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by: Maciej Wozniak - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 10:20 UTC

On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:04:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > In the meantime in the real world, Peano arithmetics
> > is a theory of numbers, not about theories. Godel's
> > theorem isn't a part of it. Godel has concocted a brandly
> > new theory, but somehow he has forgotten to
> > specify its assumptions.
> > There are some other reasons why his theorem has no
> > value, but they're all too muchg for [...]
>
>
> If you really want your confusion and misconceptions about

Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
and trying to pretend he knows something.
Tell me, poor stinker, what is your definition of
a "theory" in the terms of Peano arithmetic?
See: if a theorem is going to be a part of a theory,
it has to be formulable in the language of the
theory. Do you get it? Or are you too stupid even for
that, poor stinker?

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by: Python - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 10:24 UTC

Maciej Wozniak schwrote:
> On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:04:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
>> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> In the meantime in the real world, Peano arithmetics
>>> is a theory of numbers, not about theories. Godel's
>>> theorem isn't a part of it. Godel has concocted a brandly
>>> new theory, but somehow he has forgotten to
>>> specify its assumptions.
>>> There are some other reasons why his theorem has no
>>> value, but they're all too muchg for [...]
>>
>>
>> If you really want your confusion and misconceptions about
>
>
> Oh, stinker

"Godel has concocted a brandly new theory" — "Maciej Wozniak, one
of the best logicians Humanity ever had".

LOL!

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by: Maciej Wozniak - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 14:42 UTC

On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:24:21 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak schwrote:
> > On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:04:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> >> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>> In the meantime in the real world, Peano arithmetics
> >>> is a theory of numbers, not about theories. Godel's
> >>> theorem isn't a part of it. Godel has concocted a brandly
> >>> new theory, but somehow he has forgotten to
> >>> specify its assumptions.
> >>> There are some other reasons why his theorem has no
> >>> value, but they're all too muchg for [...]
> >>
> >>
> >> If you really want your confusion and misconceptions about
> >
> >
> > Oh, stinker
> "Godel has concocted a brandly new theory" — "Maciej Wozniak, one

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by: Python - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 17:08 UTC

Le 03/04/2022 à 16:42, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:24:21 UTC+2, Python wrote:
>> Maciej Wozniak schwrote:
>>> On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:04:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
>>>> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>> In the meantime in the real world, Peano arithmetics
>>>>> is a theory of numbers, not about theories. Godel's
>>>>> theorem isn't a part of it. Godel has concocted a brandly
>>>>> new theory, but somehow he has forgotten to
>>>>> specify its assumptions.
>>>>> There are some other reasons why his theorem has no
>>>>> value, but they're all too muchg for [...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you really want your confusion and misconceptions about
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, stinker
>> "Godel has concocted a brandly new theory" — "Maciej Wozniak, one
>
>
> Oh, stinker

Nurses! Wozniak is having a seizure again, he got stuck on a
single line of text and screams all day like a broken record.

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by: Maciej Wozniak - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 17:12 UTC

On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 19:08:18 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Le 03/04/2022 à 16:42, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> > On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:24:21 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> >> Maciej Wozniak schwrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 12:04:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> >>>> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>> In the meantime in the real world, Peano arithmetics
> >>>>> is a theory of numbers, not about theories. Godel's
> >>>>> theorem isn't a part of it. Godel has concocted a brandly
> >>>>> new theory, but somehow he has forgotten to
> >>>>> specify its assumptions.
> >>>>> There are some other reasons why his theorem has no
> >>>>> value, but they're all too muchg for [...]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If you really want your confusion and misconceptions about
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Oh, stinker
> >> "Godel has concocted a brandly new theory" — "Maciej Wozniak, one
> >
> >
> > Oh, stinker
> Nurses! Wozniak is having a seizure again, he got stuck on a

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