On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 04:21:14 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On 06/10/2022 04:49 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 03:59:31 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/09/2022 04:51 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 05:09:39 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/08/2022 01:45 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 21:48:10 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/05/2022 05:21 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2022 02:13:06 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 06/04/2022 03:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/04/2022 01:00 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana..com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bowman@montana.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "minors" meaning young people, nothing about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miners.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unusual sense of humour.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are we supposed to know what you mean?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could mean either in the context of the conversation..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And most Lithium is "mined" using brine extraction, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involve digging holes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there are the minor miners:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underground.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> State College north of Ball.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc
>>>>>>>>>>>> and not
>>>>>>>>>>>> a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yup. The other part of it is the flares. You'd be driving through
>>>>>>>>>>> Wyoming at night in the middle of nowhere and there would be
>>>>>>>>>>> flares
>>>>>>>>>>> miles off the road. Rather eerie.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if the still burn the gas off oil wells, gorbal
>>>>>>>>>>> warming
>>>>>>>>>>> and all, you know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A lot of stranded gas is now liquefied using thermoacoustic
>>>>>>>>>> fridges
>>>>>>>>>> powered by a much smaller amount of gas. IIRC the yield is
>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>> like 70%, which is a big win.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After a little reading the volume dropped off for a while but has
>>>>>>>>> picked
>>>>>>>>> up again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.naturalgasintel.com/permian-methane-flaring-venting-said-still-stubbornly-high/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That article claims
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EDF said other satellite data indicates Permian operators sent 280
>>>>>>>>> Bcf
>>>>>>>>> of gas worth about $420 million up their flare stacks in 2019,
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> “more than enough to supply every home in Texas.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't have helped the infrastructure problems but it's ironic
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> during the Big Freeze last year the varmints in the Permian were
>>>>>>>>> warm
>>>>>>>>> and cozy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who, what, or where, is the Permian?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Permian basin in West Texas and eastern New Mexico.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=30952
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As someone pointed out flaring the gas is seen as the lesser of two
>>>>>>> evils, since the gas is mostly methane which is seen as a bigger
>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>> than CO2. There are plenty of leaks so you get the best of both
>>>>>>> worlds,
>>>>>>> methane and CO2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's that place with a permanent fire they can't put out?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.treehugger.com/the-centralia-fire-has-been-burning-underground-for-over-50-years-5204217
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Centralia is the most famous but not the only one.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking of one on the surface, burning methane over a large
>>>> circular hole.
>>>>
>>>> The one you mention is odd, why hasn't it run out of fuel yet?
>>>
>>> It's a big coal vein?
>>
>> Must be a limit on the air to let it burn. Otherwise it doesn't matter
>> how big it is, it would all burn out in a few days, just all at once.
>>
>> Actually, can't they put it out by blocking all entrances of air?
>
>
> If they could find them all. The mines are a 3D lattice of tunnels many
> of which were never documented.

Can't they see them (especially those on fire) from satellite?