JanPB wrote:

>> No idea who you are, I just read you are accusing nations with
>> dictatorships. Which reveals a poorly hardwired brain.
>
> A piece of advice: post when you have something to say. For now I bid
> you good bye.

Stick that advice into your ass, and post with a name, like everybody
else. "JanPB" tells nothing.

What they do with people on the streets. Only IFF you have the stomach.
Incredible, 2022. Taken out of their cars, people were thinking they are
safe.

Ukraine Conflict being Blamed on the Russians
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nmwHS4zFOK08/

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 1:44:36 PM UTC-7, Jabe Jukado wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> >> No idea who you are, I just read you are accusing nations with
> >> dictatorships. Which reveals a poorly hardwired brain.
> >
> > A piece of advice: post when you have something to say. For now I bid
> > you good bye.
> Stick that advice into your ass, and post with a name, like everybody
> else. "JanPB" tells nothing.
>
> What they do with people on the streets. Only IFF you have the stomach.
> Incredible, 2022. Taken out of their cars, people were thinking they are
> safe.
>
> Ukraine Conflict being Blamed on the Russians
> https://www.bitchute.com/video/nmwHS4zFOK08/

That is likely because it's Russia fault? Also, you seem to have
anger management problems.

Yes, I know I keep promising to quit talking to you but you are
just too easy to make fun of :-)

--
Jan

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 1:44:36 PM UTC-7, Jabe Jukado wrote:

> Ukraine Conflict being Blamed on the Russians

> https://www.bitchute.com/video/nmwHS4zFOK08/

Ya think?

extreme nazi shit JanPB wrote:

>> Stick that advice into your ass, and post with a name, like everybody
>> else. "JanPB" tells nothing.
>>
>> What they do with people on the streets. Only IFF you have the stomach.
>> Incredible, 2022. Taken out of their cars, people were thinking they
>> are safe.
>> Ukraine Conflict being Blamed on the Russians
>> https://www.bitchute.com/video/nmwHS4zFOK08/
>
> That is likely because it's Russia fault? Also, you seem to have anger
> management problems.
> Yes, I know I keep promising to quit talking to you but you are just too

Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
> extreme nazi shit JanPB wrote:
>
> >> Stick that advice into your ass, and post with a name, like everybody
> >> else. "JanPB" tells nothing.
> >>
> >> What they do with people on the streets. Only IFF you have the stomach.
> >> Incredible, 2022. Taken out of their cars, people were thinking they
> >> are safe.
> >> Ukraine Conflict being Blamed on the Russians
> >> https://www.bitchute.com/video/nmwHS4zFOK08/
> >
> > That is likely because it's Russia fault? Also, you seem to have anger
> > management problems.
> > Yes, I know I keep promising to quit talking to you but you are just too
> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.

I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
ought to be addressed.

But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
the Kremlin as well).

It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.

So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.

--
Jan

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:

> > Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> > war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> > understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> ought to be addressed.
>
> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> the Kremlin as well).
>
> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
>
> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.

Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
I no longer buy into this myth.

Setting aside our political differences in regards to
Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
Putin must go.

JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 11:44:08 AM UTC-7, Jabe Jukado wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> >
> > >> that China is not working well for its prolets (ask any Uyghur) because
> > >> it does not has such a mechanism. Russia is another. Wikipedia is yet
> > >> another. D^3! (Down with Dirty Dirk!)
> > >
> > > Russia is a dictatorship, not oligarchy though (oligarchs who disagree
> > > with Putin end up either in prison or in exile, and sometimes poisoned).
> > Up till yesterday, the EU and the entire Brussels, said Poland is a
> > dictatorship. You idiot. You are a shame for the good Polish people.
> >
> > New EU sanctions aimed at Russia, move Europe closer to collapse
> > https://youtu.be/3OfJMIG5Ft8
> >
> > It stays actually in the Bible, that the _corruption_ and the _LGBTQ+_
> > only can be removed with _atomic_bombs_. So I don't know. I'm just
> > guessing. It's the Russia against the entire western anglo-saxo world.
> > So I don't know, but it's not good.
> >
> > 60,000 Nazi Troops Trapped in Kramatorsk, Fear they will Slaughter Local
> > Population
> > https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/06/60000-nazi-troops-trapped-in-kr
> > amatorsk-fear-they-will-slaughter-local-population/
>
> Why do you keep changing your name?

