On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:50:18 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 6:33:49 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 19:54:04 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>> >On 1/21/2022 7:12 PM, John B. wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:50:01 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/21/2022 5:05 PM, John B. wrote:
>> >>>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 12:04:15 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/21/2022 9:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>> >>>>>>>> <je...@cruzio.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST),
>> >>>>>>>>> "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >>>>>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have
>> >>>>>>>>>> missed that.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.Â
>> >>>>>>>>> Photo of the
>> >>>>>>>>> diploma:
>> >>>>>>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>> >>>>>>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was
>> >>>>>>>>> governor of
>> >>>>>>>>> California.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a
>> >>>>>>>> landslide (:-)
>> >>>>>>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
>> >>>>>>> location data which matches?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Last September first reports:
>> >>>>>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Follow up this month:
>> >>>>>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and
>> >>>>>>> constitutional violations.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
>> >>>>>>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on
>> >>>>>>> ballot harvesting.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
>> >>>>>>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
>> >>>>>>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
>> >>>>>>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
>> >>>>>>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
>> >>>>>>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
>> >>>>>>> was procedural.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so
>> >>>>>> many states! So many audits, so many recounts, so many
>> >>>>>> Trumpian attempts to prove and to prosecute.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees
>> >>>>>> (or their "cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice
>> >>>>>> president saying, in effect, "Bullshit."
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump
>> >>>>>> lost the election?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Maybe, maybe not.
>> >>>>> There's reasonable doubt and not one case was heard, no
>> >>>>> testimony, no evidence. If it were clear, one might expect a
>> >>>>> public record, no?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I gather that was the difficulty... "no evidence". While it is,
>> >>>> perhaps, all right to hold up a bunch of paper and shout "here is
>> >>>> evidence" but when you get to court you have to show the papers to
>> >>>> someone and let them read them (:-) and apparently that was the
>> >>>> sticking point... no evidence.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, that is not what happened. Every venue was denied on
>> >>> procedural grounds, real or imagined, some flagrant and
>> >>> pathetic:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/19/supreme-court-rejects-pennsylvania-2020-election-c/
>> >>>
>> >>> Note that under our Constitution, State legislatures (not
>> >>> Governors, nor courts, Clerks or Election Commissions) have
>> >>> absolute and plenary power over the 'times, places and
>> >>> manner' for Federal elections[1].
>> >>>
>> >> But isn't that what the Court did? the article quotes says, in part,
>> >> "The Supreme Court on Monday said it will not hear a case out of
>> >> Pennsylvania related to the 2020 election, a dispute that had lingered
>> >> while similar election challenges had already been rejected by the
>> >> justices."
>> >> and
>> >> "The court had previously rejected other cases that had involved the
>> >> Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s decision to extend the deadline for
>> >> mail-in ballots."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [1]In applying the Bill of Rights to the States, the 14th
>> >>> Amendment proscribes statutory discrimination, not relevant
>> >>> to the instant case.
>> >
>> >Yes, you nailed it.
>> >
>> >The PA State Supreme court made extralegal unconstitutional
>> >changes, in violation of existing Statutes, with no
>> >authority whatsoever to do any such thing, just before an
>> >election.
>> >
>> >When the Legislature asked for redress, The Supremes punted
>> >with, 'Moot, because the election's over.' Which of course
>> >ignores a very large Constitutional question. That question
>> >remains unaddressed.
>> Somehow you've lost me as, probably, I can only read posted news
>> articles, but I read that:
>>
>> "The Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday to allow Pennsylvania to accept
>> mail-in ballots received up to three days after Election Day.
>>
>> The Court’s decision followed a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling
>> requiring boards of elections to count mail-in ballots postmarked by
>> Nov. 3 and received by Nov. 6. Following the state court ruling, the
>> Republican Party of Pennsylvania appealed to the Supreme Court to
>> overturn the ruling. The Supreme Court declined to take up the
>> Republican Party's challenge, leaving the original ruling in place,
>> CNN reported."
>>
>> But in all honesty I don't understand all the toing and froing about
>> voting in the U.S. When I was a kid they set up a "voting booth" in
>> the town and announced that it would be open from A to B o'clock on
>> voting day and people came and voted. Of course, there weren't any, or
>> at least I don't remember any, "mail in votes",
>>
>> But then the U.S. is getting to be a very strange place. the news this
>> morning has it that
>> "Mother sues Meta and Snap over tween daughter’s suicide"
>> An American mother alleges firms are to blame for the suicide of her
>> 11-year-old daughter, who had an ‘extreme addiction’ to social media.
>>
>> Which seems to say that "if you can't control your kids just blame it
>> on somebody else".
>>
>> Then we have the announcement that
>> "M&M’s makeover: Candy maker revamps mascots with less sexist look"
>> Some of the changes to the M&M’s characters include making two of them
>> less stereotypically feminine.
>>
>> It makes vote fraud seem a very trivial thing (:-)
>
>Tell us John, what do you know about children? Did you get a college degree in that as well?

Are you telling us that only children eat M&M's or are you telling me
that M&M's have corrupted children for the 80-some years that it has
been sold? It sure has taken you stilly people a l-o-n-g tine to
realize it, hasn't it.

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Cheers,

John B.