On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 6:17:42 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:15:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 2:09:01 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > > On 8/11/2023 12:45 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The big advantage of tubeless is they don't get pinch flats and if you've ever been 20 miles from home and gotten a pinch flat and used your last tube and CO2 you know how worried you can get about pinch flats.
> > > > If only they would invent a portable tire pump!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > - Frank Krygowski
> > > We understand that you ride with saddlebags and multiple spare parts for every occasion. I don't and won't
> > That's fine, do what you like. I wouldn't like to walk my bikes home, and I've never had to.
> >
> > - Frank Krygowski
> The reason for that is that you either don't ride, or you always ride in a group that can supply back up support. Frank - you grow tiresome pretending that you're Mr. Bicycle. It is like your crap that you disagreed with Jobst. You kissed his ass and never did one thing other than mirror his statements as if they were yours. Though I hate to talk badly of the dead, especially since his son may be watching, but I am the only one here that actually knew him and he was very far from perfect. When he got so angry for being criticized that he publish what he thought was my address, it showed just what sort of jerk he really was. Essentially he was sic'ing his attack dogs on what turned out to be my mother. This also led to others of his ilk publishing the address of another Tom Kunich who also lived in San Leandro and his mother Mary Kunich who was no relation of any kind. You may not have approved of that but you said NOTHING.
>
> How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?

You tell us.....

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 6:17:42 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:15:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 2:09:01 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > > > On 8/11/2023 12:45 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The big advantage of tubeless is they don't get pinch flats and if you've ever been 20 miles from home and gotten a pinch flat and used your last tube and CO2 you know how worried you can get about pinch flats.
> > > > > If only they would invent a portable tire pump!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > - Frank Krygowski
> > > > We understand that you ride with saddlebags and multiple spare parts for every occasion. I don't and won't
> > > That's fine, do what you like. I wouldn't like to walk my bikes home, and I've never had to.
> > >
> > > - Frank Krygowski
> > The reason for that is that you either don't ride, or you always ride in a group that can supply back up support. Frank - you grow tiresome pretending that you're Mr. Bicycle. It is like your crap that you disagreed with Jobst. You kissed his ass and never did one thing other than mirror his statements as if they were yours. Though I hate to talk badly of the dead, especially since his son may be watching, but I am the only one here that actually knew him and he was very far from perfect. When he got so angry for being criticized that he publish what he thought was my address, it showed just what sort of jerk he really was. Essentially he was sic'ing his attack dogs on what turned out to be my mother. This also led to others of his ilk publishing the address of another Tom Kunich who also lived in San Leandro and his mother Mary Kunich who was no relation of any kind. You may not have approved of that but you said NOTHING.
> >
> > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> You tell us.....
I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.

Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me. Your comments about using a power meter were silly. If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home. And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing. Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult. You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running. If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.

I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail..com wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >
> > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > You tell us.....
> I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.

Are they messing with your meds again?

>
> Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.

Because it's fun.

> Your comments about using a power meter were silly.

Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?

> If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.

Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.

> And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.

I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.

> Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.

I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.

> You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.

Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?

> If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.

Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.

> I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.

You can't criticize it....yet you do....

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > You tell us.....
> > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> Are they messing with your meds again?
> >
> > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> Because it's fun.
> > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> You can't criticize it....yet you do....

Are you man enough to meet me face to face? I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds". Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"? If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters you obviously hold contempt for the entire world. You have told us the crap bikes you have.

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > You tell us.....
> > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > >
> > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > Because it's fun.
> > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> Are you man enough to meet me face to face?

Yup.

> I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".

OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!

> Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?

I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".

> If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters

You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.

> you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.

No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).

> You have told us the crap bikes you have.
Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?

What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".

I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > >
> > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me..
> > > Because it's fun.
> > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> Yup.
> > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
>
> What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
>
> I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).

"Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > >
> > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > Yup.
> > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> >
> > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
> >
> > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.

lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....

First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.

Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group..
> > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > > Yup.
> > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power"..
> > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> > >
> > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
> > >
> > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
> lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
>
> First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
>
> Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.

