On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17 AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >>
> >> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >>
> >
> >Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
> races..
>
> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html

My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions, the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you? Oh, I know, it's because your saint desantis has declared war on anyone not like him, and you're lining up lockstep behind him - fucking sheep.

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:29:17 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 7:21:17 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > >> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:04:03?AM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >> > On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:04:23 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > >> > >> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:26:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> It's not as though I'd ever drink that pissy crap, anyway... but..
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/bud-lights-trans-ploy-backlash-shows-you-can-fight-big-woke/
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Almost every bike ride for many years has been followed by a Yuenglin
> > >> > >>>> as I sat on the truck's tailgate and waited for my heart-rate to
> > >> > >>>> settle down.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Can?t remember if I ever drank Bud light? As with many folks like myself
> > >> > >>> alcohol doesn?t mix well anymore!
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> But can?t imagine I?d be bothered within reason who was advertising it! Nor
> > >> > >>> probably interested in it.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Never heard of her good or bad it?s very much a meh from me!
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Not a "her."Anheuser-Busch has gone "woke."
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> Roger Merriman
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >And so? Unless the drink is worse or someone is doing something harmful?
> > >> > >Which at curious glance doesn’t appear to be bar existing..
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Still a Meh from me.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Roger Merriman
> > >> > I reject any effort to normalize the "transgender" nonsense,
> > >> > especially efforts to destroy women's athletics. They have every
> > >> > right to do market that pissy crap any way they want, but I have a
> > >> > right to reject their product and even to campaign against it. Their
> > >> > ad was supposed to influence those of us who like an occasional beer.
> > >> > It did.
> > >> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> > >>
> > >
> > >Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
> > Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
> > races..
> >
> > https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
> There is a reason for that. But it would just give him another "race" to finish last in.

I'm pretty sure I would come in last in a professional womens race. I'm ok with that.

Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:01:04 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
> <lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:19:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:57:18 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:04:03?AM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:04:23 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:26:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not as though I'd ever drink that pissy crap, anyway... but..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/bud-lights-trans-ploy-backlash-shows-you-can-fight-big-woke/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Almost every bike ride for many years has been followed by a Yuenglin
>>>>>>>>> as I sat on the truck's tailgate and waited for my heart-rate to
>>>>>>>>> settle down.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can?t remember if I ever drank Bud light? As with many folks like myself
>>>>>>>> alcohol doesn?t mix well anymore!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But can?t imagine I?d be bothered within reason who was advertising it! Nor
>>>>>>>> probably interested in it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never heard of her good or bad it?s very much a meh from me!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not a "her."Anheuser-Busch has gone "woke."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And so? Unless the drink is worse or someone is doing something harmful?
>>>>>> Which at curious glance doesn’t appear to be bar existing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still a Meh from me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>> I reject any effort to normalize the "transgender" nonsense,
>>>>> especially efforts to destroy women's athletics. They have every
>>>>> right to do market that pissy crap any way they want, but I have a
>>>>> right to reject their product and even to campaign against it. Their
>>>>> ad was supposed to influence those of us who like an occasional beer.
>>>>> It did.
>>>>
>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>> Males who claim they are women and females who claim they are men.
>>
>> Is it not more like 'I feel like a woman or a man' ? How is that a problem for you?
>>
>> Lou
>
> No, it's them claiming that they ARE a different gender from what
> their DNA says they really are. Actually, I have no problem with the
> claim, but I do have a problem when they demand that everyone treat
> them and refer to them differently from what their DNA says they
> really are. Specifically, males competing in women's athletic events
> and being allowed in their locker/shower facilities.
>
> "We were not forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker
> room with Lia. We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our
> consent, but in that locker room we turned around, and there’s a 6’4"
> biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were
> exposed to male genitalia," Gaines said.
>
> https://www.foxnews.com/media/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-womens-locker-room-after-meet-riley-gaines-dropped-pants
>
That is a quite a step away from simply being a face selling beer.

Sport and specifically trans women is rightly contentious, but is separate
from folks just existing which frankly is a Meh!

