With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.

So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.

How do you recover from winters?

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
>
> So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides.. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
>
> How do you recover from winters?

I keep riding.

Lou

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
> >
> > So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
> >
> > How do you recover from winters?
> I keep riding.
>
> Lou

That isn't practical in the rain on the roads around here. How would you like to have been climbing Norris Canyon or Redwood Rd and have the road collapse under you? I came pretty close to this on Norris Canyon a couple of years ago ( road dropped a foot after I was on it) and the roads department was angry that I would disturb them with actual work to do. The dangerous part of the road was on a cliff.

The flat routes around the bay that would equal the energy spent do not have a bike lane and the drivers are not like those in the Netherlands that respect the rights of cyclists. Even the roads in San Franciso only have bike lanes in the occasional spot. And it is almost impossible to get reasonably waterproof kit here. I tried some supposedly water proof pants but they held more water in than they prevented. The windproof jackets turned out not to be waterproof and the plastic rain jacket I bought wouldn't breath at all and I almost died from overheating in it.

On 1/11/2023 11:42 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
>>
>> So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
>>
>> How do you recover from winters?
>
> I keep riding.
>
> Lou
>

+1

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/11/2023 12:19 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
>>>
>>> So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
>>>
>>> How do you recover from winters?
>> I keep riding.
>>
>> Lou
>
> That isn't practical in the rain on the roads around here. How would you like to have been climbing Norris Canyon or Redwood Rd and have the road collapse under you? I came pretty close to this on Norris Canyon a couple of years ago ( road dropped a foot after I was on it) and the roads department was angry that I would disturb them with actual work to do. The dangerous part of the road was on a cliff.
>
> The flat routes around the bay that would equal the energy spent do not have a bike lane and the drivers are not like those in the Netherlands that respect the rights of cyclists. Even the roads in San Franciso only have bike lanes in the occasional spot. And it is almost impossible to get reasonably waterproof kit here. I tried some supposedly water proof pants but they held more water in than they prevented. The windproof jackets turned out not to be waterproof and the plastic rain jacket I bought wouldn't breath at all and I almost died from overheating in it.
>

Mr Holtman had the Nederlands answer to that problem:

https://vinnews.com/2020/02/09/riders-in-the-storm-dutch-cyclists-brave-storm-ciara/
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/11/2023 11:42 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom.. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
> >>
> >> So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
> >>
> >> How do you recover from winters?
> >
> > I keep riding.
> >
> > Lou
> >
> +1

I went out to Bike Nashbar and they had a lot of waterproof stuff. This is where I bought the supposedly waterproof pants that weren't but with so many choices no perhaps some of them actually work. But the ones that look the most likely are expensive as hell so it will take me another month or so to buy them and of course by then the rain will probably be over. Right now the rain in the bay area is the third largest since 1866. And the snow pack is 200% normal and wetter than normal.

But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in normally dry years.

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 10:29:29 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/11/2023 12:19 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
> >>>
> >>> So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
> >>>
> >>> How do you recover from winters?
> >> I keep riding.
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> > That isn't practical in the rain on the roads around here. How would you like to have been climbing Norris Canyon or Redwood Rd and have the road collapse under you? I came pretty close to this on Norris Canyon a couple of years ago ( road dropped a foot after I was on it) and the roads department was angry that I would disturb them with actual work to do. The dangerous part of the road was on a cliff.
> >
> > The flat routes around the bay that would equal the energy spent do not have a bike lane and the drivers are not like those in the Netherlands that respect the rights of cyclists. Even the roads in San Franciso only have bike lanes in the occasional spot. And it is almost impossible to get reasonably waterproof kit here. I tried some supposedly water proof pants but they held more water in than they prevented. The windproof jackets turned out not to be waterproof and the plastic rain jacket I bought wouldn't breath at all and I almost died from overheating in it.
> >
> Mr Holtman had the Nederlands answer to that problem:
>
> https://vinnews.com/2020/02/09/riders-in-the-storm-dutch-cyclists-brave-storm-ciara/

Looks like our normal spring riding conditions. Which is why I prefer to stay in the hills rather than ride to Livermore and back.23 miles into winds like that is certainly no fun.