No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer. You don't even know how much money engineers make

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > > > Yup.
> > > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> > > >
> > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power"..
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> > > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
> > lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
> >
> > First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
> >
> > Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.
> No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer. You don't even know how much money engineers make

I know that 30 years ago a non-degreed engineer wasn't making $250K

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > > > Yup.
> > > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> > > >
> > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power"..
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> > > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
> > lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
> >
> > First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
> >
> > Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.
>
> No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer

Aww...poor tommy's jealous that I have the skills to manage my job to allow some time on the internet - and that my company doesn't mind that IT do it.. Too bad you never impressed you managers to such an extent that they gave you that latitude.

> You don't even know how much money engineers make

I know that I'm making more than the local average for my postion, and I know that a non degreed engineer wasn't making $250K 20+ years ago.

What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "I'm full of shit and can't produce any evidence that FTP means Full Time Power". Now we can also add RPE to the (very) long list of things tommy doesn't understand.

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:35:29 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail..com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > > > > Yup.
> > > > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > > > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > > > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > > > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > > > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > > > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > > > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> > > > >
> > > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> > > > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
> > > lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
> > >
> > > First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
> > >
> > > Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.
> >
> > No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer
> Aww...poor tommy's jealous that I have the skills to manage my job to allow some time on the internet - and that my company doesn't mind that IT do it. Too bad you never impressed you managers to such an extent that they gave you that latitude.
> > You don't even know how much money engineers make
> I know that I'm making more than the local average for my postion, and I know that a non degreed engineer wasn't making $250K 20+ years ago.
>
> What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "I'm full of shit and can't produce any evidence that FTP means Full Time Power". Now we can also add RPE to the (very) long list of things tommy doesn't understand.

So that is what you call it!. Managing your job so that you can play on the Internet. I should have learned how to do that. But I seemed to always have jobs that took up all of my work hours plus overtime, plus getting there early in the morning to set everything up for the day.

If you're making more than the average engineer in your area, someone is not playing with a full deck and your employers are unlikely to remain in business in a non-Obama/Biden job market. No wonder you think that Obama and Biden are so wonderful.

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:55:50 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:35:29 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > > > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > > > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > > > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > > > > > Yup.
> > > > > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > > > > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > > > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > > > > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > > > > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > > > > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > > > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > > > > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > > > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > > > > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> > > > > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
> > > > lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
> > > >
> > > > First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
> > > >
> > > > Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.
> > >
> > > No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer
> > Aww...poor tommy's jealous that I have the skills to manage my job to allow some time on the internet - and that my company doesn't mind that IT do it. Too bad you never impressed you managers to such an extent that they gave you that latitude.
> > > You don't even know how much money engineers make
> > I know that I'm making more than the local average for my postion, and I know that a non degreed engineer wasn't making $250K 20+ years ago.
> >
> > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "I'm full of shit and can't produce any evidence that FTP means Full Time Power". Now we can also add RPE to the (very) long list of things tommy doesn't understand.
> So that is what you call it!. Managing your job so that you can play on the Internet. I should have learned how to do that. But I seemed to always have jobs that took up all of my work hours plus overtime, plus getting there early in the morning to set everything up for the day.
>
> If you're making more than the average engineer in your area, someone is not playing with a full deck and your employers are unlikely to remain in business in a non-Obama/Biden job market.

My company has been around since 1936, with no signs of slowing down (we just missed profit-margin stretch goal for FY 22). And BTW - republican administrations are typically much more friendly to my industry. Considering we did as well though trump as we did though both Obama and Biden (marginal drop in sales/profit through the pandemic, I got kudos and a nice raise for managing component supply chain issues), this company isn't going anywhere for a long, long time, so you can shove your economic/political chicken-little forecasting firmly up your ass while wearing your tin-foil hat.

> No wonder you think that Obama and Biden are so wonderful.

I liked Obama, Biden, not so much. But considering the alternative of an ignorant arrogant narcissist completely devoid of any moral foundation, Biden was best choice.

