On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 9:14:52 AM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:54:25 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 6:25:14 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:56:32 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:07:30 AM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 8:55:55 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 1:13:27 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:54:04 AM UTC-8, jeff.li....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 16:30:27 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
> > > > > > > > <i_am_cyc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Jay, like so many others who have left RBT, simply got fed up with all of the BS and non-bicycling crap of this newsgroup.
> > > > > > > > >Cheers
> > > > > > > > These are two of Jay's last postings to RBT, in response to comments
> > > > > > > > by Tom and Andre on Dec 8 and 9, 2021:
> > > > > > > > <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/4qYIy9_jTY0/m/bdhD9R-xCAAJ>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > WTF are you talking about -- if anything? My simple point -- perhaps
> > > > > > > > not simple enough for you -- is that civil forfeiture has been around
> > > > > > > > forever. Andre is just stirring the pot with old news -- instead of
> > > > > > > > perhaps writing some new and dreadful piece of bad fiction, or doing
> > > > > > > > something at least marginally useful like polishing the bell on his
> > > > > > > > Utopia Crackpot. In fact, Massachusetts has been studying its civil
> > > > > > > > forfeiture law since 2019. It probably will modify the standard or
> > > > > > > > proof (although that is yet to be seen), but more fundamentally WHAT
> > > > > > > > THE F**** DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BIKES? It's not even technical.
> > > > > > > > You and Andre just want to spew political nonsense far and wide. STFU.
> > > > > > > > At least try to write something remotely technical. Or just try
> > > > > > > > factual to start. Small steps.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Jay Beattie.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/4qYIy9_jTY0/m/DJ4RdE76CAAJ>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What is going on with me is that I have finally hit my limit with
> > > > > > > > lunatics like you. It reminds me of teaching and always having to
> > > > > > > > coddle the dope at the back of the class who has to blurt out some
> > > > > > > > nonsense answer. One finally gets tired of saying, "well. Jimmy, I
> > > > > > > > guess Jesus could have walked with the dinosaurs in Texas . . . " Now
> > > > > > > > its "Jimmy, you're a f****** lunatic. You need serious mental health
> > > > > > > > care. Go get that immediately." As Sir says, I should really just
> > > > > > > > ignore you, but since I'm on a coffee break, what the hell.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, in conclusion, STFU. At least try to post on a technical subject,
> > > > > > > > and when doing that, don't spew nonsense numbers, made-up facts,
> > > > > > > > speculation, etc., etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Jay Beattie.
> > > > > > > Jay did FAR more than his share of changing the subject. Or don't you remember that those people burning down police stations and looting stores were "just peaceful protesters"?
> > > > > > https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/554548-ron-johnson-jan-6-capitol-riot-was-largely-peaceful-not-an-insurrection
> > > > > > Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) suggested on Wednesday that the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was not an insurrection but a largely "peaceful protest."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Even calling it an insurrection, it wasn't," Johnson said during an appearance on Fox News's "Ingraham Angle." "You know, I condemned the breach. I condemned the violence, but to say there were thousands of armed insurrectionists breaching the Capitol intent on overthrowing the government is just simply false narrative."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Johnson said he has spoken to some of his constituents in Wisconsin that were present at a "Stop the Steal" rally on the National Mall and at the U.S. Capitol that day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "By and large, it was peaceful protest, except for there were a number of people, basically agitators that whipped the crowd and breached the Capitol. That's really the truth of what's happening here," Johnson said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Videos taken at the Capitol that day show hundreds of pro-Trump protesters storming the complex as a joint session of Congress met inside to certify President Joe Biden's Electoral College victory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Several rioters were seen violently attacking members of Capitol Police and journalists covering the event.
> > > > > If these people were seen, why not video of it since there were literally hundreds of cameras covering it? The "violent attacks" where nothing more than pushing over the illegal chain link fencing around the halls of Congress. Those do not belong to Congressmembers except when they are in session. Otherwise that is the property of the American people.
> > > > I am pretty sure the various legal agencies are using video and cameras to round up the 769 people being charged at the January 6 riot, insurrection, attempted coup d'etat. You think its illegal to put a chainlink fence around the Capitol? So the White House is committing a crime by having a fence around it on Pennsylvania Avenue? Trump committed a crime? Regarding the property of the American people. When I went to Yellowstone Park, federal park, I had to pay a fee to camp there. When I visited Statue of Liberty, I had to pay a fee to get on the island. When I visited Mt. Rushmore I had to pay a fee to get up close to it. With Rushmore I could of course see it for free from far away. When I went to the Grand Canyon, I had to pay a fee to get up close to the edge to look down into it.
> > > > >
> > > > > The constant lying about events is why the Democrats are going to lose big time in November.
> > > Russell, the Halls of Congress belongs to the American people. It is fine to not allow more than the spectator group in during sessions but by LAW they have to allow spectators. Anyone that disrupts a session can be ejected. This means that putting up chain link fences was illegal. And Congress was not in session. That you would believe that Congress in some manner is royalty is shocking to say the least. Perhaps you have the idea that you should get down on your hands and knees and bow to them?
> > >
> > > Do you have ANY idea what Congress has done to you? After 3, 2 year terms as a Representative or 1 six year term as a Senator Congress has a FULL pension. That comes out of your pockets. And there are automatic COL increases so that after 10 years these people are making more than they did under full pay in their public offices. They have a level of benefits unlike any other working people in this country. Only CEO's of large businesses make more money and more benefits than these people!
> > >
> > > Can you suggest what they have done to be treated in this Royal manner?
> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. In theory, BIG THEORY, I suppose all government property belongs to the citizens, taxpayers, of America. But the reality is it does not quite work out that way. So all of the rioters were trespassing on federal government property illegally. And they destroyed the property too. All very illegal. And Tommy boy, Congress was in session on January 6, 2021. They were meeting to certify Joe Biden as President of the United States of America. Haven't you seen the pictures and videos of Congress members running away and hiding under Nancy's skirts and barricading the doors underneath the Congress in the safe rooms.
> >
> > Tommy boy, why don't you test this idea of yours that Congress, and I presume all government property, belongs to the people. There is a Federal Reserve Bank in San Francisco. Why don't you break down the doors some night and steal, I mean take/use, some of your property. Get back to us on how that works out. Or better still, there is a NOSC Alameda base near your house. Why don't you go steal, take, something from them and see what happens. Just claim its your property.
> Well. the bookkeeper is telling us that the people who pay for it all don't own it.

That is correct Tommy. Just because you pay federal or state or municipal taxes and fees, does not mean you own the federal, state, municipal property.

I assumed, incorrectly, that even an uneducated dummy, would know this. But you proved me wrong again.

This is another example of the economics of his mind. Surely one day you will grow up. But that will be on your dying bed and no one will morn your passing. That is what happens to people willing to get down on their knees and praise tyrants. Or perhaps when Trump is re-elected, you, like all the good little NAZI's will run to another country - I suggest Argentina like the other NAZI's since they don't want any more competition and would kill you before you could get settled in your hotel. Face it Russy - you and your woke compatriots are done for. NO ONE likes you.