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:32:26 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I went out to Bike Nashbar and they had a lot of waterproof stuff. This is where I bought the supposedly waterproof pants that weren't but with so many choices no perhaps some of them actually work. But the ones that look the most likely are expensive as hell so it will take me another month or so to buy them

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 10:59:11 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote in https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/8F27oh1Cy4s/m/yHneeKi8BAAJ:
>
>
> When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month.

and of course by then the rain will probably be over. Right now the rain in the bay area is the third largest since 1866. And the snow pack is 200% normal and wetter than normal.
>
> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in normally dry years.

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:36:28 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 10:29:29 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 1/11/2023 12:19 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
> > >>>
> > >>> How do you recover from winters?
> > >> I keep riding.
> > >>
> > >> Lou
> > >
> > > That isn't practical in the rain on the roads around here. How would you like to have been climbing Norris Canyon or Redwood Rd and have the road collapse under you? I came pretty close to this on Norris Canyon a couple of years ago ( road dropped a foot after I was on it) and the roads department was angry that I would disturb them with actual work to do. The dangerous part of the road was on a cliff.
> > >
> > > The flat routes around the bay that would equal the energy spent do not have a bike lane and the drivers are not like those in the Netherlands that respect the rights of cyclists. Even the roads in San Franciso only have bike lanes in the occasional spot. And it is almost impossible to get reasonably waterproof kit here. I tried some supposedly water proof pants but they held more water in than they prevented. The windproof jackets turned out not to be waterproof and the plastic rain jacket I bought wouldn't breath at all and I almost died from overheating in it.
> > >
> > Mr Holtman had the Nederlands answer to that problem:
> >
> > https://vinnews.com/2020/02/09/riders-in-the-storm-dutch-cyclists-brave-storm-ciara/
> Looks like our normal spring riding conditions. Which is why I prefer to stay in the hills rather than ride to Livermore and back.23 miles into winds like that is certainly no fun.

I once rode the ‘Afsluitdijk’ in two directions. Although it was ‘only’ 4 Beaufort the 32 km headwind was killing. I was too tired to enjoy the tailwind on the way back.

Lou

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:15:46 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:36:28 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 10:29:29 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > On 1/11/2023 12:19 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:06:07 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > >>> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be pretty painful. Plus I usually fork the excess weight off in the hills and all of the local hill roads have been destroyed by an entire lack of maintenance by the roads department. Even when I reported dangers they only did temporary and incomplete repairs.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So, this means that I will have to do long rides rather than harder rides. I checked out the courses for that and they haven't been destroyed by the rain and will work after a couple of days of dry but with the excess weight it will be tiring as hell.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> How do you recover from winters?
> > > >> I keep riding.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lou
> > > >
> > > > That isn't practical in the rain on the roads around here. How would you like to have been climbing Norris Canyon or Redwood Rd and have the road collapse under you? I came pretty close to this on Norris Canyon a couple of years ago ( road dropped a foot after I was on it) and the roads department was angry that I would disturb them with actual work to do. The dangerous part of the road was on a cliff.
> > > >
> > > > The flat routes around the bay that would equal the energy spent do not have a bike lane and the drivers are not like those in the Netherlands that respect the rights of cyclists. Even the roads in San Franciso only have bike lanes in the occasional spot. And it is almost impossible to get reasonably waterproof kit here. I tried some supposedly water proof pants but they held more water in than they prevented. The windproof jackets turned out not to be waterproof and the plastic rain jacket I bought wouldn't breath at all and I almost died from overheating in it.
> > > >
> > > Mr Holtman had the Nederlands answer to that problem:
> > >
> > > https://vinnews.com/2020/02/09/riders-in-the-storm-dutch-cyclists-brave-storm-ciara/
> > Looks like our normal spring riding conditions. Which is why I prefer to stay in the hills rather than ride to Livermore and back.23 miles into winds like that is certainly no fun.
> I once rode the ‘Afsluitdijk’ in two directions. Although it was ‘only’ 4 Beaufort the 32 km headwind was killing. I was too tired to enjoy the tailwind on the way back.