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:48:44 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail..com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:55:50 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:35:29 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that..
> > > > > > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > > > > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > > > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > > > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > > > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > > > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > > > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > > > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > > > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > > > > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > > > > > > Yup.
> > > > > > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > > > > > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > > > > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > > > > > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > > > > > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > > > > > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > > > > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > > > > > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > > > > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > > > > > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> > > > > > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
> > > > > lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
> > > > >
> > > > > First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.
> > > >
> > > > No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer
> > > Aww...poor tommy's jealous that I have the skills to manage my job to allow some time on the internet - and that my company doesn't mind that IT do it. Too bad you never impressed you managers to such an extent that they gave you that latitude.
> > > > You don't even know how much money engineers make
> > > I know that I'm making more than the local average for my postion, and I know that a non degreed engineer wasn't making $250K 20+ years ago.
> > >
> > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "I'm full of shit and can't produce any evidence that FTP means Full Time Power". Now we can also add RPE to the (very) long list of things tommy doesn't understand.
> > So that is what you call it!. Managing your job so that you can play on the Internet. I should have learned how to do that. But I seemed to always have jobs that took up all of my work hours plus overtime, plus getting there early in the morning to set everything up for the day.
> >
> > If you're making more than the average engineer in your area, someone is not playing with a full deck and your employers are unlikely to remain in business in a non-Obama/Biden job market.
> My company has been around since 1936, with no signs of slowing down (we just missed profit-margin stretch goal for FY 22). And BTW - republican administrations are typically much more friendly to my industry. Considering we did as well though trump as we did though both Obama and Biden (marginal drop in sales/profit through the pandemic, I got kudos and a nice raise for managing component supply chain issues), this company isn't going anywhere for a long, long time, so you can shove your economic/political chicken-little forecasting firmly up your ass while wearing your tin-foil hat.
> > No wonder you think that Obama and Biden are so wonderful.
> I liked Obama, Biden, not so much. But considering the alternative of an ignorant arrogant narcissist completely devoid of any moral foundation, Biden was best choice.

Thanks for telling us what you're real job is. Not engineering.

On 8/17/2023 1:48 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> My company has been around since 1936, with no signs of slowing down (we just missed profit-margin stretch goal for FY 22). And BTW - republican administrations are typically much more friendly to my industry. Considering we did as well though trump as we did though both Obama and Biden (marginal drop in sales/profit through the pandemic, I got kudos and a nice raise for managing component supply chain issues), this company isn't going anywhere for a long, long time, so you can shove your economic/political chicken-little forecasting firmly up your ass while wearing your tin-foil hat.

Historically, the economy has performed much better during Democratic
administrations than Republican administrations. Economic growth, job
creation and industrial production all have done better under Democratic
presidents.

Also recall that both Obama and Clinton inherited an economy in trouble,
Clinton from Reagan/Bush and Obama from W. The recovery from the failed
policies of Reagan/Bush and W could only have occurred under a
Democratic administration. Trump was fortunate to inherit a very robust
economy from Obama. If Trump had not mismanaged the Covid pandemic so
terribly bad he would almost certainly have been re-elected.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:48:44 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:55:50 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:35:29 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-7, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
> > > > > > > > > > > > You tell us.....
> > > > > > > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
> > > > > > > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
> > > > > > > > > > Because it's fun.
> > > > > > > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
> > > > > > > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
> > > > > > > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
> > > > > > > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
> > > > > > > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
> > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
> > > > > > > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
> > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
> > > > > > > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
> > > > > > > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
> > > > > > > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
> > > > > > > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
> > > > > > > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
> > > > > > > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
> > > > > > > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
> > > > > > > > Yup.
> > > > > > > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
> > > > > > > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
> > > > > > > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
> > > > > > > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
> > > > > > > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
> > > > > > > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
> > > > > > > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
> > > > > > > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
> > > > > > > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
> > > > > > > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
> > > > > > > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
> > > > > > lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.
> > > > >
> > > > > No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer
> > > > Aww...poor tommy's jealous that I have the skills to manage my job to allow some time on the internet - and that my company doesn't mind that IT do it. Too bad you never impressed you managers to such an extent that they gave you that latitude.
> > > > > You don't even know how much money engineers make
> > > > I know that I'm making more than the local average for my postion, and I know that a non degreed engineer wasn't making $250K 20+ years ago.
> > > >
> > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "I'm full of shit and can't produce any evidence that FTP means Full Time Power". Now we can also add RPE to the (very) long list of things tommy doesn't understand.
> > > So that is what you call it!. Managing your job so that you can play on the Internet. I should have learned how to do that. But I seemed to always have jobs that took up all of my work hours plus overtime, plus getting there early in the morning to set everything up for the day.
> > >
> > > If you're making more than the average engineer in your area, someone is not playing with a full deck and your employers are unlikely to remain in business in a non-Obama/Biden job market.
> > My company has been around since 1936, with no signs of slowing down (we just missed profit-margin stretch goal for FY 22). And BTW - republican administrations are typically much more friendly to my industry. Considering we did as well though trump as we did though both Obama and Biden (marginal drop in sales/profit through the pandemic, I got kudos and a nice raise for managing component supply chain issues), this company isn't going anywhere for a long, long time, so you can shove your economic/political chicken-little forecasting firmly up your ass while wearing your tin-foil hat.
> > > No wonder you think that Obama and Biden are so wonderful.
> > I liked Obama, Biden, not so much. But considering the alternative of an ignorant arrogant narcissist completely devoid of any moral foundation, Biden was best choice.
> Thanks for telling us what you're real job is. Not engineering.