Perhaps because of: mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org" ?

Jan

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
>
> > > Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> > > war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> > > understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> > I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> > ought to be addressed.
> >
> > But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> > the Kremlin as well).
> >
> > It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> >
> > So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> I no longer buy into this myth.
Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges, corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD; The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....

Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has finally become as sick a Europe.
>
> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> Putin must go.

patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
>>
>>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
>>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
>>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
>>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
>>> ought to be addressed.
>>>
>>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
>>> the Kremlin as well).
>>>
>>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
>>>
>>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
>> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
>> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
>> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
>> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
>> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
>> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
>> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
>> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
>> I no longer buy into this myth.
> Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
> corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
> unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
> racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
> in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
> of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
> with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
> by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
> The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
> members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
>
> Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
> finally become as sick a Europe.
>>
>> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
>> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
>> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
>> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
>> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
>> Putin must go.
>

Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> >>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> >>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> >>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> >>> ought to be addressed.
> >>>
> >>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> >>> the Kremlin as well).
> >>>
> >>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> >>>
> >>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> >> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> >> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> >> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> >> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> >> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> >> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> >> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> >> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> >> I no longer buy into this myth.
> > Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
> > corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
> > unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
> > racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
> > in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
> > of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
> > with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
> > by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
> > The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
> > members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
> >
> > Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
> > finally become as sick a Europe.
> >>
> >> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> >> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> >> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> >> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> >> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> >> Putin must go.
> >
> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
Now that I have been cancelled off Nextdoor (your Wallingford relatives have probably read me) I need somewhere to marinate in a little politics before launching my next devastating salvo against relativity. Bodkin, how do you justify your continued belief in relativity given all the falsification that goes on here?

Kuhn would conclude that physics has entered an inter-paradigm period wrt relativity. Though SR and GR are dead letters to all but the unwashed public, a new theory which better fits the facts must first be propounded before Einstein's final fall into oblivion where he will reside for eternity with aether, impetus, polywater, phlogiston....

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 11:58:03 AM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> >>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> >>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> >>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> >>> ought to be addressed.
> >>>
> >>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> >>> the Kremlin as well).
> >>>
> >>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> >>>
> >>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> >> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> >> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> >> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> >> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> >> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> >> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> >> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> >> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> >> I no longer buy into this myth.
> > Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
> > corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
> > unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
> > racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
> > in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
> > of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
> > with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
> > by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
> > The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
> > members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
> >
> > Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
> > finally become as sick a Europe.
> >>
> >> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> >> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> >> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> >> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> >> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> >> Putin must go.
> >
> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?

None whatsoever. But the way that this thread was going,
it was difficult not to participate in these off-topic subjects.
And now we know that Pat is a crackpot in many other areas
than just physics...

Why was I not surprised?

patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
>>>>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
>>>>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
>>>>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
>>>>> ought to be addressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
>>>>> the Kremlin as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
>>>>>
>>>>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
>>>> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
>>>> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
>>>> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
>>>> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
>>>> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
>>>> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
>>>> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
>>>> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
>>>> I no longer buy into this myth.
>>> Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
>>> corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
>>> unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
>>> racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
>>> in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
>>> of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
>>> with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
>>> by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
>>> The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
>>> members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
>>>
>>> Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
>>> finally become as sick a Europe.
>>>>
>>>> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
>>>> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
>>>> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
>>>> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
>>>> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
>>>> Putin must go.
>>>
>> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> Now that I have been cancelled off Nextdoor (your Wallingford relatives
> have probably read me) I need somewhere to marinate in a little politics
> before launching my next devastating salvo against relativity. Bodkin,
> how do you justify your continued belief in relativity given all the
> falsification that goes on here?