I've done several spring rides where the wind was hard in your face on the morning ride out and just as strong in your face on the early afternoon return trip. Getting home so tired I fell asleep in front of the computer or TV.

On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:32:26 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I went out to Bike Nashbar and they had a lot of waterproof stuff. This is where I bought the supposedly waterproof pants that weren't but with so many choices no perhaps some of them actually work. But the ones that look the most likely are expensive as hell so it will take me another month or so to buy them
>
> On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 10:59:11 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote in https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/8F27oh1Cy4s/m/yHneeKi8BAAJ:
>>
>>
>> When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month.
>
>
>
>
> and of course by then the rain will probably be over. Right now the rain in the bay area is the third largest since 1866. And the snow pack is 200% normal and wetter than normal.
>>
>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in normally dry years.

As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:37:33 p.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:32:26 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I went out to Bike Nashbar and they had a lot of waterproof stuff. This is where I bought the supposedly waterproof pants that weren't but with so many choices no perhaps some of them actually work. But the ones that look the most likely are expensive as hell so it will take me another month or so to buy them
> >
> > On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 10:59:11 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote in https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/8F27oh1Cy4s/m/yHneeKi8BAAJ:
> >>
> >>
> >> When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and of course by then the rain will probably be over. Right now the rain in the bay area is the third largest since 1866. And the snow pack is 200% normal and wetter than normal.
> >>
> >> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in normally dry years..
> As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

And warming or cooling of climate has caused some civilizations in the past (including in North America) to collapse.

The Sahara desert at one time was quite green with lots of rivers. Why did the Anasazi disappear? Why did many Middle American societies collapse even before the coming of Europeans? Because the climate changed and the land could no longer support the populations.

The ONLY constant in climate is change.

Cheers

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 12:53:29 PM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:37:33 p.m. UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:32:26 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out to Bike Nashbar and they had a lot of waterproof stuff. This is where I bought the supposedly waterproof pants that weren't but with so many choices no perhaps some of them actually work. But the ones that look the most likely are expensive as hell so it will take me another month or so to buy them
> > >
> > > On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 10:59:11 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote in https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/8F27oh1Cy4s/m/yHneeKi8BAAJ:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and of course by then the rain will probably be over. Right now the rain in the bay area is the third largest since 1866. And the snow pack is 200% normal and wetter than normal.
> > >>
> > >> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in normally dry years.
> > As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> And warming or cooling of climate has caused some civilizations in the past (including in North America) to collapse.
>
> The Sahara desert at one time was quite green with lots of rivers. Why did the Anasazi disappear? Why did many Middle American societies collapse even before the coming of Europeans? Because the climate changed and the land could no longer support the populations.
>
> The ONLY constant in climate is change.
>
> Cheers

Geez, more stupidity, there is no climate change, not only has every prediction failed but we have shown emails between Michael Mann and his cohorts saying that they were wrong and that they had to publish a counterfeit historic temperature hoax to show his predictions correct. But believe away that this year which has been the coldest in modern history is rally one of the hottest according to NOAA.

The Sahara still has plenty of rivers but they are under the sand. If it was ever lush and green it was a long time ago since it formed 5 million years ago.

The Anastazi are still there, they simply didn't have the technology to maintain cities during the little ice Age and the deforestation from the buffalo herds that deforested the entire central plains. This in turn caused actual climate change in that effected area

Am 11.01.2023 um 17:06 schrieb Tom Kunich:
> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer
> boredom. This means that the first month back on the bike will be
> pretty painful.
A week in bed over the christms days with fever due to Covid-19 let me
shed the 6 pounds I gained last spring.

So my challenge is how to gain energy and strength rather than how to
lose weight.

Rolf

Am 11.01.2023 um 21:37 schrieb AMuzi:
> On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying
>>> that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal
>>> when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in
>>> normally dry years.
>
> As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.

Global warming causes extreme waether conditions. The weakening Jet
Stream means high-pressure areas and low-pressure areas are more stable.
This means there are more droughts, and there are more more extreme
rains and flash floods at the same time (but at different places).