So alternative component selection to replace unavailable parts - involving analysis of performance characteristics and engineering qualification testing isn't engineering? I guess that shows how much real engineering you've actually done. Tell us oh great one, how would you characterize the thermal junction rating of a semiconductor device to validate Intrinsic Safety performance?

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 6:16:19 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> On 8/17/2023 1:48 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > My company has been around since 1936, with no signs of slowing down (we just missed profit-margin stretch goal for FY 22). And BTW - republican administrations are typically much more friendly to my industry. Considering we did as well though trump as we did though both Obama and Biden (marginal drop in sales/profit through the pandemic, I got kudos and a nice raise for managing component supply chain issues), this company isn't going anywhere for a long, long time, so you can shove your economic/political chicken-little forecasting firmly up your ass while wearing your tin-foil hat.
> Historically, the economy has performed much better during Democratic
> administrations than Republican administrations. Economic growth, job
> creation and industrial production all have done better under Democratic
> presidents.
>
> Also recall that both Obama and Clinton inherited an economy in trouble,
> Clinton from Reagan/Bush and Obama from W. The recovery from the failed
> policies of Reagan/Bush and W could only have occurred under a
> Democratic administration. Trump was fortunate to inherit a very robust
> economy from Obama.

Yes, I've read the charts and analysis which support that. It's obvious to anyone who isn't a right-wing partisan hack

> If Trump had not mismanaged the Covid pandemic so
> terribly bad he would almost certainly have been re-elected.

I don't think so. There was a massive turnout against trump because he was an ignorant arrogant narcissist completely devoid of any moral foundation. I think most people feel the same way about Biden that I do. Not our first choice (or even my second), considering the alternative......

On 8/17/2023 4:28 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> I don't think so. There was a massive turnout against trump because he was an ignorant arrogant narcissist completely devoid of any moral foundation. I think most people feel the same way about Biden that I do. Not our first choice (or even my second), considering the alternative......

Biden was not my preferred choice either but it was clear that only a
moderate, experienced, Christian, Caucasian, Democrat could defeat
Trump. Biden was that person. Bernie would have been fine with me, but
he is too far left, and Jewish, so he would not have beaten Trump.