Pat, as far as I know, there has been no falsification of relativity that
has happened here. As far as I know, not a single scientific theory that
has been established for more than a few years has ever been falsified
because of some undiscovered logical flaw, let alone one found by a wannabe
in some internet backwater. Not a single one.

Now, there are probably many silly claims of such falsifications, but not
one that has ever been treated credibly and then stood up to anything more
than casual inspection.

I tend, myself, not to base the truth of claims on what the claimant says,
but on what other, more serious assessors say. Empty claims are a nickel a
gross, as you know.

Now…. If you’re aware of an *experimental result* that is in direct
conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
be of scientific interest. Seeing as how none of those have been brought up
lately, did you have something in that category?

>
> Kuhn would conclude that physics has entered an inter-paradigm period wrt
> relativity. Though SR and GR are dead letters to all but the unwashed
> public, a new theory which better fits the facts must first be propounded
> before Einstein's final fall into oblivion where he will reside for
> eternity with aether, impetus, polywater, phlogiston....
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, 8 April 2022 at 19:55:32 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> >>>>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> >>>>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> >>>>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> >>>>> ought to be addressed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> >>>>> the Kremlin as well).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> >>>> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> >>>> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> >>>> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> >>>> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> >>>> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> >>>> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> >>>> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> >>>> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> >>>> I no longer buy into this myth.
> >>> Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
> >>> corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
> >>> unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
> >>> racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
> >>> in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
> >>> of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
> >>> with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
> >>> by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
> >>> The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
> >>> members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
> >>>
> >>> Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
> >>> finally become as sick a Europe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> >>>> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> >>>> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> >>>> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> >>>> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> >>>> Putin must go.
> >>>
> >> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > Now that I have been cancelled off Nextdoor (your Wallingford relatives
> > have probably read me) I need somewhere to marinate in a little politics
> > before launching my next devastating salvo against relativity. Bodkin,
> > how do you justify your continued belief in relativity given all the
> > falsification that goes on here?
> Pat, as far as I know, there has been no falsification of relativity that
> has happened here.

In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden by
your insane Shit TAI keep measuring t'=t, just like all
serious clocks always did.

