly, the technology has to actually exist to buy it. It’s not like the
> Army is buying technology from an advanced alien species. And even the
> advanced technology the military is TRYING to make doesn’t actually work.
>
>>
>> Certainly you would. You could even buy the entire factory and also the
>> the entire population of scientists and inventors, if you decide to do so.
>
> Thirdly, the government cannot just purchase private companies, though they
> can contract with them. The military does not own Lockheed Martin or
> General Dynamics.
>
>>
>> You could buy computers, which can fill entire buildings or even entire
>> cities, if that's what you want.
>
> Fourthly, there’s no point to building a computer center the size of a
> city, though there are server farms that are building-sized. The biggest
> ones are owned by private companies like Amazon.
>
>>
>> Since you are not so different to the common mortals, who run your
>> country, you can safely assume, they think like you and have already
>> bought the biggest toys imaginable.
>
> Available, not imaginable.
>
> The thing is, you believe the things you *imagine* have happened.
>
>>
>>
>> TH
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Am 30.10.2021 um 01:25 schrieb JanPB:
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 10:59:23 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 28.10.2021 um 10:54 schrieb Dirk Van de moortel:
>> ut.
>>>>>
>>>>> Late in life is when strange things can start taking place in our
>>>>> brains. Look at what happened with Dingle.
>> I want to mention, that I had done something similar to what he did, but
>> with a different method.
>>
>> My result:
>>
>> Einstein's text 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' is so
>> unbelievable crappy, that it would have been better to forget that a
>> century ago.
>
> No, it's a very good paper and you don't understand it. That's one
> reason (among many) that Einstein is remembered as an excellent
> physicist and you are not.
>
>> Engineers do not believe in anything, which they have not built on their
>> own and which functions as desired.
>
> Non-sequitur. Physics is physics and engineering is engineering.
> If you don't like physics, just leave it to others.

Actually I like physics.

I liked relativity since I was a kid.

Another reason was the name of my neighbors in the village near Hamburg,
where I lived.

They were named 'Kepler' and actually grand-grand-... something of
Johannes Kepler.

This made me a little jellous and I wanted to do something like Kepler
myself.

The product of my efforts several decades later was this text:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6

TH
>

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 29.10.2021 um 15:46 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So, lets talk about technological probabilities.
>>>
>>> The 'defence' budget of the US is just enormous.
>>
>> Yes it is.
>>
>>>
>>> For large amounts of money you can buy a lot of stuff.
>>
>> Yes you can.
>>
>>>
>>> Supposed you had infinite amounts of money at your disposal: wouldn't
>>> you buy the better stuff, which is slightly ahead of the devices, which
>>> common mortal could buy?
>>
>> Well, first of all, the budget is large but not infinite. A ship that has
>> even ordinary technology still will consume a lot of your funds.
>
> Sure. But I wanted to exaggerate a bit to make the principle more obvious.
>
> the principle is:
>
> we are safe to assume, that the government does not tell everything and
> that they have more 'aces in their sleeves' than we can imagine.

This is simply not true. There are people like you that imagine they have
much more than they do.

>
> They have an enormous amount of funds, personal, knowledge and other
> recources, which can eventually be the reason for much higher developed
> technology, to which only the government has access.

This is also not true. They are not an advanced alien species. Funds do not
produce innovation.

>
> This is so likely, that we can safely assume it.

No, that’s the point. It is silly to assume such a wild conjecture.

>
> How far this hidden sector had developed things is - of course - a
> secret, hence we can only speculate.
>
> But I would think, that two or three decades ahead of commonly available
> technology is imho a good guess.

And that is wildly off.

>
>
> TH
>
>> Secondly, the technology has to actually exist to buy it. It’s not like the
>> Army is buying technology from an advanced alien species. And even the
>> advanced technology the military is TRYING to make doesn’t actually work.
>>
>>>
>>> Certainly you would. You could even buy the entire factory and also the
>>> the entire population of scientists and inventors, if you decide to do so.
>>
>> Thirdly, the government cannot just purchase private companies, though they
>> can contract with them. The military does not own Lockheed Martin or
>> General Dynamics.
>>
>>>
>>> You could buy computers, which can fill entire buildings or even entire
>>> cities, if that's what you want.
>>
>> Fourthly, there’s no point to building a computer center the size of a
>> city, though there are server farms that are building-sized. The biggest
>> ones are owned by private companies like Amazon.
>>
>>>
>>> Since you are not so different to the common mortals, who run your
>>> country, you can safely assume, they think like you and have already
>>> bought the biggest toys imaginable.
>>
>> Available, not imaginable.
>>
>> The thing is, you believe the things you *imagine* have happened.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TH
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:15:34 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> The product of my efforts several decades later was this garbage:
>
Yep

JanPB wrote:

>> > What fraud?
>> ohh boy. The vaccines are the fraud, you moon landing believer.
>
> I have nothing to tell a cretin who thinks the 1969 Moon landing was
> staged.
> The sheer degree of the ignorance of basic facts of life just takes
> one's breath away.

you fucking inbreed cretin, nasa is saying it loud and clear, they made
it to force Russia in fruitless expenses and collapse. You must be the
largest idiot I hit in this forum.

Thomas Heger wrote:

> the principle is:
> we are safe to assume, that the government does not tell everything and
> that they have more 'aces in their sleeves' than we can imagine.
> They have an enormous amount of funds, personal, knowledge and other
> recources, which can eventually be the reason for much higher developed
> technology, to which only the government has access.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jql0dyNKziAj/
URGENT - EU PARLIAMENT - NEW

Max Hay wrote:

> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>> the principle is:
>> we are safe to assume, that the government does not tell everything and
>> that they have more 'aces in their sleeves' than we can imagine.
>> They have an enormous amount of funds, personal, knowledge and other
>> recources, which can eventually be the reason for much higher developed
>> technology, to which only the government has access.
>
> https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jql0dyNKziAj/
> URGENT - EU PARLIAMENT - NEW

the last half is cool.

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-7, Max Hay wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> >> > What fraud?
> >> ohh boy. The vaccines are the fraud, you moon landing believer.
> >
> > I have nothing to tell a cretin who thinks the 1969 Moon landing was
> > staged.
> > The sheer degree of the ignorance of basic facts of life just takes
> > one's breath away.
> you fucking inbreed cretin, nasa is saying it loud and clear, they made
> it to force Russia in fruitless expenses and collapse. You must be the
> largest idiot I hit in this forum.

Sorry, but only a complete cretin and/or a gullible moron can seriously
entertain the notion that the 1969 Moon landing was "staged".

The overwhelming stupidity of this claim cannot be fathomed.

--
Jan

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 3:42:47 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-7, Max Hay wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> >
> > >> > What fraud?
> > >> ohh boy. The vaccines are the fraud, you moon landing believer.
> > >
> > > I have nothing to tell a cretin who thinks the 1969 Moon landing was
> > > staged.
> > > The sheer degree of the ignorance of basic facts of life just takes
> > > one's breath away.
> > you fucking inbreed cretin, nasa is saying it loud and clear, they made
> > it to force Russia in fruitless expenses and collapse. You must be the
> > largest idiot I hit in this forum.
> Sorry, but only a complete cretin and/or a gullible moron can seriously
> entertain the notion that the 1969 Moon landing was "staged".
>
> The overwhelming stupidity of this claim cannot be fathomed.
>
> --
> Jan

Jan is mad today. He's constipated.