For this election I wish that a moral Republican like Adam Kinzinger
would switch parties and run as a Democrat. Former Senator Ben Sasse
would be a good Republican candidate, a lot better than Trump or De Santis.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 09:12:29 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:47:46?AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 3:34:22?PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:37:38?PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:24:06?AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:18:29?AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:07?PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:07:45?PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:53:17?PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:29:53?AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > How does it feel to be nothing more than a punk?
>> > > > > > > > You tell us.....
>> > > > > > > I never had that feeling after grade school when I knocked a kid down for saying something insulting. Sure he never did that again, but I probably felt a lot worse than he did. Being trained by one of the local palookas put me in a position to know better than to take advantage of the ignorance of others. That includes you and I shouldn't have said that.
>> > > > > > Are they messing with your meds again?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Your comments make me believe that you still race but why eludes me.
>> > > > > > Because it's fun.
>> > > > > > > Your comments about using a power meter were silly.
>> > > > > > Really? How so? I've realized some significant gains from my training programs using a power meter....that's silly?
>> > > > > > > If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just call it quits and go home.
>> > > > > > Power meters keep your RPE honest and ensure you have usable metrics. RPE isn't reliable (not even to the pros, which is why they use power meters) I'm not surprised you don't get that.
>> > > > > > > And I'm having trouble understanding why you would still be racing.
>> > > > > > I'm not surprised. So much escapes your grasp.
>> > > > > > > Is it because it is something you like to do despite being unable to even see the 2nd group? Again that isn't an insult.
>> > > > > > I wouldn't take it as one. There is a certain amount of satisfaction when I can look around from the lead group and not see the second group.
>> > > > > > > You've told us what bikes and groups you have and you're simply not in the running.
>> > > > > > Refresh my memory...what bikes do I ride that aren't race-worthy?
>> > > > > > > If you race it is because you like to race and not because you like to win.
>> > > > > > Winning is fun, but it isn't why I race.
>> > > > > > > I can't criticize that since I don't even like the idea of racing and I don['t like people behind me pouring it on so that they can pass me and then collapse.
>> > > > > > You can't criticize it....yet you do....
>> > > > > Are you man enough to meet me face to face?
>> > > > Yup.
>> > > > > I can show you how badly I am disabled from those "meds".
>> > > > OOOOO!!!! I SCARED!!!!!!
>> > > > > Did you use that because you cannot spell "medicine"?
>> > > > I can spell it better that you can spell "Functional Threshold Power".
>> > > > > If you for one second think that ANYONE is going to believe that you can ride in the lead group of the Cat 5 Masters
>> > > > You're obviously unfamiliar with USAC rules.
>> > > > > you obviously hold contempt for the entire world.
>> > > > No, just you (and that pseudo-irish shit stain).
>> > > > > You have told us the crap bikes you have.
>> > > > Remind me again what bikes I've claimed I have that aren't race-worthy according the Great Tommy Kunich: Masterful Oracle of All Things (second request)?
>> > > >
>> > > > What this really comes down to is that tommy is admitting "yes, I'm full of shit and cannot produce any evidence that FTP is "Full Time Power".
>> > > >
>> > > > I'd be interested what you've deluded yourself into thinking RPE means in the context of exercise physiology - don't google it, just tell us (this ought to be good for a laugh).
>> > > "Functional Threshold Power (FTP), the maximum power you can hold for roughly 60 minutes." In other words FULL TIME POWER all dolled up so that full time engineers can talk about it in awe.
>> > lol...so you admit I'm a fulltime engineer, and you aren't....
>> >
>> > First off, I didn't ask you about FTP, I asked you about RPE.
>> >
>> > Second, there is no "in other words" about it. "full time power" is not a phrase anyone uses, let alone being the "more commonly used" phrase (in your words). In other words, you're wrong.....again.
>> No real engineer has time to play tag on a news group so stop pretending that you're an engineer. You don't even know how much money engineers make
>
>I know that 30 years ago a non-degreed engineer wasn't making $250K

But, Tommy has told us about his job interviewing AIDS suffers. You
know, "who did what to who" and "How long ago did this happen", and so
on. Wouldn't he be paid a quarter million for this highly technical
and dangerious job?

But lets face facts, Tommy is his own worst enemy. He tells a lie and
then forgets what he said and tells another lie that contradicts the
first lie. What he should do is buy a notebook and write down his lies
as he tells them to keep tract of what he says so he won't keep
"shooting himself in the foot"

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:44:01 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
> On 8/17/2023 4:28 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > I don't think so. There was a massive turnout against trump because he was an ignorant arrogant narcissist completely devoid of any moral foundation. I think most people feel the same way about Biden that I do. Not our first choice (or even my second), considering the alternative......
> Biden was not my preferred choice either but it was clear that only a
> moderate, experienced, Christian, Caucasian, Democrat could defeat
> Trump. Biden was that person. Bernie would have been fine with me, but
> he is too far left, and Jewish, so he would not have beaten Trump.
>
> For this election I wish that a moral Republican like Adam Kinzinger
> would switch parties and run as a Democrat. Former Senator Ben Sasse
> would be a good Republican candidate, a lot better than Trump or De Santis.
> --
> “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
> they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

I see that you see every possible division rather than any possible unification. Is that because you couldn't get a vote the second time around because everyone hated you?