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:55:32 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> >>>>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> >>>>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> >>>>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> >>>>> ought to be addressed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> >>>>> the Kremlin as well).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> >>>> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> >>>> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> >>>> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> >>>> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> >>>> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> >>>> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> >>>> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> >>>> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> >>>> I no longer buy into this myth.
> >>> Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
> >>> corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
> >>> unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
> >>> racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
> >>> in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
> >>> of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
> >>> with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
> >>> by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
> >>> The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
> >>> members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
> >>>
> >>> Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
> >>> finally become as sick a Europe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> >>>> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> >>>> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> >>>> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> >>>> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> >>>> Putin must go.
> >>>
> >> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > Now that I have been cancelled off Nextdoor (your Wallingford relatives
> > have probably read me) I need somewhere to marinate in a little politics
> > before launching my next devastating salvo against relativity. Bodkin,
> > how do you justify your continued belief in relativity given all the
> > falsification that goes on here?
> Pat, as far as I know, there has been no falsification of relativity that
> has happened here. As far as I know, not a single scientific theory that
> has been established for more than a few years has ever been falsified
> because of some undiscovered logical flaw, let alone one found by a wannabe
> in some internet backwater. Not a single one.
>
> Now, there are probably many silly claims of such falsifications, but not
> one that has ever been treated credibly and then stood up to anything more
> than casual inspection.
>
> I tend, myself, not to base the truth of claims on what the claimant says,
> but on what other, more serious assessors say. Empty claims are a nickel a
> gross, as you know.
>
> Now…. If you’re aware of an *experimental result* that is in direct
> conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
> be of scientific interest. Seeing as how none of those have been brought up
> lately, did you have something in that category?
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate
> >
> > Kuhn would conclude that physics has entered an inter-paradigm period wrt
> > relativity. Though SR and GR are dead letters to all but the unwashed
> > public, a new theory which better fits the facts must first be propounded
> > before Einstein's final fall into oblivion where he will reside for
> > eternity with aether, impetus, polywater, phlogiston....
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:55:32 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
>>>>>>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
>>>>>>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
>>>>>>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
>>>>>>> ought to be addressed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
>>>>>>> the Kremlin as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
>>>>>> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
>>>>>> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
>>>>>> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
>>>>>> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
>>>>>> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
>>>>>> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
>>>>>> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
>>>>>> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
>>>>>> I no longer buy into this myth.
>>>>> Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
>>>>> corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
>>>>> unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
>>>>> racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
>>>>> in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
>>>>> of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
>>>>> with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
>>>>> by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
>>>>> The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
>>>>> members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
>>>>> finally become as sick a Europe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
>>>>>> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
>>>>>> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
>>>>>> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
>>>>>> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
>>>>>> Putin must go.
>>>>>
>>>> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> Now that I have been cancelled off Nextdoor (your Wallingford relatives
>>> have probably read me) I need somewhere to marinate in a little politics
>>> before launching my next devastating salvo against relativity. Bodkin,
>>> how do you justify your continued belief in relativity given all the
>>> falsification that goes on here?
>> Pat, as far as I know, there has been no falsification of relativity that
>> has happened here. As far as I know, not a single scientific theory that
>> has been established for more than a few years has ever been falsified
>> because of some undiscovered logical flaw, let alone one found by a wannabe
>> in some internet backwater. Not a single one.
>>
>> Now, there are probably many silly claims of such falsifications, but not
>> one that has ever been treated credibly and then stood up to anything more
>> than casual inspection.
>>
>> I tend, myself, not to base the truth of claims on what the claimant says,
>> but on what other, more serious assessors say. Empty claims are a nickel a
>> gross, as you know.
>>
>> Now…. If you’re aware of an *experimental result* that is in direct
>> conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
>> be of scientific interest. Seeing as how none of those have been brought up
>> lately, did you have something in that category?
> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate

Perhaps there is a misunderstanding. This is not an example of an
experimental result that is in direct conflict with an agreed-upon claim
that relativity makes. This is an example of an old law that turns out to
be incorrect (Kepler’s law) and is inconsistent with relativity. This is
not a surprise. Newton’s law of gravity is also inconsistent with
relativity.

Now, if you have an example of an *experimental result* that is in direct
conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
be of scientific interest.

>>>
>>> Kuhn would conclude that physics has entered an inter-paradigm period wrt
>>> relativity. Though SR and GR are dead letters to all but the unwashed
>>> public, a new theory which better fits the facts must first be propounded
>>> before Einstein's final fall into oblivion where he will reside for
>>> eternity with aether, impetus, polywater, phlogiston....
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

J. J. Lodder wrote:

>> Why do you keep changing your name?
>
> Perhaps because of: mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org" ?
>
> Jan

wow, is it your fucking name, you dog licking balls. Want us to mail abuse
you??

JanPB wrote:

> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change
> this.
>
> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.

🏄‍♀️🌊 Period my ass. The governmental nazi "ukraine" was killing russian
people since western coup detat 2014. You lying dog licking balls. And was
asking for atomic bombs. The poorest country in the fucking europe, a nazi
shithole, asking for atomic bombs. Having numerous *bio_weapon_labs* in
advance. You dog lying licking balls. The poorest shithole in the fucking
europe.🏄‍♀️🌊