Roger Merriman

funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:29:17 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 7:21:17 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:04:03?AM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:04:23 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:26:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's not as though I'd ever drink that pissy crap, anyway... but..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/bud-lights-trans-ploy-backlash-shows-you-can-fight-big-woke/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Almost every bike ride for many years has been followed by a Yuenglin
>>>>>>>>>> as I sat on the truck's tailgate and waited for my heart-rate to
>>>>>>>>>> settle down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can?t remember if I ever drank Bud light? As with many folks like myself
>>>>>>>>> alcohol doesn?t mix well anymore!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But can?t imagine I?d be bothered within reason who was advertising it! Nor
>>>>>>>>> probably interested in it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never heard of her good or bad it?s very much a meh from me!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not a "her."Anheuser-Busch has gone "woke."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And so? Unless the drink is worse or someone is doing something harmful?
>>>>>>> Which at curious glance doesn’t appear to be bar existing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still a Meh from me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>> I reject any effort to normalize the "transgender" nonsense,
>>>>>> especially efforts to destroy women's athletics. They have every
>>>>>> right to do market that pissy crap any way they want, but I have a
>>>>>> right to reject their product and even to campaign against it. Their
>>>>>> ad was supposed to influence those of us who like an occasional beer.
>>>>>> It did.
>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
>>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
>>> races..
>>>
>>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
>> There is a reason for that. But it would just give him another "race" to finish last in.
>
> I'm pretty sure I would come in last in a professional womens race. I'm ok with that.
>
One of my cycling buddies has raced in national championships few times,
she can absolutely leave me for dead if she chooses to! Unless we go off
road where being a old MTB I can use experience and technique to level the
playing field which is fine by her as she is nothing if not competitive!

Roger Merriman

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>> >>
>> >
>> >Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
>> races..
>>
>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
>
>My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions, the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?

Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares about women's athletics
and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
women of scholarships and potential income.

On 4/14/2023 10:05 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:39:58 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> Gee, wouldn't you want to call yourself a woman so that you could race against people with lower muscle masses than if they had a Y chromosome?
>
> That is difficult and a different thing, but how big is that problem in reality in professional sport where it matters?

I think it matters in amateur sports as well. There's more to life than
making money.

And I'll note that there seems to be no parallel controversy about the
reverse situation. People who were labeled female at birth and through
their youth do not "transition" to male, then out-compete male athletes.

That fact alone indicates there is an unfair advantage for the "newly
female" athletes.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:22:41 AM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:01:04 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
> > <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:19:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:57:18 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
> >>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:04:03?AM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:04:23 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:26:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's not as though I'd ever drink that pissy crap, anyway... but..
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/bud-lights-trans-ploy-backlash-shows-you-can-fight-big-woke/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Almost every bike ride for many years has been followed by a Yuenglin
> >>>>>>>>> as I sat on the truck's tailgate and waited for my heart-rate to
> >>>>>>>>> settle down.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can?t remember if I ever drank Bud light? As with many folks like myself
> >>>>>>>> alcohol doesn?t mix well anymore!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But can?t imagine I?d be bothered within reason who was advertising it! Nor
> >>>>>>>> probably interested in it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Never heard of her good or bad it?s very much a meh from me!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not a "her."Anheuser-Busch has gone "woke."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> And so? Unless the drink is worse or someone is doing something harmful?
> >>>>>> Which at curious glance doesn’t appear to be bar existing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Still a Meh from me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>> I reject any effort to normalize the "transgender" nonsense,
> >>>>> especially efforts to destroy women's athletics. They have every
> >>>>> right to do market that pissy crap any way they want, but I have a
> >>>>> right to reject their product and even to campaign against it. Their
> >>>>> ad was supposed to influence those of us who like an occasional beer.
> >>>>> It did.
> >>>>
> >>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >>>>
> >>>> Lou
> >>> Males who claim they are women and females who claim they are men.
> >>
> >> Is it not more like 'I feel like a woman or a man' ? How is that a problem for you?
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> > No, it's them claiming that they ARE a different gender from what
> > their DNA says they really are. Actually, I have no problem with the
> > claim, but I do have a problem when they demand that everyone treat
> > them and refer to them differently from what their DNA says they
> > really are. Specifically, males competing in women's athletic events
> > and being allowed in their locker/shower facilities.
> >
> > "We were not forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker
> > room with Lia. We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our
> > consent, but in that locker room we turned around, and there’s a 6’4"
> > biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were
> > exposed to male genitalia," Gaines said.
> >
> > https://www.foxnews.com/media/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-womens-locker-room-after-meet-riley-gaines-dropped-pants
> >
> That is a quite a step away from simply being a face selling beer.
>
> Sport and specifically trans women is rightly contentious, but is separate
> from folks just existing which frankly is a Meh!
>
> Roger Merriman

So you, like Liebermann are Bud Lite drinkers?

