AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes:

> On 5/19/2022 10:06 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 19:32:07 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
>> <ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 2:47:14 PM UTC-5, cycl...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:41:00 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:40:26 p.m. UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 23:25:39 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
>>>>>> <i_am_cyc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (chomp)
>>>>>>> I really, and I do mean really, don't understand why so many people don't simply ignore Tom.
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> I can't speak for the others involved, but for me, ignoring mistakes
>>>>>> and errors is akin to sacrilege. I have twice promised to ignore Tom,
>>>>>> and broken the promise within a week or less. Repeating my promise a
>>>>>> third time will probably produce a similar failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom is also difficult to ignore. Much of what he writes is click bait
>>>>>> for getting attention. An overwhelming number of his postings consist
>>>>>> of a short sentence recognizing a topic under discussion, followed by
>>>>>> a drastic change of subject, usually political, interleaved with
>>>>>> personal insults directed at the discussion participants, political
>>>>>> figures, and organizations. Even if I ignored Tom, it would be
>>>>>> difficult to participate in a bicycle related discussion. I also
>>>>>> would not expect Tom to change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a comment from Jobst Brandt from Dec 2005:
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/Bdcrb3q1i9w/m/Wd8AycPkw1AJ>
>>>>>> "Kunich bore the flame of flaming writers on just about any subject
>>>>>> with no useful contribution to the thread except attempting to
>>>>>> belittle the previous writer."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If he's hasn't changed his ways in the last 17 years, it's highly
>>>>>> doubtful that he ever will. Therefore, in order to accomplish anything
>>>>>> useful, you will need to convince a fair number of contributors and
>>>>>> casual visitors to ignore Tom. Tom has a few supporters, who will be
>>>>>> difficult to convince. I'm willing to join such an effort, but not
>>>>>> lead, organize or police it. I'm also not optimistic that it will
>>>>>> change anything for the better. I've been on Usenet since about 1982,
>>>>>> when there were only 16 newsgroups. The only solutions that have
>>>>>> worked are moderation and moving to a different newsgroup, forum, or
>>>>>> mailing list. Self policing has not worked unless there is universal
>>>>>> support from the members, which is extremely rare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I can promise is that I'll try to stay on topic, whatever it might
>>>>>> be. If the doctors declare that it's now safe for me to ride again, I
>>>>>> may have some bicycle projects to work on. If a fair number of
>>>>>> contributors declare that I'm somehow detrimental to RBT, then it
>>>>>> won't take much for me to thank them and find something else to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reminder.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
>>>>>> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>>>>>> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
>>>>>> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>>>>> Well I for one sure hope that your health improves enough soon so
>>>>> that you can get bicycling again. It's a real letdown when you
>>>>> aren't able to ride a bicycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for me, I simply ignore the Trolls that reside on this newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm off for my second ride today.
>>>> I just got back from a two hour flat ride, I would have done a
>>>> climbing ride today but I am expecting the FedEx delivery of my
>>>> Chorus Group. So I will start doing climbing rides seriously
>>>> starting next week. I really have to get my weight down so that
>>>> climbing isn't a bother. I have three people interested in my
>>>> Titanium bikes so between that and what I can get for my present
>>>> car I can get a year newer mid sized SUV so that I can carry my
>>>> bikes inside and don't have to worry about leaving them in the car
>>>> at Centuries at the end when I go eat. This newer Taurus is the
>>>> same wheelbase and overall length and only slightly more mileage
>>>> than mine which is very low mileage for a 2007.
>>>>
>>>> My mechanic found the last available medium arm for my short arm
>>>> Chorus rear derailleur. So I will let him install it on the rear
>>>> derailleur. Its only three Allen bolts to change it if Iremembv
>>>>
>>>> I will be changing the crank to the newer 4 arm with new
>>>> chainrings and I will save the new chain as a replacement. The new
>>>> levers will be mounted and wired save for the rear shifter wire. I
>>>> looked at the C50 and discovered that it already has Chorus brakes
>>>> and front derailleur so I will be able to sell those parts off new
>>>> in the box. I don't use short arms on the derailleurs so I will
>>>> donate that to Robby. The people that do business with him are the
>>>> sorts that break things so that should help him.
>>>>
>>>> So all in all, I will end up with a Chorus Group on the C50 and a
>>>> newer car and it should cost me zip. And if the Colnago CLX sells,
>>>> I will be money ahead. I will be able to send that back to my
>>>> investment advisor in time for the reversal of the stock market so
>>>> that I can make more money off of it than I lost In the Biden
>>>> idiocy.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I am thinking of moving to Nevada to get away from the looney
>>>> tunes California crowd who believe that everything should be free
>>>> for them and that businesses should pay for it. That's why
>>>> business has disappeared from the state. Silicon Valley no longer
>>>> exists and this will continue all the way up the Pacific Coast
>>>> until Microsoft and Boeing move away from Washington State. The
>>>> Aerospace firms in southern California have already given San
>>>> Diego their final straw. One step more and they will move to
>>>> Texas. Criminals with 9 charges in the last year are being let out
>>>> of jail without bail and then surprise is shown when they finally
>>>> get the idea that they can kill people without
>>>> repercussions. There are places in Nevada where you can get a new
>>>> home built for half the price I can get for my home here. And
>>>> there is very good riding and group rides in that place with good
>>>> climbing. Wouldn't you like a ride from Reno to Lake Tahoe and
>>>> back the next day? The Nevada side of the border
>
>> is
>>> booming and the California side is in a total slump except for the
>>> skiing. I suppose that actually seeing it is no match for John or
>>> Jeff looking it up on Google and telling me I'm wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tommy, Nevada voted for Joe Biden for president in 2020. And Obama
>>> in 2008 and 2012. And Hillary in 2016. Nevada has two Democrat
>>> Senators. And three out of four Democrats in the House. But lucky
>>> for you, the northern half of Nevada is represented by a
>>> Republican. The area around Reno, Carson City, and Lake Tahoe is
>>> in his district. He is Caucasian. Looks chubby from the photo.
>>
>> Idaho is the place to go.
>>
>> I read, that the state cut more than 1,800 pages of regulations in
>> 2019, bringing its total regulatory count down to just 41,000
>> restrictions. If this new count is accurate, it would make Idaho the
>> least regulated state in the nation"
>>
>> Idaho claims to have cut or simplified an astounding 75 percent of its
>> rules. This regulatory reform is being done transparently with input
>> from the public in the form of written comments and public meetings.
>>
>> All Republican too :-)
>>
>
> An outlier now but there was a time when legislatures regularly
> reviewed/ revised/ rationalized their Statutes. IMHO probably time
> better spent than much of whet modern legislatures do now.

There was a time when legislators actually wrote most legislation.
Those were simpler, more primitive times.