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* 50 Dead in Kentucky TornadoesRick C
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50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.

So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.

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 by: Tom Del Rosso - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 16:01 UTC

Rick C wrote:
> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.

How many are below 75.

> Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid

How many are below 75.

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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Rick C wrote:
> > 50 dead and it may rise to 100.
> How many are below 75.
> > Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
> How many are below 75.

What are you talking about???

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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 8:01:19 AM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> 50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>
> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.
>
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It wasn't considered worthwhile to design for tornadoes until now.
<https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/article/2021/12/02/updated-asce-7-22-standard-now-available>
I wonder who will decide which standards to use and where. Tornado Alley is in the middle of the United States.
<https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/what-is-tornado-alley-2/432271>. Building to withstand EF5
storms would get expensive. Safe rooms might be one answer.
Nebraska farmers had the old root cellars to hide in during storms in the old days. Basements replaced those as
time went on. We have so much better warning systems than a couple decades ago.

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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> > Rick C wrote:
> > > 50 dead and it may rise to 100.
> > How many are below 75.
> > > Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
> > How many are below 75.
> What are you talking about???
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Add Dixie Alley to the long list of things I haven't heard of.
<https://strangesounds.org/2019/09/us-tornado-map-these-twister-risk-maps-show-where-you-can-get-killed-by-a-tornado.html>

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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 1:33:07 PM UTC-5, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> > > Rick C wrote:
> > > > 50 dead and it may rise to 100.
> > > How many are below 75.
> > > > Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
> > > How many are below 75.
> > What are you talking about???
> >
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> Add Dixie Alley to the long list of things I haven't heard of.
> <https://strangesounds.org/2019/09/us-tornado-map-these-twister-risk-maps-show-where-you-can-get-killed-by-a-tornado.html>

The location of the high tornado risk area seems to vary with who is reporting it.

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 by: Tom Del Rosso - Tue, 14 Dec 2021 23:51 UTC

Rick C wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso
> wrote:
>> Rick C wrote:
>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.
>> How many are below 75.
>>> Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
>> How many are below 75.
>
> What are you talking about???

I should have said how many are under 75 with fewer than 3
comorbidities. Most "Covid deaths" have 3 or 4.

Or how many died of Covid like Colin Powell, with cancer.

If Colin Powell's grandson was taking cover in a bathtub and the house
blew away and the kid was thrown 100 feet, I suspect the family would
think that was worse.

Or if he was one of the kids who committed suicide due to depression
linked to the lockdown, they'd think that was worse too.

That's the lockdown that was necessary to keep people from their jobs
where they come in contact with a few people each day, while supermarket
employees came in contact with 100s of people per day and didn't get
sick. So what if they lost half a year's income.

Yeah, what am I talking about.

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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 6:01:19 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> 50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>
> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.
>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

You have COVID on the brain. You didn't mention how many died from heart disease. This is Kentucky's worst tornado storm ever - thousands of people, who survived the tornados, have had their lives turned upside down forever. If you were one of them I guarantee you wouldn't be worried about COVID.

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 by: Rick C - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:41 UTC

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 1:48:33 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 6:01:19 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
> >
> > So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.
> >
> > --
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> > Rick C.
> >
> > - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> You have COVID on the brain. You didn't mention how many died from heart disease. This is Kentucky's worst tornado storm ever - thousands of people, who survived the tornadoes, have had their lives turned upside down forever. If you were one of them I guarantee you wouldn't be worried about COVID.

Likewise, this pandemic is the worst Kentucky has ever seen. If you were one of the people who were laid up in a hospital ICU for weeks and still suffering from long Covid after three or six months, you wouldn't be too worried about the relatively minute risk of a tornado. The typical number of tornado deaths is 80 in a year in the US. Not 800,000, just 80. That's my point. We get all riled up over something sudden and violent but very limited in scope, while ignoring something that is much more devastating and ongoing. Yeah, 800,000, a 1,000 times more deaths and counting!

As usual, people here jerk their knees rather than try to understand what I was saying.

It reminds me of how people got so worked up over the Boston bombing which even if it was very devastating to those impacted, affected a relatively small number of people. Only two days later a massive ammonium nitrate explosion in a plant in Texas that killed and injured many, many more was all but ignored by the masses. The Boston bomber was much more dramatic with a man hunt, etc. Great TV news stuff, 24 hour coverage even though there was little to report. The Texas plant fire was under control in a relatively short time and no one really cared to hear much about the investigation about it possibly being terrorism.