On 4/14/2023 11:01 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> I hate to speak of a country I love like this ...

No you don't, Tom. You relish it. You do it every day regarding every
topic that comes to your mind.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:21:13 PM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 4/14/2023 10:05 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:39:58 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>
> >> Gee, wouldn't you want to call yourself a woman so that you could race against people with lower muscle masses than if they had a Y chromosome?
> >
> > That is difficult and a different thing, but how big is that problem in reality in professional sport where it matters?
> I think it matters in amateur sports as well. There's more to life than
> making money.
>
> And I'll note that there seems to be no parallel controversy about the
> reverse situation. People who were labeled female at birth and through
> their youth do not "transition" to male, then out-compete male athletes.
>
> That fact alone indicates there is an unfair advantage for the "newly
> female" athletes.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

Off course there is an unfair advantage and that makes it difficult in these rare situation.

Lou

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:11:49 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
> >> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
> >> races..
> >>
> >> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
> >
> >My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions, the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares about women's athletics
> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
> women of scholarships and potential income.
I'm sure others will come back with the stupid retort that some woman or another can beat them. As for Lou's comments that if it is OK with women we have no say in it? Well it ISN'T OK with women https://dailycaller.com/2021/07/30/cindy-hyde-smith-cynthia-monteleone-independent-womens-forum-joni-ernst-marsha-blackburn/

What in the world would ever lead you to believe that males who have a biological advantage over females in any sport that requires strength, speed or endurance would be OK with it? Do you suppose that wearing a dress changes your biology?

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 12:33:09 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:21:13 PM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 4/14/2023 10:05 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:39:58 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Gee, wouldn't you want to call yourself a woman so that you could race against people with lower muscle masses than if they had a Y chromosome?
> > >
> > > That is difficult and a different thing, but how big is that problem in reality in professional sport where it matters?
> > I think it matters in amateur sports as well. There's more to life than
> > making money.
> >
> > And I'll note that there seems to be no parallel controversy about the
> > reverse situation. People who were labeled female at birth and through
> > their youth do not "transition" to male, then out-compete male athletes..
> >
> > That fact alone indicates there is an unfair advantage for the "newly
> > female" athletes.
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> Off course there is an unfair advantage and that makes it difficult in these rare situation.
>
> Lou

Perhaps we might ask Frank to name even ONE case of a biological female holding a world or national record in men's sports?

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:41:26 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 12:33:09 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:21:13 PM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > On 4/14/2023 10:05 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > > On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:39:58 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Gee, wouldn't you want to call yourself a woman so that you could race against people with lower muscle masses than if they had a Y chromosome?
> > > >
> > > > That is difficult and a different thing, but how big is that problem in reality in professional sport where it matters?
> > > I think it matters in amateur sports as well. There's more to life than
> > > making money.
> > >
> > > And I'll note that there seems to be no parallel controversy about the
> > > reverse situation. People who were labeled female at birth and through
> > > their youth do not "transition" to male, then out-compete male athletes.
> > >
> > > That fact alone indicates there is an unfair advantage for the "newly
> > > female" athletes.
> > >
> > > --
> > > - Frank Krygowski
> > Off course there is an unfair advantage and that makes it difficult in these rare situation.
> >
> > Lou
> Perhaps we might ask Frank to name even ONE case of a biological female holding a world or national record in men's sports?

Perhaps you could take the time to read what frank actually wrote, dumbass..

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49 PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
> >> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
> >> races..
> >>
> >> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
> >
> >My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions, the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares

Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like, then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs

> about women's athletics
> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
> women of scholarships and potential income.

Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:22:41 AM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:01:04 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:19:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:57:18 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:04:03?AM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:04:23 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:26:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not as though I'd ever drink that pissy crap, anyway... but..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/bud-lights-trans-ploy-backlash-shows-you-can-fight-big-woke/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Almost every bike ride for many years has been followed by a Yuenglin
>>>>>>>>>>> as I sat on the truck's tailgate and waited for my heart-rate to
>>>>>>>>>>> settle down.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can?t remember if I ever drank Bud light? As with many folks like myself
>>>>>>>>>> alcohol doesn?t mix well anymore!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But can?t imagine I?d be bothered within reason who was advertising it! Nor
>>>>>>>>>> probably interested in it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never heard of her good or bad it?s very much a meh from me!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not a "her."Anheuser-Busch has gone "woke."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And so? Unless the drink is worse or someone is doing something harmful?
>>>>>>>> Which at curious glance doesn’t appear to be bar existing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still a Meh from me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>> I reject any effort to normalize the "transgender" nonsense,
>>>>>>> especially efforts to destroy women's athletics. They have every
>>>>>>> right to do market that pissy crap any way they want, but I have a
>>>>>>> right to reject their product and even to campaign against it. Their
>>>>>>> ad was supposed to influence those of us who like an occasional beer.
>>>>>>> It did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lou
>>>>> Males who claim they are women and females who claim they are men.
>>>>
>>>> Is it not more like 'I feel like a woman or a man' ? How is that a problem for you?
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>> No, it's them claiming that they ARE a different gender from what
>>> their DNA says they really are. Actually, I have no problem with the
>>> claim, but I do have a problem when they demand that everyone treat
>>> them and refer to them differently from what their DNA says they
>>> really are. Specifically, males competing in women's athletic events
>>> and being allowed in their locker/shower facilities.
>>>
>>> "We were not forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker
>>> room with Lia. We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our
>>> consent, but in that locker room we turned around, and there’s a 6’4"
>>> biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were
>>> exposed to male genitalia," Gaines said.
>>>
>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-womens-locker-room-after-meet-riley-gaines-dropped-pants
>>>
>>>
>> That is a quite a step away from simply being a face selling beer.
>>
>> Sport and specifically trans women is rightly contentious, but is separate
>> from folks just existing which frankly is a Meh!
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> So you, like Liebermann are Bud Lite drinkers?
>
I don’t drink at all any more doesn’t mix well with brain injury!

I certainly have drunk Budweiser both USA and German? Variety don’t think I
ever drank lite but maybe?

Roger Merriman

funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:41:26 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 12:33:09 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:21:13 PM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 4/14/2023 10:05 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:39:58 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee, wouldn't you want to call yourself a woman so that you could
>>>>>> race against people with lower muscle masses than if they had a Y chromosome?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is difficult and a different thing, but how big is that problem
>>>>> in reality in professional sport where it matters?
>>>> I think it matters in amateur sports as well. There's more to life than
>>>> making money.
>>>>
>>>> And I'll note that there seems to be no parallel controversy about the
>>>> reverse situation. People who were labeled female at birth and through
>>>> their youth do not "transition" to male, then out-compete male athletes.
>>>>
>>>> That fact alone indicates there is an unfair advantage for the "newly
>>>> female" athletes.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - Frank Krygowski
>>> Off course there is an unfair advantage and that makes it difficult in
>>> these rare situation.
>>>
>>> Lou
>> Perhaps we might ask Frank to name even ONE case of a biological female
>> holding a world or national record in men's sports?
>
> Perhaps you could take the time to read what frank actually wrote, dumbass.
>
Indeed in terms of sport most/all are in agreement?

Roger Merriman

funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49 PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
>>>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
>>>> races..
>>>>
>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
>>>
>>> My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions,
>>> the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something
>>> about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your
>>> nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
>> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares
>
> Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like,
> then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs
>
> > about women's athletics
>> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
>> women of scholarships and potential income.
>
> Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of
> biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just
> to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....
>
During the last uk census Transgender was recorded as 0.4 % split evenly
50/50 between the genders.

Ie for all that click bate and angry words a tiny number of people.