On 4/8/2022 8:26 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 11:44:08 AM UTC-7, Jabe Jukado wrote:
>>> JanPB wrote:
>>>
>>>>> that China is not working well for its prolets (ask any Uyghur) because
>>>>> it does not has such a mechanism. Russia is another. Wikipedia is yet
>>>>> another. D^3! (Down with Dirty Dirk!)
>>>>
>>>> Russia is a dictatorship, not oligarchy though (oligarchs who disagree
>>>> with Putin end up either in prison or in exile, and sometimes poisoned).
>>> Up till yesterday, the EU and the entire Brussels, said Poland is a
>>> dictatorship. You idiot. You are a shame for the good Polish people.
>>>
>>> New EU sanctions aimed at Russia, move Europe closer to collapse
>>> https://youtu.be/3OfJMIG5Ft8
>>>
>>> It stays actually in the Bible, that the _corruption_ and the _LGBTQ+_
>>> only can be removed with _atomic_bombs_. So I don't know. I'm just
>>> guessing. It's the Russia against the entire western anglo-saxo world.
>>> So I don't know, but it's not good.
>>>
>>> 60,000 Nazi Troops Trapped in Kramatorsk, Fear they will Slaughter Local
>>> Population
>>> https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/06/60000-nazi-troops-trapped-in-kr
>>> amatorsk-fear-they-will-slaughter-local-population/
>>
>> Why do you keep changing your name?
>
> Perhaps because of: mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org" ?
>
This is the infamous nymshifting troll, which operates out of Russia. It
shifts nyms to evade killfiles and has been doing so for years. It
shifts nyms to be sure you see the latest lies from the Kremlin,
especially the most absurd ones.

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:04:26 PM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:55:32 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> >>>>>>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> >>>>>>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> >>>>>>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> >>>>>>> ought to be addressed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> >>>>>>> the Kremlin as well).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> >>>>>> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> >>>>>> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> >>>>>> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> >>>>>> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> >>>>>> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> >>>>>> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> >>>>>> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> >>>>>> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> >>>>>> I no longer buy into this myth.
> >>>>> Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
> >>>>> corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
> >>>>> unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
> >>>>> racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
> >>>>> in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
> >>>>> of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
> >>>>> with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
> >>>>> by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
> >>>>> The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
> >>>>> members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
> >>>>> finally become as sick a Europe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> >>>>>> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> >>>>>> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> >>>>>> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> >>>>>> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> >>>>>> Putin must go.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>> Now that I have been cancelled off Nextdoor (your Wallingford relatives
> >>> have probably read me) I need somewhere to marinate in a little politics
> >>> before launching my next devastating salvo against relativity. Bodkin,
> >>> how do you justify your continued belief in relativity given all the
> >>> falsification that goes on here?
> >> Pat, as far as I know, there has been no falsification of relativity that
> >> has happened here. As far as I know, not a single scientific theory that
> >> has been established for more than a few years has ever been falsified
> >> because of some undiscovered logical flaw, let alone one found by a wannabe
> >> in some internet backwater. Not a single one.
> >>
> >> Now, there are probably many silly claims of such falsifications, but not
> >> one that has ever been treated credibly and then stood up to anything more
> >> than casual inspection.
> >>
> >> I tend, myself, not to base the truth of claims on what the claimant says,
> >> but on what other, more serious assessors say. Empty claims are a nickel a
> >> gross, as you know.
> >>
> >> Now…. If you’re aware of an *experimental result* that is in direct
> >> conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
> >> be of scientific interest. Seeing as how none of those have been brought up
> >> lately, did you have something in that category?
> > https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate
> Perhaps there is a misunderstanding. This is not an example of an
> experimental result that is in direct conflict with an agreed-upon claim
> that relativity makes. This is an example of an old law that turns out to
> be incorrect (Kepler’s law) and is inconsistent with relativity. This is
> not a surprise. Newton’s law of gravity is also inconsistent with
> relativity.
>
> Now, if you have an example of an *experimental result* that is in direct
> conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
> be of scientific interest.

Bodkin, Richard Hertz once referred to you as an educated man. But I have my doubts. Clearly, you have never studied Kuhn. The world of Science must wait on an alternative paradigm AND THEN design a "crucial experiment" which will decide between the old and the new theories. Galileo's dropping of the two cannon balls is such an experiment.

But that kind of groupthink science is almost over. We are indeed at the dawn of the post-scientific age. We now realize that theorizing is largely a childish pastime and can never represent even an approximation to the Truth, which is truly out there.

Let's play a game Bodkin. What would you describe as an adequate Kuhnian crucial experiment for SR?