Tornadoes and mad bombers are dramatic and newsworthy. Nearly two year old pandemics and factory explosions are not news no matter how many they kill.. Now, find a few cases of Ebola in the US and see if people get worked up about it. Do you think people would refuse an Ebola vaccine if we had one? Probably so, they would claim it was made from unicorn embryo horns.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:42 UTC

On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
> 50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>
> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.
>

I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.

Sylvia.

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On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 4:48:33 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 6:01:19 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
> >
> > So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.
>
> You have COVID on the brain.

And you haven't got anything like enough brain. Covid-19 has killed 821,335 Americans so far. It may be slower acting than a tornado, but it is much more persistent.

> You didn't mention how many died from heart disease.

Which a known complication of obesity, which is also endemic in the US. You seem to have a short attention span.

> This is Kentucky's worst tornado storm ever - thousands of people, who survived the tornados, have had their lives turned upside down forever.

Getting long Covid - which happens at least as often as it kills people - turns your life upside down for quite while

> If you were one of them I guarantee you wouldn't be worried about COVID.

But you should be. Surviving a tornado doesn't make you immune from Covid-19. Getting jammed into a refuge with other survivors makes you a bit more likely to get it.

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On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:42:44 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
> > 50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
> >
> > So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.
> >
> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.

Randy Newman has a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0TvfqmWf4M

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Rick C.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:17 UTC

On 15-Dec-21 7:04 pm, Rick C wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:42:44 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>>>
>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive building codes.
>>>
>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
>
> Randy Newman has a song.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0TvfqmWf4M
>

Sounds about right.

Sylvia.

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 by: Tom Gardner - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:04 UTC

On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
>> Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a 53% fully vaccinated
>> rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>>
>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I wonder if
>> they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
>> tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive
>> building codes.
>>
>
> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.

Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:11 UTC

On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day
>>> from Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a 53%
>>> fully vaccinated rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>>>
>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I
>>> wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
>>> protection from tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand their
>>> freedom from intrusive building codes.
>>>
>>
>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
>> church.
>
> Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?

Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing
very clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in future
they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for
something they actually like doing.

But probably not.

Sylvia.

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 by: Tom Gardner - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:23 UTC

On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
>> On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
>>>> Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a 53% fully
>>>> vaccinated rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>>>>
>>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I wonder if
>>>> they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
>>>> tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand their freedom from intrusive
>>>> building codes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
>>
>> Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
>
> Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
> clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in future they can stop
> with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they actually
> like doing.
>
> But probably not.

It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:46 UTC

On 15-Dec-21 10:23 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>> On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
>>>>> day from Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a
>>>>> 53% fully vaccinated rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly
>>>>> disease.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I
>>>>> wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
>>>>> protection from tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand
>>>>> their freedom from intrusive building codes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
>>>> church.
>>>
>>> Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
>>
>> Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing
>> very clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in
>> future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time
>> for something they actually like doing.
>>
>> But probably not.
>
> It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
> thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
> denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.

Yes, but it requires a considerable degree of double-think on their part
to explain the destruction of their church. I suppose the church might
have belonged to a rival denomination, but the report I saw indicated
that it was their church.

Sylvia.

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 by: Tom Gardner - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 12:29 UTC

On 15/12/21 11:46, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 15-Dec-21 10:23 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
>> On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>> On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>>>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
>>>>>> Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a 53% fully
>>>>>> vaccinated rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I wonder if
>>>>>> they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
>>>>>> tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand their freedom from
>>>>>> intrusive building codes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
>>>>
>>>> Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
>>>
>>> Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
>>> clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in future they can
>>> stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they
>>> actually like doing.
>>>
>>> But probably not.
>>
>> It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
>> thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
>> denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
>
> Yes, but it requires a considerable degree of double-think on their part to
> explain the destruction of their church. I suppose the church might have
> belonged to a rival denomination, but the report I saw indicated that it was
> their church.

Indeed.