Roger Merriman

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 12:51:28 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49?PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
>> >> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
>> >> races..
>> >>
>> >> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
>> >
>> >My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions, the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
>> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares
>
>Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like, then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs
>
> > about women's athletics
>> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
>> women of scholarships and potential income.
>
>Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....

It only takes one to rob a deserving woman of her athletic
scholarship, Dummy.

On 4/14/2023 3:47 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:41:26 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 12:33:09 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:21:13 PM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 4/14/2023 10:05 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:39:58 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee, wouldn't you want to call yourself a woman so that you could race against people with lower muscle masses than if they had a Y chromosome?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is difficult and a different thing, but how big is that problem in reality in professional sport where it matters?
>>>> I think it matters in amateur sports as well. There's more to life than
>>>> making money.
>>>>
>>>> And I'll note that there seems to be no parallel controversy about the
>>>> reverse situation. People who were labeled female at birth and through
>>>> their youth do not "transition" to male, then out-compete male athletes.
>>>>
>>>> That fact alone indicates there is an unfair advantage for the "newly
>>>> female" athletes.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - Frank Krygowski
>>> Off course there is an unfair advantage and that makes it difficult in these rare situation.
>>>
>>> Lou
>> Perhaps we might ask Frank to name even ONE case of a biological female holding a world or national record in men's sports?
>
> Perhaps you could take the time to read what frank actually wrote, dumbass.

Tom is astonishing. He can't even tell what side of a discussion a
person is taking.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:24:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49?PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
>>>>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
>>>>> races..
>>>>>
>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
>>>>
>>>> My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions,
>>>> the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something
>>>> about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your
>>>> nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
>>> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares
>>
>> Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like,
>> then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs
>>
>> > about women's athletics
>>> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
>>> women of scholarships and potential income.
>>
>> Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of
>> biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just
>> to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....
>>
>During the last uk census Transgender was recorded as 0.4 % split evenly
>50/50 between the genders.
>
>Ie for all that click bate and angry words a tiny number of people.
>
>Roger Merriman
>

Yeah, not very many of them, but most of them seem to be attention
seekers. I don't like attention seekers.

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:22:41 AM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> >> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:01:04 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
> >>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:19:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:57:18 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
> >>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:04:03?AM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:04:23 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:26:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's not as though I'd ever drink that pissy crap, anyway... but..
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/bud-lights-trans-ploy-backlash-shows-you-can-fight-big-woke/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Almost every bike ride for many years has been followed by a Yuenglin
> >>>>>>>>>>> as I sat on the truck's tailgate and waited for my heart-rate to
> >>>>>>>>>>> settle down.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Can?t remember if I ever drank Bud light? As with many folks like myself
> >>>>>>>>>> alcohol doesn?t mix well anymore!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But can?t imagine I?d be bothered within reason who was advertising it! Nor
> >>>>>>>>>> probably interested in it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Never heard of her good or bad it?s very much a meh from me!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Not a "her."Anheuser-Busch has gone "woke."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And so? Unless the drink is worse or someone is doing something harmful?
> >>>>>>>> Which at curious glance doesn’t appear to be bar existing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Still a Meh from me.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>>>> I reject any effort to normalize the "transgender" nonsense,
> >>>>>>> especially efforts to destroy women's athletics. They have every
> >>>>>>> right to do market that pissy crap any way they want, but I have a
> >>>>>>> right to reject their product and even to campaign against it. Their
> >>>>>>> ad was supposed to influence those of us who like an occasional beer.
> >>>>>>> It did.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lou
> >>>>> Males who claim they are women and females who claim they are men.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it not more like 'I feel like a woman or a man' ? How is that a problem for you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Lou
> >>>
> >>> No, it's them claiming that they ARE a different gender from what
> >>> their DNA says they really are. Actually, I have no problem with the
> >>> claim, but I do have a problem when they demand that everyone treat
> >>> them and refer to them differently from what their DNA says they
> >>> really are. Specifically, males competing in women's athletic events
> >>> and being allowed in their locker/shower facilities.
> >>>
> >>> "We were not forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker
> >>> room with Lia. We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our
> >>> consent, but in that locker room we turned around, and there’s a 6’4"
> >>> biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were
> >>> exposed to male genitalia," Gaines said.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-womens-locker-room-after-meet-riley-gaines-dropped-pants
> >>>
> >>>
> >> That is a quite a step away from simply being a face selling beer.
> >>
> >> Sport and specifically trans women is rightly contentious, but is separate
> >> from folks just existing which frankly is a Meh!
> >>
> >> Roger Merriman
> >
> > So you, like Liebermann are Bud Lite drinkers?
> >
> I don’t drink at all any more doesn’t mix well with brain injury!
>
> I certainly have drunk Budweiser both USA and German? Variety don’t think I
> ever drank lite but maybe?
>
> Roger Merriman
I'm sorry, that might not have been obvious, but it was a joke.