If you have something to type tonight Bodkin then please type fast, as I plan to be incapacitated by licker, spirits and strong drink, before the shank of the evening. Probably in the Green Lake District.
>
> >>>
> >>> Kuhn would conclude that physics has entered an inter-paradigm period wrt
> >>> relativity. Though SR and GR are dead letters to all but the unwashed
> >>> public, a new theory which better fits the facts must first be propounded
> >>> before Einstein's final fall into oblivion where he will reside for
> >>> eternity with aether, impetus, polywater, phlogiston....
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:07:18 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:04:26 PM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:55:32 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> > >>>>>>>> war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> > >>>>>>>> understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> > >>>>>>> I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> > >>>>>>> ought to be addressed.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> > >>>>>>> the Kremlin as well).
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> > >>>>>> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> > >>>>>> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> > >>>>>> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> > >>>>>> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> > >>>>>> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> > >>>>>> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> > >>>>>> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> > >>>>>> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> > >>>>>> I no longer buy into this myth.
> > >>>>> Me neither, Prokary. The silencing of 50% of Americans by colleges,
> > >>>>> corporations and government agencies; the killing of at least 100 million
> > >>>>> unborn American citizens; the doctrine of future racism as the cure for
> > >>>>> racism in the past; the validating of widespread unconstitutional voting
> > >>>>> in the presidential election; the official sexualizing and sex grooming
> > >>>>> of K-3 children in public schools; the burning & looting of US cities
> > >>>>> with no consequence for politically correct rioters; the now proven lies
> > >>>>> by media, the FBI, CIA and democrats about Russia, Ukraine, Iraqi WMD;
> > >>>>> The suppression of now proven corruption by the President and his family
> > >>>>> members by the FBI, the Congress and the media....
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yes Prokary, I agree. American exceptionalism is gone. America has
> > >>>>> finally become as sick a Europe.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> > >>>>>> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> > >>>>>> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> > >>>>>> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> > >>>>>> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> > >>>>>> Putin must go.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Relevance in any capacity to physics or relativity?
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > >>> Now that I have been cancelled off Nextdoor (your Wallingford relatives
> > >>> have probably read me) I need somewhere to marinate in a little politics
> > >>> before launching my next devastating salvo against relativity. Bodkin,
> > >>> how do you justify your continued belief in relativity given all the
> > >>> falsification that goes on here?
> > >> Pat, as far as I know, there has been no falsification of relativity that
> > >> has happened here. As far as I know, not a single scientific theory that
> > >> has been established for more than a few years has ever been falsified
> > >> because of some undiscovered logical flaw, let alone one found by a wannabe
> > >> in some internet backwater. Not a single one.
> > >>
> > >> Now, there are probably many silly claims of such falsifications, but not
> > >> one that has ever been treated credibly and then stood up to anything more
> > >> than casual inspection.
> > >>
> > >> I tend, myself, not to base the truth of claims on what the claimant says,
> > >> but on what other, more serious assessors say. Empty claims are a nickel a
> > >> gross, as you know.
> > >>
> > >> Now…. If you’re aware of an *experimental result* that is in direct
> > >> conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
> > >> be of scientific interest. Seeing as how none of those have been brought up
> > >> lately, did you have something in that category?
> > > https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate
> > Perhaps there is a misunderstanding. This is not an example of an
> > experimental result that is in direct conflict with an agreed-upon claim
> > that relativity makes. This is an example of an old law that turns out to
> > be incorrect (Kepler’s law) and is inconsistent with relativity.. This is
> > not a surprise. Newton’s law of gravity is also inconsistent with
> > relativity.
> >
> > Now, if you have an example of an *experimental result* that is in direct
> > conflict with an agreed-upon claim that relativity makes, that would likely
> > be of scientific interest.
> Bodkin, Richard Hertz once referred to you as an educated man. But I have my doubts. Clearly, you have never studied Kuhn. The world of Science must wait on an alternative paradigm AND THEN design a "crucial experiment" which will decide between the old and the new theories. Galileo's dropping of the two cannon balls is such an experiment.
>
> But that kind of groupthink science is almost over. We are indeed at the dawn of the post-scientific age. We now realize that theorizing is largely a childish pastime and can never represent even an approximation to the Truth, which is truly out there.
>
> Let's play a game Bodkin. What would you describe as an adequate Kuhnian crucial experiment for SR?
>
> If you have something to type tonight Bodkin then please type fast, as I plan to be incapacitated by licker, spirits and strong drink, before the shank of the evening. Probably in the Green Lake District.