Rolf

Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 11.01.2023 um 21:37 schrieb AMuzi:

>>>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying
>>>> that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal
>>>> when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in
>>>> normally dry years.
>>
>> As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
>
> Global warming causes extreme waether conditions. The weakening Jet
> Stream means high-pressure areas and low-pressure areas are more stable.
> This means there are more droughts, and there are more more extreme
> rains and flash floods at the same time (but at different places).

Yeah, but haven't you ever noticed that when you ride and a freezing
rain sets in, you feel a bit uncomfortable? Actually, that's not an
itchy nose, but gene expression playing havoc, as this Moonbat
University study "proves"...
<https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1609821168504295427>
<;-o

On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 11.01.2023 um 21:37 schrieb AMuzi:
> > On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying
> >>> that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal
> >>> when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in
> >>> normally dry years.
> >
> > As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
> Global warming causes extreme waether conditions. The weakening Jet
> Stream means high-pressure areas and low-pressure areas are more stable.
> This means there are more droughts, and there are more more extreme
> rains and flash floods at the same time (but at different places).
>
> Rolf
I am curious as to what would lead you to think that the Jet Streams have weakened? They are caused by boundaries between warm and cold are and are stronger this year than they have been for many years. California is presently at over 200% of the normal snowfall and the coastal regions at over 300% normal rainfall.

There are still people trying to pass off this year as the "hottest on record" or "in a global drought" despite international weather now being quite accurately monitored and saying otherwise, but I find this as peculiar as the claim that Russia blew up their own gas line to Germany.

On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-8, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Rolf Mantel wrote:
> > Am 11.01.2023 um 21:37 schrieb AMuzi:
>
> >>>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media saying
> >>>> that the largest and most important reservoirs are at only 35% normal
> >>>> when these reservoirs are usually overfilled by snow melt even in
> >>>> normally dry years.
> >>
> >> As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
> >
> > Global warming causes extreme waether conditions. The weakening Jet
> > Stream means high-pressure areas and low-pressure areas are more stable.
> > This means there are more droughts, and there are more more extreme
> > rains and flash floods at the same time (but at different places).
> Yeah, but haven't you ever noticed that when you ride and a freezing
> rain sets in, you feel a bit uncomfortable? Actually, that's not an
> itchy nose, but gene expression playing havoc, as this Moonbat
> University study "proves"...
> <https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1609821168504295427>
> <;-o

The Slime Stream Media has to do something to try and maintain their hold over us.

Am 12.01.2023 um 17:21 schrieb Tom Kunich:
> On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel
> wrote:
>> Am 11.01.2023 um 21:37 schrieb AMuzi:
>>> On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media
>>>>> saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at
>>>>> only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled
>>>>> by snow melt even in normally dry years.
>>>
>>> As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
>> Global warming causes extreme waether conditions. The weakening
>> Jet Stream means high-pressure areas and low-pressure areas are
>> more stable. This means there are more droughts, and there are more
>> more extreme rains and flash floods at the same time (but at
>> different places).
>>
> I am curious as to what would lead you to think that the Jet Streams
> have weakened? They are caused by boundaries between warm and cold.

The extreme warming of the arctic area has reduced the temperature
differential between arctic and sub-tropical areas, which directly
reduces the enery available to the jet stream.

> California is presently at over 200% of the normal snowfall and
> the coastal regions at over 300% normal rainfall.
This is some of the 'local effects'. The water level of lake mead (as a
relevant regional rather than local effect) is 20 inches lower than this
time last year.

> There are still people trying to pass off this year as the "hottest
> on record" or "in a global drought" despite international weather now
> being quite accurately monitored and saying otherwise, but I find
> this as peculiar as the claim that Russia blew up their own gas line
> to Germany.

Please look at https://www.ufz.de/index.php?de=47252 for German drought
data since 1952 (Germany has a roughly similar size as California).
You'll see a heavy drought in 1976, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2022. In 1959
and 2003, the upper soil dried up but the drought did not reach the
tree-root layers.

Summer 2021 brought some of the most severe flash-floods in German
history, breaking but not ending the drought.

This is exacly the pattern I've been talking about: drought mixed with
flash flooding.

