On 12/24/2012 10:34 PM, scooter lied:
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> "Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
> news:B5Gdna4q6pG3q0TNnZ2dnUVZ5g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On 12/24/2012 9:10 PM, scooter lied:
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>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AradnQLpIfjssUTNnZ2dnUVZ5qednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> On 12/24/2012 8:07 PM, scooter lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:xsSdnZqP2qi0g0TNnZ2dnUVZ5jmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 7:07 PM, scooter lied:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:MIydnX0_kbtKUUXNnZ2dnUVZ5s-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 1:40 PM, scooter lied:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:A8KdnQGxvs-5B0XNnZ2dnUVZ5oKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 12:02 PM, Oglethorpe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:5O2dnaUyRPFmWUrNnZ2dnUVZ5u2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/23/2012 5:21 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carol Kinsey Goman <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk.politics.guns :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/23/2012 12:15 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [snip the eunuch's evasive whimpering]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There seems to us no doubt, on the basis of both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history, that the Second Amendment conferred an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to keep and bear arms. Of course the right was *not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited*,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just as the First Amendment 's right of free speech was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g., United States v. Williams, 553 U. S. ___ (2008).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not read the Second Amendment to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to carry arms for any sort of confrontation, just as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read the First Amendment to protect the right of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak for any purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like most rights, the right secured by the Second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amendment is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *not unlimited*. From Blackstone through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19th-century
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commentators and courts routinely explained that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a right to keep and carry *any weapon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatsoever* in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [emphasis added]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [empty wheeze snipped]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You lose again. There is no right to keep and bear just *any*
>>>>>>>>>>>> arms
>>>>>>>>>>>> whatsoever - there are limits
>>>>>>>>>>> CITE THEM from the Second Amendment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They're not in the amendment, stupid knuckle-dragging fuckwit -
>>>>>>>>>> they're inherent in the right.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, show it to us then.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You show them to us, fuckwit. You claim to accept that the
>>>>>>>> right is
>>>>>>>> not unlimited. Show us the limits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So are you saying
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm saying you can't show us the limits you claim exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you can find out.
>>>>
>>>> How can I find out the limits you claim exist if you can't identify
>>>> them?
>>>
>>> I didn't say that,
>>
>> But you *can't* identify them.
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> I can identify them

You can't. That's why you won't even attempt it.

To be clear: blabbering about the fifth amendment isn't it. There is no limit or
restriction on second amendment rights, or on any other rights, in the fifth
amendment. That amendment states other rights of the people that limit powers of
*government*, not rights.