I note that you have sided with foolish Dale on physics stack, that an obvious observed empirical law of orbital physics somehow is not a law because it contradicts the postulates of relativity. Dale is a fool. He may even be operating in this forum under an assumed name. Calling Kepler's third a non-relativistic limiting case in no way gets you and Dale out of the Dolnundrum. My little thought experiment will go down in history with Galileo's anvil and hammer tied together with a rope, as an equivalent work of theory demolishing genius. Now I must nap to have strength for a hard and well earned night of carousing. Thank goodness the dirty Seattle progressives have defunded the police--I might even skinny dip in Green Lake.
> >
> > >>>
> > >>> Kuhn would conclude that physics has entered an inter-paradigm period wrt
> > >>> relativity. Though SR and GR are dead letters to all but the unwashed
> > >>> public, a new theory which better fits the facts must first be propounded
> > >>> before Einstein's final fall into oblivion where he will reside for
> > >>> eternity with aether, impetus, polywater, phlogiston....
> > >>>
> > >> --
> > >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > >
> > --
> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Michael Moroney wrote:

>>>> It stays actually in the Bible, that the _corruption_ and the
>>>> _LGBTQ+_ only can be removed with _atomic_bombs_. So I don't know.
>>>> I'm just guessing. It's the Russia against the entire western
>>>> anglo-saxo world. So I don't know, but it's not good.
>>>>
>>>> 60,000 Nazi Troops Trapped in Kramatorsk, Fear they will Slaughter
>>>> Local Population
>>>> https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/06/60000-nazi-troops-trapped-in-kramatorsk-fear-they-will-slaughter-local-population/
>>>
>>> Why do you keep changing your name?
>>
>> Perhaps because of: mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org" ?
>>
> This is the infamous nymshifting troll, which operates out of Russia. It

You slavic nazi immigrants in america don't even undrestand the meaning
of the anglo-saxon words. Ie "infamous", something which you remember
every time. What a dog licking balls.

Op 09-apr.-2022 om 02:43 schreef Michael Moroney:
> On 4/8/2022 8:26 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 11:44:08 AM UTC-7, Jabe Jukado wrote:
>>>> JanPB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> that China is not working well for its prolets (ask any Uyghur)
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> it does not has such a mechanism. Russia is another. Wikipedia is yet
>>>>>> another. D^3! (Down with Dirty Dirk!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Russia is a dictatorship, not oligarchy though (oligarchs who disagree
>>>>> with Putin end up either in prison or in exile, and sometimes
>>>>> poisoned).
>>>> Up till yesterday, the EU and the entire Brussels, said Poland is a
>>>> dictatorship. You idiot. You are a shame for the good Polish people.
>>>>
>>>> New EU sanctions aimed at Russia, move Europe closer to collapse
>>>> https://youtu.be/3OfJMIG5Ft8
>>>>
>>>> It stays actually in the Bible, that the _corruption_ and the _LGBTQ+_
>>>> only can be removed with _atomic_bombs_. So I don't know. I'm just
>>>> guessing. It's the Russia against the entire western anglo-saxo world.
>>>> So I don't know, but it's not good.
>>>>
>>>> 60,000 Nazi Troops Trapped in Kramatorsk, Fear they will Slaughter
>>>> Local
>>>> Population
>>>> https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/06/60000-nazi-troops-trapped-in-kr
>>>>
>>>> amatorsk-fear-they-will-slaughter-local-population/
>>>
>>> Why do you keep changing your name?
>>
>> Perhaps because of:  mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"  ?
>>
> This is the infamous nymshifting troll, which operates out of Russia. It
> shifts nyms to evade killfiles and has been doing so for years. It
> shifts nyms to be sure you see the latest lies from the Kremlin,
> especially the most absurd ones.