Rolf

On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 9:14:13 AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 12.01.2023 um 17:21 schrieb Tom Kunich:
> > On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel
> > wrote:
> >> Am 11.01.2023 um 21:37 schrieb AMuzi:
> >>> On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media
> >>>>> saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at
> >>>>> only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled
> >>>>> by snow melt even in normally dry years.
> >>>
> >>> As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
> >> Global warming causes extreme waether conditions. The weakening
> >> Jet Stream means high-pressure areas and low-pressure areas are
> >> more stable. This means there are more droughts, and there are more
> >> more extreme rains and flash floods at the same time (but at
> >> different places).
> >>
> > I am curious as to what would lead you to think that the Jet Streams
> > have weakened? They are caused by boundaries between warm and cold.
>
> The extreme warming of the arctic area has reduced the temperature
> differential between arctic and sub-tropical areas, which directly
> reduces the enery available to the jet stream.
> > California is presently at over 200% of the normal snowfall and
> > the coastal regions at over 300% normal rainfall.
> This is some of the 'local effects'. The water level of lake mead (as a
> relevant regional rather than local effect) is 20 inches lower than this
> time last year.
> > There are still people trying to pass off this year as the "hottest
> > on record" or "in a global drought" despite international weather now
> > being quite accurately monitored and saying otherwise, but I find
> > this as peculiar as the claim that Russia blew up their own gas line
> > to Germany.
> Please look at https://www.ufz.de/index.php?de=47252 for German drought
> data since 1952 (Germany has a roughly similar size as California).
> You'll see a heavy drought in 1976, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2022. In 1959
> and 2003, the upper soil dried up but the drought did not reach the
> tree-root layers.
>
> Summer 2021 brought some of the most severe flash-floods in German
> history, breaking but not ending the drought.
>
> This is exacly the pattern I've been talking about: drought mixed with
> flash flooding.
>
> Rolf
Rolf, do not allow yourself to believe the crap that they are passing off as "science". In the Winter the Arctic regions see no sun whatsoever and in the summers the sun comes BARELY above the horizon. There is NO warming in either case. There IS the usual 113 year orbital variations that heat and cool the mid-latitudes. This can change the heat in the mid-latitudes. And THIS can change the temperatures in the Arctic and Antarctic regions very slightly. Believe me that you CANNOT tell the difference between -40F and --60F and this does not change conditions on the Earth at all. The orbital cycle does.

In the equatorial regions - +/- 20 degrees the temperatures are always the same and that is why you don't have equatorial tornadoes or hurricanes.

The bullshit that they are trying to stuff down people's throats is so far from reality AND EVERY CLIMATOLOGIST AGREES that it is entirely in disagreement with the real science and reality.

Is there climate change? Inasmuch as the climate tracks the Earth's orbital changes, yes. But I can't stress enough that man can have absolutely no effect on a dynamic system of this magnitude.

On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 12:14:13 PM UTC-5, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 12.01.2023 um 17:21 schrieb Tom Kunich:
> > On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel
> > wrote:
> >> Am 11.01.2023 um 21:37 schrieb AMuzi:
> >>> On 1/11/2023 1:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> But of course we still have the asshole Slime Stream Media
> >>>>> saying that the largest and most important reservoirs are at
> >>>>> only 35% normal when these reservoirs are usually overfilled
> >>>>> by snow melt even in normally dry years.
> >>>
> >>> As has been noted repeatedly, Global Warming causes droughts.
> >> Global warming causes extreme waether conditions. The weakening
> >> Jet Stream means high-pressure areas and low-pressure areas are
> >> more stable. This means there are more droughts, and there are more
> >> more extreme rains and flash floods at the same time (but at
> >> different places).
> >>
> > I am curious as to what would lead you to think that the Jet Streams
> > have weakened? They are caused by boundaries between warm and cold.
>
> The extreme warming of the arctic area has reduced the temperature
> differential between arctic and sub-tropical areas, which directly
> reduces the enery available to the jet stream.
> > California is presently at over 200% of the normal snowfall and
> > the coastal regions at over 300% normal rainfall.
> This is some of the 'local effects'. The water level of lake mead (as a
> relevant regional rather than local effect) is 20 inches lower than this
> time last year.
> > There are still people trying to pass off this year as the "hottest
> > on record" or "in a global drought" despite international weather now
> > being quite accurately monitored and saying otherwise, but I find
> > this as peculiar as the claim that Russia blew up their own gas line
> > to Germany.
> Please look at https://www.ufz.de/index.php?de=47252 for German drought
> data since 1952 (Germany has a roughly similar size as California).
> You'll see a heavy drought in 1976, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2022. In 1959
> and 2003, the upper soil dried up but the drought did not reach the
> tree-root layers.
>
> Summer 2021 brought some of the most severe flash-floods in German
> history, breaking but not ending the drought.
>
> This is exacly the pattern I've been talking about: drought mixed with
> flash flooding.
>
> Rolf