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:22:41 AM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:01:04 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:19:51?PM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:57:18 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
>>>>>>> <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:04:03?AM UTC+2, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:04:23 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:26:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not as though I'd ever drink that pissy crap, anyway... but..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/bud-lights-trans-ploy-backlash-shows-you-can-fight-big-woke/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Almost every bike ride for many years has been followed by a Yuenglin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I sat on the truck's tailgate and waited for my heart-rate to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> settle down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can?t remember if I ever drank Bud light? As with many folks like myself
>>>>>>>>>>>> alcohol doesn?t mix well anymore!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But can?t imagine I?d be bothered within reason who was advertising it! Nor
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably interested in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Never heard of her good or bad it?s very much a meh from me!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not a "her."Anheuser-Busch has gone "woke."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And so? Unless the drink is worse or someone is doing something harmful?
>>>>>>>>>> Which at curious glance doesn’t appear to be bar existing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still a Meh from me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>> I reject any effort to normalize the "transgender" nonsense,
>>>>>>>>> especially efforts to destroy women's athletics. They have every
>>>>>>>>> right to do market that pissy crap any way they want, but I have a
>>>>>>>>> right to reject their product and even to campaign against it. Their
>>>>>>>>> ad was supposed to influence those of us who like an occasional beer.
>>>>>>>>> It did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>>> Males who claim they are women and females who claim they are men.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it not more like 'I feel like a woman or a man' ? How is that a problem for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's them claiming that they ARE a different gender from what
>>>>> their DNA says they really are. Actually, I have no problem with the
>>>>> claim, but I do have a problem when they demand that everyone treat
>>>>> them and refer to them differently from what their DNA says they
>>>>> really are. Specifically, males competing in women's athletic events
>>>>> and being allowed in their locker/shower facilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We were not forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker
>>>>> room with Lia. We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our
>>>>> consent, but in that locker room we turned around, and there’s a 6’4"
>>>>> biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were
>>>>> exposed to male genitalia," Gaines said.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-womens-locker-room-after-meet-riley-gaines-dropped-pants
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That is a quite a step away from simply being a face selling beer.
>>>>
>>>> Sport and specifically trans women is rightly contentious, but is separate
>>>> from folks just existing which frankly is a Meh!
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>> So you, like Liebermann are Bud Lite drinkers?
>>>
>> I don’t drink at all any more doesn’t mix well with brain injury!
>>
>> I certainly have drunk Budweiser both USA and German? Variety don’t think I
>> ever drank lite but maybe?
>>
>> Roger Merriman
> I'm sorry, that might not have been obvious, but it was a joke.
>

Ah one of the things that went was my ability to work out intent and thus
often humour!

Roger Merriman

Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:24:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49?PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
>>>>>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
>>>>>> races..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions,
>>>>> the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something
>>>>> about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your
>>>>> nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
>>>> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares
>>>
>>> Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like,
>>> then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs
>>>
>>>> about women's athletics
>>>> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
>>>> women of scholarships and potential income.
>>>
>>> Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of
>>> biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just
>>> to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....
>>>
>> During the last uk census Transgender was recorded as 0.4 % split evenly
>> 50/50 between the genders.
>>
>> Ie for all that click bate and angry words a tiny number of people.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>>
>
> Yeah, not very many of them, but most of them seem to be attention
> seekers. I don't like attention seekers.
>
Some are ie influencers but not many, as it’s controversial it’s click bate
hence being in the news!