Doublethink and/or ignorance is, of course, a required attribute :(

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 13:55 UTC

Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>> On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
>>>>> day from Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a
>>>>> 53% fully vaccinated rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly
>>>>> disease.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I
>>>>> wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
>>>>> protection from tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand
>>>>> their freedom from intrusive building codes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
>>>> church.
>>>
>>> Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
>>
>> Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing
>> very clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in
>> future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time
>> for something they actually like doing.
>>
>> But probably not.
>
> It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
> thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
> denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.

Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their
distress?

Phil Hobbs

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 by: Mike Coon - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:11 UTC

In article <j1u0qsFlisaU1@mid.individual.net>, sylvia@email.invalid
says...
>
> Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing
> very clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in future
> they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for
> something they actually like doing.
>
> But probably not.
>
> Sylvia.

Or even better, not indulging in something they merely like but
something that might do them good, like understanding statistics...

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 by: Tom Gardner - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:14 UTC

On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> Tom Gardner wrote:
>> On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>> On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>>>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
>>>>>> Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a 53% fully
>>>>>> vaccinated rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I wonder if
>>>>>> they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
>>>>>> tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand their freedom from
>>>>>> intrusive building codes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
>>>>
>>>> Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
>>>
>>> Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
>>> clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in future they can
>>> stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they
>>> actually like doing.
>>>
>>> But probably not.
>>
>> It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
>> thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
>> denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
>
> Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate.  How about, they love God and love
> their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?

Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.

I'm just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.

But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.

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 by: Gerhard Hoffmann - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:34 UTC

Am 15.12.21 um 15:14 schrieb Tom Gardner:
> On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:

>> Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate.  How about, they love God
>> and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in
>> their distress?
>
> Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
>
> I'm just reporting what some religious people actually do
> to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
> see history books and newspapers.
>
> But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
> distress in the first place.

Reminds me of a kid who breaks a leg of his hamster
and then expects praise because he plays doctor so nicely
for the rest of the day.

Gerhard

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 by: Tom Gardner - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 16:46 UTC

On 15/12/21 14:34, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
> Am 15.12.21 um 15:14 schrieb Tom Gardner:
>> On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>
>>> Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate.  How about, they love God and
>>> love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?
>>
>> Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
>>
>> I'm just reporting what some religious people actually do
>> to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
>> see history books and newspapers.
>>
>> But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
>> distress in the first place.
>
> Reminds me of a kid who breaks a leg of his hamster
> and then expects praise because he plays doctor so nicely
> for the rest of the day.

That's Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

"Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy: An Alarming Face of Child Abuse"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4341319/

I'm told we are all His childrebn.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 17:02 UTC

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 10:33:03 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>> > Rick C wrote:
>> > > 50 dead and it may rise to 100.
>> > How many are below 75.
>> > > Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
>> > How many are below 75.
>> What are you talking about???
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C.
>>
>> + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
>> + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
>
> Add Dixie Alley to the long list of things I haven't heard of.
><https://strangesounds.org/2019/09/us-tornado-map-these-twister-risk-maps-show-where-you-can-get-killed-by-a-tornado.html>

I was in one of those red dots, in Louisiana. It lifted the roof off
our house about an inch and dropped it back down. I had to go into the
attic and pound down about a hundred nail heads sticking up.

It wasn't bad otherwise, some fence damage and some shingles ripped
off the roof. Down there, the real killers are hurricanes.

The US gets a lot of dramatic weather. A couple of feet of snow in the
sierras yesterday.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 17:04 UTC

On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:14:06 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> Tom Gardner wrote:
>>> On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>>> On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
>>>>>>> 50 dead and it may rise to 100.  Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
>>>>>>> Covid and the count is on the rise again.  KY only has a 53% fully
>>>>>>> vaccinated rate.  I suppose they don't fear a deadly disease.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it stands to reason they don't fear tornadoes much either.  I wonder if
>>>>>>> they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
>>>>>>> tornadoes?  Most likely too many people demand their freedom from
>>>>>>> intrusive building codes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
>>>>>
>>>>> Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
>>>> clearly that he doesn't give a stuff about them, so that in future they can
>>>> stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they
>>>> actually like doing.
>>>>
>>>> But probably not.
>>>
>>> It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
>>> thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
>>> denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
>>
>> Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate.  How about, they love God and love
>> their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?
>
>Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
>
>I'm just reporting what some religious people actually do
>to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
>see history books and newspapers.
>
>But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
>distress in the first place.

Nasty people sneer at everything that's available.

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