Rolf, trying to argue legitimate science with tom is like trying to argue with your six-year-old about their bed time. It's best just to pat them on the head as they cry and stomp their feet, then tuck them in and say goodnight.

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom.
>
> How do you recover from winters?

Winter seems to add weight if you're not careful regardless of exercise, I'm not sure why.

My strategy is to weigh every morning and never have it sneak up on me. If I start creeping up I eat a little less. I dropped 50 pounds to get to goal weight and have kept it stable 4 years now.

Many math challenged fitness experts tell you not to weigh every day, because individual measurements will vary and mislead you. They tell you instead to take individual measurements on a different interval, maybe weekly or monthly, never realizing they've just moved the problem. If you really want more accuracy you could do a 5 day running average and take advantage of the central limit theorem, and I did that years ago, but it wasn't worth the effort.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 05:15:48 -0800 (PST), Tim R
<timothy42bach@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom.
>>
>> How do you recover from winters?
>
>Winter seems to add weight if you're not careful regardless of exercise, I'm not sure why.
>
>My strategy is to weigh every morning and never have it sneak up on me. If I start creeping up I eat a little less. I dropped 50 pounds to get to goal weight and have kept it stable 4 years now.
>
>Many math challenged fitness experts tell you not to weigh every day, because individual measurements will vary and mislead you. They tell you instead to take individual measurements on a different interval, maybe weekly or monthly, never realizing they've just moved the problem. If you really want more accuracy you could do a 5 day running average and take advantage of the central limit theorem, and I did that years ago, but it wasn't worth the effort.

Anyone can call themselves an "expert," and get mindless fools to take
their advice.

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:15:51 AM UTC-8, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom.
> >
> > How do you recover from winters?
> Winter seems to add weight if you're not careful regardless of exercise, I'm not sure why.
>
> My strategy is to weigh every morning and never have it sneak up on me. If I start creeping up I eat a little less. I dropped 50 pounds to get to goal weight and have kept it stable 4 years now.
>
> Many math challenged fitness experts tell you not to weigh every day, because individual measurements will vary and mislead you. They tell you instead to take individual measurements on a different interval, maybe weekly or monthly, never realizing they've just moved the problem. If you really want more accuracy you could do a 5 day running average and take advantage of the central limit theorem, and I did that years ago, but it wasn't worth the effort.

My weight gain seldom gets more than 20 lbs max, but it is getting harder and harder to get it off. And as I get older, my waist is disappearing and my pant slide down easier making me look like a mechanic. So hopefully it will be a dry spring so that I can get in shape for the early centuries.

On 1/13/2023 8:15 AM, Tim R wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> With three weeks of rain I am again up to 200 lbs due to sheer boredom.
>>
>> How do you recover from winters?
>
> Winter seems to add weight if you're not careful regardless of exercise, I'm not sure why.
>
> My strategy is to weigh every morning and never have it sneak up on me. If I start creeping up I eat a little less. I dropped 50 pounds to get to goal weight and have kept it stable 4 years now.

That's my plan as well. It works for me.

I'm about ten pounds over my college age weight. Sadly, I'm sure more of
those pounds are now fat instead of muscle. But when I got to about 17
pounds above college weight, I not only weighed myself daily, I plotted
it. For some reason, having a graph motivated me. It was satisfying to
see the plot slope downward.

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- Frank Krygowski