Roger Merriman

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:24:23 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49 PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
> >>>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
> >>>> races..
> >>>>
> >>>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
> >>>
> >>> My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions,
> >>> the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something
> >>> about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your
> >>> nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
> >> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares
> >
> > Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like,
> > then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs
> >
> > > about women's athletics
> >> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
> >> women of scholarships and potential income.
> >
> > Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of
> > biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just
> > to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....
> >
> During the last uk census Transgender was recorded as 0.4 % split evenly
> 50/50 between the genders.
>
> Ie for all that click bate and angry words a tiny number of people.
>
> Roger Merriman

Roger, who CARES if someone wants to pretend that they are another sex? They've been among us since Eve took a bite of the apple. They used to be the butt of very many jokes which I considered to be cruel and unjust, but why should what people do behind closed doors concern anyone else?

But when someone walks into a woman's public toilet and pulls out a prong, women don't have such mercy. And now a perpetrator cannot be held accountable only by saying that he is transgender. And an absolute loser in a sport can say that he is transgender and have a natural born advantage over the other entries.

It would be as if you were approving of racers drugging themselves to the gills. MEN and not even supposed to take male hormones in sports.

Here in the US there are other considerations - LGBTQ are given priority in things like loans etc. San Francisco is seriously considering giving each black who can trace their heritage back to before the civil war $1 Million and other considerations. Now California ENTERED the union a free state and while there was some discrimination it was entirely from private sources and NOT the white people of California. As a whole they objected to these segregations so vociferously that President Truman even was forced to desegregate the military. (1947) So the people of this country that fought an entire WAR to free the slaves and end segregation should be further aggrieved by forfeiting their money?

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:36:05 PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:24:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49?PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
> >>>>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
> >>>>> races..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
> >>>>
> >>>> My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions,
> >>>> the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something
> >>>> about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your
> >>>> nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
> >>> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares
> >>
> >> Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like,
> >> then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs
> >>
> >> > about women's athletics
> >>> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
> >>> women of scholarships and potential income.
> >>
> >> Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of
> >> biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just
> >> to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....
> >>
> >During the last uk census Transgender was recorded as 0.4 % split evenly
> >50/50 between the genders.
> >
> >Ie for all that click bate and angry words a tiny number of people.
> >
> >Roger Merriman
> >
> Yeah, not very many of them, but most of them seem to be attention
> seekers. I don't like attention seekers.

Do you mean Flunky, Liebermann and Frank?

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 2:10:54 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:24:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:11:49?PM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:21:17?AM UTC-4, floriduh white trash wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:57:20?AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What is ‘transgender’ nonsense?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just more right-wing ranting from a floriduh bigot.
> >>>>>> Apparently, Junior has no problem with males winning women's bicycling
> >>>>>> races..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/male-athlete-wins-women-cycling-151630094.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My opinion of the matter is irrelevant. With a few notable exceptions,
> >>>>> the womens pro peloton is ok with it. If they want to do something
> >>>>> about it, let them drive it. Why do you feel the need to stick your
> >>>>> nose into something that has absolutely no effect on you?
> >>>> Actually, Dummy, it effects everyone who cares
> >>>
> >>> Right, you're all about 'freedom' unless it's something you don't like,
> >>> then it's ok for you to impose your beliefs
> >>>
> >>>> about women's athletics
> >>>> and doesn't want to see it taken over by biological males robbing
> >>>> women of scholarships and potential income.
> >>>
> >>> Sure, There are literally thousands....no, hundreds of thousands of
> >>> biological males who are willing to go through gender transformation just
> >>> to get a sports scholarship. Talk about fear mongering.....
> >>>
> >> During the last uk census Transgender was recorded as 0.4 % split evenly
> >> 50/50 between the genders.
> >>
> >> Ie for all that click bate and angry words a tiny number of people.
> >>
> >> Roger Merriman
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, not very many of them, but most of them seem to be attention
> > seekers. I don't like attention seekers.
> >
> Some are ie influencers but not many, as it’s controversial it’s click bate
> hence being in the news!
>
> Roger Merriman
Well I live in the San Francisco bay area and they most certainly are not rare here. San Francisco has died on the altar of LGBTQ+