It is VERY easy to killfile and make it impossible for them to evade it.

Dirk Vdm

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

>> shifts nyms to be sure you see the latest lies from the Kremlin,
>> especially the most absurd ones.
>
> It is VERY easy to killfile and make it impossible for them to evade it.

but you have to have an active internet connection.

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 2:30:09 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:06:04 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 9:40:00 AM UTC-7, Rene Kudara wrote:
>
> > > Even the mainstream media says the nazi "ukrainians" are committing nazi
> > > war_crimes, you stinking sack of subhuman excrement. Which part you don't
> > > understand. You are so fucking stupid I don't believe it's true.
> > I never denied a nasty Nazi streak in Ukrainian politics, it's something that
> > ought to be addressed.
> >
> > But first order of business is that Putin leaves Ukraine (and, preferably,
> > the Kremlin as well).
> >
> > It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change this.
> >
> > So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> Likewise there is a nasty Fascist streak in US politics.
> This is not something I can blame on Trump. It as always
> been there. Until a few years ago, I rather blindly accepted
> the myth of "American exceptionalism", believing that
> despite some extremely dark periods, the basic American
> institutions and traditions epitomized in the documents
> left by the Founding Fathers had always managed to
> prevail and in all likelihood would prevail in the future.
> I no longer buy into this myth.

This was (somewhat tenuously) true until the invasion
of Iraq in 2003. With that invasion, the US has lost what
was probably its biggest single moral claim on the
international stage: it attacked a country unprovoked.
The loss of this moral superiority was noticed soon
after the war by the CIA in terms of the suddenly
increased difficulty for recruiting people abroad.
(That particular moral superiority had been previously
grudgingly silently acknowledged even by US enemies.)

> Setting aside our political differences in regards to
> Trump, since I know that you come at this from an
> entirely different perspective than I do, I absolutely agree
> with you in regards to Putin. Although the common
> Russian man-in-the-street adores this mass murderer,
> Putin must go.

I'm not a big fan of Trump, I only consider the methods
employed to fight him by the Left infinitely worse than
Trump himself.

I'm also puzzled to this day by the sheer *level* of hatred
toward Trump by the US intelligentsia, that level being
much lower than the hatred (if any) felt toward George
W. Bush and Dick Cheney who are genuine war criminals.

So I'm worried the moral compass of the American
intelligentsia is broken.

That's where my griping is coming from.

Also, I do consider Biden much worse than Trump, again
because of the issues the well-off intelligentsia does not
have to deal with every day, like buying food, etc.

--
Jan

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 4:07:01 PM UTC-7, Ward Matsushita wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> > It was Putin who attacked, period. No amount of your yelling will change
> > this.
> >
> > So after Putin is gone, we can talk. But not earlier. Period.
> 🏄‍♀️🌊 Period my ass.

Yes, period. Putin must leave first.

> The governmental nazi "ukraine" was killing russian

That does not excuse Putin's bombing hospitals. All that talk about
the Nazis will have to wait until Putin is out of Ukraine with his nose
firmly rubbed in his own shit first.

The only option open to Putin now is peace talks and withdrawal.
He brought this fiasco on himself and now has to face
consequences like a man he is so eager to demonstrate on TV that
he is.

> people since western coup detat 2014. You lying dog licking balls.

None of it matters at this point, after attacks on civilians and hospitals.
All that should be considered in due course, but AFTER Putin leaves Ukraine..

> And was
> asking for atomic bombs. The poorest country in the fucking europe, a nazi
> shithole, asking for atomic bombs. Having numerous *bio_weapon_labs* in
> advance. You dog lying licking balls. The poorest shithole in the fucking
> europe.🏄‍♀️🌊

Stop frothing at the mouth, it ruins your looks. Putin committed war crimes,
now he has to eat that frog. End of conversation, 2+2=4 and all that.

--
Jan